Does the G Tablet Have GPS? - G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry if this has been asked, I saw a video on youtube that said it did. So does have built in GPS?
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.

Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????

marixsmith said:
No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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What variant has those specs?

vinscuzzy said:
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.

marican said:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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Wth? By that link it looks like flash is working. Hey, it even comes with a custom case with the cutouts for the buttons and stuff. They probably have a kickass market too! ;P

marican said:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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would definatly get that if it were a bit cheaper, like the 450 range with 3g and GPS

guitar geek said:
I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
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Like you, I am using the stock software, and have not modified it, other than to add the folio flash apk. Flash now works great. It is a great device and I am eagerly awaiting the update from VS

another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.

In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?

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Talk2Rider said:
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.

Let me know how it goes is like to put a gps card in there

switt said:
another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
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I got mine to work using bluetooth gps on the g-tablet and share gps on my droid 1. Worked beautifully. Now i need to root my droid so I can tether internet. Anyone know of good in car mounts for this thing?

marixsmith said:
No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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Just to confirm, in Italy Olivetti is proposing Olipad100, which is a version of G-Tablet with 1 GB RAM (but no GPS, unfortunately), as reported here:
http://forum.android-dev.it/olipad100-viewsonic-g-tablet-rimarchiato-512mb-t2980.html

It is my understanding that you do not need to root your android phone when you use 'Easy Tether' program available on Market.

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KorbenD said:
There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
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How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.

makbruno said:
How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
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There is tons more info in this post on the internal gps. Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062333

