What is the difference in a kernel and a rom??
Thanks!
Heath
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im not tryin to be rude even tho is going to come off like that. just google it...the answer will come in less then a sec or ask on a help sticky. dont make a new thread because you might be feeling lazy. good luck with your new hobby
Easiest way to look at them. The Kernel is the brain, it is the control point. Everything goes through it.
ROM is more of what you see, the programs and such.
While it is much more indepth that's the basics of it. Just remember to never use either that is not built for your phone.
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I thing thats the forum for so every body can help to answer this type of questions
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ragarm said:
What is the difference in a kernel and a rom??
Thanks!
Heath
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This doesn't belong in the development section, or any. A Google search would yield results. And if you don't know the difference, you shouldn't even consider rooting.
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I thing thats the forum for so every body can help to answer this type of questions
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^ I was thinking the same thing. Hence the reason I posted the question.
Goggle doesn't always explain things as well as someone with hands on experience.
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K40 said:
Easiest way to look at them. The Kernel is the brain, it is the control point. Everything goes through it.
ROM is more of what you see, the programs and such.
While it is much more indepth that's the basics of it. Just remember to never use either that is not built for your phone.
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Thanks for your time.
Your explanation helps. I have messed with linux kernels on my computer before, but I wanted to make sure about this because its my phone and not a spare pc during around. Lol
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Well...
You have to admit, at least the subject is dead on.
Symptom of a larger issue, I believe...
We need to separate things a bit better. All the support for the ROMS going on in here seems to be confusing people?
Dev forum, release forum, support forum, perhaps? XDA is becoming a huge mess which explains the recent off-shoots.
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I have no experience, but i'd like to learn how to make my own custom rom.
Does anyone know what i'd need for a Thunderbolt GB rom?
I've looked into it and read about Kitchens and how you need them, but don't fully understand.
I'd like to know if the community could help me out here.
I could google it and I have, but I don't get any results that are specifically for the Thunderbolt.
Please go easy on me. :/
I can't answer your question so I apologize for taking a spot in your thread but I don't see any reason people would be rude/harsh towards you especially considering you posted in the proper section! Good luck and hope to see a ROM from you someday!
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I can't answer your question so I apologize for taking a spot in your thread but I don't see any reason people would be rude/harsh towards you especially considering you posted in the proper section! Good luck and hope to see a ROM from you someday!
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It's okay! haha. Any input is good input.
I was sure to put it in the Q/A ;D
Can anyone help?
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+make+an+android+rom&spell=1&biw=1810&bih=866
the phone model does not matter really and you wont find anything specific for the thunderbolt.
Install Linux right off the bat... Dealing with Windows and using environments are a PIA.
Download apktool, kitchen, gimp, and your base ROM whether it be the GB leak or MR2. Read up on how the system works, various editing techniques, and suck up all the info possible. It really is a learning process, not really something someone can tell you how to do.
That's what I did/do to learn.
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RjsShadows said:
I have no experience, but i'd like to learn how to make my own custom rom.
Does anyone know what i'd need for a Thunderbolt GB rom?
I've looked into it and read about Kitchens and how you need them, but don't fully understand.
I'd like to know if the community could help me out here.
I could google it and I have, but I don't get any results that are specifically for the Thunderbolt.
Please go easy on me. :/
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You do realize too that some people, no matter how hard they may try, are just not cut out to this type of stuff?
I'm not saying you can't do this, but just be aware that the end result may not be what you want it to be.
Thank you Theory and Yareally! I'm good at researching, looking into things and learning
I just needed to know what exactly I needed to look up.
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Dnakaman said:
You do realize too that some people, no matter how hard they may try, are just not cut out to this type of stuff?
I'm not saying you can't do this, but just be aware that the end result may not be what you want it to be.
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Lol
THUNDERBOLT
elliott35 said:
Lol
THUNDERBOLT
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He was just looking out for me, haha. I'm not a moron, I'll know what I'm doing when I finish researching.
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He was just looking out for me, haha. I'm not a moron, I'll know what I'm doing when I finish researching.
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Ya, I remember back in my days in school when these people were in computer classes with me saying how cool it was to learn to program.
Half of them, while very bright, lacked a certain "ability" to grasp programming, shall we say.
What kernel do you like to use?
Stock CM7, Glitch, Or some of the older ones?
What frequencies do you also like to use as well?
What kernel would you like in Runnymede SII update of espresso rom?
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depends on the quality of the hardware. and stop posting questions in the general section. this is like you're 10th post in the wrong section.
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No kidding...your smart enought to build roms, but can't figure out what section to post in? Wtf
This is a poll on what people like to use
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Enyo. said:
This is a poll on what people like to use
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Anything with a question mark at the end of a sentence belongs in the q&a section.
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Anything with a question mark at the end of a sentence belongs in the q&a section.
