[Q] HTC mozart camera.... - 7 Mozart General

Anyone know if a software upgrade will be able to refine the camera at all?
As it stands iphones camera ****s all over the mozarts shutter speed is too slow, needs ALOT of light to take a clean crisp picture and so on....
So yeah, anyone heard/read of a possible upgrade for it?
ps. Loving the mozart, dropped it 3 times (apprentice sparky) and no breakages. HTC know how to make a decent phone XD

thats something i would also like to know...
Can anyone took good pics on moving objects??

I hope there's some sort of fix, third party or official.
I almost bought a Mozart the other day but saw some sample shots
I thought my SGS had a bad camera!

Krjal said:
I hope there's some sort of fix, third party or official.
I almost bought a Mozart the other day but saw some sample shots
I thought my SGS had a bad camera!
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Damn it I totally didn't mean to thank you for that!
Please tell me how the following photos aren't good? They're as close to perfect as you can get with a phone as far as I'm concerned!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-7-mozart-sample-still-shots/#3484613
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/htc7mozartcam10202010.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-7-mozart-sample-still-shots/#3484611
Alex

the perfect photos u posted..... You have to be PERFECTLY still to take them, and even when u are.... the slightes flash of a light, movement will blur in low light.
The iphone cameras lense has an entire f-stop more than the mozarts, so as far as quality goes, the 5mp iphone camera is better. 8mp just means u can blow up your blurred photos bigger than u would be able to blow up an iphones... but when u have dark, blurry shots.... i know im using them anytime soon
Yet as i said in my original msg, in full light, camera is perfectly fine. Take a bit of light away and the quality degrades VERY quickly
Iphone has 3rd party apps that get every bit out of the camera, hopefully a program will come out on windows phone that will give us the same.

Panoramic camera ugrade app !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please!!!!!!!!!!

this is the pic I took this morning
for me I think the camera and the video recorder is OK
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Quite surprised to see a handset with a xenon flash take such low quality images, what a letdown. Still wationg for the next android / iOS handset with xenon..

i dont know guys,
this looks like a damn good camcorder to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKh-dotIhTs
but ive seen other videos too were autofocus killed the whole clip.
still you cant compare it to iphone4 cam like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivosrlf0JJc
remember iphone4 is double the price and 4th generation cam
here is a nice compare of these two starting at 4:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eabDFVjIL20
mozart lacks in color it seems xD

What annoys the hell out of me with regard to the camera here is the button and the sound.
The button is too tight, I can't hold the lightweight phone steady when pressing it no matter how I try.
And then the sound. When you take a picture with flashlight, it triggers the sound, then flashes once for red eye reduction, and then takes the shot, flashing for the second time. Every normal person starts moving after he/she hears the sound, while the actual shot is taken some two seconds after.

I had a Nokia N79 with a 5MP camera with a Zeiss lens and it took fantastic images. The mozart ones are totally crap. 9 out of 10 are blurry for me. The noise cancelation is far to strong it it gets the focus wrong (at least a little)...
As soon as the first Nokia WP7 phones come out I will upgrade...

On the other hand there might be some issues with my camera. Otherwise I can't explain these photos: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bill/archive/2010/11/13/htc-mozart-camera-photos.aspx

Well... we have lack of control on the camera part... to be perfect.. more settings need to be done during the photo were taken... but with this Mozart... not even a single preset can be found... when you're in low light condition... you gonna find your pics in a bit "blue+ish" mode..lol....
I love to play around with the camera... for a still picture, i'm gonna share on how to create a Lomo "look-a-like" pics with your Mozart ;
Apps needed :
1. Photo FX Free
2. HTC Photo Enhancer
..............................
First , take any picture....and open this Photo FX,
Choose : Manual (brightness, contrast, vignette)
You need to reduce a bit the brightness, increase a bit your contrast... put more vignette... then save the picture...
Later... you need to open the HTC Photo Enhancer... and open the previous saved picture.... choose under "Lively" mode... and save... there you go... you gonna get a vibrant color / tone just like a "Lomo" pics... hope you guys like it...

does somebody know an app for camera with touch focus, shot controls on display and other useful settings like dslr settings ?

