Hi.
Amobil.no a Norwegian mobile-newssite realesed a lot of the specs for the upcomming HTC tablet, HTC Flyer, yesterday.
I won't write the whole article, but here are the specs known today:
HTC Flyer
Form: Tablet
Technologies: HSPA - speeds up to 14,4 / 5,76 Mbps, DLNA
Camera: 1,3 megapixels secondary, 5 megapixels primary
Communication: Skype pre-installed video conferencing
CPU / Chipset: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
Storage/Memory: 4 GB ROM, 1 GB RAM
Skjerm: 7 inches, 1025 x 600 pixels, capasitive screen with stylus
Connectors: HDMI
Memory card: Unknown (presumed Micro-SD)
OS / User interface: Android 2.3 Gingerbread, HTC Sense adapted for tablets
Because I'm new here I can't post links to the news article...But if anyone could do it for me it would be grate
Here's the link: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/full_specs_of_htc_flyer_revealed/80837
And a new source confirmes HTC Flyer: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/new_source_confirms_htc_flyer/80880
Wow this looks pretty nice. More specs on the device would be nice. But I'm all for HTC devices.
Someone know's something about the price?
Pricing info
roar109 said:
Someone know's something about the price?
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price info link "Amazon Germany has revealed a 670 Euro price point – that’s just over USD $900."
Very nice device!
Any comparisons with Xoom?
The Xoom ( for purity ) or this seem like the only ones I am interested in... all depends on price though.
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I like the tablet and inovation htc has put into the software and hardware but the battery life is only 4 hours of video playback compared to other tablets like galaxy tab which is also 7 inch which is 6 hours and the bigger xoom and a lot of others which are 8-10+. That has really let it down for me =[. My bet the problem is the the processer is a hungry one for battery not like Tegra 2 and other types.
I can used like mobile phone?
A Dutch webshop also added the flyer to there products for €699.
It's a reliable site, and they have a pretty good relation with HTC.
However there is some false (HDMI connection) and some premature (2.4 ice-cream) info so I wonder how accurate the price is.
Well the OS does look totally different. I know its sense but its completely different
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/overview.html
Scroll down to 3d fun at every turn. Given the processor I am really not gonna complain about battery life
TheGhost1233 said:
A Dutch webshop also added the flyer to there products for €699.
It's a reliable site, and they have a pretty good relation with HTC.
However there is some false (HDMI connection) and some premature (2.4 ice-cream) info so I wonder how accurate the price is.
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It would also be VERY important for HTC to commit to Honeycomb otherwise, there is no way I would spend that amount of money on something that could be obsolete so fast...
If HTC tablet could have the sound quality of Cowon products, I would be all over this thing...
I thought HTC were joking when they said they're realising a tablet without Honeycomb. And that ugly sense. I mean it looks good on the phones, but on the tablets.
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I think it's smart. The XOOM won't ship with flash because it's not ready for Honeycomb. Also, Honeycomb isn't designed for stylus input.
The version of the OS is not as important as the features and the experience IMO. If the experience is right, then I am gonna have one!
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I can used like mobile phone?
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Yes, you can. It has Quad Band.
See: http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
To follow up on the last post, does the Flyer do 3G on At&t? Thanks for the heads up on the voice option.
Does anyone think the price is a bit steep for a single core non-Honeycomb tablet as per previous postings?
I am looking to get a 7" tablet usable on At&t with 3g and voice in the next 3-4 months.
I ranked them as follows:
1. Acer A100
2. HTC Flyer
3. Viewpad 7.
What do you guys think?
footneek said:
To follow up on the last post, does the Flyer do 3G on At&t? Thanks for the heads up on the voice option.
Does anyone think the price is a bit steep for a single core non-Honeycomb tablet as per previous postings?
I am looking to get a 7" tablet usable on At&t with 3g and voice in the next 3-4 months.
I ranked them as follows:
1. Acer A100
2. HTC Flyer
3. Viewpad 7.
What do you guys think?
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Regarding 3G, i believe that will be there. But for AT&T that is another matter. The EU version will have it, but not sure what HTC is planning for AT&T 3G.
Regarding price, I have bought my devices from CLOVE; See: clove.co.uk/htc-flyer. Their price for HTC Flyer is GBP 466.
As far as final specs are concerned, I inquired from HTC about a HDMI output through the microusb and their response yesterday was.
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Dear g,
im afraid that we dont have any information on these devices yet, we are waiting for the devices to go to press before we can comment on them.
please keep checking the website for more information about these when we get it.
