[Q] ROM/RADIO issues with HD2 T8585 - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
Model : HTC HD2 T8585
s/n : HT03XNW03568
IMEI : 35412003737464001
OS : 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila version : 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version : 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
ROM DATE : 01/11/10
RADIO VERSION : 2.06.51.07
PROTOCOL VERSION 15.30.50.07U
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..

enigma075 said:
Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
.......
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..
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Your Phone is Vodafone HD2 Sir
Go to here and download with your S/N
the new LEO-S Vodafone UK 3.14 Stock ROM
see you, in Artemis ROM thread...

hi there..
Thanks for being the 1st to reply spot on...I have a few questions though (pardon my ignorance on this and please be patient)
- The version i currently have is 1.66 whereas on the link which is for Vodaphone it is 3.14... is it ok to str8 jump to this version or are there any other versions I need to first update and then go to the latest one ? BTW I use a separate service provider in India (and not vodafone).
- I have Microsoft My Phone on the phone which I have loaded all the contacts/sms etc on. After the download is over, am assuming I will have to reload all the contacts/sms again ?
- I am downloading the ROM upgrade file on the desktop (use Vista) without attaching the phone with the USB cable. Am assuming to run the .exe file I will need to attach the phone to laptop and then run the file ?
- Will the Radio versions get upgraded too ? As I think the calls dropping due to network issues is to do with the Radio versions...
Kindly revert when convenient, the download is ongoing on my laptop as I write this message...
Cheers and thank you again for your help.
Greetings from India

to each question above.
correct
correct
correct
no, you can't change radio on 3.14 roms because there is no hspl for it yet.

hi there,
Thanks for your kind revert.
Does that mean the call dropping thing will not improve with the new ROM... the Radio version shows 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 where as the version I am on is 2.06.51.07. Hope this Radio upgrade along with the ROM upgrade helps cause the call drops are quiet unprofessional especially when someone calls from work... and I don't seem to face this problem on other handsets which are less than a fraction of a cost to the HD2...

yea going from 2.06.51 to 2.15.50 should certainly see improvement.

Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delievered sucessfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps

Hi there,
I just did a ROM upgrade... Thank you all in here...
Some more questions on it...
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
- While sending SMS, it quickly shows sending failed. After a 2nd retry, the message goes thru successfully... ne reason why ?
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
Kindly advise/comment on the above when you guys can...
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers!

gweurk said:
Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delivered successfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps
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lol, not bad news for me, i hate the 2.15.50 radio, its rubbish. i was being general, and the Op should see an improvement by moving up a few radio versions.

enigma075 said:
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
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thats the 'splashscreen', its just a picture, you can change it just like flashing roms.
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
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shouldnt need to wait for them to do anything
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connection setup.
Im surprised it didn't run automatically when the phone restarted.

hi Samsamuel,
Thanks, as always for your help.
- How does one change that vodafone logo showing up on start up or on shutdown ?
- I too was surprised as to how the wap/gprs settings didnt come on automatically... finally after around 14hrs of logging a complaint, waiting for 2hrs on the phone (literally over several calls) and visiting the service providers store, the WAP/GPRS settings were provided and I could get my contact list reloaded again...Now you know the level of service that we get.
- Any other recommendations on any applications / upgrades on the phone would be appreciated...Do you recommend I change the radio version as the current one that i have with this upgrade is 2.15 and didn't notice much difference in the connectivity area (which is my main problem really) though have used it only for a day as yet.
Cheers!

see the 'splashscreen watermark' link in my sig for the technicals of flashing splashscreens.
for recommendations, i rarely offer recommendations, except cookies home tab
i didnt like 2.15 radio, but its very VERY much trial and error, , no two people agree on radio performance. for me 2.10.50 and 2.11.50 work best.

Related

UK O2 XDA Phoning issues ..........

