How do you know if you have the stock firmware on your phone.
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
geocepe said:
I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
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Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
geocepe said:
Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
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That's because for them its a chore but to justify it they get paid. Here, we do it because its something we actually ENJOY doing (well.. not all of us like to help people) and we're more enthusiastic.
I never deal with customer support unless its something out of my hands.
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
richan90 said:
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
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Thanks for the input. Im real new at this but Im starting to catch on. The group of people on this forum are real helpful.
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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2.1 has it built in too.. its just the U.S. versions of the Galaxy S has it removed because of the carrier.
Just think of "STOCK ROM" as the default ROM without any modifications. That's the best explanation of it.
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Hey everyone-
I believe this question has been posed before, although not for the specific update arriving tomorrow. I was wondering if I should flash back to stock to receive the new update? For some inexplicable reason I really want to receive this puppy directly from Magenta itself, perhaps because its been such a long time coming and I want to see that sweet update option in the settings menu actually work for something. Thanks for your help in advance.
-bobofosho123
To be 100% sure to that your going to get the ota update you should not have flashed a custum rom. But to have any chance of getting an ota yes you should return to stock. I would just wait and grab a flashable or tar version off here when it comes out.
Fear the beard...
How would returning back to stock give me any less chance of recieving the OTA than someone who hadn't rooted and flashed a custom rom on their phone? Unless t-mobile can somehow tell the difference wirelessly between a rooted and non-rooted phone. Just curious, thanks.
Are you currently running a ROM? Yes? Then you're not missing anything. Trust me, wait for the devs. If they get source then you'll be flashing updates by tomorrow night. Pretty sure the stock release will be behind the curve anyway; that or it's KA6... Imo.
Yeah, tbh the nero v5.something ROM I'm running now is probably miles better than the new stock update anyway, lol. If only samsung would actually partner with these devs unofficially to help spur along development. Sighhhhhh....
Patience bobo.... Patience.
U guys r idiots. Sorry for saying that I'm tired of people saying neros better than official.
No its not.
Neros based on a ecalir base, with froyo leaks from samsung.
If there was a official these roms would go from fast to HOLY ****!
Samsung is needed.
Devs modify.
Samsung creates.
To be sure to receive the update, Odin back to stock JDF or JI6. However if you already flashed, probably you will get it faster if you wait for the download link tomorrow, I bet you it will be up before night.....
It is probably the KA6 release anyway, that was posted here Yesterday
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U guys r idiots. Sorry for saying that I'm tired of people saying neros better than official.
No its not.
Neros based on a ecalir base, with froyo leaks from samsung.
If there was a official these roms would go from fast to HOLY ****!
Samsung is needed.
Devs modify.
Samsung creates.
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Chill the fudge out mayn, You cant even say that yet. Yeah Nero is based off of eclair and what? TW did more with eclair than samsung has. Besides, for all we know samsung is still implementing their RFS file system. Samsung creates source. that is all.
Patience bobo.... Patience.
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'aight. can do. ;-)
How to make a system update to Gingerbread 2.3.4 > 1.43.531.3 from a rooted htc amaze
After rooting htc AMAZE to be able to modify a detail, I was surprized by not being able to update to Gingerbread 2.3.4 > 1.43.531.3 _ I saw in a T-mobile annoucement that the firmware is planing to update after January 20th to 2.3.5 needing the latest update I am trying to get. Is it possible through a rooted htc AMAZE?
this is what I found previously about this subject:
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minman
12th November 2011, 12:50 AM
Hi all,
I got a problem about update my Amaze 4G which I brought at 5/11/11.
I had already root my phone and flash the clockworkmod recovery,
but before a few day, my phone remind my to download a system update.
When I completed download and begin to install,
my phone reboot and turn into the page follow
http://www.badongo.com/t/800/13959704
I saw a port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297467
Which tell the update information
Android version : 2.3.4
HTC Sense version : 3.0
Software version : 1.36.531.5
Kernel version : 2.6.35.13-g19a3d1a
[email protected] #1
Build number : 1.36.531.5 CL157207 release-keys
and I check my phone information is the same as the update
So I want to ask
1) Can I update the system update by HTC after I flash the clockworkmod recovery
2) If no, how can I update my system at the future or how can I flash back the original recovery
3) Is that update in the port is the latest one
4) If I already had the latest update, why my phone will remind me to download the update
Thank a lot!