Sincerely,
Joseph
HTC
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I was a bit puzzeled by this response, as I was speaking with HTC not some marketer out in WoopWoop ! Go figure !
Final specs will be known soon.
I think there are a few other great tablets that will be out soon. Like the Motorola xoom. Some people are saying that the Flyer cpu 1.5Ghz although fast is not as good as the Tegra 2 chip......which many new tablets are incorporating and many are saying the same thing, although all agree that the os and software may not be up to speed to fully take advantage of the Tegra 2 chip, but still produces fabulous results.
But what I like about the HTC Flyer is two things. One is the forum here at xda-developers. There is nothing quite like it. Secondly, relating directly to the device is the stylus application. I have seen several good videos on youtube on its functionality and I really like it for the kind of things that I am involved in. So, it's a unique feature that no one else offers. I will personally find it very useful.
However I really like what some of the other tablet manufacturers are doing with having a full USB port on the device as well as a HDMI port.......that's cool.
globalgpj, thanks for the info. Like you, I don't usually buy a device unless it is supported by XDA with custom ROM. I currently have the G-Tab with the newest TNT Lite ROM. It is fast and I love it. Without voice or 3G, I have to bring my phone to tether which is a bummer. I'll wait until summer when all the devices hopefully will be announced or released. Thanks.
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I can used like mobile phone?
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Unfortunaltely it looks like this won't be possible.
I was looking for a replacement for my old X7510 - however without phone function - useless.
Dieter
can the htc flyer makes phone calls/ sms without internet . . sim card slot . .????
lookin forward to let go my hd2 for this flyer.
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I was wondering how many of you might be put off by the fact that the Flyer is shipping with Gingerbread and not Honeycomb - even though it will get Honeycomb later.
Appreciate the feedback.
I love the idea of the scribe technology, but considering how small it is and battery life....plus it is not shipping with Honeycomb and the price is going to be higher than comparable devices....
It's sad as I have owned only HTC phones. I love their quality.
The scribe technology I LOVE! I can see so many added benefits of this - especially in syncing with Evernote. I also see a benefit with those having children.
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I love the idea of the scribe technology,
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There were some internal docs from either bestbuy or costco that were reporting a 10.1" screen edition as well later in the summer.
I'd pay top dollar for Scribe + 10.1". There is a serious dearth of handwriting systems for android. Now if we could just get an OCR input system (e.g. Graffiti for the old Palm PDAs). I've seen a demo of scribe, and it doesn't look like it does input analog>digital, maybe I'm missing something. Still better than nothing.
There was also one more interesting quip about Android 3.0 in Eldar’s article. According to him, if a hardware partner releases the tablet on Android 2.x version of OS, as per licensing agreement for Android 3.0, they are not allowed to update Android 2.x tablets to 3.0 version.
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so if the news(rumors) are true, htc flyer won't be getting any honeycomb due to licensing issues?
source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/03/27/google-nexus-tablet-with-android-3-x-to-be-made-by-lg-android-2-x-tablets-wont-upgrade-to-3-0/
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so if the news(rumors) are true, htc flyer won't be getting any honeycomb due to licensing issues?
source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/03/27/google-nexus-tablet-with-android-3-x-to-be-made-by-lg-android-2-x-tablets-wont-upgrade-to-3-0/
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I'd say that is probably just a rumour. I've not heard it from any other source. The article at unwiredreview is the only article that author has written and his dubious source of information is a Russian website that he links to
Also this from a far more reliable source:
From @HTC
@Farhadinho Absolutely. We are committed to offering a Honeycomb upgrade as soon as possible after Flyer's release.
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Edit: Whether or not Google are restricting froyo-honeycomb upgrades, it seems the Flyer has got the green light:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-...r&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter_web
What's all the hype over Honeycomb? I mean, what features do you gain other than all the overhype of being "tablet optimized. "
From my experience with the Xoom, tablet optimized means crashes at will and won't run crap......
Tabbed on my Galaxy 987
swedishcancerboi said:
What's all the hype over Honeycomb? I mean, what features do you gain other than all the overhype of being "tablet optimized. "
From my experience with the Xoom, tablet optimized means crashes at will and won't run crap......
Tabbed on my Galaxy 987
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I agreee - I'd rather wait for a stable version.
The Xoom is a worst case scenario. Made by Motorola, released prematurely.