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And then we wonder why people leave supporting the fascinate.
I use Glitch v12 high leakage with various frequencies.....
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And then we wonder why people leave supporting the fascinate.
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so Im the bad guy because somebody cant follow forum rules?
Does it really matter, sorry he ruined your day by adding a question mark to his title, stop hassling him, answer his question, download his ROM, fall in love with it, thank him for his hard work, and shut up, good greif.....
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yes it does matter...IT GOES AGAINST FORUM RULES! Don't reply because Im done posting in this thread...moving on.
We will miss you....
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yes it does matter...IT GOES AGAINST FORUM RULES! Don't reply because Im done posting in this thread...moving on.
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its not even that, he thinks he's exempt from forum rooms and posts where he pleases. which makes him look like a douchebag noob. which I'm pretty sure he is.
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Really, are we even still talking about this, now everyones had there 2 cents added can we move on, here we go let's all hug....good greif
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its not even that, he thinks he's exempt from forum rooms and posts where he pleases. which makes him look like a douchebag noob. which I'm pretty sure he is.
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Well Captain Underpants, I see quite a few other questions posted in the general section. Why haven't you used your super hero powers to jump all over them? I swear some of you guys are like little girls in this place.
+1 lol......
Moved upon request.
Glitch ... I'm not a big fan of the "stock" kernel. I have been trying to get the Glitch kernel flashed with Espresso Runnymede SII but I cannot get to work. Is there anything special that I need to do in order to get the Glitch kernel flashed? I have flashed CM7.1 then flashed Espresso SII and then tried flashing Glitch but each time I only get to the Android splash screen and it never goes past that. Please help.
BTW ... I love your Rom. It is one of the better ones that I have flashed to my phone and I have tried them all. Just fix a lot of the fc's.
Wow I see can see why jt and birdman left!
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Wow I see can see why jt and birdman left!
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Dude don't get me wrong I love JT's work also and appreciate everything that he has done for the Fascinate. I just prefer a different kernel than his, no offense to anyone else.
I have been reading these forums for several months now and everyone always takes things so personal, most people on here love what they do and want to put out a great product for their phone and share in their profit.
I wish everyone would just get along and help each other out. Thanks to all the developers for their hard work and I appreciate everything that they have done.
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Dude don't get me wrong I love JT's work also and appreciate everything that he has done for the Fascinate. I just prefer a different kernel than his, no offense to anyone else.
I have been reading these forums for several months now and everyone always takes things so personal, most people on here love what they do and want to put out a great product for their phone and share in their profit.
I wish everyone would just get along and help each other out. Thanks to all the developers for their hard work and I appreciate everything that they have done.
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I don't think he was talking about you but I could be wrong.
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Accepted that I am really a fool. I installed a new ICS ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S2 and now when I make or receive calls, I get no voice!!!!.
I must have bricked this phone...
Can some good soul help this noob to fix it back!!!. If you need me to reinstall Stock ROM, then I do not have that....
I would greatly appreciate a step by step and links to fix this.
Thank You
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Accepted that I am really a fool. I installed a new ICS ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S2 and now when I make or receive calls, I get no voice!!!!.
I must have bricked this phone...
Can some good soul help this noob to fix it back!!!. If you need me to reinstall Stock ROM, then I do not have that....
I would greatly appreciate a step by step and links to fix this.
Thank You
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1st question. why wouldnt you follow the rules and make a nandroid backup? because if you did, you wouldnt be having this issue.
2nd question. why wouldnt you give the necessary information as to what you flashed and from where?
its almost impossible to help you out when you give no information. you also havent bricked your phone if you can turn it on still.
This is what happens when you put the cart before the horse.
More info on what you did so we can:
figure out your problem for you
showed you where you went wrong
make fun of you
try and help you fix it
here man this is all q and a you need
hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble. You are having enough trouble and you come in here for help then you get two replys above me. Thats just sad. You can imagine just if you was starving and you asked them to give you $.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my in call sound. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
basically all you have to do is download and flash it with cwm.
most likely u didnt flash a I777 modem
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hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble. You are having enough trouble and you come in here for help then you get two replys above me. Thats just sad. You can imagine just if you was starving and you asked them to give you $.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my in call sound. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335377
basically all you have to do is download and flash it with cwm.
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No, that won't work.
The rules of XDA are clear - Search before posting, never post before reading the FAQ.
Not flashing anything until you have done research is just plain common sense.
How to flash I9100 firmwares, and WHICH ones can be flashed, is covered in the FAQ topic. The original poster CLEARLY did not read the FAQ.
Assuming that you're still on the ICS ROM......it depends on what exactly you flashed but this could be the solution. Flash the correct modified kernel based on what base ICS ROM you flashed(if you don't know then look at settings->about phone). You will then need to flash a correct i777 modem as well(depends if it is Samsung or AOSP based). Without knowing more about what you flashed I can't really help you further.