I've had the phone for 2 days ad have noticed that the shutter sound goes off well before the camera has actually taken the photos - hopefully HTC will fix this in a future update but for now my advice to anyone is to ignore the shutter sound.
Other than that I have been fairly impressed with the limited amount of test shots I have taken.

I am on the fence on if to get the Trophy or the Mozart. As crazy as this question sounds, with all the issues the Mozart has is the camera actually better in the Trophy?
And I am leaning towards the Trophy for a silly reason - Xenons cannot be used as flashlights.
But I do prefer the build quality of the Mozart.

nicksti said:
I am on the fence on if to get the Trophy or the Mozart. As crazy as this question sounds, with all the issues the Mozart has is the camera actually better in the Trophy?
And I am leaning towards the Trophy for a silly reason - Xenons cannot be used as flashlights.
But I do prefer the build quality of the Mozart.
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I would not have bought the Mozart had I known the gun metal case was super slippery (for those people with clean, non-greasy hands) and the flashlight app (I made good use of the one on my HD2 so yes, I miss it) doesn't work.
My advise, go for the Trophy

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[Q] SGS - SGSII display sharpness comparison?

I was wondering if (previous) SGS owners that own a SGSII could comment on the differences in display sharpness between these units? IMO small text looks very bad/jagged on the SGS (fixed partially by speedmod kernel with sharpness fix).
From what I understood the new screen theoretically should be sharper (RGB vs. pentile matrix layout) but I'd like to know first-hand if it makes a huge difference or not, especially for small text?
UPDATE: I did a careful comparison of small text on my SGS (2.3.4 JVP, Speedmod Kernel with Sharpness fix, dpi 220, EXT4) with an SGSII of a colleague, and my conclusion is that IMO there is not enough difference in that area to justify getting an SGSII. If you are mainly looking for a speed improvement it might be worthwhile though. I thought my tweaked SGS was fast, but I was truly amazed by the speed of the II!
Thanks! I know the specs, but I was looking more for user opinions on a sharpness comparison regarding small text.
it's slighly easier to read on the SGS2 because they ditched the pentile matrix scheme on the SAMOLED+. The difference isn't that great mind you, but it's there
The sub pixel count increased, but the screen size increased too which basically cancels out the improvements. The Samsung infuse especially doesn't look sharp.
So the consensus is that there is not that much difference in crispness/sharpness of tiny text ? I really hoped that I would be able to zoom out small text a bit more on the SGSII without it becoming unreadable?
O well, I guess I just will have to physically check it out myself.
If a sharp display is what youre looking for, you'd best steer clear of this device. Dont get me wrong, the screen itself is quite nice (so videos look good), but the resolution is so incredibly low that text and pictures, especially while browsing, look terribly pixelated. I'll post a few photos in a bit to give you a general idea. Why samsung would ruin the the screen's vibrancy and sharpness by going with such a low resolution absolutely boogles me.
Here are some photos, as promised. Make sure to look at them at 100%. You'll notice the photos are incredibly blockey/pixelated.
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Seriously, this is the screen everyone is raving about? Am I missing something here?