Hi chaps,
Being on this forum for a few weeks now and am really impressed with the help received.
I have an small issue with my XDA (back to business ). Its really the phone part that causing probs. On two occasions i have tried to dial a number, it tries to dial for about 3 secs then just makes a little chime and ends. I tried about 5 different numbers and its the same.
i checked for reception and it was on max bars - why was is not dialling?
I did a soft reset and after a few attempts it sorted itself out.
I am a little new to xda (how'd ya guess :? ) - is this something to do with the radio version of the phone, ie something i can update?
I am using SE 1.1 (have not taken the plunge to 1.2 .. but thanks jeff !)
Rom version = 3.17.03 ENG
Rom Date = 05/15/03
Radio version = 4.20.00
protocol version = 32S54
If i need to update the radio, could you kindly tell me the link.
Thanks for your time.
Ali
Hi Ali,
I think the problem you are describing is caused by a bug. What is really happening is the phone number you are dialling is busy but the XDA can't handle this and so just gives you a rather unimpressive beep. The fact that after you softboot a coupld of times it goes away only means that the number is no longer busy.
I believe this is fixed in Pocket PC 2003.
Cheers, Malachi
...aren't chaps something cowboys wear?
Hi Malachi
thanks for your reply.
you are right about the chaps but it also means
chap2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chp)
n. Informal
A man or boy; a fellow. :wink:
i understand what you are saying about the phone being engaged, the thing is, i did try a few different numbers... hrm ...
you say its fixed in ppc2003. I have seen that on edonkey... but dont i need the ppc2003 phone edition or something?
is it safe to just download ppc2003 from edonkey and install ?
can i ask, is ppc2003 what you are running?
what is a radio update for?
thanks for your help

Desperatly Seeking ruu152113wwe_cdl-sku1.zip

If anyone has this, PLEASE let me know. I can't seem to find it and have to downgrade from the rom image posted this morning. I can provide space for you to upload it. It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jon.
is it what are you looking for?
ruu113sku1.zip
No, i'm looking for the upgrade that, until yesterday, was at clubimate. The update that they posted today broke Ostia on my device, and I need to downgrade to get it back.
i think that i have it as well... have to check my another HD
where you want me to post it for you if I will find it?
See the private message I'll be sending you in a moment. Thanks!
Can you also send me a link to the ROM as well? I also upgraded to 1.66.00, but my GPS no longer works.
Trent
It is currently loading to your FTP
TO TRSC
I do not have a space on my FTP to send you a link... you should ask for it from dadarkmcse...
I am planning to upgrade to 1.66 within next 15-20 minutes... If you are looking to donwgrade - is it mean it is so bad or something just not working for you specifically?
Paul
Once its uploaded, it will be at http://bugjr.com/xda/ for as long as needed. The reason I'm downgrading is:
1. Pharos Ostia is closing when I try to use my SD GPS - I believe its fighting with the serial bluetooth for Com 4.
2. My GPRS hasn't worked all day, but I think this may be another issue as I've tried other ROMs.
Jon.
OK.. it is completed...
Did I understood correctly? you have Secure Digital GPS? I was thinking to buy it... still cannot make a decision
Is it good? Where did you buy it and with what kind of maps it is coming with?
I have one (and an extra i'm selling on ebay right now for $200 - see http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=64371&sspagename=STRK:MESSE:IT&rd=1 I see you're in canada, and I'd ship up there eventhough my listing says US only, if you're interested.). I have used it with Pharos's Ostia program and, as long as you have a clear view of the sky, it works nicely. In cars it needs to be as far forward on the windshield as possible to maintain a lock, but walking around outside it can maintain a lock just fine. I purchased mine for about $244 from Harmony Computers, and it took 3 weeks to ship (it was really annoying, resulting in me making numerous calls) so make sure they have it in stock and ready to ship whereever you buy.
THank you
let me see what is it and read reviews specifically on this model...
Get back to you in case will deside to buy it...
One thing for sure - i am planning to use ONLY in the car - i do not need it otherwise...
Thanks Jon, you have saved the day. :lol:
Let this be a warning to anyone with a bluetooth GPS...
Don't go near 1.66.00WWE until proper bluetooth serial support is introduced...
As I replied to carrierdevices:
When clubimate.com post new versions on the ROM (1.66.00WWE) on their web site, could they:
1. Make sure that the previous version is still available (and listed)
2. Tell people (who may own NAVMAN GPS devices) that the Bluetooth serial support is still not perfect, and maybe they should not consider upgrading until the full serial bluetooth stack is delivered, that allows you to choose a COM port to which a bluetooth device is paired - just like Pocket Bluetooth Tools 1012.
Trent
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trsc said:
Thanks Jon, you have saved the day. :lol:
Let this be a warning to anyone with a bluetooth GPS...
Don't go near 1.66.00WWE until proper bluetooth serial support is introduced...
As I replied to carrierdevices:
When clubimate.com post new versions on the ROM (1.66.00WWE) on their web site, could they:
1. Make sure that the previous version is still available (and listed)
2. Tell people (who may own NAVMAN GPS devices) that the Bluetooth serial support is still not perfect, and maybe they should not consider upgrading until the full serial bluetooth stack is delivered, that allows you to choose a COM port to which a bluetooth device is paired - just like Pocket Bluetooth Tools 1012.
Trent
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Gotta give credit where credit is due, it was really noviur who saved teh day - he had the file - i'm just providing temporary housing for it! I'll leave it up for a few days, and if anyone needs it past that time, pm me and I'll get it for you.
Jon.
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dadarkmcse said:
trsc said:
Thanks Jon, you have saved the day. :lol:
Let this be a warning to anyone with a bluetooth GPS...
Don't go near 1.66.00WWE until proper bluetooth serial support is introduced...
As I replied to carrierdevices:
When clubimate.com post new versions on the ROM (1.66.00WWE) on their web site, could they:
1. Make sure that the previous version is still available (and listed)
2. Tell people (who may own NAVMAN GPS devices) that the Bluetooth serial support is still not perfect, and maybe they should not consider upgrading until the full serial bluetooth stack is delivered, that allows you to choose a COM port to which a bluetooth device is paired - just like Pocket Bluetooth Tools 1012.
Trent
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Gotta give credit where credit is due, it was really noviur who saved teh day - he had the file - i'm just providing temporary housing for it! I'll leave it up for a few days, and if anyone needs it past that time, pm me and I'll get it for you.
Jon.
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Yeah, sorry noviur. That ROM really saved my life. I am currently very dependant on the GPS.
Many thanks again, to both of you.
Trent
GPS and 1.66.00WWE
THANK YOU ALL for posting the 1.52 ROM "update". I just purchased my iMATE and it came shipped with 1.66.00WWE and radio version 1.10. I purchased (the next day), a Royaltek BlueGPS receiver based on rav reviews, only to find out that I could bond to the iMATE, but couldn't get it to handshake with the iMATE (no blue light on the GPS, no software recognition of the device).
I then researched, and found all over the web, that 1.66.00WWE doesn't work with GPS, and that the Pocket Bluetooth Tools app that Tobias put out still doesn't help.
Then I found out that this will work with 1.52 and the above app. Problem was, until I found this forum with the link, I couldn't find 1.52 ANYWHERE!
THANK YOU ALL! Now, if anyone wants to... can you tell me what I'm going to "lose" by going to 1.52 (ie, what did 1.66 supposedly fix/improve?).
-Kevin.
I spoke too soon
Well, I just d/l'd and tried to install the 1.52 "downgrade" on my iMATE.
It got to the point of "Erasing ROM", sat there for a few minutes, and then aborted out... the screen flashed so fast, I couldn't see what it said. Then, when I tried to rerun it, I got:
"ERROR 100: MODEL ID ERROR 8-N-PH-PH-PH
The ROM image that you are trying to use is not designed to work with your pocketpc. Please check the vendor website and download the correct rom update."
Scared the crap outta me... fortunately, I was able to use the 1.66 upgrade to restore back to 1.66.
Did any of you have this problem?
-Kevin.
I already saw this kind of messages on forum. It was said that 1.66 is not downgradable.... i am not sure if it is true, since I downgraded from I-Mate 1.66 to O2 1.60