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Binary100100
12th November 2011, 07:07 AM
Search for the stock recovery and flash it by hboot. Then update your phone and say goodbye to root. To obtain root again you will have to install busybox and superuser.
Honestly it'll be so much easier to flash a custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
There are also rooted stock roms in the development section.
jimczyz said:
There are also rooted stock roms in the development section.
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I don't know what flashing stock rom is , and is it possible to make more than one recovery on boot loader? and what can I do to avoid bricking my phone? I donnow alot about these technical terms
yassirazi said:
I don't know what flashing stock rom is , and is it possible to make more than one recovery on boot loader? and what can I do to avoid bricking my phone? I donnow alot about these technical terms
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I suggest reading the [Read me first] and faq section if you are not familiar with these things. and possibly do a google search on what unlocking bootloader, and rooting is...if you are unfamiliar with these things you should familiarize yourself first before doing that kind of stuff...There are a lot of good information in those pages that are stickied on top of this forum...Please read them.
you can only have one custom recovery
and like binary said flashing a custom rom is the easiest way.
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I suggest reading the [Read me first] and faq section if you are not familiar with these things. and possibly do a google search on what unlocking bootloader, and rooting is...if you are unfamiliar with these things you should familiarize yourself first before doing that kind of stuff...There are a lot of good information in those pages that are stickied on top of this forum...Please read them.
you can only have one custom recovery
and like binary said flashing a custom rom is the easiest way.
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well, I knew what is unlock boot-loader and rooting. that's the only two things I have done so far, but questions started emerging once I could not make a system update. now flashing a custom rom, that I don't know what it is meant to say or what it does, I only find about how to do these things. please help clarifying the meaning of those technical words to know what best to choose, except anything before rooting
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well, I knew what is unlock boot-loader and rooting. that's the only two things I have done so far, but questions started emerging once I could not make a system update. now flashing a custom rom, that I don't know what it is meant to say or what it does, I only find about how to do these things. please help clarifying the meaning of those technical words to know what best to choose, except anything before rooting
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Flashing a rom means putting a new operating system on your phone...basically there is the one that came from your manufacturer, which is the stock rom, and other ones made by developers here.
So I assume you have unlocked bootloader, installed custom recovery and rooted your phone correct?
Can I close this now? He already posted this question in another thread... why did he post ask the qustion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21121261&postcount=48
So... what's going on here? Can I delete the other one? Or should I delete this one?
Binary100100 said:
Can I close this now? He already posted this question in another thread... why did he post ask the qustion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21121261&postcount=48
So... what's going on here? Can I delete the other one? Or should I delete this one?
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that one was an quick question in a question/answer thread. This one is a specified thread to this isue. you can delete the other one., sorry if I did anything wrong To answer searnsk, I unlocked boot-loader and rooted the existing operating system using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310115 then I had a superuser app automatically after that. then downloaded rom manager without knowing how can this serve my goal
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Can I close this now? He already posted this question in another thread... why did he post ask the qustion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21121261&postcount=48
So... what's going on here? Can I delete the other one? Or should I delete this one?
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close the other one, this might actually help the extreme noobs.
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yassirazi said:
that one was an quick question in a question/answer thread. This one is a specified thread to this isue. you can delete the other one., sorry if I did anything wrong To answer searnsk, I unlocked boot-loader and rooted the existing operating system using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310115 then I had a superuser app automatically after that. then downloaded rom manager without knowing how can this serve my goal
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what are you trying to accomplish?
do you want to go back to normal/stock without root??????????? tell me what your goal is???
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close the other one, this might actually help the extreme noobs.
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what are you trying to accomplish?
do you want to go back to normal/stock without root??????????? tell me what your goal is???