Also, on a separate note......8 megapixel camera? Seriously? Here's a photo I took today in Ginza on maximum resolution, superfine. The result, cloudy/washed out/blurry. Seriously......photos came out better on my 3 mega pixel 3GS (no, not a fanboy). Look for yourself.... (again, make sure you're looking at the picture 100%).
What the heck is going on?
Looks like you need to clean the lens, photos on my sgs2 are amazing
@cphil19:
Hi mate,
Ad browser screenshots:
Are you sure your browser is not forcing the picture quality down for mobile browsing? Plz check for such option as you can see the text is sharp its the images wich look bad.
Ad camera pic:
As the previous poster advised, Plz clean your lens
clonednull said:
@cphil19:
Hi mate,
Ad browser screenshots:
Are you sure your browser is not forcing the picture quality down for mobile browsing? Plz check for such option as you can see the text is sharp its the images wich look bad.
Ad camera pic:
As the previous poster advised, Plz clean your lens
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Hi Cloned, thanks for your reply...
Lens is clean.....it's a brand new phone for gosh sake. Also, if indeed the pictures are only terribly because of some setting, do you know where that option is? I'm unable to find it. Also, you should know that although for some reason text appears clear here, its quite blockey on the actual phone...
anybody?....
Dunno what's wrong with your phone, maybe you got a dud. Take it back to store for exchange.
Intratech said:
Dunno what's wrong with your phone, maybe you got a dud. Take it back to store for exchange.
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Tried. They insisted it was "just part of the phone".
cphil19 said:
Tried. They insisted it was "just part of the phone".
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There is nothing wrong with your screenshots, just looks like your viewing a mobile website that has gfx for low res devices, and scales them. Text looks sharp and believe it or not that uses pixels too
I've never seen any pictures that pixelated on my sg2...
Sure there are crisper reso screens out there, but the sg2 still looks fine.
Screenshots are no indication of display quality at all, it's just a bitmap of what *should* be displayed, not what it actually looks like on a particular screen (would need a macro photo for that).
Seriously, you can't use screen caps to compare screen sharpness. A screen cap on a SGSII will look the same as a SGSI as the image is captured before it reaches the AMOLED display.
That lens of yours looks dirty. Here is a photo that I took with my SGSII through a window and it is heaps sharper.
cphil19 said:
Also, on a separate note......8 megapixel camera? Seriously? Here's a photo I took today in Ginza on maximum resolution, superfine. The result, cloudy/washed out/blurry. Seriously......photos came out better on my 3 mega pixel 3GS (no, not a fanboy). Look for yourself.... (again, make sure you're looking at the picture 100%).
What the heck is going on?
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Clean ur lense..that is not hygienic at all...use the cloth they use for monitors..
The sgs-II can make very good pictures
Yours look like it still has the protective plastic on the lens and a saved screenshot does not show nothing about the quality of the screen.
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Remove the back cover, clean the lens like everyone has mentioned above and then put a small sellotape to cover both the flash and the camera from scratches.. put the cover back on once done.. you might want to repeat these once every alternate weeks depending on how you use your phone and where you place it, etc.
- hitu

