Do you want FM radio on the G3?
This thread is dedicated to discussion and development of a kernel/rom that will enable the FM radio on the Verizon varient of the G3.
FWIW, if I want / need to listen to local FM radio on my phone, I use the Tunein Radio app. Works well in my area.
rfarrah said:
FWIW, if I want / need to listen to local FM radio on my phone, I use the Tunein Radio app. Works well in my area.
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Yeah but if we use FM we don't have to waste our mobile data plan.
It would be nice. I go to the drive in movie theater every now and then and listening on my phone through a Bluetooth speaker would be nice sometimes. That way I don't have to worry about my battery dying.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Yeah but if we use FM we don't have to waste our mobile data plan.
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Good point!
It would be nice to have when on the treadmill at the gym. They transmit the tv sound using fm transmitters.
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How would this made possible? I am really interested in this.
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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How would this made possible? I am really interested in this.
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startswithPendswithOOH said:
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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Some people say that it is hardware. They say that verizon soldered the FM pins on the board to short them out.
Personally I believe that they disabled it in software. I think that they did it to force us to use data instead of somthing that is free so that they can make more money. I think that it may be kernel or framework/lib related or both. I have already determined that FM is enabled in the Sprint kernel and that it is disabled in the Verizon kernel. There are also files that are in the Sprint rom (known to have working FM) that are not in the verizon rom. Here is a list of files that are missing from the Verizon rom among others but these ones look promising.
Code:
/bin/BCM4339_003.001.009.0061.0313_FM_I2S.hcd
/etc/permissions/com.broadcom.fm.xml
/etc/permissions/com.lge.hardware.fm_radio.xml
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.jar
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.odex
I have zipped up the files and will attach them here. I also included other files with FM or radio in their name from the sprint rom although I don't believe that they are different from the ones in the Verizon rom.
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
Some people say that it is hardware. They say that verizon soldered the FM pins on the board to short them out.
Personally I believe that they disabled it in software. I think that they did it to force us to use data instead of somthing that is free so that they can make more money. I think that it may be kernel or framework/lib related or both. I have already determined that FM is enabled in the Sprint kernel and that it is disabled in the Verizon kernel. There are also files that are in the Sprint rom (known to have working FM) that are not in the verizon rom. Here is a list of files that are missing from the Verizon rom among others but these ones look promising.
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/bin/BCM4339_003.001.009.0061.0313_FM_I2S.hcd
/etc/permissions/com.broadcom.fm.xml
/etc/permissions/com.lge.hardware.fm_radio.xml
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.jar
/framework/com.broadcom.fm.odex
I have zipped up the files and will attach them here. I also included other files with FM or radio in their name from the sprint rom although I don't believe that they are different from the ones in the Verizon rom.
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On the hardware side, do you think it is just a matter of opening the g3 and putting a DMM on the FM circuit to verify it's shorted or not, and/or also look for missing components in the antenna path? A lot of times OEM's use the same boards and just disable features via software based on the carrier &/or model, but sometimes they do modify/disable the circuitry.
Schematics...hard to come by...anybody have a source?
startswithPendswithOOH said:
On the hardware side, do you think it is just a matter of opening the g3 and putting a DMM on the FM circuit to verify it's shorted or not, and/or also look for missing components in the antenna path? A lot of times OEM's use the same boards and just disable features via software based on the carrier &/or model, but sometimes they do modify/disable the circuitry.
Schematics...hard to come by...anybody have a source?
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I already checked the FCC for schematics and pictures but I did not see any. I did however see a memo form LG saying that they wanted a bunch of stuff kept confidential. Not really sure on the hardware front... I have never been to big into electronic engineering. I'm more of a software guy.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
I already checked the FCC for schematics and pictures but I did not see any. I did however see a memo form LG saying that they wanted a bunch of stuff kept confidential. Not really sure on the hardware front... I have never been to big into electronic engineering. I'm more of a software guy.
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I'm more of a hardware guy. I used to be an RF tech and worked in mobile phone repair for a couple years too. I have tons of respect for all the software guys out there. I'm too damn lazy(or dumb) to keep up with the software. Hardware evolves much slower
I'm sans DMM right now, but I don't have a problem cracking my g3 open(no insurance - it is a scam) just to check the soldering once I snag a DMM from work tomorrow. I haven't seen a g3 teardown yet, but I'll look into it. 13 screws on the back and then...a mystery...woo hoo!