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I mean I have some experience in computer engineering but this is my first time getting myself into the android arena. I could try here and there and find out all without bothering you by experimentation but I am afraid of the bricking syndrome. I don't know how can I be safe from bricking the phone and what are my precautions to avoid that
I still don't know what the OP wants. Maybe I'm just too tired to understand.
Hey Yass,
In 10 words or less.
What do you want? Keep it simple.
Do you want root?
Do you want stock?
Do you want the phone back to factory defaults without root?
Do you want a certain rom?
Please help us help you.
My goal is having a rooted phone that can have system updates like before. I need the root to have the arabic/hebrew supported. pretty much I want a phone that displays and writes arabic as supported language in the firmware. I tried patches that accomplish that only on browser but not everywhere. for that I figured I had to root and with rooting I don't want to loose system updates from what it fixes and improves general usage.
yassirazi said:
My goal is having a rooted phone that can have system updates like before. I need the root to have the arabic/hebrew supported. pretty much I want a phone that displays and writes arabic as supported language in the firmware. I tried patches that accomplish that only on browser but not everywhere. for that I figured I had to root and with rooting I don't want to loose system updates from what it fixes and improves general usage.
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That was a lot more than 10.
Doesn't the stock rom have your desired languages?
no it does not, intentionally
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no it does not, intentionally
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Well my Hebrew and Arabic is kinda rusty so I've never bothered to look.
A lot of the times a custom rom developer will remove the extra languages such as Mandarin, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, German, Japanese, etc to save space in the rom itself since most of those counties don't even support the device. If they do then the local carriers probably don't sell it so it isn't very common. So in conclusion if the stock rom doesn't have it I would be clueless as to suggest which of our extremely limited custom roms would. So in other words I don't think there is anything that exactly fits your needs.
Even here in america lots of people need that language. there are stock roms supporting arabic but not on htc Amaze. as u said, not offered on arabic countries probably, but I know that some guys who want it there get it. and they had solutions to that problem through rooting. I can get help from them. But I am more conserened about keeping my rooted phone getting system updates while still staying rooted. Is this possible?
Binary100100 said:
That was a lot more than 10.
Doesn't the stock rom have your desired languages?
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you cannot get over the air updates on a rooted phone, or maybe i'm wrong on this one too!!!! I seem to be rusty with OTA stuff. ON my N1, I always just installed the lasted Cyano mod...so I never really messed with ota and non ota stuff
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you cannot get over the air updates on a rooted phone, or maybe i'm wrong on this one too!!!! I seem to be rusty with OTA stuff.
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You CAN still get the OTA but you need the stock recovery and stock rom to install it. So basically... you can root the stock rom via superuser .zip file then flash the stock recovery back. Needless to say that when you install the next OTA you will lose root.
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You CAN still get the OTA but you need the stock recovery and stock rom to install it. So basically... you can root the stock rom via superuser .zip file then flash the stock recovery back. Needless to say that when you install the next OTA you will lose root.
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got it, now I can help atleast 20 more people
so if I'm not wrong, the updated stock rom is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335703 , how about the stock recovery? is there a link to show the process of doing what binary mentioned?
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
dirtbikerr450 said:
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
butikofer08 said:
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
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As it says I rooted my phone, a samsung galaxy S3 through Sprint. I know I am not supposed to accept OTA updates, so whats the best way to keep up to date? Is there a sneaky thread somewhere? When I get the updates I assume I just flash them with odin and all will be good no interference with root access?
Thanks for the help.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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Whenever updates are released, usually developers will incorporate them in their roms, and if you are just running stock, then usually someone will release the stock rom with latest update that will still keep you rooted.