photo quality

Hi,
Can someone with leaked ICS upload some pictures from phone?
I'm wondering is moto made some quality improvements over GB...
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The quality is just as good as before but tapatalk cuts down the picture size by a good bit so take that as it is. This is from a maxx on ics 206 of my carport floor I did Saturday.
The pictures look great. I wish there was a full resolution upload option
Here's another shot but indoors.
I am very pleased indeed with photo quility especially using ics camera +
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stkiswr said:
The quality is just as good as before but tapatalk cuts down the picture size by a good bit so take that as it is. This is from a maxx on ics 206 of my carport floor I did Saturday.
The pictures look great. I wish there was a full resolution upload option
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That is one nice floor. I am planing to do the same thing with my garage floor.
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droidxrooting said:
That is one nice floor. I am planing to do the same thing with my garage floor.
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Thanks. It is worth it if you are considering it. Its very nice to walk out into a nice clean carport and not get dirty feet lol. My kids can sit down now and move around out there. I have maybe $130 invested in it and at minimum added value to my home.
that's one fine details on the cat!
Someone else gets some pictures blurry with 2.3.6 stock?
I hope the camera gets improved with ICS update
This thing takes 8MP images and folks are comparing scaled-down web-shots?
Giblet535 said:
This thing takes 8MP images and folks are comparing scaled-down web-shots?
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When I look at the pictures I upload on my PC they look a little bit blurry, but when looking directly on them from the phone they seem "fine"
On .210
this is with my xt912 P:
megaomg said:
this is with my xt912 P:
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Cute is that with the ICS leak?
eyriiii said:
When I look at the pictures I upload on my PC they look a little bit blurry, but when looking directly on them from the phone they seem "fine"
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The blur is probably because a phone's shape doesn't lend itself to taking a shot AND holding the phone still. Also, the sensor is teensy tiny, and it doesn't have a very fast "shutter speed". So, it's like taking pics with an SLR in dim light with a 1/30 second shutter: it's going to have motion blur w/o a stand. If you want crystal clear shots, use a vise/stand of some kind.
Maybe Canon's or Nikon's next pro-sumer DSLR will make/receive calls, texts, and play Angry Birds.
I use CameraZoomFX which lets me prop the phone and 'tell' the camera to take the picture hands-free. Those shots are always very clear. Handheld shots, not so much.
Giblet535 said:
The blur is probably because a phone's shape doesn't lend itself to taking a shot AND holding the phone still. Also, the sensor is teensy tiny, and it doesn't have a very fast "shutter speed". So, it's like taking pics with an SLR in dim light with a 1/30 second shutter: it's going to have motion blur w/o a stand. If you want crystal clear shots, use a vise/stand of some kind.
Maybe Canon's or Nikon's next pro-sumer DSLR will make/receive calls, texts, and play Angry Birds.
I use CameraZoomFX which lets me prop the phone and 'tell' the camera to take the picture hands-free. Those shots are always very clear. Handheld shots, not so much.
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Oh will be nice to have a call with a 70-200 2.8 in hand
Okay, I'm lost....
Can anyone who still had pics prior to the leaks and NOW have one of the leaks post comparison pics? I mean seriously, as crisp as the photos are on GB, I can't see how there's such a need for enhancement to the razr's photo quality that it warrants a full thread. lol I'm still on a totally stock GB rom (anxiously biting my nails waiting for the update) and I'm ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHED at how crisp and detailed the camera's photos are.
Lol. Calls will be short with that lens on there. It would be funny though, seeing how huge people's arms get from holding a 4 kilo phone all day. They'd look like hermit crabs.
yeah its with ics leaks .204 let me look at my fb pictures maybe i got one with GB
i found one with GB
BTW - I've tried all of the "pro" camera apps available, and Camera FV-5 is easily the best one.
As to pictures on ICS vs GB, at least on .79, there isn't a huge change. It's all in the app you use.
The stock camera app on ICS seems to focus better prior to capture.
A good camera app should be able to take the same quality pic on GB as it would on ICS unless there was a flaw in the camera drivers under GB, which I don't think there was.
The Razr seems to have a decent sensor, but cheap / small optics. Don't get me wrong, it does take pretty good shots, but not like you'd see on a newer device with bigger, higher quality lenses. The sensor is only half of the battle, but people give the megapixel count all of their attention.
Some of the newer cams (like the OneX) have better optics and you can tell the difference right away. Plus a bigger lens helps keep noise down in dark shots.

Mod & Stock Camera Comparisons !!!