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[Q] Vibrant VS Garminfone

I'm tired of the GPS not working accurately on my vibrant. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone in the first place. Who really needs a faster processor and sharper resolution when you can't use it for something as basic as navigation and finding the number and address of your local grocery store?
This is why I have switched to a Garminfone. I do not have to pay for a data plan. Who really surfs the net on a tiny screen? that's what laptops and tablets are for. Can anyone here say their Vibrant GPS works just as accurately as a Garmin device? I want to know if it's because I have an older Vibrant model. Have the new Vibrants fixed the GPS issue completely? My Garminfone is accurate in locating me within 2-10 meters and can find me in 2-3 seconds! Plus it was made to integrate directly with your car, so there is a windshield holder with power outlet.
No real software can truly fix the GPS since it's a hardware limitation. Probably why my Garminfone is heavier. It uses a real GPS, not aGPS! And it's made by Asus which is an excellent brand!
No flaming intended, but HOLY CRAP a Garminfone?
Ouch dude.
You picked a GARMINFONE over an SGS? The ONLY thing that phone does better is GPS.
That being said, the GPS on my Vibrant works great. I have no idea why some Vibrants can't see a bird to save their lives, and some work. Supposedly the newer hardware makes it more likely that it will work.
Good luck with your new GPS that can make phone calls.
LOL at picking a Garminfone over the Vibrant.
On second thought...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<composes himself>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dominic77m said:
. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone
Who really needs a faster processor and sharper resolution when you can't use it for something as basic as navigation
This is why I have switched to a Garminfone.
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Weird... I thought the true reason to use a mobile phone.... was to call people??
I thought about the Garminfone briefly before I settled with a Vibrant.
Software updates for the Garminfone are really non-existent and any modding/hacking Roms is almost extinct as well. The device is on life support at best.
That being said I've seen Vibrants with superb 5 second GPS locks by just spending 10 patient minutes doing the GPS hardware fix listed in the sticky.
dominic77m said:
Who really surfs the net on a tiny screen? that's what laptops and tablets are for.
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I do. Everyday. Especially at work.
dominic77m said:
Can anyone here say their Vibrant GPS works just as accurately as a Garmin device?
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My GPS locks faster and recalculates less often than my Garmin.
dominic77m said:
No real software can truly fix the GPS since it's a hardware limitation. Probably why my Garminfone is heavier. It uses a real GPS, not aGPS! And it's made by Asus which is an excellent brand!
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True. There is a hardware issue with the GPS as stated in the sticky in the General Section. But once that issue is corrected the GPS is just as good as any standalone device I've every used. There are about 90 other people who will back me on that too. Oh and my phones GPS is set to Standalone, no aGPS here...
those that are replying, keep in mind....
does you GPS work properly without a Data plan???
my point is, if you're paying an extra $30 a month which is $330 a year for data when there is wifi in just about every mall, mc donalds, star bucks...why even bother?
and on top of that, why pay for data if you already have wifi at home and in the workplace??
Seriously, no one truly browses a full web page on a phone. You do that on a laptop or tablet. The Garminfone has android 2.1. So what is if it doesn't have 2.3? The issue is always going to be T-mobile will be a few builds behind the latest one. Are you really going to save the world with 2.3???
It's all about functionality and value!!!!
I can be in the middle of nowhere and get GPS directions, address and telephone numbers without a data plan! No paying $330 yearly!
So back to my question, does your GPS on your Vibrant work accurately without a data plan or wifi?
omg is this thread for real. me and my wife had a garmin when they first came out cause of the buy one get one deal. we couldnt give those crappy phones back fast enough. really garmin phone why dont you just get a tom tom duct tape it to your vibrant if you want gps so bad.
I looked at the Garminfone for about 10 minutes. I am not going to bash your choice because everyone has different needs for their devices. I will however say that my decision to NOT go with that phone was I read a ton of bad reviews on overall hardware and software issues. Plus I really hardly use GPS unless I am bored.
If you truly need GPS and just use a phone to call and text then that is what suits you best.
Good luck with your purchase, come back in a few weeks and prove us wrong I guess
After reading through this post, I don't why the OP even created this post in the first place when he knows for a fact that our phone requires a data plan for GPS to work. As for me, I am out most of the time and it's just much more convenient for me to use the data plan to go online and email without having to look for a place with wifi. On top of that, my replacement phone sees 11 to 12 birds and locks on to 6 to 8 birds in about 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe the OP regrade switching over and is trying to justify himself for the switch.
he might as well get a cup and string along with a star chart to map with for location for a phone.
dominic77m said:
I'm tired of the GPS not working accurately on my vibrant. People seem to forget what's the true reason to use a mobile phone in the first place.
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The irony is freaking delicious.
i see a lot of people here are new to TECHNOLOGY. I've been around computers since the first desktop computer came out. Many on here started using computers only when facebook became popular. The point is, the true value in technology does not lie in paying for a device at it's birth.
I repeat, $330 a year for what???