phone off and low signal always

can anyone help me with my Qtek please?it's been 4 month since i got it and every person who calls me,must call me more than once for them to reach me coz they tell me my phones always closed but i never closed my phone since 1995,only to change phones when i buy new ones!!! n.b. i have GPRS but that's not the main prob coz when i disconnect it from my line it's the same prob...!anybody? one more thing my signal is always low.places where i could have called with my 6600 nokia now with the Qtek i can't.
thanks for the help in advance guys
my personal experience when i was upgrading throu diffrent ROM's with one i noticed that i had a low signal then i upgraded to another ROM 4.01.16 and it work fine now
mine is Qtek 1010
Regards
sevag said:
can anyone help me with my Qtek please?it's been 4 month since i got it and every person who calls me,must call me more than once for them to reach me coz they tell me my phones always closed but i never closed my phone since 1995,only to change phones when i buy new ones!!! n.b. i have GPRS but that's not the main prob coz when i disconnect it from my line it's the same prob...!anybody? one more thing my signal is always low.places where i could have called with my 6600 nokia now with the Qtek i can't.
thanks for the help in advance guys
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Listen bro I can help you with something and try it on your own risk flash it with the newest IMATE Rom and RSU this would help thus the QTEK 2020 has the same hardware as the Imate get the downloads from here:
ROM+GSM:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172126WWE_imate.exe
English Extended Rom:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172800WWE_CDL_SKU1.exe
Arabic Extended Rom:
http://www.clubimate.com/Support/RUU172810WWE_CDL_SKU2.exe
Use the Arabic Extended Rom for arabic support in your device..Good luck now.