Working with no schematic is always interesting, but I'll try and explore some and post back in a bit - with pics along the way. I hope it's something obvious like a short or a missing component in the antenna path. But as far as modifying circuitry and such...I'm not going there, ok? Unless we find something obvious on the hardware side we have to push more on the software side of things. I'm not killing my phone for this
d08speed3 said:
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
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Go ahead and use a Nokia 3310 to make phone calls, carry your paper maps and hard cover books around while you at it. There's no need for a smart phone. Why are you even on the internet
startswithPendswithOOH said:
I think it'd be nice to have. If other g3's are equipped with the option, why not the vs985? Anything to help thwart big red from forcing us to use data - I'm down.:good:
Is it software or hardware that has it disabled though, that's the question.
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I love using the data they give me since I have unlimited I used over 600 GB one month and usually over 300 every month I bet they hate me so much
d08speed3 said:
If I want to listen to the radio I'll pull out my old Walkman lol! No need for I here! That's my vote
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Who listens to regular radio anymore anyway? :silly:
I'm interested, just because why not have the ability. What if the zombie apocalypse happens and the only thing working on your phone is FM radio.... :silly:
Let me know how I can help. Don't know much about coding though, I'm an econ major
cap1tal1sm said:
I'm interested, just because why not have the ability. What if the zombie apocalypse happens and the only thing working on your phone is FM radio.... :silly:
I suggest an add on feature for the camera app that functions as a Zombie Scanner.....
As for FM Radio, it would be nice, but I havent really had any good luck with it on other models... reception was always janky.. Of course I DO live in the trees of NEW HAMPSHIRE......
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startswithPendswithOOH said:
I'm more of a hardware guy. I used to be an RF tech and worked in mobile phone repair for a couple years too. I have tons of respect for all the software guys out there. I'm too damn lazy(or dumb) to keep up with the software. Hardware evolves much slower
I'm sans DMM right now, but I don't have a problem cracking my g3 open(no insurance - it is a scam) just to check the soldering once I snag a DMM from work tomorrow. I haven't seen a g3 teardown yet, but I'll look into it. 13 screws on the back and then...a mystery...woo hoo!
Working with no schematic is always interesting, but I'll try and explore some and post back in a bit - with pics along the way. I hope it's something obvious like a short or a missing component in the antenna path. But as far as modifying circuitry and such...I'm not going there, ok? Unless we find something obvious on the hardware side we have to push more on the software side of things. I'm not killing my phone for this
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First off thanks for having the balls to open your phone and thanks for checking for us. When you do get a chance to take this baby apart take lots and lots and lots of pictures. Try to document everything. And as far as FM antenna goes it uses headphones plugged into the headphone jack as an antenna.
Here is a link to the FCC pictures of the sprint G3 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=929848&fcc_id=ZNFLS990 From there click on "Internal Photos" It shows everything just not labled. I can only make out the simple stuff like the charging port, the camera/lightsensors, the sim holder etc. The CPU (Soc) is visable when the phone is appart but most everthing else is covered by a heatsink.
Found what appears to be the Verizon version on the fcc https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=252995&fcc_id=ZNFVS985 again look at "Internal Photos"
Looks like we have a wire in the photos that the Sprint version did not have. It may just have been removed for the photo on the Sprint version though. It runs along the sie of the PCB along the side of the battery. Most likely this is something important and not related to the radio but like I said before I'm not a hardware guy. If it is radio related how kind of them to use this easily removable wire instead of solder.
Also it appears that what is hidden by the heatsink is different on the two boards. Hopefully it is just unimportant changes like RAM chips or something. Upon further investigation it looks like most if not all of the same parts are there, they are just in differnet locations.
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
First off thanks for having the balls to open your phone and thanks for checking for us. When you do get a chance to take this baby apart take lots and lots and lots of pictures. Try to document everything. And as far as FM antenna goes it uses headphones plugged into the headphone jack as an antenna.
Here is a link to the FCC pictures of the sprint G3 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=929848&fcc_id=ZNFLS990 From there click on "Internal Photos" It shows everything just not labled. I can only make out the simple stuff like the charging port, the camera/lightsensors, the sim holder etc. The CPU (Soc) is visable when the phone is appart but most everthing else is covered by a heatsink.