It's $330 for service...not a device that can be resold and make half your money back in a year. What do you really need so badly to download from the internet that requires you to get a data plan instead of using wifi?
The initial bad reviews for the Garminfone was because it only supported 1.6 at the time. 2.1 isn't that bad. And get this, Garminfone is made by Asus which is the best quality PC brand!
Of course the vibrant is better...well it ought to be if you're paying $330 more a year!!! It all comes down to price! You expect more if you pay more!
If you bought your Vibrant through Tmobile, you could have easily swapped it out for a newer model without the hardware problem at no cost to you. My GPS is working fine, and yes in some cases it fares better than standalone units.
People use their phones for browsing all the time, that's kind of the major point of a smartphone...
As for the data plan, I use Audiogalaxy to stream my entire music collection (upwards of 200 gigs of music) from my computer at home, to my car. How would you do that without a data plan again?
dominic77m said:
my point is, if you're paying an extra $30 a month which is $330 a year for data when there is wifi in just about every mall, mc donalds, star bucks...why even bother?
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What about everyone who doesnt have wifi at work. Those who don't visit malls or fast food restaurants. What about the fact then even those who do have wifi at work also have many restrictions to go along with it. I'd rather have the network with me at all times than to have to go somewhere to use the internet
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and on top of that, why pay for data if you already have wifi at home and in the workplace??
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Again... You assume everyone has wifi at home/work.
dominic77m said:
Seriously, no one truly browses a full web page on a phone. You do that on a laptop or tablet. The Garminfone has android 2.1. So what is if it doesn't have 2.3? The issue is always going to be T-mobile will be a few builds behind the latest one. Are you really going to save the world with 2.3???
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Again. I use my phone for full web browsing on a daily bases even at home. As do many others who do too. You shouldnt make statements like that without knowing peoples habbits for a fact.
dominic77m said:
It's all about functionality and value!!!!
I can be in the middle of nowhere and get GPS directions, address and telephone numbers without a data plan! No paying $330 yearly!
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Cool story. Whatever works for you. But don't pretend you know whats best for everyone just because its best for you.
dominic77m said:
So back to my question, does your GPS on your Vibrant work accurately without a data plan or wifi?
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Again. Yes my Vibrant is just as accurate and in some cases MORE accurate. And it is possible to use the GPS without a data plan.
dominic77m said:
i see a lot of people here are new to TECHNOLOGY. I've been around computers since the first desktop computer came out. Many on here started using computers only when facebook became popular.
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O, rly? Source?
dominic77m said:
I repeat, $330 a year for what???
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Unlimited access to the cloud and everything that entails, at speeds that are often faster than the average wifi connection. This also works when in a car, on a bus, at the beach, in the mall, in an airport, while doing handstands, practicing your backflips on a trampoline, hell even when I'm walking to the office, dropping my drawers, and dropping a deuce all over my ****ty Asus netbook
dominic77m said:
It's $330 for service...not a device that can be resold and make half your money back in a year. What do you really need so badly to download from the internet that requires you to get a data plan instead of using wifi?
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Its consistent convenience. Social Networking, streaming radio (including jacked into my car stereo), XDA app, certain games, Market access anytime, etc.
dominic77m said:
Of course the vibrant is better...well it ought to be if you're paying $330 more a year!!! It all comes down to price! You expect more if you pay more!
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Agreed. You pay less for a less enjoyable experience.
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Again. Yes my Vibrant is just as accurate and in some cases MORE accurate. And it is possible to use the GPS without a data plan.
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Exactly, and with Maps 5.0 you have offline route caching, so you can still navigate when you lose data service.
people really need internet on a tiny little device 24/7 for $330?
Sure everything is case by case, but $330 in this economy when MOST people already have wifi. This is how ridiculous cellphone plans are! It use to be a device for talking and now people describe it like a NECESSITY!
This is exactly why Americans are always broke! They don't know the meaning of value. It's one thing that you're Donald Trump, but MAJORITY of people don't need internet service with them 24/7.
If you're using your mobile device for tethering, then that's a good thing...but when you already have wifi at home like most people, this is completely a waste!
Does anyone have proof that the Vibrant GPS works great by itself without a data plan. I'm looking for proof online. Maybe a video or article.
Hey, if the aGPS works like real GPS on the vibrant, I'd completely switch back.
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people really need internet on a tiny little device 24/7 for $330?.
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i only pay 180 a year!! got tmo to lower it to 15 dollars a month when my contract expired and its been that way for 2 years now
dominic77m said:
Hey, if the aGPS works like real GPS on the vibrant, I'd completely switch back.
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The vibrants GPS can operate in 3 different modes. One of which is STANDALONE. meaning the phone gets its data directly from the sats. Meaning no network connection is needed.