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I am just running rooted stock. Any good place to keep track of that info?
depends on update
it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
mas4489 said:
it depends on the update as to whether you would need to get it or not.
the 2 updates so far sprint has put out have been ok,
several instructions are out there to help with install if rooted.
won't work if you have Clockworkmod as the recovery though, unless incorperated into the ROM
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I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
Thing I really want is an update to get the brightness widget in the notificaiton bar. The current version I have does not have that update.
xJoe3x said:
I have clockworkmod as recovery, root instructions required it. :\
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I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
mas4489 said:
I have been following the blazer rom thread, there is alot of info on rooting and the updates. read carefully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=g-user-u
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I have not worked with a custom rom before, though I am not opposed to doing so. What should I know about customer roms? I heard that CM9 was out for the S3 what do think of that as a custom mod.
its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
mas4489 said:
its out as a nightly, basically a beta
i hear it gets rid of all the samsung goodies
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Hmm ya it looks like a good choice. I think I may go with it, but cyanogenmod has a nightly too which I have heard is supposed to be a great rom.
For the simple of heart who don't need the diversity of a custom ROM, but moreso hate the pain of re-rooting after OTA installation. Not intended to host this thread so much as I am here to inspire it...
I updated with flash fire. It worked perfectly. I am on stock rooted. went from 7.0 to 7.1.1.
pickupman66 said:
I updated with flash fire. It worked perfectly. I am on stock rooted. went from 7.0 to 7.1.1.
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Can you please explain how to do this? I'm on 7.0, and wanna go to 7.1.1 also
Skickat från min Nexus 6P via Tapatalk
Taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nougat-7-1-1-roll-begins-t3513139/page8
1. Download the factory image from here.
https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aos...y-ef607244.zip
2. Select the firmware option on FlashFire.
3. Select ONLY system, vendor and boot images. ***DO NOT SELECT BOOTLOADER OR RADIO***
4. Select Flash.
5. Wait for some time.
6. Might bootloop a couple of times. Do not panic.
7. ENJOY!!!
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For the simple of heart who don't need the diversity of a custom ROM, but moreso hate to pain of re-rooting after OTA installation. Not intended to host this thread so much as I am here to inspire it...
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Seriously! Not to be rude, but if flashing a zip is that painful for you, perhaps you're in the wrong place.
Sincere apologies...
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Seriously! Not to be rude, but if flashing a zip is that painful for you, perhaps you're in the wrong place.
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Please forgive me sir. I love custom ROM's, I'm just in a phase right now and I figured that what helps me may help someone else. I don't understand how I offended you though sir. Is it because this thread is a waste of space or that it has no business on XDA? I need clarification in order to understand my error. My only clue is that you said flashing a zip, which leaves me feeling misunderstood... I have been flashing zips since the original HTC Desire which was on 2.1 donut before it's final OTA of eclair. Rooted, S-Off'd, flashed all kinds of mods and ROMS, even had a buggy ICS running on it for a while.
HTC Amaze, how hard was it to S-Off that? The wire trick? Had xPosed, custom boot animation, etc. Then there was Alcatel, had 2 that I rooted, the venture and the evolve2, same as above custom everything.
I'm on my Nexus 6P now, as long as we're getting updates OTA I want to remain stock for a change, at least till the updates stop coming. Maybe it's cuz I said there is pain in re-rooting... it's not just the process of re-rooting, it's everything that is undone and uninstalled when you update with a stock zip, and wiping data is a big step for those in my sort of position so flashing "some" custom ROM's is an un-worthy sacrifice at this phase.
If need be I will edit or delete my original post you quoted. I hope I did manage to bring into focus to some degree at some part of cause for the confusion emoji. Any ideas are welcome and thank you for your analytical input.
pickupman66 said:
I updated with flash fire. It worked perfectly. I am on stock rooted. went from 7.0 to 7.1.1.
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A perfect example. I have flash fiire but never used it, I read somewhere that it doesn't work as one would expect. That it does not preserve root against OTA, and that there truly is no solution available as if it were not possible. I take your word for it though. I personally am not ready to try it yet, just to provide resources for those who are and to be well educated when I am ready.
I'm still waiting for xPosed for the new architecture, I don't want to update just to find out it's available for 7.0 and not 7.1.1 however unlikely that may be. I know I can always back up, but I'd have to do so regularly to keep it up to date which can't be done once you've upgraded and it may be months before the framework is available if it can be done which I hear it has...
Too many variables, I'm on stand-by, ready to pay and grateful for my memories and the devs responsible for them...