The main benefit I see from Honeycomb is apps which are designed to run on larger screens, instead or "over-inflated" phone apps
Great I can't wait, however....
I can't wait for this tablet to come to market. Ofcourse there will be things I do not like, one is the fact it is not a phone. It is a tablet, and I want a tablet also to be a phone. Since it has 3g enabled I think a phone application is not hard to install. Any ideas on this?
Was all for the flyer as I'm a massive HTC fan ,but just ordered the ASUS transformer as it suits my want for a tablet and the need for a net book for the kids and it has honeycomb already and has good reviews
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Won't be buying due to the fact that I already have a galaxy tab (Big Mistake!!) Although the design and ui of the flyer look good, along with the fact that htc are good with updates, and a lot of people I have talked too like the pen. Not sure about the onlive myself due to the fact that you have to use a onlive controller (what are you meant to do with the tablet if the controller is in both hands?)
http://twitter.com/htc/status/60125525049491456
From HTC's twitter, in response to my questions about the Flyer. They are saying it will get a Honeycomb update.
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Not sure about the onlive myself due to the fact that you have to use a onlive controller (what are you meant to do with the tablet if the controller is in both hands?)
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The idea is that you stream the game to your tv, so the flyer just replaces the normal onlive box that is sold, playing games on the flyer screen is also possible, but i agree that it sounds somewhat difficult :/ maybe they are going to sell some sort of case/stand like the Xoom and iPad have
but yes all the rumors suggest (from staples leaked sheets that a 10 and 8.9 inch honeycomb tablet from htc are coming this june, maybe thats when flyer will get update
id like to see what they do to sense considering there is that base bar on the honeycomb though
HTC Flyer (Evo View)
I'm disappointed in HTC's first tablet. Just the screen size is what disappoints me. Wondering why they dont add the 3D into it like the G-Slate has, after all they are coming out with a new EVO3d that i will be picking up once released!. Companies are struggling to separate themselves from everyone else when these android tablets are going to start looking identical, but HTC has their SenseUI and now Scribe which in my book gives them the edge! I'm just excited to see what happens with 3rd party firmware tweaking for performance to eliminate the possibility of skipping. MikFroyo and Fresh both have wonderful Firmwares that made my Evo many times better in terms of performance while clearing out the clutter
The LG tablet does not have a 3some screen, only 3d camera, a 3some screen of that size would add a lot of extra cost, it just wouldn't be worth it, but yes a bigger screen would have been a better choice by htc, but then again if you look at the first Android phones they made and compare them to what they have now....great things I predict to come
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Game over for me. I just cancelled my preorder since the release date is going to slip again. Im travelling early June and want to make sure I have something to travel with so I ordered the Galaxy Tab 10.1v which I can pick up in a week or so.
Im gutted really! I really wanted a 7" tablet and REALLY wanted a HTC. I will check back here and see what you guys think of it after release *sniff*
Hi Everyone,
I am excited as many of you are about the stylus/scribe feature that the HTC Flyer is coming out with, supposingly this month....according to Clove.co.uk.
According to seveal sites, mostly using the same info, HTC is releasing a 8.9 and 10 inch tablet, coming out this June 2011.
http://www.dkszone.net/htc-10-inch-touchpad-release-june
http://blog.gsmarena.com/an-unannou...-inch-samsung-tablet-come-alive-in-rumorland/
Apparently, they will have some updatetd hardware along with hopefully the stylus/scribe feature.....I am sure, since this is key to their tablet marketing strategy.
Although I like the idea of a 7" screen for portability, I won't shy away from a larger one, especially if it has some better hardware. i.e. ports, cpu, memory etc..
I really hope this is true!!
The flyer looks amazing but it could be so much more with bigger screen and such
I've also read somewhere that the other tablets will come with nvidia tegra
I hope they come out soon, I was going to get flyer, but these sound something to wait for
Is the pen input pretty precise on these models?
From what I've heard its really good
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Should edit the title: it's not 8.9", its 10" only.
The 8.9" is a Samsung.
Dual core finally!
10 inch is still fine with me !!
And yes the almighty dual core, nor just to ponder if they choose the same 1.2 in eve 3d/sensation, or they don't underclock it and leave it at 1.5 or NVIDIA tegra 2 either way it'll be beast
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And also, 3d features anyone?
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they definitely rushed th flyer out!