GPS... Does it even matter?

It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
teknomar7 said:
It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
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I feel the same way, I just got my prime and I knew about the gps issue and to me it is a non issue. The wifi works just fine so I am very happy
For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
At this point in time, in a premium 2012 tablet, GPS is not exactly black magic. It should work in a premium tablet - it works perfectly on a wifi samsung 10.1.
At the very latest it's like buying the keyboard dock with a non working sd card reader. Yes, there is the cloud, the micro sd card in the tablet, just plug a usb drive, blah blah blah. Really?
It's there. Its a great gps chip. It should simply f*ing work, simples.
rueben68 said:
For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
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True. But, they originally delayed shipment of the tablet because of the GPS issue and then said they were planning to disable it. So, I wasn't even expecting to have the option available on it. I'm just curious what people would use it for if it was functioning. Maybe to make myself feel better that it's not working.
teknomar7 said:
I'm just curious what people would use it for if it was functioning. Maybe to make myself feel better that it's not working.
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http://bestandroidappsfor.com/maps-navigation/best-android-offline-maps
Offline maps are great for off roading, for instance. Or trekking in a big national park. Heck,een geotagging, tagging your pictures/notes for organizing them later.
Star, planets, educational apps.
Edit: oh yeah, those tablet retrieval security apps...those that would report back (when connected) where your precious is located if stolen. That's about it, LOL.
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What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
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Locus Pro, but there are many offline solutions such as CoPilot.
rueben68 said:
For me is more the fact that I paid $500 + tax for a fully working tablet and its not what I got. I'm funny like that.
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RipplingHurst said:
At this point in time, in a premium 2012 tablet, GPS is not exactly black magic. It should work in a premium tablet - it works perfectly on a wifi samsung 10.1.
At the very latest it's like buying the keyboard dock with a non working sd card reader. Yes, there is the cloud, the micro sd card in the tablet, just plug a usb drive, blah blah blah. Really?
It's there. Its a great gps chip. It should simply f*ing work, simples.
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The two posters above nailed the issue dead on.
GPS isn't voodoo, nor is it black magic. It's a standard feature in Android devices. Why is this top of the line, leading edge, Android device deficient?
As has been discussed many times, Apple has sold tens of millions of iPads with no GPS chip whatsoever, and for $100 more per tablet on a same-storage basis. So, obviously, the market as a whole doesn't demand GPS in a tablet. Toss in about 6 million Kindle Fires to illustrate the point.
I kind of understand the idea that the chip is there so some people want it to work, but for myself I have to admit that I pretty much don't care beyond that completely theoretical level. I suppose my opinion is influenced by the fact that I never once used GPS on my original Transformer. Not a single time. Didn't even think about using it. So, the chip sat there, completely unused. What do I do, complain now that I spent money on something I never used? Should I have demanded a lower-priced version of the Transformer without a GPS chip?
I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you. Neither is the iPad. So, make a different choice. I choose to simply think of the Prime as a tablet that's like the iPad in not having GPS, only $100 cheaper.
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As has been discussed many times, Apple has sold tens of millions of iPads with no GPS chip whatsoever, and for $100 more per tablet on a same-storage basis. So, obviously, the market as a whole doesn't demand GPS in a tablet. Toss in about 6 million Kindle Fires to illustrate the point.
I kind of understand the idea that the chip is there so some people want it to work, but for myself I have to admit that I pretty much don't care beyond that completely theoretical level. I suppose my opinion is influenced by the fact that I never once used GPS on my original Transformer. Not a single time. Didn't even think about using it. So, the chip sat there, completely unused. What do I do, complain now that I spent money on something I never used? Should I have demanded a lower-priced version of the Transformer without a GPS chip?
I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you. Neither is the iPad. So, make a different choice. I choose to simply think of the Prime as a tablet that's like the iPad in not having GPS, only $100 cheaper.
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Do you turn off the GPS location services in the settings? Does this actually turn off the radio to preserve battery or just disable the app usage?
teknomar7 said:
I wonder how much it really matters though?
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Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
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......I think the fact remains as it always has with the Prime: if you want navigation-quality GPS on a tablet, then the Prime isn't for you.
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'always' = o'rly?
As it remains, now, yes, but AFTER ASUS TOOK THAT FEATURE OFF OF THE SPECIFICATION LIST....AFTER ALREADY MANUFACTURING IT AND SELLING IT AS PREVIOUSLY SPECIFIED AS HAVING GPS CAPABILITY
sorry for SHOUTING, but some folks forget the timeline involved, and also that we are not all after the same thing -feature wise- with tablets or other technologies. Some features are more important to others, some features may never even be used by some folks...maybe they will use it in the future or folks will give the tablet to their kids who my discover unused features.
Also, some of ya'll must never travel out of cell phone signal range, and that's a very sad thing, because there exists a LOT of places on this beautiful planet and some of them, gasp, don't have wifi or cellular coverage for location services-places where I turn phones off because they become completely useless. I travel to some of these places, and would be nice to navigate, geocache, geotag pictures from my DSLR, watch movies, play some simple games, keep notes of the journey, itinerary, etc... on less than 2 or 4 devices, possibly even on just 1 nearly awesome device... but I guess not this one-that doesn't make me wrong for wanting GPS capabilities on a high-performance Android Tablet and being interested in one that was supposed to have said capability.
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GPS doesn't drain battery if not in active use, it's not like wifi that test network even when no network usable.
So you can leave it on but what for...
teknomar7 said:
Do you turn off the GPS location services in the settings? Does this actually turn off the radio to preserve battery or just disable the app usage?
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The "GPS location service" is WiFi. Google has mapped out where millions of WiFi nodes are, plus you are getting AGPS data over WiFi if there is an open access point.
"GPS Satellites" is what you want to uncheck to save battery.
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So you can leave it on but what for...
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Use your imagination! Think of places where you might want to know where you are but there is no wifi or cell coverage. Think of things you would want to do with that information. Think of reasons for wanting that information integrated within a device you use for other purposes (ie: using something you already have with you instead of bringing something additional)
The sad thing is mine and my dads prime had gps working outside until the last update which was to "fix the gps".
Yes, my GPS was working too until the last update specifically for GPS. Then it no longer worked. It has been posted that the update would disable GPS. Guess I should've believed that and passed.
I use GPS a lot with my smartphones and wanted it here for the larger map. I carry a 3G MiFi for travel so maps and aGPS were a go once upon a time and the larger map was indeed a plus.
It matters to me but I'm not returning my Prime until or unless a fix is known.
-jts
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mrmark93 said:
Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
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Are you planning to purchase an alternative tablet for GPS? Is the Galaxy Tab the only other one with that feature?
teknomar7 said:
Are you planning to purchase an alternative tablet for GPS? Is the Galaxy Tab the only other one with that feature?
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My Prime's pretty solid, no real issues that aren't software as far as I can tell.
If Asus can't fix the GPS issue I'll probably buy a bluetooth GPS puck and call it a day.
Col.Kernel said:
The "GPS location service" is WiFi. Google has mapped out where millions of WiFi nodes are, plus you are getting AGPS data over WiFi if there is an open access point.
"GPS Satellites" is what you want to uncheck to save battery.
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That's what I meant... thanks.
I actually noticed Google Maps was crashing on me when I had GPS turned on and couldn't get a signal. Then when I turned it off and just used wifi for location, it worked fine. Plus, every time I open Facebook it tries (and fails) to find my GPS location. So, I will probably just disable it for the time being.
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It appears like I'm one of the many people with non existent GPS. I wonder how much it really matters though. Outside of location services for apps, what is the point of having this on a wifi only tablet? You are going to get some location info on wifi. When you are not connected to the Internet, what good is the GPS? Google maps generally requires a data connection, as do most apps.
I already knew about the GPS problems before buying the tablet, so I'm not stressing about it.
What are you using GPS for when you are offline?
Thoughts?
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+1. A good point well made.
If I ever need GPS data I can use my mobile, but can't ever remember needing to use it.
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Regarding your title question.... To you... Not much. To others... I can't say, but for me, I put off my purchase directly because this feature is not available/functional.
'always' = o'rly?
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Okay, yes, there is a group of people who bought Primes and didn't find out about the likely permanence of the GPS issue until after their return policy expired. For those people, ASUS needs to come up with a solution, up to and including giving a refund.
However, this thread is about whether GPS matters today. Certainly, anybody buying it now and visiting this forum has zero reason to complain, except in general to say "Boy, I really wish the Prime had working GPS, because then it would be the perfect tablet." Fact is, though, it doesn't, and so that wish and $.25 won't even get a person a cup of coffee nowadays.