Hi Everyone, this post is not to hurt anyone. i respect all developers and everyone who contribute to this Forum
i have flashed Cloudy Pro II V1.2 rom on my G2. Everything was perfect ( one word amazing) but my only worry was Camera. i have a strong feeling that the camera has lost image in depth quality and clarity in images. i dont know which MOD was added to Cloudy Pro 1.2 rom. but still i have flashed Jishnu's & Xdabbeb Camera Mods. But the result was the same.
so i though of removing the camera apk that came with rom and tried to replace stock camera, but i failed (unfortunately stopped error) - may be the reason could be this Rom is based on G Pro 2.
i started asking suggestions everyone what's needed to be done to come on Stock 4.4.2 Camera with this ROM. but everyone suggested Xdabbeb & Jishnu's Camera. so finally i thought of a real comparison with stock camera.
though these mods are capable of more features like 4k/magic focus etc, my main concern was image quality
All Left images were taken by LG G2 Stock 4.4.2 Camera.
All Right images were taken by LG G2 Cloudy Pro II V1.2 with Xdabbeb Camera Mod.
Pictures were Clicked with same settings on both phones
Can any one suggest me how to mod Stock G2 or G Pro 2 Camera in Cloudy Pro II ROM......please i love this ****ing awesome ROM
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I like right one more. Better white balance and reflections.
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yeah the right one looks better in my opinion. Also the only thing I don't like about this camera is that the auto focus is slow, there is no option for continuous focus.
Hey so I had a question so you tried both xbaees camera mod and jinushus camera mod. Which was better in your opinion than the stock cloudypro 1.2 because auto focus is really slow for me.
kapybarus said:
I like right one more. Better white balance and reflections.
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r u sure that right side pictures are better ? bcoz when i was clicking these pictures my camera (with mod camera) was looking bad on screen compared that too stock ones
AndrewM3 said:
yeah the right one looks better in my opinion. Also the only thing I don't like about this camera is that the auto focus is slow, there is no option for continuous focus.
Hey so I had a question so you tried both xbaees camera mod and jinushus camera mod. Which was better in your opinion than the stock cloudypro 1.2 because auto focus is really slow for me.
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yeah both are great Mods you dont really feel much difference. i say that give a try for both of them
i liked Xdabbeb ones better than the Ones in Cloudy Pro II ROM.
The picture on the right is underexposed loosing details on shadows, has much more chroma noise than the left and it is more bluish. Were the lights yellow where you shoot the pictures?...
The camera in all smartphones really sucks...
citytrader said:
The picture on the right is underexposed loosing details on shadows, has much more chroma noise than the left and it is more bluish. Were the lights yellow where you shoot the pictures?...
The camera in all smartphones really sucks...
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yeah there were some yellowish lights at that place. now as a photographer according to you what do you choose ?
Left ones or Right ones ?
SandyKick said:
yeah there were some yellowish lights at that place. now as a photographer according to you what do you choose ?
Left ones or Right ones ?
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I can not make a judgement here because the right pictures are underexposed... :cyclops:
One point that much people confuse is about white balance, they think a picture has correct white balance if the whites are white and this is wrong (except for studio shoots), the correct white balance is when the picture is near to the real life, so the left should be better.
I think you should test again the cameras in two situations, night and day, in day with some trees, grass and sky and the most important thing, you should do a correct exposure compensation (brightness in stock camera) in both shoots, in the day shoots, try not to use auto WB, I dont use auto WB even in pro cameras.
For taking pictures, I recommend to use Camera FV-5 with banding disabled, is the camera application I like most, you can do exposure lock and focus lock separately, I dont like to use a camera app without that functionality.
What the mods to is to decrease the shutter speed and increase the ISO so it can capture moving objects in darker scenes without them getting blurry. This can result in underexposed pictures and more noise which seems to be the case here.
Better on left. Accept it guys, those mods dont do anything good. Imho
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F-Forward said:
What the mods to is to decrease the shutter speed and increase the ISO so it can capture moving objects in darker scenes without them getting blurry. This can result in underexposed pictures and more noise which seems to be the case here.[/QUOTE]
The statement in red is wrong, the increasing ISO increments noise as you can see in the pictures, if you increase speed and ISO respecting the equation of exposure, it will get correct exposure.
Another important point, users should try to avoid increasing ISO if its possible, increasing ISO has bad impact in the photo in noise, color rendition degrades and dynamic range diminishes as ISO increases .
You can not do magic with the LG G2 sensor, its the same crap you will find in every smartphone.
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The camera blows in this phone no matter what you do.
Kreuger said:
The camera blows in this phone no matter what you do.
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Main problem for everyone is that LG G2 Camera is way more capable of iPhone 5S but the software provided by LG Screws it up
why don't you try HDR SNAP Camera to see how capable is LG G2 camera
I just flashed xdaba cam mod and its amazing now.
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Front Camera is TERRIBLE