True, but in comparison most of the other tablets so far only have stock versions of Android at last we have a dam good version of sense
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Judging by the price of the 7' flyer, steve jobs and bill gates will be the only people able to afford it
If ur in the US don't complain its hfslf the price it is in Europe
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yea $500 does not seem terrible, and honestly sense will make this thing a beauty to use. I plan on trying this thing out for work, and hopefully getting the company to at least entertain the idea of using the note taking ability. I would like to see HTC offer the ability to turn off sense like you used to be able to do in winmo 6.1, would be nice to have the option for stock honeycomb when it happens. Also let's not forget this is an HTC device, i'm sure this thing will be rootable/hackable to no end!
And for the record, i hope they just stop with the whole 3d bs, hope that tech never catches on
Ye, I plan on using mine for school, taking notes in my classes, should be perfect, its well worth it for me,
P.s. is there any information available on where HTC watch will be available? Cos itunes and others don't sell or rent movies in Norway was wondering if HTC have the rights to do so, seeing as is advertised on website like all other countries :/
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Should edit the title: it's not 8.9", its 10" only.
The 8.9" is a Samsung.
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Just updated the title, thanks.
I am more happy anyway with a 10" anyway.
I certainly hope HTC keeps the stylus feature in this larger tablet. That would be perfect for my requirements.
Well.....June is just around the corner.......looks like summer is going to be a great Android Tablet month.
Here's something from The Tech Journal, May 6th 2011........it has a picture of the 10" tablet. Real or not ???
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/tablet/htc-android-tablet.xhtml
HTC need to release more 5-9 inches tablets, 10 is too much for mobile use..
I thought I read somewhere that Pegatron is also one of the iPad 2 manufacturers along with Foxconn... Not good news if HTC is going with them. Just look at all the supply problem Asus is having with its Transformer.
I heard that price will be ~799+$
Official announcement will come out once the Flyer is released. I can't wait for this, but I have a feeling it won't be out in June. Maybe later imo.
I want a 10"
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I really hope this is true!!
The flyer looks amazing but it could be so much more with bigger screen and such
I've also read somewhere that the other tablets will come with nvidia tegra
I hope they come out soon, I was going to get flyer, but these sound something to wait for
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I highly doubt HTC will push out an nvidia chip - mostly they have an agreement with Qualcomm for a start if I am not mistaken.
That's why when everyone was announcing dual core phones they pushed out a single core Desire S/Incredible S...
Then they fly in with the HTC Sensation with dual core to rival the Galaxy S II.
I have a Xoom at home Wifi 10" is great for home use - 7" seems a good size for out and about (aside from a phone) - so I'd be interested to see what the 10" are like to get a second tablet at home...
i was just wondering, do you think the Jetstream will get ICS?
HTC announced the other day of the first wave of devices that will get it..the Jetstream wasn't on that list. i know not all hope is lost, but i fear they won't update it. and it needs to be updated, the 3.1 is simply the worst.
so, what do you think?
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i'm writing every couple of days on the HTC facebook wall about that, hoping to get some attention..
i think it'll be good if others will do the same.
I have no doubt we will get it. HTC is one of the manufacturers that promised to support android updates for 18 months after a product is released.
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I would be quite surprised and disappointed if the Jetstream wasn't one of the first devices to see ICS. System wide stylus support and better media and social integration would seem to me to align quite well with HTC's goals to have a stand-out device. In it's current configuration the Jetstream just seems eccentric and inefficient. Some of the best hardware being smothered by its software. The removal of h.264 support, the rather ho hum browser and mail apps and lack of quality applications to take advantage of scribe (notes and PDFviewer are rather miserable,) really hamper what could be a stand-out device (in a way other than price.) Here's to hoping some ice cream sandwiches are sufficient to reverse this hypoglycemic techno shock.
that's exactly what i was thinking!
honeycomb 3.1 is the worse android version out there.
and you can actually feel the device suffering with it.
i'm affraid htc won't bother to update it because they only have a couple of tablets, both of them are not best sellers...
i'd be less anxious about it if we had a root access or at least an unlocked bootloader. but htc are taking their sweet time with that as well.
i hope i'm mistaking..
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honeycomb 3.1 is the worse android version out there.
and you can actually feel the device suffering with it.
i'm affraid htc won't bother to update it because they only have a couple of tablets, both of them are not best sellers...
i'd be less anxious about it if we had a root access or at least an unlocked bootloader. but htc are taking their sweet time with that as well.
i hope i'm mistaking..
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Couldn't agree more. It seems like the few of us that bought this device are going to be stuck with what it shipped with - no dev support and no HTC support. Hope I'm wrong too...