[Q] New Prime Purchase 2/11/12

Just read through too many threads and now in a state of OVERLOAD! lol... Anyway, I just ordered my new transformer prime (2/11/12) and it should be here on Tuesday.
My question is, "Are the new Primes, that are rolling out now with 4.0 installed from factory, having all these issues with WiFi / Bluetooth and GPS"? All the posts i have read seam to be user upgrade issues.
Sorry if i am wrong and posted a duplicate thread. I am alllll frazzled now and was really looking forward to my $$$ Prime purchase
Thanks,
Lee
Most likely it will be the same for you, I hope not, but its not software related. Its hardware related causing the problems with the prime.
Ah man, what a huge bummer. So it's pretty much hit or miss? Some people getting lucky having no issues? I have read a few good posts (cant remember url, maybe here), that some market apps were causing system crashes like Google + and Google Maps. I guess those issues are not related to Wifi / GPS, but are causing system instability and such. Well, my plan will be to first use the tab as is for a while before installing anything. See how it runs bare bones, etc... I will rely heavily on Wifi... Is the Wifi issue only when paired with keyboard (BT), or all the time? I was so psyched for this thing, now bummin...
The WiFi issue is all the time for me. The WiFi never drops completely out it just doesn't do very good like the signal is about half of my cell phone that's why I don't like it. I can hardly get a signal upstairs it drops to 1 bar. I haven't even tried it paired but I do see it paid to DTVBluetooth I don't even know what it is, Probably my Samsung 51" 3D? matter of fact I'm about to Google that, you just reminded me of that. I got a lot of electronics in my man cave so it hard to tell what DTVBluetooth is? I was going to check into this before but forgot.
3.2.1
well mine came with honeycomb and after reading many boos about upgraded problems i'm half sorry to say that i wish mine came with ics already on it, though if that were the case it'd have been a different model and might have had worse issues than a non working gps only.
i can happily sacrifice working gps for the ability to say everything else i've tested works very well.
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I haven't even tried it paired but I do see it paid to DTVBluetooth I don't even know what it is, Probably my Samsung 51" 3D? matter of fact I'm about to Google that, you just reminded me of that. I got a lot of electronics in my man cave so it hard to tell what DTVBluetooth is? I was going to check into this before but forgot.
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Let me know how you made out with this.
Thanks for the replys, i will keep you posted. Tab should be here tomorrow...
slight thread hijack. My wife is going to new York (live in Edinburgh) in a month and was thinking of getting her to get me an ATP. Is there any reason not to have a US prime in the UK?
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Not sure, but i would definitely look into the UK receiving an unlocked boot loader in the near future. I cant remember where I saw it on the net, but def. did. That's the word, and if it's true, do NOT buy one from N.Y. Wait for the unlocked boot L.
Newer Prime's should have better QC and less issues per unit produced but in the end based on my experiences here. Also note well that they're not going to change the entire tablet.
At the idea of a US Prime in the UK....my US model has English (United Kingdom) available in the Language & Input settings so I think it should work fine, as long as you get a UK dock instead of an American one. Not sure how it would impact firmware updates though but should be fine if you don't mind whatever has already come across for people with update issues.
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I bought my tablet about two weeks ago at best buy and I'm happy to report no issues with my tablet. The build of it was good. No light bleeding unless you press down hard where the lights are on the side and I have not seen a WiFi issue yet.
Over all, I've been happy with my tablet and I didn't even know it had issues till I started reading the Transformer prime section for this tablet on XDA. +1 for the TP.
I got my Prime on 2/8 from Best Buy. I didn't take any OTA's until I rooted using Viper's tool. After rooting, I updated to ICS. I have had no issues with wifi. I get signal and it doesn't drop for me. Haven't tried GPS but I am not all that concerned about it. Just waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked and custom roms to come out!
I can't seem to find anyone who has these in stock via local B&M retailers nor online. Guess the price to be paid for being popular is inability to keep pace with demand.
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I can't seem to find anyone who has these in stock via local B&M retailers nor online. Guess the price to be paid for being popular is inability to keep pace with demand.
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OfficeDepot appears to have the Transformer Prime in stock.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/906853/ASUS-Eee-Pad-Transformer-Prime-TF201/
If you order it, I would suggest you pick up a 2nd charger as well and save on shipping.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/768723/ASUS-Power-Adapter-For-Eee-Pad/
I ordered mine from Office depot. Got it in about a week with standard shipping. However, I am heavily considering sending mine back. There are spongy spots on the edges of my tablet on all four sides.
Also, they pack HORRIBLY... I received my tablet in a manila envelope with only one side bubble wrapped. The Envelope was beaten to heck and back and my box was pretty badly beaten up as well. Not sure if that may have been the cause of the sponyness on the screen or if tons of other people are noticing that as well.
Otherwise, I have not had a problem with ANY other part of my tablet. Wifi is strong and the ICS update went perfectly.
I have ordered from Office Depot multiple times and I haven't had any problems. I didn't order my tablet (got it from Bestbuy) but I have ordered a bunch of accessories and such and they all came reasonably well packed.
Received my new Prime today 2/13. My second one. It's a C1, came with HC and as soon as I logged on to my network it wanted to update. I let it and it did one update and showed ICS 4.03 build 9.4.2.13. So apparently they've rolled all the updates into one for new devices. Then I got the small camera update and that was all. I'm letting it charge and am almost afraid to go into another room to test the wifi.
Thanks, but did check OD and they're showing out of stock.
Interesting - NewEgg had been listing it as "out of stock" but is now marked as discontinued or specifically "Deactivated. This item is currently out of stock and it may or may not be restocked."
bought mine a month ago, came with HC, upgraded right out of the box to ICS and my wifi and blue tooth work great. GPS is spotty, but only tested once as i dont use it for that. I stream HD videos over wifi while using bluetooth headphones all the time and have not once had an issue.
Well, got mine today from BB. The order took a week. Rep said they had a shipment coming in anyway. When i picked it up this morning, i asked how many they had and she said, "None now", lol. Some shipment! Just mine... Anyway, right out of the box the firmware update started. I didn't run it yet, guess im a little nervous. So far the tablet is super sweet! Glad to report, no issues at all
Lfnsr, I didn't know we could root and still update OTA..? That's awesome man. what's the deal with that? I must have been left in the dark the past year. My only experience with Android in general is with my Droid X. Of course i had that thing tweaked, so i do have some exp. Any info you have pertaining to TP, rooting, updating etc... would be greatly appreciated.
Bgm307, How is everything since the ICS update? Honeycomb is running so good, i'm afraid to update....?
Thanks everyone for the info. I was really upset waiting for my TP after reading all the negativity here on XDA. I hope some of you reply about ICS. I'm itchin to run it, lol...
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Bgm307, How is everything since the ICS update? Honeycomb is running so good, i'm afraid to update....?
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It's great actually. Like I said earlier, it went straight to ICS 4.03 build 9.4.2.13. No glitches, no crashes, no battery problems. Put it to sleep last night at 62% battery. This morning, 6 hours later I'm at 61%.
I just can't make myself walk into another room and test the wifi. Guess I have to do that this morning.