Found what appears to be the Verizon version on the fcc https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=252995&fcc_id=ZNFVS985 again look at "Internal Photos"
Looks like we have a wire in the photos that the Sprint version did not have. It may just have been removed for the photo on the Sprint version though. It runs along the sie of the PCB along the side of the battery. Most likely this is something important and not related to the radio but like I said before I'm not a hardware guy. If it is radio related how kind of them to use this easily removable wire instead of solder.
Also it appears that what is hidden by the heatsink is different on the two boards. Hopefully it is just unimportant changes like RAM chips or something. Upon further investigation it looks like most if not all of the same parts are there, they are just in differnet locations.
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I just wanted to check in and apologize for not posting pics yet. The holidays got in the way - like they always do. That and my camera kinda sucks so I have to use one from work.
I've taken the phone apart a few times and just need a better camera to get the shots I need to post. Thank you for the links in your previous post - they helped out, along with a d855 breakdown I found as well.
The main thing I was looking for preliminarily is if we had an IC with FM capabilities and it appears that we do. When I get a better camera I can verify 100% the # on the chip and post it, but it looks like it is a qualcomm WCN3680 which is an WiFi/Bluetooth/FM chip. I don't know if this helps you out, but here is a linux support/driver page regarding the wcn36xx: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/wcn36xx (If its no help to you - please disregard.)
Also, I saw your post #335 in the skykernel thread regarding using commands for a BCM4339 IC, but it appears we do not have that IC on our board. I found a labeled breakdown of another G3(model not listed, but had the TV antenna I believe - I'll post a pic later when I get home) which does have the BCM4339 IC on that board. The d855 euro g3 model, which has FM capabilities, has the qualcomm wcn3660 on that board, so maybe the commands we need to enable FM could come from the d855 model instead?
I have some links, datasheets, and I will post a somewhat labeled board layout when I get home in a few hours.
And hopefully I can get the most detailed pics as possible posted in the next day or two as well.
Time to put my phone back together and get back to work
oh yea, someone get this up and running (idk how im not smart enough) lol
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Sorry if this has been asked, I saw a video on youtube that said it did. So does have built in GPS?
p.s. search is temporarily down.
No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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What variant has those specs?
vinscuzzy said:
Thanks for the heads up. Damn, kind of a let down(for me). It still is one of the best spec'd tablets out right now for the price. How do you like it????
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I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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Wth? By that link it looks like flash is working. Hey, it even comes with a custom case with the cutouts for the buttons and stuff. They probably have a kickass market too! ;P
marican said:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D-screen-16GB-SSD-1GHz-Tegra-wholesalers.html
Here's the tablet in question from an Malata, the supplier that sold it to viewsonic. It's a bit pricy though.
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would definatly get that if it were a bit cheaper, like the 450 range with 3g and GPS
guitar geek said:
I can only answer for myself. I am using the stock software. I have not modified it in any way. I have been able to find enough apps to do what I want with the device as it is supplied from Sears. Would I like more, sure. I would like to have flash working. While I really don't care about youtube, it would be handy to be able to pull some things up for my music lessons. The guys on this forum have done more in 10 days than any other group that I have ever seen. They have mod'd this device all over the place. One guy has reported that he even has a wince version almost ready to release as a beta. Honestly, the hardware on this thing is fantastic. I admit the software is not up to the same caliber as the hardware. I am just too busy to play with mod'ing mine right now. I am going out of town for two weeks and I don't want to screw it up just before I go and then I will be pissed off the whole time I am gone. I believe the experts on this forum have said the device is un-brickable. And from all of the discussions, I believe this to be true and not just hot air. My advice - If you can get a refurbished one buy it fast at 279. If not then buy it on sale this coming Thursday for 379. If all else fails then shell out the 400 for a brand new one. If it can't do it now I am sure these guys will make it do it before Christmas. IMO
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Like you, I am using the stock software, and have not modified it, other than to add the folio flash apk. Flash now works great. It is a great device and I am eagerly awaiting the update from VS
another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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Talk2Rider said:
In the Malata link that Marican posted, it talks about adding GPS like it is something they can "plug-in" upon request. If that were true, it sounds like for $40, we might be able to get the same thing and stick it in the unit. Anyone have any ideas about how they are adding GPS?