As someone who is on the fence about buying this device, the lack of support concerns me. Of course we could all be wrong and htc will support it.
It's unfortunate htc gave this device to AT&T. Can AT&T be charged with tablet-slaughter? I don't think there is a device on the market that compares and won't until sometime after February 2012, at least from an artist's perspective. So I could wait six months or just get one. There will always be a new device coming and if I keep waiting I may never get anything.
Here's hoping htc supports the Jetstream.
the weirdest thing
is that even the bounty got no response.
personally i can't spare the money (espcially after purchasing the Jetstream itself), but 550$ for cracking it, and no takers? i'm worried.
if your not an owner - don't get one.
that's my opinion.
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is that even the bounty got no response.
personally i can't spare the money (espcially after purchasing the Jetstream itself), but 550$ for cracking it, and no takers? i'm worried.
if your not an owner - don't get one.
that's my opinion.
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The thing is I don't plan to root the device. I just want it for sketchbook pro, photoshop touch and general web browsing.
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The thing is I don't plan to root the device. I just want it for sketchbook pro, photoshop touch and general web browsing.
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Then you will love it. I have no doubt. Haven't worked with PS touch, but sketchbook pro is amazing on the jetstream with the stylus..
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The Jetstream has all the makings of an orphan. It's only been released (via the carriers) in the U.S. and Canada. I'd guess total sales to be below 50K units total. There was never a Wi-Fi version released and it was never offered through retail channels - the exact opposite of the Flyer. HTC's already announced the quad-core Quattro 10.1 tablet for Q1 2012 in both 3G and Wi-Fi versions. Also, AT&T's just started selling an LTE G-Tab 8.9 with the same processor that's in the Jetstream for a lot less money. They're also throwing in a free Skyrocket as part of the launch which certainly is more aggresive than a free Scribe pen. I think the Jetstream's days are numbered and if it does get ICS its low volume certainly wouldn't put it at the top of HTC's list.
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The Jetstream has all the makings of an orphan. It's only been released (via the carriers) in the U.S. and Canada. I'd guess total sales to be below 50K units total. There was never a Wi-Fi version released and it was never offered through retail channels - the exact opposite of the Flyer. HTC's already announced the quad-core Quattro 10.1 tablet for Q1 2012 in both 3G and Wi-Fi versions. Also, AT&T's just started selling an LTE G-Tab 8.9 with the same processor that's in the Jetstream for a lot less money. They're also throwing in a free Skyrocket as part of the launch which certainly is more aggresive than a free Scribe pen. I think the Jetstream's days are numbered and if it does get ICS its low volume certainly wouldn't put it at the top of HTC's list.
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i'm not sure they can abandon it alltogether. i have no hope from at&t mainly because i don't live in the USA.
HTC must support it in one way or another...i just hope that it won't end in a 3.2 version in 6 monthes from now.
it s-o expensive, and to have spent so much money and be ignored pisses me off.
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i have no hope from at&t mainly because i don't live in the USA.
HTC must support it in one way or another...i just hope that it won't end in a 3.2 version in 6 monthes from now.
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Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Jetstream had a 6 month or so exclusivity agreement with the carriers prior to being able to be launched through any other channels.... Not sure what will change but we shall see.
BarryH_GEG said:
Because it was never sold retail, any updates will only be made available by and through the carriers not HTC directly. As for ICS, I'd guess it depends how much of the work on the Quattro can be easilly ported to the Jetstream and how willing AT&T is to accept the training and documentation liability when so few units were sold.
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This concerns me about the Jetstream. I really wish there were a way for the consumer to be protected for some amount of time. I just bought one and I like it pretty well. It's decently fast, but so far I think I like my HTC Flyer better!
At least I have 2 weeks if I want to return it. I'm not happy about all the "bloatware" that's included in the device. I wish there were a way to do an "HTC" only install of Honeycomb without all the AT&T junk.
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At least I have 2 weeks if I want to return it.
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I'd return it. If you're OK with Wi-Fi only, I'd wait a month or two as Asus, Lenovo, and Acer have already announced quad-core tablets the latter two come with 2MB of RAM and 1900x1200 displays. If you want a carrier tablet, I'd get the LTE G-Tab 8.9 that launched today. It's got the same processor as the Jetstream, costs a lot less, has a great dev community, is confirmed to get ICS, has a bunch of available accessories, and will have better resale value if you want to sell it. AT&T's running a promotion starting today that offers a free Skyrocket with purchase. I'm using a UK G-Tab 10.1 3G that I bought after I returned my Jetstream and I like it a lot.
