Sorry for this basic question but I plan to move from windows mobile iPAQ to Archos 101.
I have a very simple phone Nokia 3120 classic which has bluetooth and 3G. When I needed to browse I just connected my iPAQ to phone via bluetooth, dialled something like *xyz*# and that was it, I was on line.
Is this tethering discussed here similar? What is the difference and why is it so complicated taht so many phones fail to tether?
Thanks for your answers.
The process of sharing the internet from your phone to another device like what you are doing is known as tethering. In your case you're making your phone appear as a dial up modem.
In Archos' case, you have some options. I don't know, but I don't believe you can tether an archos to your phone like that. I could be wrong.
As for why some phones fail to tether, it could be a couple of reasons. The most common one is that the phone is putting out an Ad-Hoc wifi signal. All android devices cannot pick up Ad-Hoc (peer2peer) signals, only Infrastructure (Access Points, Routers). There is another option for Bluetooth tethering, which I've gotten to work off my Motorola Droid, but other phones have some issues. I believe its a matter of what bluetooth capabilities the phone has (bluetooth specs similar to things like wireless audio transmitting).
I hope I cleared somethings up
Yes, your old method was basically using the phone like a modem. The tethering mentioned for android, is sharing of the internet connection the phone has.
Smartphones (and many feature phones) have an always on internet connection. It is like a broadband connection, always on and connected. Tethering basically turns your phone into a router, sharing the same connection to the internet with other devices.
The differences in WiFi and bluetooth capabilities is a concern for tethering between devices, so some people have trouble getting it to work.
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I don't think so. This sort of negates the purpose of the hotspot function. If you have a wifi connection on your phone, then that same wifi connection is available to other devices. If this is the case, why do you need ANOTHER hotspot? Besides, I think the hotspot needs the wifi radio to serve up the hotspot. I'm not sure, but I don't think it can do that and connect to another wifi connection at the same time.
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
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This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
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I don't think you understand what I've said.
I'm not certain any software hack would do this. I'm pretty sure you would need two wifi radios to do this. One to receive/transmit to/from whatever hotspot your phone is connected to, and one to receive/transmit as the active hotspot of the phone. There is only one wifi radio in the phone, so.... ?
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?
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Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I think you are misunderstanding between android wifi cards and PC cards.PC wifi cards can do this work while mobile phones does not because they simply don't have the same hardware.Windows vista/7/8 for example can create hotspot and connect to another network at the same time without problems but mobile phones (not a problem with Android OS) cannot.
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The point is, tethering does not use antenna. In other word we just want to use android device as wifi router while mobile data is not available and our PC don't have wifi antenna
The problem is tethering need to enable with wifi hotspot and it then disable wifi even the tethering does not use antenna. Understand situation now? I think this is more like a bug
Another problem I face is. I want to use my android phone as wifi hotspot. But then I want to use ES file explorer to browse into target device. And It can't find any device while I am being the hotspot myself. I should able to see all device connect to me as I'm the server but I can't. Because when I'm being wifi hotspot I need to disconnect myself from lan network and that's suck
Hotspot and Wi-Fi at the same time
I'll tell you what problems it would solve for my fiance and myself... We live in an area that is rural and surrounded by reservation land. There is no way to get internet here except through our mobile hotspots via our phone provider and the tower less than a mile away. We also use Chromecast and a canon pixma cloud ready printer, however, in order to connect to them, we must turn on our hotspots, yet the printer and chromecast force the Wi-Fi to come on when trying to connect, which then
I'm not certain any software hathen automatically turns the hotspots off, and visa~versa. If allowed to have both on at the same time, connection would be optimal. I've found a way to trick chromecast, but I have to be quick, however, I still cannot connect to the printer. Rather than having every product company change how the connection works, it would be much easier for the two functions to work together if we want them to, without one shutting the other down. That's an example of a problem it would solve.
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hotspot &wifi simultaneously.
I have the same situation. Do not want to buy yet another device to be able to use chromecast, or any other devices that require both internet access and WiFi! My internet access is my hotspot! Any new info on this? I am rural as well, no cable etc, and my satellite provider has no service even "way out here!" Ha ha
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Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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This is possible on windows OS with wifi adapter of inbuild device.. but dont know how to accomplish the same on android
Got the Solution Guys!