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There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
Let me know how it goes is like to put a gps card in there
switt said:
another option is to use a BT GPS puck and an app like Bluetooth GPS to simulate an internal gps.
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I got mine to work using bluetooth gps on the g-tablet and share gps on my droid 1. Worked beautifully. Now i need to root my droid so I can tether internet. Anyone know of good in car mounts for this thing?
marixsmith said:
No, the one available from sears doesn't have the chip. This device has many names and a couple different configurations from different companies. One is available w/ 3g radio, gps, and 1 gig of ram. It's available for order from some import sites. Ours unfortunatly is only 512 and no 3g or gps. with that said, their is support for an external bluetooth gps device.
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Just to confirm, in Italy Olivetti is proposing Olipad100, which is a version of G-Tablet with 1 GB RAM (but no GPS, unfortunately), as reported here:
http://forum.android-dev.it/olipad100-viewsonic-g-tablet-rimarchiato-512mb-t2980.html
It is my understanding that you do not need to root your android phone when you use 'Easy Tether' program available on Market.
GPS Chip soldering
KorbenD said:
There's a space on the board for a GPS on a chip, as well as a mini PCI-e socket and space for a SIM socket. Might be doable with a bit of soldering, which I might be attempting soon.
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How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
makbruno said:
How did the soldering go? I wanted to try the same, but wanted to know, how did it go for you before actually trying it myself.
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There is tons more info in this post on the internal gps. Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062333
MOD EDIT: This modification may very well harm your phone. Read this post for more details, read the entire thread, and most importantly, proceed with caution.
Okies guys heres the breakdown on reception, seems that Nexus S 4g's have antenna ports under battery cover, which seem to be ill placed. Your hand is over them all the time lol. One labeled G this is gps , w1 and w2 on volume side are for wifi and 4g, and r1 is 3g. Do these mods at your own risk, i take no responsibility for damages incurred. Take bread ties that is in your kitchen drawer strip back 1/8th to bare metal, ensure that it is straight before inserting it by the center of r1, use tape to hold in place. This gave me from a no bars 3g to solid 3bars. good luck, tell me if it works for you enjoy !!!
Nexus S 4g 2.3.4 OpenSoju 0.2.6, D720SPRKE5 radios for grj90 update
Data faster?
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If this works, you're my hero. That's my only qualm with this phone...
Can describe what you see visually re: data speed improvement?
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This is just my opinion. Nobody has to believe me. I am not an electronic engineer, but I do hold a radio license that is recognized by the FCC. This mod may very well work, but I think it could do more harm than good. I don't know for sure but these ports could be test points for factory tuning and repair. Adding a random or guessed length of wire to it "could" help the radio. There is also a good chance that you could fry the RF output final transistors in the phone. If the radio was strictly receiving through that port then maybe it wouldn't hurt the phone. If the phone transmits at the same frequency, this random length wire could throw the output section of the phone out of tuning. This wouldn't change anything except the input impedance from the output finals and the internal antenna. This circuit was designed to work together with a specified impedance, that we don't know the value of, and putting a better antenna on it from just guessing how long it needs to be at the frequency the phone is TX/rx is a risky thing. We don't know what the impedance of the antenna is supposed to be nor do we have the proper tools to measure antenna impedance between the transmitter and antenna to get the lowest standing wave ratio for the desired frequency. Also, what I have learned in testing antennas in a much lower frequency range than this phone is that low swr doesn't mean that the antenna will perform well. As they say in a hobby I have participated in is that you can make a wet noodle resonate but that doesn't mean you're going to "get out" with it. I'm already explaining things in a way that would go over the heads of many a lay person if they weren't into and studied in the hobby of amateur radio.
I'm not saying I know better or am better than anyone here. To make a long story short, if you don't have the right equipment, knowledge, and skill to do stuff like the mod is about, then I would HIGHLY suggest you not trying it. There is a very good chance that you could burn up the RF output transistors in the phone and then essentially you would turn the phone into a receive only radio like your FM radio. Putting a random (guessed) length wire on a receiver isn't going to hurt the electronics inside it, it will just make it receive better or worse. With a transceiver (a radio that can transmit and receive), this experiment has the possibility of burning out components inside the phone on the transmit side. I've blabbed enough. This is only my opinion on this, that's all...
