[Q] Tethering - what exactly is it? - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry for this basic question but I plan to move from windows mobile iPAQ to Archos 101.
I have a very simple phone Nokia 3120 classic which has bluetooth and 3G. When I needed to browse I just connected my iPAQ to phone via bluetooth, dialled something like *xyz*# and that was it, I was on line.
Is this tethering discussed here similar? What is the difference and why is it so complicated taht so many phones fail to tether?
Thanks for your answers.

The process of sharing the internet from your phone to another device like what you are doing is known as tethering. In your case you're making your phone appear as a dial up modem.
In Archos' case, you have some options. I don't know, but I don't believe you can tether an archos to your phone like that. I could be wrong.
As for why some phones fail to tether, it could be a couple of reasons. The most common one is that the phone is putting out an Ad-Hoc wifi signal. All android devices cannot pick up Ad-Hoc (peer2peer) signals, only Infrastructure (Access Points, Routers). There is another option for Bluetooth tethering, which I've gotten to work off my Motorola Droid, but other phones have some issues. I believe its a matter of what bluetooth capabilities the phone has (bluetooth specs similar to things like wireless audio transmitting).
I hope I cleared somethings up

Yes, your old method was basically using the phone like a modem. The tethering mentioned for android, is sharing of the internet connection the phone has.
Smartphones (and many feature phones) have an always on internet connection. It is like a broadband connection, always on and connected. Tethering basically turns your phone into a router, sharing the same connection to the internet with other devices.
The differences in WiFi and bluetooth capabilities is a concern for tethering between devices, so some people have trouble getting it to work.

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[Q] Using phone as wifi router with wifi signal

Alright, did the usual searches and have the usual answers wich don't seem to pertain to what i'm doing.
I have one static connection allowed to wifi router. I wish to use phone to share this connection with more than one device not using mobile data but the broadband connection.
Basically connect phone to broadband wifi. Have devices connect to phone to share wifi.
Again, to prevent any confusion: I do not want to share mobile connection on phone. I wish to share wifi connection with other devices from phone. ie. I have only one connection allowed to router and I wish to use phone to share that connection with PC and PS3.
Sorry for redundancy in stating this but people seem to miss the point or not read and suggest applications like Barnacle wich only share mobile internet or USB tethering wich only works for PC.
Well from what I understand Wi-Fi must be off on phone in order to create the Wi-Fi signal on the phone so this may be impossible
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I know exactly what you are saying, and I am pretty sure it is impossible. I currently have wi-fi service where I have to log in, with only 1 device allowed log in at a time. When you turn on the wi-fi hotspot on your phone, it automatically turns your wi-fi off. You can only use the hotspot feature using your data connection over 3g or 4g. I have tried everything. If you are in the same situation, where you can only log one device on the internet connection, you may want to try spoofing your IP. Change the IP on the other devices to the IP on your phone. This may allow you to log the other devices in as well (so I have read). That may be your only option.
Yeah looks like Im going to connect PC and use an ethernet cable with connection sharing to get PS3 to work. Phone will have to use mobile data unless PC and PS3 arent being used.
Or phone gets wifi and USB tethered to pc and then connection shared (not sure this will work).
sharing wifi connection
I have done this using a Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP ethernet converter. You connect to the wireless source (WAP) then it acts like a router and allows you to plug devices into it, has four ports but you could use a switch if more are needed. Each device aquires an IP from the converter and is hidden to the WAP, looks like one device is connected. Pretty easy to setup. Check it out.

WiFi connection & Hotspot at same time?

Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I don't think so. This sort of negates the purpose of the hotspot function. If you have a wifi connection on your phone, then that same wifi connection is available to other devices. If this is the case, why do you need ANOTHER hotspot? Besides, I think the hotspot needs the wifi radio to serve up the hotspot. I'm not sure, but I don't think it can do that and connect to another wifi connection at the same time.
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
DylanYoung said:
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
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I don't think you understand what I've said.
I'm not certain any software hack would do this. I'm pretty sure you would need two wifi radios to do this. One to receive/transmit to/from whatever hotspot your phone is connected to, and one to receive/transmit as the active hotspot of the phone. There is only one wifi radio in the phone, so.... ?
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I think you are misunderstanding between android wifi cards and PC cards.PC wifi cards can do this work while mobile phones does not because they simply don't have the same hardware.Windows vista/7/8 for example can create hotspot and connect to another network at the same time without problems but mobile phones (not a problem with Android OS) cannot.
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The point is, tethering does not use antenna. In other word we just want to use android device as wifi router while mobile data is not available and our PC don't have wifi antenna
The problem is tethering need to enable with wifi hotspot and it then disable wifi even the tethering does not use antenna. Understand situation now? I think this is more like a bug
Another problem I face is. I want to use my android phone as wifi hotspot. But then I want to use ES file explorer to browse into target device. And It can't find any device while I am being the hotspot myself. I should able to see all device connect to me as I'm the server but I can't. Because when I'm being wifi hotspot I need to disconnect myself from lan network and that's suck
Hotspot and Wi-Fi at the same time
I'll tell you what problems it would solve for my fiance and myself... We live in an area that is rural and surrounded by reservation land. There is no way to get internet here except through our mobile hotspots via our phone provider and the tower less than a mile away. We also use Chromecast and a canon pixma cloud ready printer, however, in order to connect to them, we must turn on our hotspots, yet the printer and chromecast force the Wi-Fi to come on when trying to connect, which then
I'm not certain any software hathen automatically turns the hotspots off, and visa~versa. If allowed to have both on at the same time, connection would be optimal. I've found a way to trick chromecast, but I have to be quick, however, I still cannot connect to the printer. Rather than having every product company change how the connection works, it would be much easier for the two functions to work together if we want them to, without one shutting the other down. That's an example of a problem it would solve.
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
hotspot &wifi simultaneously.
I have the same situation. Do not want to buy yet another device to be able to use chromecast, or any other devices that require both internet access and WiFi! My internet access is my hotspot! Any new info on this? I am rural as well, no cable etc, and my satellite provider has no service even "way out here!" Ha ha
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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This is possible on windows OS with wifi adapter of inbuild device.. but dont know how to accomplish the same on android
Got the Solution Guys!
I suggest you to Use Alcatel OT918N
It must be rooted and having a Custom Rom
(Usually so Easy)
And Then Enjoy a Normal Wifi and A Hotspot At the same Time!!!
Enjoy!!!
Btw The Alcatel OT918N is popularly known as Idea 3G Smartfone Id918 in India!!!
Apple product do this already. When visiting client offices I had to connected my computer to the hotspot regularly because no one knew the password to the wifi. Really seems like a no-brainer, but apparently Google missed the obvious.
Try NetShare - no-root-tethering on the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik
Haha, I also had this thought back in 2011 when I bought my SGSII.
I had tried before and it doesn't work.
I am not sure with other devices, but for SGSII, the answer is "No".
Best regard
Aren't we all glad this is now possible... Like with the OnePlus8 Pro

[Q] Wifi sharing via wifi on Android

Hi all,
I know the thread's title may sound ridiculous, but it's really not.
I'm looking for a way to share my mobile wifi connection (I'm currently using the latest HTC one device) via wifi.
Meaning, I'm connected to a wifi network from my Android device, and I want to share this connection with other laptop/pad/mobile devices via wifi.
So my device acts both as wifi client to a hot-spot infra, and also like a hotspot infra for other devices.
In the past, I did it successfully using my iphone and MyWi app.
I've spent quite some time goggling for a solution, but non of the threads/articles I've read really address this problem, as most of them refer to sharing the mobile data connection rather than the wifi connection.
this is the closest thread I've found (from 2010) and it refers to wifi sharing via USB and not wifi.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276723
the reason I'm looking for such a way is that I have a iPass certificate on my mobile, which enables me to connect freely to iPass wifi hotspots around the world (popular at airports for example) and I want to use this connection with my laptop or my friends mobile devices.
can anyone shed some light on this subject?

WiFi or Bluetooth hotspot?

I have an un rooted n9 (wifi only), and im trying to bridge an authenticated wifi network to a hotspot using my phone and tab. Seems the n9 doesnt support wifi hotspot, or sharing its own data connection - did i miss anything?
tshoulihane said:
I have an un rooted n9 (wifi only), and im trying to bridge an authenticated wifi network to a hotspot using my phone and tab. Seems the n9 doesnt support wifi hotspot, or sharing its own data connection - did i miss anything?
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I used phone Hotspot to set mine up in Best Buy parking lot. Not sure what you are trying to do.
Im trying to connect one device to the other (works bluetooth phone -> tab) and then connect a 3rd device to the wifi hotspot on the 2nd. I can do this with 2 phones, but need the nexus 9 to share its internet connection for this to work.
if I understand, you are attempting to daisy chain devices, won't happen unless your tablet and phone has 2 WiFi radios, haven't heard of any standard non specialty devices like that. you can either be host, or receiver, not both. you can only try to use phone to Bluetooth tether, and maybe chain them like that somehow. I haven't tried it myself.
you can see if your device will recognize a WiFi USB attached to a host cable.. just an idea..
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I would create a wireless hotspot with my Nexus 9 but it looks all the tethering options are missing. Maybe because it lacks the LTE modem. This is quite stupid: I can get the connection from a bluetooth/usb connection.
Is anyone having issues getting the Bluetooth connection to hold? I can pair the devices but they disconnect as soon as they connect. I've tried clearing the Bluetooth sharing on both my phone and the nexus 9 but still nothing. :S
N9 running lollipopalooza and lg g2 on aicp lollipop.

Why won't WiFi hotspot feature work in a more logical fashion?

Specifically, why is it that some features which only like to work over Wi-Fi, such as screen mirroring from my phone to my PC, will not use the Wi-Fi hotspot connection from the same device? I noticed similar issues trying to set up a Chromecast without a router. I do not have home internet, only my phone. It seems to me that the programming for something like this should be incredibly easy. Have the hotspot treated as a Wi-Fi network with an API, so apps that specifically need to use a Wi-Fi connection can just use that. Why wouldn't this work?

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