Am I part of the few that do not have problems at all?

I recently acquired a tf201 and dock combo here in Sweden, at first I was worried that my device might suffer from problems. Such is not the case.
(1) My wifi works perfectly fine everywhere I go.
(2) My Bluetooth audio works perfectly every time I use it.
(3) Wifi works fine whilst BT is active and in use.
(4) My GPS works fine and will even pickup satellites from inside my living room and I am in an apartment on the second floor with another floor above me.
My only gripe is the minor light bleed on the right side (landscape mode), but it is still acceptable as I do not notice it when watching videos etc. Also the clicking of the lens being recorded when I take videos in AF mode and it is very quite.
My friends who also got them here right after me, all have no problems either.
Perhaps we have a newer batch? Our unit serial numbers start with a C.
Are the Swedish ones just built better?
Anyways, just wanted to share my opinion and that I am truly happy with my device, It does everything I need including reading of camera raw files off SD cards which is an asset in my job. Posting right now using it
No. I think most like mine work fine. People are more willing to complain than praise.
American versions just as quick as Swiss.
You are part of the majority who are enjoying their problem free Primes.
Got mine in late February in the US and I have no problems at all, loving everything about it so far!
texstar said:
You are part of the majority who are enjoying their problem free Primes.
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THIS^^^^^^^^
sweet mother of mercy these threads will never end!!!!
I have weak WiFi on my prime, 20 feet away i'm at 2 bars. And for GPS, if i put a piece of a coat hanger at the top right of my prime it picks up plenty of sats.
Don't care much for GPS, but i paid for it. I'm hoping we have some sort of trade in program or fix. If not ill RMA down the road hoping for a better device with good Wi-Fi.
Besides that, I'm in LOVE with my prime...
I had problems in the beginning (I think it was the hc to ics upgrade). After I did a factory reset with the ics update everything works perfectly. I've had no system crashes so far, browsers with flash work perfectly and only 1-2 app-crashes which I could reproduce on my mobile aswell.
Wifi is bad at my home anyway... so I'm used to it. But didn't notice more problems than on other devices.
But that factory reset did wonders..
I was also fortunate to get a solid unit, what a wonderful device this is...
You are not alone. Wifi is not powerful, but good enough for my needs. I tried BT and GPS at the same moment and never experiences any issue.
Maybe EU units are fine ...
I have got my 3rd prime now with C2 serial. Finally this one works great!
jupppo said:
I have got my 3rd prime now with C2 serial. Finally this one works great!
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Congrat on joining the majorityhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
I had a C2 in Italy but had to send it back due to screen problems (bright subpixel, screen flickering).
Waiting for the new one
tush said:
sweet mother of mercy these threads will never end!!!!
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u mad? are you one of the 40 people on here that whine all the time?
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Mine has worked fine since i got it, never had an issue from honeycomb all the way to .15. wifi works great and gps locks.
Mine works perfectly too.
Well I even bought for my entire company so I can say that all 20 are working fine. Bought at different times from different vendors.
All works just perfect. Even after all the updates and I did root all of them.
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u mad? are you one of the 40 people on here that whine all the time?
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Mine has worked fine since i got it, never had an issue from honeycomb all the way to .15. wifi works great and gps locks.
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No! I'm one of the sane ones, agasp at how much reassurance people need on this forum. Whether you're someone with a working prime or a minority complainer with a broken one. Just getting tired of both types of threads!
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No! I'm one of the sane ones, agasp at how much reassurance people need on this forum. Whether you're someone with a working prime or a minority complainer with a broken one. Just getting tired of both types of threads!
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LOL, that's what discussion forums are for. Don't like, then GTFO of here mate
Anyways, good to know the majority is enjoying this awesome device
I thought everyone had problems with GPS... I guess I was mistaken.
For testing that, did you use the GPS Test app available on the market, or did you just try out something like Google Maps? I ask, because if you just use Google Maps, it's able to use other location sources, so it would make it look as if GPS "works".
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I thought everyone had problems with GPS... I guess I was mistaken.
For testing that, did you use the GPS Test app available on the market, or did you just try out something like Google Maps? I ask, because if you just use Google Maps, it's able to use other location sources, so it would make it look as if GPS "works".
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I used NavTech. WIFI off and On
I too have had no issues with my prime, not even any light bleed.