All I have are plastic thingies that keep my bread soft and fresh...
You don't do the spin and tuck?
thats the best way
oscarthegrouch said:
You don't do the spin and tuck?
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oscarthegrouch said:
You don't do the spin and tuck?
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I only do that when I'm down to the last few slices..
So.. any updates to this mod?
Sounds like Oscar knows what he's talking about... OP, please keep us updated on whether or not your phone blows up. I would like to try this but don't know if its worth the risk... I wish we didn't have this issue...
bearsblack said:
Sounds like Oscar knows what he's talking about... OP, please keep us updated on whether or not your phone blows up. I would like to try this but don't know if its worth the risk... I wish we didn't have this issue...
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Bad bad bad idea, it messed up my 3G radio antenna,no data at all data goes in and out, it won't let me update profile, sprint can't fix the problem w a hard reset of data.. gotta go in and get a new phone... told em didn't want the nexus anymore and im getting the Evo 3D.
This phones radio just sucks period! From what a rep at sprint told me... its not sprints data its the radio antenna itself poorly made.
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okies this is an update to whether phone has blown up or wot . lol no it hasnt not gone to waste and yes mr radio expert Ocsar is correct in knowing bout rf and antenna length this is a test port to plug in antenna or equipment at a shop and test for tuning its is a direct connect to the transmitter/reciever, if u open ur phone u will see that the port actually goes down under the main board to the build in wire that is on pcb.The wire was cut in progression to get best reception, data rate improved slightly will have s/s of data after more testing
soz bout ur phone lucky, sounds like u may have pushed it down and in to port hard and broke the flat copper piece away that lies right under the port. good luck with your evo tho they rock
Diagram of mod
This is a simple diagram of mod,
luckylui said:
Bad bad bad idea, it messed up my 3G radio antenna,no data at all data goes in and out, it won't let me update profile, sprint can't fix the problem w a hard reset of data.. gotta go in and get a new phone... told em didn't want the nexus anymore and im getting the Evo 3D.
This phones radio just sucks period! From what a rep at sprint told me... its not sprints data its the radio antenna itself poorly made.
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Take it with a grain of salt but phonedog's review of the 3d wasn't good when it comes to data and radio performance. I'm just sharing what I read. http://www.phonedog.com/2011/06/23/htc-evo-3d-review-by-aaron/
lol... the best part of this mod is that the 6 feet of scotch tape you used to attach the bread ties to the back of your $500 phone
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I tried this today. Made a very slight improvement in my case. Not enough to keep it modded though. Just removed it.
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mikeinghilterra said:
lol... the best part of this mod is that the 6 feet of scotch tape you used to attach the bread ties to the back of your $500 phone
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LMAO mike didnt say it was pretty just trying ideas to help reception.
Honestly I never really suggest hardware mods, they usually do more harm then good..
I didn't find a manual in my box did anyone else not get a manual? Is this a new samsung thing where they are going online for manuals vs doing it offline now?
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I didn't find a manual in my box did anyone else not get a manual? Is this a new samsung thing where they are going online for manuals vs doing it offline now?
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i received one, but then again i don't read manuals. lol
I dont either but it makes me mad they gipped me on it!
Almost everything with a manual is going digital. Lower costs and makes a company look "green". Anyhow, you can use the help app on your phone. The users manual is located within.
ya ik this isnt my first phone i was just curious if i was the only one
Mine came with the manual.
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dragonisinogard said:
I didn't find a manual in my box did anyone else not get a manual? Is this a new samsung thing where they are going online for manuals vs doing it offline now?
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More importantly we got no headset!
Got one worth mine. Of course it's still wrapped and will stay sitting there
Maybe I should call verizon and say since I did not get a manual with my Galaxy Note 2 do I get a free pair of headphones instead?
I only got a table leg leveler with mine. No idea!
The Verizon Note 2 does not come with a physical manual. It has the following physical documents:
- Star Here (and Comienza Aqui, the Start Here guide in Spanish)
- Product Safety & Warranty Information
- Global Support Calling Card
- Consumer Information About Radio Frequency Emissions & Responsible Driving
- Important Consumer Information
I have a feeling that people who are saying they received a manual are referring to one (or all) of those, but none of those are actual device user manuals though (at least in the sense that the OP is referring to). The actual user manual is 216 pages long. Verizon (and other carriers) have been cutting back on the included documentation with devices for a little while now.