I suggest you to Use Alcatel OT918N
It must be rooted and having a Custom Rom
(Usually so Easy)
And Then Enjoy a Normal Wifi and A Hotspot At the same Time!!!
Enjoy!!!
Btw The Alcatel OT918N is popularly known as Idea 3G Smartfone Id918 in India!!!
Apple product do this already. When visiting client offices I had to connected my computer to the hotspot regularly because no one knew the password to the wifi. Really seems like a no-brainer, but apparently Google missed the obvious.
Try NetShare - no-root-tethering on the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik
Haha, I also had this thought back in 2011 when I bought my SGSII.
I had tried before and it doesn't work.
I am not sure with other devices, but for SGSII, the answer is "No".
Best regard
Aren't we all glad this is now possible... Like with the OnePlus8 Pro
I want to host an INFRASTRUCTURE (not AD-HOC), otherwise known as a SoftAP (Access point) on wifi. This is possible with many applications, but they all want to use a mobile data connection. Is there any application that allows you to host a SoftAP WITHOUT a 2G/3G/4G connection? This is just for playing over WIFI between a samsung galaxy s3 and an older android 2.1 tablet. These cannot see AdHoc networks.
Anyways, I'm interested in any application that allows hosting of an infrastructure WiFi network without tethering to just host a wireless lan point.
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I am also very interested in a solution/app like this.
A photo app (MoPhotos) will work with my EyeFi WiFi card to transfer photos from the card in my camera to my computer/Android device via Wifi.
Currently, the card has to go through the home router as that what it looks for to give it a IP Address and network to connect to the computer/Android.
If there is a way for the Android device to be a Wifi HotSpot without the mobile tethering, I can configure the card to talk directly to the Android, which would be *very* helpful when out and about.
I just bought a chromecast and I'm trying to figure out if I can get my GNexus to host the hotspot and be the chromecast remote.
In more detail:
I do not have internet from a cable/satellite company. The only internet connection I have is through my cellphone hotspot.
Chromecast will be connected to the internet through my cellphone hotspot (SSID: AndroidAP).
When my cellphone has the hotspot running it does not show up on its own network (AndroidAP).
I need the phone to show up on the network (AndroidAP) so that I can see the chromcast and use the phone as a remote.
Is this even possible?
Really? No one?
Is it possible?
I'd be very curious to know if this is possible or not. I found this thread because I'm wanting to do the very same thing. I still have unlimited data through vzw so this would be terrific if there was a way. The only thing is that the wifi turns off when the hotspot is turned on (at least on mine) so there would have to be a way to get it to connect to its own hotspot without making mobile data shut off.
Same thing needed Badly here @@
I also want to connect my moto e to it's own hotspot for remote control my tablet using my phone as mouse(specifically) and keyboard/joystick.
(I know keyboard and joystick can be possible without doing that but MOUSE can't)
Hellllllllpppppppp ......
1.5 years later and there's still no way to do this. Not only that this is the only page on the internet about it.
The de thread here
I want to use my phone WiFi network to connect my PC to it and then use the phone to remotly control keyboard and mouse on my PC over WiFi, but I just can not connect my phone to it's own WiFi network. :/
One thing I could do is using a WiFi extender to connect both devices to, but then I couln't get the devices connected to internet since they're connected to a "no-internet" WiFi extender network.
Still nothing? I need it to use my security camera which needs internet connection. I also need to be able to view it on my phone using the camera app but the devices have to be on the same network. Sux that i can't do this.
This may seem like a dumb question but... is there a way or an app to essentially turn on WiFi hotspot feature so that I can make an ad-hoc LAN but NOT let all the devices connected access the internet?
Example: I enable WiFi hotspot on my phone. I still have a cellular data connection so I can browse the web, stream music, etc. but any other device that connect to my phone's hotspot does NOT get my data connection, they are just on the LAN the built in android hotspot creates.
I don't want to let other users "run up" my data usage but I want the other users when they connect to my hotspot to be all on one network.
I have a bootloader unlocked Motorola Moto X (original, 2013) and rooted and I use Tasker. Maybe after I enable the hotspot feature I could modify some IP tables via a Tasker app to "enable/disable" internet blocking.
Or maybe there's an app out there for this? I suppose another alternative would be disable mobile data and then enable hotspot (if that's even allowed) but the pitfall there is then my phone doesn't have internet either.
Thanks,
Mike