So.. I was originally very happy with my purchase, but I just booted up Snapchat to send off a couple selfies from the new tech... And the front-facing camera's picture quality is GOD AWFUL.
It's grainy as ****, and it's got all these weird discolourations to it! Is that just me, or anyone else getting it?
Edit: Just took a couple pictures with both my S4 and Z2 to post here and show them, but it would appear that once you actually TAKE the photo with the Z2, all that awfulness goes away! Snapchat, for some reason, keeps it though. I think Snapchat might have to modify their app for this phone... And I don't see that being likely in the near future.
Here's the break-down. It appears that the built-in camera app greatly messes with the picture the front camera takes, and this might be some kinda weird feature. Anyways, here's two pictures from the Z2, one from the camera app, one from Snapchat, and a picture from my S4 for comparison.
Z2 Snapchat Front-Cam Picture:
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Well either way Xperia Front Cameras are usualy horible so in some circumstances the front cam may produce horrible quality pics
Usualy this happens in lower light
Except I've found that it really /isn't/ that bad. Just that for some reason, Sony's software kinda... Post-produces the frontcam's pic after you take it. SnapChat doesn't do that, and thus, the pictures come out looking horrible.
King Cole said:
Except I've found that it really /isn't/ that bad. Just that for some reason, Sony's software kinda... Post-produces the frontcam's pic after you take it. SnapChat doesn't do that, and thus, the pictures come out looking horrible.
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That right there is an perfect example of X-Reality Image Processing engine
Perhaps this is similar to what is occurring in my pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742862
Sorely disappointed theres some **** going on doing nothing good to my photos..
There's an option in the camera settings for picture smoothing on the front camera.
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Qazz~ said:
Perhaps this is similar to what is occurring in my pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742862
Sorely disappointed theres some **** going on doing nothing good to my photos..
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Um.. Idk about what's going on with you, but mine's a little different. Go check the OP, I put up some pictures.
edge3uk said:
There's an option in the camera settings for picture smoothing on the front camera.
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Yeah, I tried disabling that, nothing changed. :/
Same here, I only have a problem with the camera when using Snapchat. Do you think it is fixable with software update? Are you on .55 or .69?
My phone is .55.
I'm on .69, and I was having this problem both before and after I unlocked.
I'm sure this could be fixed with a software update, but I have no idea how fast that would happen, lol.
SAME
Yea my z2 front camera is horrible too. Its really grainy and theres discoloration but once u take the photo the discoloration disappears but its kinda grainy. Is sony working on a slution or no?
I'm running CM11, it seems fine to me, at least on snapchat...
I understand your problem, but this is the 2.2MP front camera we are talking about, its not right to expect clear n perfect selfies especially when capturing indoors! I'm really happy about the front cam as it produces really acceptable photos! Outdoors, it is much better! I agree that there is some discolouration and grains but that is expected!!
Using the word terrible is terrible!!!
Same problem on snapchat
I used the front cam to take some selfies. Seemed okay once the pictures were processed. But in Snapchat the selfies turn out grainy only. Any solution? I
anyone got a solution for this. It doesn't feel right or logical for a high end phone
sierrarohan said:
I understand your problem, but this is the 2.2MP front camera we are talking about, its not right to expect clear n perfect selfies especially when capturing indoors! I'm really happy about the front cam as it produces really acceptable photos! Outdoors, it is much better! I agree that there is some discolouration and grains but that is expected!!
Using the word terrible is terrible!!!
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Can I ask you though if that picture youve taken should have shown the structures with straight lines as straight lines, and not as crooked as they are?
That is my biggest gripe, the truly awful lens distortion.
naujoks said:
Can I ask you though if that picture youve taken should have shown the structures with straight lines as straight lines, and not as crooked as they are?
That is my biggest gripe, the truly awful lens distortion.
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Yes that is indeed the case!! However, these distortions are not visible when I take selfies outside, even in waterfall!!
So I guess, when not even a single Human is 100% correct, how a gadget can be! Overall, front cam takes a shot which pleases my eye, and thats all I want from a inferior sensor.