If you want the actual user manual, you have to download it. It can be found on Samsung's support website for the Verizon Note 2.
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The Verizon Note 2 does not come with a physical manual. It has the following physical documents:
- Star Here (and Comienza Aqui, the Start Here guide in Spanish)
- Product Safety & Warranty Information
- Global Support Calling Card
- Consumer Information About Radio Frequency Emissions & Responsible Driving
- Important Consumer Information
I have a feeling that people who are saying they received a manual are referring to one (or all) of those, but none of those are actual device user manuals though (at least in the sense that the OP is referring to). The actual user manual is 216 pages long. Verizon (and other carriers) have been cutting back on the included documentation with devices for a little while now.
If you want the actual user manual, you have to download it. It can be found on Samsung's support website for the Verizon Note 2.
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That is exactly what I wanted to know THANK YOU! I just thought it was odd, My Droid Razr had one, my other cell phones had one but this one did not and I thought that was odd. I don't care about one but wanted to see if it was the new normal.
This is the one phone I could see shipping it as a PDF file included would make total sense. it fits the usage.
Not shipping earbuds/mic is just tacky given the price. You'll definitely be using those on this thing.
Ya but the odd thing using headphones today whenever I got a text it would play through the speakers not through the headphones
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This is the one phone I could see shipping it as a PDF file included would make total sense. it fits the usage.
Not shipping earbuds/mic is just tacky given the price. You'll definitely be using those on this thing.
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I'm guessing that the reason no headphones are included is because of the cost of the Spen.
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Ya but the odd thing using headphones today whenever I got a text it would play through the speakers not through the headphones
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Mine does the same thing, but it also plays the notification through the headphones.
Odd mine only plays through the speakers not headphone Samsung is odd that way oh well, maybe a fix will come it doesnt bother me that much, if i have headphones in I am usually playing games and can see when I get a text anyway
Use this. Pretty helpful
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.samsung.no
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N8shon said:
More importantly we got no headset!
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That made me so mad! The best buy guy finally gave me a headset from the s3. Hehe
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Just started a new job, and my service really sucks here. I have a microcell, but I'm not at the point of being able to hook it up at work without a legitimate business need.
I'm about another month on my Thunderbolt before I move on to something else, but honestly, I'm not sure I'll keep Verizon if my phone won't work at the office.
Any ideas?
Oh, and I'm running the HTC extended battery.. I haven't had issues with the case before, but I guess I don't have a comparison yet with the stock cover..
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Just started a new job, and my service really sucks here. I have a microcell, but I'm not at the point of being able to hook it up at work without a legitimate business need.
I'm about another month on my Thunderbolt before I move on to something else, but honestly, I'm not sure I'll keep Verizon if my phone won't work at the office.
Any ideas?
Oh, and I'm running the HTC extended battery.. I haven't had issues with the case before, but I guess I don't have a comparison yet with the stock cover..
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I know exactly what you're talking about. I remember they used to actually work with those older flip phones, but not too sure about how it would work on a Thunderbolt.
If you're rooted, I would just recommend flashing a few radios to see if that improved your signal at all.
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Yeah.. understood.. I'm running the only radios I can run on my ROM right now.. so.. just wondering if anyone had any other luck. I know the 4G antenna is specialized, so, improving that, probably not going to happen. But, I can maybe send one text with every 5 or 6 tries, so.. I might just have to bring my micro cell in and give it a try.
AFAIK, Antenna boosters do very little. Why not try some aluminum foil under the battery cover and see if that helps? You can copy one of those you see online.
NOTE: Glue or tape the foil to a bit of paper or plastic so it can't move around and short something out.