FM Radio on the vs985

Do you want FM radio on the G3?
This thread is dedicated to discussion and development of a kernel/rom that will enable the FM radio on the Verizon varient of the G3.
FWIW, if I want / need to listen to local FM radio on my phone, I use the Tunein Radio app. Works well in my area.
rfarrah said:
FWIW, if I want / need to listen to local FM radio on my phone, I use the Tunein Radio app. Works well in my area.
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Yeah but if we use FM we don't have to waste our mobile data plan.
It would be nice. I go to the drive in movie theater every now and then and listening on my phone through a Bluetooth speaker would be nice sometimes. That way I don't have to worry about my battery dying.
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Yeah but if we use FM we don't have to waste our mobile data plan.
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Good point!
It would be nice to have when on the treadmill at the gym. They transmit the tv sound using fm transmitters.
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How would this made possible? I am really interested in this.
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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How would this made possible? I am really interested in this.
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startswithPendswithOOH said:
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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Some people say that it is hardware. They say that verizon soldered the FM pins on the board to short them out.
Personally I believe that they disabled it in software. I think that they did it to force us to use data instead of somthing that is free so that they can make more money. I think that it may be kernel or framework/lib related or both. I have already determined that FM is enabled in the Sprint kernel and that it is disabled in the Verizon kernel. There are also files that are in the Sprint rom (known to have working FM) that are not in the verizon rom. Here is a list of files that are missing from the Verizon rom among others but these ones look promising.
Code:
/bin/BCM4339_003.001.009.0061.0313_FM_I2S.hcd
/etc/permissions/com.broadcom.fm.xml
/etc/permissions/com.lge.hardware.fm_radio.xml
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.jar
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.odex
I have zipped up the files and will attach them here. I also included other files with FM or radio in their name from the sprint rom although I don't believe that they are different from the ones in the Verizon rom.
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Some people say that it is hardware. They say that verizon soldered the FM pins on the board to short them out.
Personally I believe that they disabled it in software. I think that they did it to force us to use data instead of somthing that is free so that they can make more money. I think that it may be kernel or framework/lib related or both. I have already determined that FM is enabled in the Sprint kernel and that it is disabled in the Verizon kernel. There are also files that are in the Sprint rom (known to have working FM) that are not in the verizon rom. Here is a list of files that are missing from the Verizon rom among others but these ones look promising.
Code:
/bin/BCM4339_003.001.009.0061.0313_FM_I2S.hcd
/etc/permissions/com.broadcom.fm.xml
/etc/permissions/com.lge.hardware.fm_radio.xml
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.jar
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.odex
I have zipped up the files and will attach them here. I also included other files with FM or radio in their name from the sprint rom although I don't believe that they are different from the ones in the Verizon rom.
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On the hardware side, do you think it is just a matter of opening the g3 and putting a DMM on the FM circuit to verify it's shorted or not, and/or also look for missing components in the antenna path? A lot of times OEM's use the same boards and just disable features via software based on the carrier &/or model, but sometimes they do modify/disable the circuitry.
Schematics...hard to come by...anybody have a source?
startswithPendswithOOH said:
On the hardware side, do you think it is just a matter of opening the g3 and putting a DMM on the FM circuit to verify it's shorted or not, and/or also look for missing components in the antenna path? A lot of times OEM's use the same boards and just disable features via software based on the carrier &/or model, but sometimes they do modify/disable the circuitry.
Schematics...hard to come by...anybody have a source?
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I already checked the FCC for schematics and pictures but I did not see any. I did however see a memo form LG saying that they wanted a bunch of stuff kept confidential. Not really sure on the hardware front... I have never been to big into electronic engineering. I'm more of a software guy.
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I already checked the FCC for schematics and pictures but I did not see any. I did however see a memo form LG saying that they wanted a bunch of stuff kept confidential. Not really sure on the hardware front... I have never been to big into electronic engineering. I'm more of a software guy.
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I'm more of a hardware guy. I used to be an RF tech and worked in mobile phone repair for a couple years too. I have tons of respect for all the software guys out there. I'm too damn lazy(or dumb) to keep up with the software. Hardware evolves much slower
I'm sans DMM right now, but I don't have a problem cracking my g3 open(no insurance - it is a scam) just to check the soldering once I snag a DMM from work tomorrow. I haven't seen a g3 teardown yet, but I'll look into it. 13 screws on the back and then...a mystery...woo hoo!
Working with no schematic is always interesting, but I'll try and explore some and post back in a bit - with pics along the way. I hope it's something obvious like a short or a missing component in the antenna path. But as far as modifying circuitry and such...I'm not going there, ok? Unless we find something obvious on the hardware side we have to push more on the software side of things. I'm not killing my phone for this
d08speed3 said:
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
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Go ahead and use a Nokia 3310 to make phone calls, carry your paper maps and hard cover books around while you at it. There's no need for a smart phone. Why are you even on the internet
startswithPendswithOOH said:
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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I love using the data they give me since I have unlimited I used over 600 GB one month and usually over 300 every month I bet they hate me so much