Not satisfied with the camera

Anyone else not satisfied with the camera?
I already took a great shot but most of them just feel soft and not sharp at all!
A lot of noise as well when zooming in.
I'm quite shocked as my OnePlus 3 takes better pictures (GCam).
The selfie cam is the worst. On OP3 I can basically see all of my skins pores, beard hair etc.
On the mate it's just soft(no matter the setting).
I'm on firmware 122 btw.
Would be good to know if that's just my taste or a wrong setting maybe?
Thanks!
In general:
Very satisified with the back camera.
But the selfiecam is kind of 'boring'.
You should provide pics to make your case as the question is so broad and the answers are so many.
Took a few pics today and really impressed with the back camera. The front camera isn't great and beautifies every image and looks soft. Hopefully a software update could fix this. Came from a pixel 2 which I think are the ones to beat at moment for camera phones.
Back camera is really great. In selfie camera there is an option to switch off beauty mode. Try with that option and you will get better selfies than Samsung Galaxy flagships.
I just posted to a similar thread over in news aand discussion.....
I too am disappointed with the M20 pro camera, mostly indoors in not so good (but hardly terrible) light the images are really quite soft
Looking at the exif it always seems to choose a really low shutter speed and as others have said no OIS on the main camera. Like I said disappointing, I am on .238, no idea if there are any camera improvements to come on .266 or 9.1?
Light can change your thoughts
Yes the mate 20p camera tends to take soft and sometimes blurry photos. I blame the lack of OIS.
With a little extra effort you can take awesome photos, but for point and shoot many other phones do that better.
I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
nico933 said:
I just moved from op3 to mate 20 pro, principally for the camera and... I'm disappointed, my ops3 photo's with gcam are a lot better! All photos in middle light (and hdr condition) look like they are painted!
I tried to make some side by died) side comparison and one plus 3 photos are better in everything
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Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
crixley said:
Lol I wouldn't buy this for a minute. Must be you or your settings
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Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
nico933 said:
Me is not possibile, I was keeping one phone in a hand and the other one in the other, setting i don't know maybe.. M but I just opened the camera and chosen hdr..., have you some setting to suggest?
Some photos are good but others no..., color are a little bit more ok and grass looks painted
Now in no more at home, this weekend I'm coming to post some comparisons if needed
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Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
I'm very satisfied with the camera, I think this is all about setting, not the camera or the phone.
crixley said:
Are you using vivid mode? Try turning that to standard
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I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
nico933 said:
I tried that setting but it doesn't look to influence the "painted effect"
This weekend on going to make a more detailed test and on case I'm going to post some photos
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Turn off AI maybe. Honestly if you're trying to tell us one of the best rated phone cameras of all time gets bested by one of the most mediocre, you'd better have some valid evidence lol
My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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My only gripe is the AI sometimes gets confused like when it thought this shot was winter and it changed the images completely
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That is a totally feasible complaint as I have had this happen as well. Sometimes AI is better off for certain shots for sure
That's why it is handy on the latest 9.1 update to turn on and off without going into settings. You can also of course click the X when it detects what it think it is. I have had no issues with the camera in default mode and actually find it performs better after the last update, especially the transition when going to 3x zoom.
what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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what bugs me is the "hold steady while camera sharpens the image".
Is there a way to avoid this?
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Nope, The phone is taking a auto hdr(thats even more extreme than the HDR mode btw) photo,generally it doesnt matter if you move or take another photo while the camera tells you that, i just ignore it.

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