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I'd return it. If you're OK with Wi-Fi only, I'd wait a month or two as Asus, Lenovo, and Acer have already announced quad-core tablets the latter two come with 2MB of RAM and 1900x1200 displays. If you want a carrier tablet, I'd get the LTE G-Tab 8.9 that launched today. It's got the same processor as the Jetstream, costs a lot less, has a great dev community, is confirmed to get ICS, has a bunch of available accessories, and will have better resale value if you want to sell it. AT&T's running a promotion starting today that offers a free Skyrocket with purchase. I'm using a UK G-Tab 10.1 3G that I bought after I returned my Jetstream and I like it a lot.
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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that's what i thought. i really wanted an electronic notebook to help me with my studies.
so i took the jetstream for the same reason.
the built-in apps for pen are pretty worthless.
you would probably use an external app that would also run on any other tablet. you should try playing with a simpler tablet using a stylus pen (there are some generic kinds. with fatter tips, but far cheaper) and see how that works for you.
also, you can check out the lenovo thinkpad.
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/thinkpad/
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The bigggest thing for me, is there aren't other tablets that have the active digitizer. That's really why I got the Jetstream. Sure there are more tablets coming, but I don't think they will be really good until we get Windows 8 and wacom active digitizer, but that's a year away. I need a portable sketching machine for a year. This is the best there is unfortunately. Am I missing something? Is there something better with an active digitizer?
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The Flyer and Jetstream are the only two tablets even half way decent at pen entry. The Galaxy Note actually has a Wacom digitizer and is excellent for drawing and note taking but I'm guessing it's too small for your needs. ICS is supposed to support pen entry natively but we'll have to see how good it ends up being.
Thanks for the suggestion of the Lenovo thinkpad tablet. I was actually trying to choose between that device and the Jetstream. I chose the Jetstream because I felt like their quality was higher. There have been tons of reports of bad thinkpad tablets.
Galaxy Note was on my list for a new phone, but I think it's too small for what I want. I have some days to return the Jetstream so I will continue to try it out. Also, I noticed there has been a price drop at AT&T to $749 plus a $50 gift card rebate.
I still think maybe AT&T butchered this tablet with sloppy apps and tasks. It's not as fast as it should be. My HTC Flyer seems more responsive.
once we have root and S-OFF, I think this tablet will be the best
We all have flyers and we love them. I have this question. If you root your flyer and then upgrade the os to ICS, jelly bean and beyond. What would it take for you to want to replace it? What would htc have to do in terms of hardware upgrades, besides the obvious one of putting a multi core processor,or maybe adding gorilla glass to make you pull the trigger on the next one? The prospect of a 7" ipad has me intrigued, but even with that I wonder what I would do with my flyer besides make it an alarm clock and then all the apps i would put it , i am back to wanting to carry it with me again. And that has me seriously considering getting another flyer in case I screw the first one up, trying to root it
The next round of tablets will have at least double the screen resolution of the current, so I would probably move to the larger 10" +, except, see my signature below to find out why I probably won't be interested in future tablets even with faster hardware and better screens.
7-8" screen, internal GPS, $200-300 price point and has support longer than launch day. That's all I look for.
Samsung Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S not getting ICS due to Touchwiz bloat.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/23/2657132/samsung-no-ics-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab
LOL
same excuse as HTC.............
it'd take a lot for me to go above a 7" tablet...i had a 10" and it was simply way too big
thinner and lighter would have me salivating for an upgrade, though i don't yet feel the need to update my tablet as often as my phone...so it may be the next iteration for me, not the ones directly coming up
actually, there are so many things i DON'T need in a tablet that i'd probably be happy with one of the $100 ebay ripoffs, but i'm too much of a consumer to have one...lol
Im still for the most part very happy with my flyer. esp with the advent of custom roms and oc/uv has made this thing just a treat to play around with. I'm also very happy with it's size.. not too huge. not too small... just right
that said. i've def drooled over the htc jetstream. what bothers me is i can't find it in wifi only anywhere and att is the only one selling them that i could find... but alas.. it's only a dual core...
i think i'll wait and go striaght from single core to quad core for my next tablet. i have been keeping my eye on ASUS recently the prime is cool but came out with a lot of bugs. i was also watching the MEMO 370t quad core 7 inch tab thats supposed to be priced around 250.. u get the same 8mp cam as on the prmie.. but no front facing cam.. and that might be a deal breaker for me as i spend a lot of time on skype with friends and family.