Tytn (Trion) ROM Update (O2 Germany) - available 17-9-06

HERMIMG_O2_1.25.207.1_SHIP.nbh
http://www.o2online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdatrion/index.html?nidx=1
did not test it yet - will do when i´m back home and have a few mins spare time
finally! thanks for the headsdup!
@dutty
give it a try please and let me (us) know if you notice any fixes or improvements
Wiki updated, and ROM moved to safe heaven in FTP:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Shipped_Complete_Updates/O2_1.25.207.1_GER.exe
Thanks guys
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
dutty said:
okay. it's flashed, i havent noticed anything different tho!
screenalignment issues are still present and there is only one new cab : suspend_resume_null.cab not sure what it does as i really see no difference.
i wonder why they never release any changelogs..
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The screen alignment issue is a hardware fault, about this problem this is the email that I have received by htc europe:
Good Afternoon,
There are now procedures in place for fixing the Screen alignment issue with the TyTN devices. This is a hardware issue that we have identified and we are offering a replacement to owners of affected devices with two conditions.
1: The device must be returned with all accompanying accessories.
Everything that was in the box when you bought the device must be in the box when you return it.
2: The device must be a Genuine HTC Badged device. This means that the device cannot be a Vodafone v1605, an O2 XDA Trion, a T-Mobile Vario II or any other device based on the TyTN, but that is not actually a TyTN. For these devices, you must contact the Network/Reseller for further advice on this issue.
If you meet these two provisions, you may contact your nearest repair centre to arrange the swap. Please place everything back into the original box and arrange to have the device picked up. It will then be tested to confirm that it has the problem, and then it will be swapped for a replacement unit.
If you are unable to return everything, you will be eligible for a repair under the warranty. For this also, you can contact your nearest repair centre to arrange this.
I must note that this email is a standard answer. Other people have received the same email.
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
Hello,
can anyone tell me the version and date from the file SAPSettings.exe in the windows-directory from the new O2-Update?
Thanks
Mad_M said:
Hi,
does it exist O2 English ROM yet ?
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No at moment o2 uk doesnt sell the trion.
You can find it only in o2 german
It is possible create a MUI for this Rom?
OK i am again disappointed from this O2 sh*t realease.
The GPRS/UMTS Radio disconnects itself and i have to hard resed my device again. Now i know why i moved away from the O2 ROM. I flashed my device back to the updated O2 ROM in hope the issue was only a temporary problem and will be fixed in the new update but its not.
I am considering to replace my device. With this problem i cant live for much longer time.
Overall i am a lot more unsatisfied with the TRION. The Wizard from Cingular didnt had those major issues and performed very well. It doesnt matter if the TRION has a 400 Mhz CPU inside compared to the Wizard it works more worse and I am going back to use my Wizard until O2 has a stable release of the TRION ROM. :evil:
EXT_ROM keypad .cab
Hey,
does anybody knows which .cab from O2 Ext_ROM is for keypad (phone dialer) layout and colors ?
Tnx
http://rapidshare.com/files/43432242/RUU_Hermes_O2_DE_3.54.207.2_6275_1.47.00.00_108_Ship.rar
here is officail wm 6 o2 germany