d08speed3 said:
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
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Who listens to regular radio anymore anyway? :silly:
I'm interested, just because why not have the ability. What if the zombie apocalypse happens and the only thing working on your phone is FM radio.... :silly:
Let me know how I can help. Don't know much about coding though, I'm an econ major
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I'm interested, just because why not have the ability. What if the zombie apocalypse happens and the only thing working on your phone is FM radio.... :silly:
I suggest an add on feature for the camera app that functions as a Zombie Scanner.....
As for FM Radio, it would be nice, but I havent really had any good luck with it on other models... reception was always janky.. Of course I DO live in the trees of NEW HAMPSHIRE......
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startswithPendswithOOH said:
I'm more of a hardware guy. I used to be an RF tech and worked in mobile phone repair for a couple years too. I have tons of respect for all the software guys out there. I'm too damn lazy(or dumb) to keep up with the software. Hardware evolves much slower
I'm sans DMM right now, but I don't have a problem cracking my g3 open(no insurance - it is a scam) just to check the soldering once I snag a DMM from work tomorrow. I haven't seen a g3 teardown yet, but I'll look into it. 13 screws on the back and then...a mystery...woo hoo!
Working with no schematic is always interesting, but I'll try and explore some and post back in a bit - with pics along the way. I hope it's something obvious like a short or a missing component in the antenna path. But as far as modifying circuitry and such...I'm not going there, ok? Unless we find something obvious on the hardware side we have to push more on the software side of things. I'm not killing my phone for this
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First off thanks for having the balls to open your phone and thanks for checking for us. When you do get a chance to take this baby apart take lots and lots and lots of pictures. Try to document everything. And as far as FM antenna goes it uses headphones plugged into the headphone jack as an antenna.
Here is a link to the FCC pictures of the sprint G3 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=929848&fcc_id=ZNFLS990 From there click on "Internal Photos" It shows everything just not labled. I can only make out the simple stuff like the charging port, the camera/lightsensors, the sim holder etc. The CPU (Soc) is visable when the phone is appart but most everthing else is covered by a heatsink.
Found what appears to be the Verizon version on the fcc https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=252995&fcc_id=ZNFVS985 again look at "Internal Photos"
Looks like we have a wire in the photos that the Sprint version did not have. It may just have been removed for the photo on the Sprint version though. It runs along the sie of the PCB along the side of the battery. Most likely this is something important and not related to the radio but like I said before I'm not a hardware guy. If it is radio related how kind of them to use this easily removable wire instead of solder.
Also it appears that what is hidden by the heatsink is different on the two boards. Hopefully it is just unimportant changes like RAM chips or something. Upon further investigation it looks like most if not all of the same parts are there, they are just in differnet locations.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
First off thanks for having the balls to open your phone and thanks for checking for us. When you do get a chance to take this baby apart take lots and lots and lots of pictures. Try to document everything. And as far as FM antenna goes it uses headphones plugged into the headphone jack as an antenna.
Here is a link to the FCC pictures of the sprint G3 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=929848&fcc_id=ZNFLS990 From there click on "Internal Photos" It shows everything just not labled. I can only make out the simple stuff like the charging port, the camera/lightsensors, the sim holder etc. The CPU (Soc) is visable when the phone is appart but most everthing else is covered by a heatsink.
Found what appears to be the Verizon version on the fcc https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=252995&fcc_id=ZNFVS985 again look at "Internal Photos"
Looks like we have a wire in the photos that the Sprint version did not have. It may just have been removed for the photo on the Sprint version though. It runs along the sie of the PCB along the side of the battery. Most likely this is something important and not related to the radio but like I said before I'm not a hardware guy. If it is radio related how kind of them to use this easily removable wire instead of solder.
Also it appears that what is hidden by the heatsink is different on the two boards. Hopefully it is just unimportant changes like RAM chips or something. Upon further investigation it looks like most if not all of the same parts are there, they are just in differnet locations.
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I just wanted to check in and apologize for not posting pics yet. The holidays got in the way - like they always do. That and my camera kinda sucks so I have to use one from work.
I've taken the phone apart a few times and just need a better camera to get the shots I need to post. Thank you for the links in your previous post - they helped out, along with a d855 breakdown I found as well.
The main thing I was looking for preliminarily is if we had an IC with FM capabilities and it appears that we do. When I get a better camera I can verify 100% the # on the chip and post it, but it looks like it is a qualcomm WCN3680 which is an WiFi/Bluetooth/FM chip. I don't know if this helps you out, but here is a linux support/driver page regarding the wcn36xx: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/wcn36xx (If its no help to you - please disregard.)
Also, I saw your post #335 in the skykernel thread regarding using commands for a BCM4339 IC, but it appears we do not have that IC on our board. I found a labeled breakdown of another G3(model not listed, but had the TV antenna I believe - I'll post a pic later when I get home) which does have the BCM4339 IC on that board. The d855 euro g3 model, which has FM capabilities, has the qualcomm wcn3660 on that board, so maybe the commands we need to enable FM could come from the d855 model instead?
I have some links, datasheets, and I will post a somewhat labeled board layout when I get home in a few hours.
And hopefully I can get the most detailed pics as possible posted in the next day or two as well.
Time to put my phone back together and get back to work
oh yea, someone get this up and running (idk how im not smart enough) lol

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