so ... my next flyer would idealy be a quad core dual camera wifi gps THE WERKS!
prolly Q3 or Q4 this year is when i'll be really trying compare whats available and whats up and comming and start planning on getting a new tab.
i already have too many devices to play with lol
2x win mobile phones 2x android phones 1x windows phone 2x android tablets 1x iPad 1x iPhone4s
i wanna start doing video reviews so they start sending me free stuff to review ... *dream job
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I think I'll just see what's available when my contract is up in 2013. I've dropped mine a few times so it has some scuffs.
Hardware I'd like a LED flash for the camera. I'm okay with the 5MP camera, but wouldn't mind a 8MP with full HD recording. That being said, HDMI out is a must. Higher screen resolution would be good too. I think the 1024x600 res can be upgraded. Also seeing how the new iPad has Bluetooth 4.0, that would be nice too. & a better standard pouch. The current one is pathetic.
But I'm not attached to my Flyer at the hip. I'd like another HTC, but if they don't have a new 7" tab soon, I'll have to shop somewhere else....
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This.........
Nokia to release a 10" Windows 8 tablet with dual-core Snapdragon S4 in Q4
I know, blasphemous. But I need more productivity.
@ Digital MD... get a pogoplug... you can stream your own stuff to any device you have
@n7 of 9... do you miss the extra screen real estate of the 10" tablet? I was seriously considering getting a jet stream... cause I wanted another toy... and for the extra screen real estate
For Android tablets, I prefer 7-8". Easier to carry around and easier to hold for reading. My 10" tablet is a Windows 7 tablet and I will probably gets Windows 8 tablet end of the year. Yes... more blasphemy.
Edit: right now it would take a lot for me to get rid of my View. I am on stock HC and love the pen interface. I will probably always get the latest and greatest Archos tablet, but right now the View is the one I always carry with me. I also have the data plan for it which is very convenient.
Bluetooth 4.0 would be great.
A better way to output HDMI (The MHL stuff is just added bulk and works intermittently for me).
7 or 8 inch
better resolution
better gpu
continued scribe support/more apps that take advantage of it
less bezel, more screen real estate
built in kickstand?
vilasman said:
We all have flyers and we love them. I have this question. If you root your flyer and then upgrade the os to ICS, jelly bean and beyond. What would it take for you to want to replace it? What would htc have to do in terms of hardware upgrades, besides the obvious one of putting a multi core processor,or maybe adding gorilla glass to make you pull the trigger on the next one? The prospect of a 7" ipad has me intrigued, but even with that I wonder what I would do with my flyer besides make it an alarm clock and then all the apps i would put it , i am back to wanting to carry it with me again. And that has me seriously considering getting another flyer in case I screw the first one up, trying to root it
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They would have to break into my house and fill my current flyer with holes. My girlfriend is looking for a flyer now even. The flyer runs amazingly regardless of the specs so I have no reason to want anything new. No tablets I've played with yet, impressed me the way the flyer did.
for a tablet, and for my personal useage patterns my Flyer is all I need
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for a tablet, and for my personal useage patterns my Flyer is all I need
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Being totally realistic here.. if the flyer or the tf101 don't suit your tablet needs nothing in the tablet world does.
vilasman said:
We all have flyers and we love them. I have this question. If you root your flyer and then upgrade the os to ICS, jelly bean and beyond. What would it take for you to want to replace it? What would htc have to do in terms of hardware upgrades, besides the obvious one of putting a multi core processor,or maybe adding gorilla glass to make you pull the trigger on the next one?
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So far, nothing. The only reason, right now, that I would want to replace my Flyer is because something I did to the Flyer (eg: break it somehow...) I don't want anything larger than 7", I love the pen, and I have no complaints about battery life, screen or OS stability. My previous 7" tablet (cheap Chinese variety) really was a test (to see if 7" would work) and from day one after buying it, I have been on the lookout for a better quality 7" (which took almost 1 1/2 years to come!). Since I've gotten my Flyer, I've not even looked at different tablets...
Not another HTC hardware!
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Not another HTC hardware!
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i'm the opposite...i have zero wish for anything other than HTC devices...every time i've veered i've regretted it
n7of9 said:
i'm the opposite...i have zero wish for anything other than HTC devices...every time i've veered i've regretted it
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I like my samsung captivate.. incredibly flexible when it comes to romming.