Help, technical gurus - please

I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
Many thanks for your attention and future help.
ROM version 1.18.255.3
ROM date 07/22/06
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
Once I hear that you have alignment problems, then, from what I hear you have bad luck since you have one of the firt TyTns out there. I heard that HTC replaces these units. It hapens to be a common problem on the early devices.
I have my MDA Vario II (a variation of a Hermes) and till now 4 days long extremely happy with everything.
natgoldhaber said:
I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
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Well, I am sorry you are having these problems. I don't think most of them are a Tytn problems in general.
1) First I have heard of this. I have had the Tytn for a month now and don't have that problem. I move in and out of a 3g area and whether on GSM or UMTS, call quality has been great (better than my Wizzard in fact). Maybe your problem is a SIM issue since this phone is not supported by your carrier where you others might be? I went and got a new SIM when I got mine so I don't know if that could be an issue or not.
2) I don't use many apps. I do use SBSH Weather v1.3.3 (regular icons) and it works well. No issues at all, updates just fine etc. I thought the VGA icons were for devices with a VGA screen (Universal for example). To the best of my knowledge the Wizzard, Tytn etc are not VGA devices so I don't think it helps to use the VGA icons, and who knows, maybe it could cause an issue on a non-VGA device. I have heard that SPB has issues. Slingplayer also works well for me, streaming video runs great.
3) I get ~3-4 days out of the battery if just used for calls, weather updates, and light browsing. Heavy UMTS browsing or streaming cuts that down significantly to 24-36 hours. I don't use push mail so don't know there, but there might be a config setting that is causing your device to get polled too frequently. I do know that one time I went into the phone menu and Band page to set Band to UMTS only. I forgot I did that, left a UMTS area and the phone went into constant network search mode instead of switching to GSM. That drained my battery in something less than 8 hrs.
4) I also don't have this problem. There are many reports of this problem though and the only fix I am aware of is a replacement.
Bottom line is I suspect you have a bad phone (reception and alignment issues) as well as setup issues or program conflicts causing your apps problems.
try to upgrade to the lastest rom!
natgoldhaber said:
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
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I would love to take your money, but I think you should take it back and get something else. Maybe even a Treo. The reason I say this is because the TyTn is just not ready for Prime Time unless you are a power user or someone who doesn't feel the need to complain because it doesn't work properly. Power user go around these issues and figure out the problems.
This is no way an insult to you, it's just that if you can't deal with the problems, and you need to rely on a phone/pda, and email is very important to you maybe even go as low as to get a blackberry. In the meantime I personally would keep the TyTn and explore it and fully understand how it works. When you are ready to dive in and start using it as a "power user" then you will no longer need to worry about it's faults.
This is coming from 2 years of experience with the O2 Xda IIs. Which was the buggiest pocketpc phone that ever came out and today is one of the top, mainly due to the fact that once the ROM is hacked the development efforts go up considerably and you see increased productivity and usability.
But if you need the money, just get a refund.
Sorry about my blunt response, but I had a friend who I converted from a palm to a Blue Angel. He didn't like it so I got him into a wizard. He curse at it for a while, then he started loving it after a few weeks of using it. Now he would never go back to a Palm or a Treo or anything else. I got my TyTn only last week and have cursed it to hell and back several thousand times. But this is just the way it goes when you're one of the early adopters. Especially when the phone is not commercially available to the US and Canada.
Time heals all.
Fully agree with you axiom, the most sincere response you could have given him.
I also come from the BlueAngel and was one of the early adopters, now running helmi's 1.32 rom, that's why I truely understand what you mean
Thanks pof for backing me up. I am also still using my BlueAngel with with the 1.32 rom but primarily in my car for navigation. This way I don't have to spend another few hundred dollars on a Nav system. And it really bothers me when tomtom loads faster on my BlueAngel then it does on my TyTn, but then I am hopeful that the TyTn will prevail when the time is write and all our heads are in the right place.
As always, everyone is welcome to post their problems, concerns, and findings and I am always pushing people to hang in there because "I know" there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for all the thoughtful replys - but....
Perhaps this is a device that is a little too early for me. But I will not return it. I love the speed of the Cingular 3G network. And I am blown away by how well Exchange/Outlook push works. I would never go back to a Treo or to a Blackberry.
I was rather hoping someone may have an idea about an improved ROM. I did have a direct conversation with HTCEurope's tech support office. They said they were well aware of the problems with applications, especially with the Audible player. They wistfully referred to the folks in Taiwan creating a new ROM - any month now.
I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
Many thanks.
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I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
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Oh please don't install the cingular beta ROM. Infact, as much I enjoyed using it for testing purposes, the last thing you want to do is start pushing ROMs. I am also waiting for a newer ROM, I was one of the first along with pof and others who installed the cingular roms and found some harsh truths, and some benefits. However, I went back to the dopod rom, with a radio update from the cingular rom. And this was a journey in possibly bricking my unit because going back from the cingular to one of the other roms is a chance and you need your original rom to go back.