For the past couple of weeks my GPS hasn't been able to connect to any satellites. For quite some time I was running Tachyon 1.2 (while I was S-On) with no problems. Then, one day I'm out of state and really need my GPS and it simply won't connect to any satellites. I've tried many different things to try to get GPS working. I've tried flashing CM 11, LiquidSmooth 3.2, down to Tachyon 1.1.5 all to no avail. I've used: GPS Assist, Both GPS Status programs I found in the Google Play Store (the blue one and the one with a gray/orange satellite dish looking thing), and the GPS Fix app from the play store. I recently used REV3NT3CH's guide to downgrade and factory reset my HTC Rezound. It's weird being back to stock, but GPS still does not work. I have also tried switching back covers with someone else who has a Rezound...again nothing. I am now S-Off with a relocked bootloader.
My phone is from Verizon and I'm now on the stock 4.0.3 and the HTC Sense version is 3.6
Software number: 4.03.605.2 710RD
HBOOT-2.28.0000
RADIO-2.23.10.0123r/2.23.10.0124r
I'm rooted and using TWRP 2.7.0.1 for recovery
I was wondering if there's anything else I should try, or if there's a .zip or .apk I can flash that will help the GPS?
This is my first time posting, but I've been looking on these forums for years...ever since I got a HTC Droid Eris a very long time ago!
It actually sounds like you are not making contact GPS antenna contacts in the back cover... check your contacts for a solid connection, corrosion, or try another back cover. I am not saying it's not possible for the GPS receiver to go bad, but I can't recall hearing of one doing it in the Rezound, but I can tell you that, just like the other radios in this handset, if you take off the back cover, don't have it on solid, use an aftermarket back cover, or anything else causing a bad connection, it will fail to get signal.
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It actually sounds like you are not making contact GPS antenna contacts in the back cover... check your contacts for a solid connection, corrosion, or try another back cover. I am not saying it's not possible for the GPS receiver to go bad, but I can't recall hearing of one doing it in the Rezound, but I can tell you that, just like the other radios in this handset, if you take off the back cover, don't have it on solid, use an aftermarket back cover, or anything else causing a bad connection, it will fail to get signal.
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I appreciate you getting back to me. I use the standard back cover, and I have tried a different back cover from another HTC Rezound. Do you know which connections I should take a closer look at? Looking at the connections, they look good, clean and gold...no corrsion or anything like that. Both back covers look identical as far as the where they connect with the antennas.
Sorry, I do not know which it is, and I may have been wrong... This is the only image I could find with labels and GPS is not one of them from what I can tell
http://forums.androidcentral.com/at...347180768t-holes-back-fcc_radio_locations.jpg
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Sorry, I do not know which it is, and I may have been wrong... This is the only image I could find with labels and GPS is not one of them from what I can tell
I appreciate you getting back to me. I've tried a couple of different covers and about every fix I could find in the Play store. I think it may be time for a new phone for me. :crying: Thanks again for your help.
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acejavelin said:
Sorry, I do not know which it is, and I may have been wrong... This is the only image I could find with labels and GPS is not one of them from what I can tell
I appreciate you getting back to me. I've tried a couple of different covers and about every fix I could find in the Play store. I think it may be time for a new phone for me. :crying: Thanks again for your help.
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Sorry, but sounds like time for a new phone... But I think you will be amazed at the difference in battery life, weight, and performance of the newer phones like the HTC One, LG G2/3, and Galaxy S5, compared to the Rezound.
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PapaKingBravs said:
Sorry, but sounds like time for a new phone... But I think you will be amazed at the difference in battery life, weight, and performance of the newer phones like the HTC One, LG G2/3, and Galaxy S5, compared to the Rezound.
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Been thinking about the HTC One or the LG G2. I'm still going month-to-month on an unlimited data plan (from Alltel) on Verizon, so I'm looking for a phone that's a little more reasonable in price...been looking on Swappa for a little bit. Recommendation on either of those two phones?
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PapaKingBravs said:
acejavelin said:
Been thinking about the HTC One or the LG G2. I'm still going month-to-month on an unlimited data plan (from Alltel) on Verizon, so I'm looking for a phone that's a little more reasonable in price...been looking on Swappa for a little bit. Recommendation on either of those two phones?
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If you are into rooting and romming, go with the HTC One M7, its a solid device. The G2 is great, although custom ROMs have a tendency to break the GPS and occasionally the screen (search out G2 screen lines on custom ROM and you will see what I mean), but even with that said the G2 is a solid device and the battery life is astounding... We have both in my family, my son has the One and I have the G2 as a work phone, as well as one of my other sons and his mom have the G2.
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