Possible kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540872
Modems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361393
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hey man i am sorry to hear that you are having trouble reading. You are having enough trouble reading and you come in here for help then you get two awesome replys above me. Thats just sad that you can not read. You can imagine just if you was starving and there are signs warning you not to eat poison but yet you do not read the sign and still eat it.
i thing this link will help you. try it i did same thing long time ago and this solved my problems of not reading. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511838
basically all you have to do is READ.
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Entropy512 said:
No, that won't work.
The rules of XDA are clear - Search before posting, never post before reading the FAQ.
Not flashing anything until you have done research is just plain common sense.
How to flash I9100 firmwares, and WHICH ones can be flashed, is covered in the FAQ topic. The original poster CLEARLY did not read the FAQ.
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He is admiting he made mistake ok. I do aprreciate you and all you done for us entropy but he is learning hard way. Hopefully he will learn from mistake. If someone is asking for help in my eyes we should help him not like most of us on here use that to argue or tell then few good words. Just help its not hard.
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He is admiting he made mistake ok. I do aprreciate you and all you done for us entropy but he is learning hard way. Hopefully he will learn from mistake. If someone is asking for help in my eyes we should help him not like most of us on here use that to argue or tell then few good words. Just help its not hard.
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Its not hard to read either, but apparently its easier to spoonfeed than to read THE STICKY THREAD THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION AND LINKS THAT HE NEEDED.
I dont know why its so hard for some people...
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Its not hard to read either, but apparently its easier to spoonfeed than to read THE STICKY THREAD THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION AND LINKS THAT HE NEEDED.
I dont know why its so hard for some people...
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Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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Terminator12 said:
Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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Dont know what you're talking about, I cant ban people. If a person gets enough infractions then the higher ups ban people because they cant follow the rules. All infractions are looked at then double looked at, so if your friend got banned, then he deserved it.
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Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning. Is that how mods should be around here most of them are like robots you make mistake you ban. Trust me no one comes in here to cause trouble its just that we are different each and everyone of us.
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I think you have the wrong attitude here. Yes, it's good to help people that KNOW how to help themselves. But when they blatantly ignore all the help already available they become more of a nuisance than any real development of this forum. I'm sorry If that seems a bit harsh. But this place was not started to spoon feed people that don't know what they are doing. It's been stated time and time again. This is NOT a help desk forum. Respect the rules, respect the mods and above all READ THE STICKIES!!!
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mfreywald said:
I think you have the wrong attitude here. Yes, it's good to help people that KNOW how to help themselves. But when they blatantly ignore all the help already available they become more of a nuisance than any real development of this forum. I'm sorry If that seems a bit harsh. But this place was not started to spoon feed people that don't know what they are doing. It's been stated time and time again. This is NOT a help desk forum. Respect the rules, respect the mods and above all READ THE STICKIES!!!
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A-fricken-men.
Terminator12 said:
Red5 you use this site in really wrong way. You banned my friend for no reason no warning.
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Your "friend" = You
wonner said:
Your "friend" = You
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Yep, more than likely the case.
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Some of this junk in here should not have cells or comps they looking hard how to be XDA bi..h.
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Some of this junk in here should not have cells or comps they looking hard how to be XDA bi..h.
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Did that make any sense to anyone?
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Did that make any sense to anyone?
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Yea... he censored the last word.
No, I got that part, I kind of meant the whole thing. Is he calling US junk? And are WE trying to be XDA b'tches? Red please close this thread its no longer productive nor necessary.
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Hey guys! I've lurked around here for a while. I bought a Samsung Galaxy S II for ATT a few months ago after being a longtime iPhone user. Therefore, I'm fairly new to the whole Android tweaking process. I want to install an ICS ROM onto my phone, particularly CM9. I've read the stickies, and am really trying to understand, but at the same time, do not wish to brick my phone. So could someone tell me if this is correct? Or where I'm wrong? Based on what I've read here, to install ICS, I need to...
1. Root my phone as outlined in the thread for that. (The one about not activating the yellow triangle. Since I'm on 2.3.6, I'll need to use "Odin3 One-Click Downloader".)
2. Backup my apps and texts and crap using Titanium Backup to my SD card.
3. Install the proper kernel (where do I find this?) using Mobile Odin.
4. Make sure CWM is active, backup NAND (I assume this is an option?) and flash CM9.
5. Flash Google Apps.
6. Restore my Ti backup.
Thanks guys for the help! And sorry if I'm being stupid/completely misunderstanding.
Read, useless thread is useless
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Read, read and read some more. Do a search for Hellraiser as there are no true ICS ROMs for this phone yet, only i900 ports.
If you need to ask questions like this, you are not ready for ICS and ICS is not ready for you.
Since I9100 kernel source code has only been out for a week and we had a bunch of I777-specific **** to fix - while lots of progress has been made things are not quite working yet.
man some people are rude in here....