If you must pursue upgrading your ROM, please keep a few things in mind:
1) And very important: If you don't know what you're doing, you could brick your unit.
2) A rom upgrade is only as good as the comments it has received from the users on this forum.
3) Most users who use the newest roms are, in most cases, advanced and understand that there will be problems.
4) Once you have started to upgrade your rom, you will be doing it all the time and be ready to reinstall your apps and settings.
If this is all ok to you and you have a back up phone, that you can use while you play with your TyTn, then go ahead and try the Dopod, Imate or TyTn rom. Look through the wiki and you will find all the information you need.
READ EVERYTHING FIRST, THEN START YOUR JOURNEY. The worst thing is having someone tell you "Do a search", or "RTFM", or "Read the wiki". People will respect you more and will be willing to help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
To start you off, I would suggest the Dopod ROM, with radio 1.16. This should take you about 1 hour to update. Then if you're not satisfied with this, then go to the TyTn or the IMate.
I hope this helps, and I have never seen anyone ask for money on here to help our fellow users and if they have, then shame on them. We are all here to learn and teach, this is what makes us a community of excellence.
I hope this helps you and many others on this board. Until the next rom, or hopefully the successful hack of the TyTn rom... Long live xda-developers!
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
As far as the screen alignment issue goes i am shortly sending my TyTN to HTC (in the UK) to get fixed under warranty (ie free)....the guy on the helpline was REALLY helpfull in sorting it out...they estimate a 5 day turnaround for it which is just SWEEEEET......shall be back to my P900 for a few days URGH!
So afaik the screen alignment can be sorted with an under warranty repair
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
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Thanks pof, I am very honored to me contributing to the wiki. Hehe.
There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
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help you more if your questions are legit and the wiki can't help you out.
Thanks.
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There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
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I changed it, but remember that you can edit the wiki too... it's very easy, and if you need help, just ask
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
There were moments of sheer terror. The ROM upload to the phone took hours. In fact, I went to sleep and let it continue through the night. But when I woke up, there was the predicted error message on the TyTN. Just as instructed, after a reset, everything worked perfectly. I will write this up more thoroughly in a day or two after I have a chance to really test the radio.
But thanks for giving me the courage to try the upgrade. I am also including a snippet from a message I received from HTC Support about the next ROM:
"There are no ROM updates available for the TyTN at present, although are actively working one to address various issue customers are experiencing.
We are expecting this to coincide with the Windows Mobile 5 AKU3 update."
Nat
please help/ new to this
I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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This is the TyTn forum. You want to post this in the Universal forum.
natgoldhaber said:
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
If you're experiencing shortened battery life, try changing the push email settings (active sync for the mail server) -- if you set it to other than "as they arrive" to an hour or so, for off-peak, it will really reduce the battery drain. Same with the settings for an POP3 email mailboxes -- change the polling interval to a longer duration. I've found that to be one of the biggest battery drains on my TyTN.
I've had a TyTN for more than 2 months and absolutely love it. Sold my k-jam (wizard) because I want the 3G if Cingular USA ever gets it working in my area. I've found the TyTN faster even on the EDGE network locally and better overall than my k-jam -- seems like the issues with the wizard have been largely addressed. Mind you I've never had the screen alignment problem so I can sympathize with those who do. I did switch my HTC ROM to the Imate ROM and I feel like the stability is better.
Slightly better
natgoldhaber said:
ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
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I think the Cingular 1.16 Radio ROM is just a bit better than the TyTN ROM that was native to my device. It seems very clear and it MAY hold the signal a bit better. My house is in a marginal area, switching constantly between GPRS and UMTS. That may make things difficult. My reception at home is clearer but about the same as my old Treo 650 in terms of maintaining a connection. The 8125 I had on trial from Cingular for a few weeks was better - but of course it had no UMTS.
Might be interesting for someone to do a hack which grabs GPRS during phone conversations in marginal areas and prevents going to UMTS during the call. ?????
I downloaded the fix4cat TyTN tweaker and set audio to "excellent." Not sure what that does, but excellent sounds good. I also enabled HSPDA, but that seems to do nothing.
Anyway I am happy.
The audible player still does not work worth beans (boohoo - their tech support is NO HELP AT ALL) and I had a really terrible experience with Chapura Pocket Mirror which I used successfully on the Treo for years. I need to synchronize public folders on my Exchange server. Any ideas? Chapura is brain dead, temporarily broke my device and made me spend hours recovering my programs and settings.
Finally - anyone ever able to get into a Cisco firewall and look at files on the company server with the VPN software in WM5??? I have tried using PPTP – no luck.
And really finally, thanks to everyone who helped. (Battery life better with push email off and TyTN magically stopped alignment drift completely and I am no longer a ROM virgin).
Nat

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