And others are lazy. Welcome to XDA.
There are a lot of different roms. Usually they rewrite the kernel within the install of the rom. But basically you have the right idea...
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man some people are rude in here....
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And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
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And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
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i service myself occasionally.
Pirateghost said:
i service myself occasionally.
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OK, eww, never touching your keyboard.
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And some people expect others to do the work for them. Remember, no one in here gets paid to be helpful. This is primarily a self-service forum.
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Hey Red.... Were you not just looking for this guy today?
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Read, read and read some more. Do a search for Hellraiser as there are no true ICS ROMs for this phone yet, only i900 ports.
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I missed you.
This thread is terrible...
(Post edited/deleted.. f**k it )
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Hey Red.... Were you not just looking for this guy today?
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I'm easy to find in here. Just look for someone's stupid post and I'm probably in it.
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tylerdurdin said:
I'm easy to find in here. Just look for someone's stupid post and I'm probably in it.
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well the thread is still open.. so it must serve some purpose right
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This is a legit question. He's done the research and just needs a little reassurance. If you can't help keep your troll mouth shut.
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shadow65781 said:
This is a legit question. He's done the research and just needs a little reassurance. If you can't help keep your troll mouth shut.
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Actually, it isn't a legit question as there is not yet a legit ICS ROM for the i777.
You're logic is just plain wrong. What has that got to do with anything, you just like to troll.
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You're logic is just plain wrong. What has that got to do with anything, you just like to troll.
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Facts are facts, loser. There is not yet a fully-functioning official ICS ROM released for the i777, so any talk of one is premature. The guy admits in the title of this thread that he is a noob and doesn't quite understand. These are exactly the people who should not be flashing ANYTHING, let alone a ROM that is not ready for primetime. But keep on encouraging him and others so that the forum gets filled with people needing help to fix what they messed up. I'm sure you'll be rewarded with tons of adulation for your efforts. Troll indeed.
Hey all.
I know this is a bit of a stupid question i guess, but i am not very knowledgable with roots/stocks or any other term you use. But ill ask anyway,
I am considering messing around with my S3, i am thinking about seeing if i can install a clean as google intended Jelly bean OS. Is this possible? What is the best and simplest way, and what is the risk percentage? What are the cons to such a move? And lastly is it easy to revert back to normal if i dont like it or send phone back to network for fixing at any point?
I know its quite a lot to ask. But i appreciate any help i can get.
Regards,
Barry.
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Mate you should read the rules
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Go to the Q&A forum and read the "Must do info guide for beginners."
Barry, try CM10 or AOKP.
Better ask in Q&A next time.
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Ignaty said:
Hey all.
I know this is a bit of a stupid question i guess, but i am not very knowledgable with roots/stocks or any other term you use. But ill ask anyway,
I am considering messing around with my S3, i am thinking about seeing if i can install a clean as google intended Jelly bean OS. Is this possible? What is the best and simplest way, and what is the risk percentage? What are the cons to such a move? And lastly is it easy to revert back to normal if i dont like it or send phone back to network for fixing at any point?
I know its quite a lot to ask. But i appreciate any help i can get.
Regards,
Barry.
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I would recommend that you check out either of the roms below. I reckon that these will currently give you the closest stock android jellybean that you are after. Just get your s3 rooted and add clockwork mod recovery then wipe and flash the rom zips and gapps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817345
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820543
Good luck!
Andy
Thank you andy and tahiri, i appreciate the help.
And thanks mike and ausboy for posting for the sake of posting but not offering anyway help whatsoever apart from point out my mistake.
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Ignaty said:
Thank you andy and tahiri, i appreciate the help.
And thanks mike and ausboy for posting for the sake of posting but not offering anyway help whatsoever apart from point out my mistake.
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The point of their posts was to point out your mistake.
It really doesn't take much leg work on your part to answer your own question without creating this thread....
Good luck modding your s 3.
With so many different options and considering this is my first venture into messing with my s3 i thought id ask to be sure.
Thanks for making feel so welcome and empowering me and giving me confidence to ask questions when i am unsure about things. *sarcasm*
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The issue was that you asked a question in the Development forum and not the Q&A forum. We run a tight ship around here. Moved your thread to correct forum.
As others have said, CM 10 is your best bet.
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Ignaty said:
With so many different options and considering this is my first venture into messing with my s3 i thought id ask to be sure.
Thanks for making feel so welcome and empowering me and giving me confidence to ask questions when i am unsure about things. *sarcasm*
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How long have you been reading the forum? If you have been here for any length of time you will see the same questions being asked time and time again by people that don't put any effort into finding out how to solve it themselves.
Feel free to ask questions about things, but do your research first, your question showed that you didn't do this, hence the response you got.
Putting it in the wrong forum didn't help either.