I want htc hardware in a phone, the problem is that if I'm going to use a protective case anyway, it defeats the purpose of that high quality metal feeling phone..
I have 3 Tablets:
HTC EVO VIEW 4G (WiFi Only)
WiFi Xoom (GED with ICS)
BlackBerry Playbook (With OS 2.0)
They're all really nice tablets. If you are looking for another nice 7" Tablet then the Playbook is Great for the price ($199). Awesome screen, 1080p Video Recording, HDMI Out, Bluetooth and the OS (QNX) is head & shoulders above IOS & Android. Playbook is really smooth and the Browser is the best Tablet Browser out there (there is only 1 Browser out there that tops it in tests and that is Chrome for Desktops). Apps are coming along.
The sub -$199 Google Nexus tablet.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...-its-cheap-MeMo-tablet-project-for-it_id28153
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/htc-tablets-fade-us-market-firm-keeps-options-open/2012-10-09
Personaly what could of saved them were critical updates.
Nice to hear it
my htc
A somewhat misleading article. HTC only started selling the Flyer for $299.00 when the company dropped the price to move unsold inventory. At that point I believe the tablets sold rather well. I'm pretty sure HTC couldn't sell the Flyer for $299 and turn a profit. And that's pretty much why HTC has to leave the tablet market. Apple is the only manufacturer that can create consumer interest in a premium tablet, and HTC has never been a value hardware manufacturer. I suspect they don't have the resrouces to muster the necessary economies of scale.
I love my Flyer. It's a top notch device and it's carried me this far. But HTC probably needs to concentrate on phones for the time being, and wait for third parties to prove that there's a viable tablet market for non-Apple products.
Htc needs one phone and one tablet and that is all! So far the phone is close.
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HTC's statements capsize the rumors of a new 10" tablet coming anytime soon. But aside from that, there doesn't seem to be any real "news" here. It says they have discontinued tablet sales in the US. Were there any tablets that were still being sold? The Best Buy Flyer was discontinued a long time ago. If the View and Jetstream were still being sold anytime recently, and now being discontinued, it just seems the logical end-of-life for those products. They have been superceded by higher spec devices, and probably haven't been sold in any significant numbers of some time now
5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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5", HTC tablet just announced for Japan market early December release. Quad core. 2GB of ram. Full hd screen. Tiny battery tho. Esp compared to the note 2. The note 2 is honestly what might replace my flyer next. If not then I'll hold out for next ten inch tab with super stylus 2GB ram and all that. But thia HTC phablet supposed to have a 440ppi screen
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That's a phone
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That's a phone
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Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
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Some folks are using the word "phablet" for a device that is a big phone, or a small tablet. Some form factors (like the Galaxy Note, and the Dell Streak before it) are starting to blur the lines a bit.
But yeah, the Butterfly J is being touted as a phone, as far as I've read.
I use both a phone (One X) and a tablet (Flyer), and I'd never give up my Flyer for a 5 inch device, or anything much smaller than 7" for that matter. I'd carry a 5" device in my pocket as phone, yes possibly. But for relaxing at home, or on a plane, 7" is likely as small as I'd ever go.
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same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
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same here, using from DHD to One X, along with my flyer.
wish the support was better, i mwean i wish there was any support from HTC.
I still think HTC will come with a tablet since they seeing how other companies make money of it they wanna jump on too.
Like HTC didnt think it is neccesary to make a phone bigger than 4,7" (One X) now they com with a 5" phone/phablet?
Same will happen with tablets, dont think they will leave the tablet game.
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I think it will be same sheat like flyer - only year of support for that tablet and then they will release new one.
found a cheap option to buy HTC flyer - is it worthwhile?
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't buy a wifi-only model. I bought mine because it is also a GSM phone, and that will make me hard-pressed to sell my Flyer. Even though I've since acquired an A500, my Flyer is my day to day tablet because it fits in my back pocket.
If you can find the GSM-unlocked model and the price is right, I'd go for that.
warwickw75 said:
laptopsdirect.co.uk/HTC_Flyer_Tablet_Android_-_16_GB_-_7_Wifi_Only__99HMK053-00/version.asp[/url]
is this still worth buying seeing as it has been discontinued?
is it essential to update to latest Android OS?
thanks
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I wouldn't, seeing as the hardware is well over a year old, and there are better spec'ed devices at this point. How much is the Nexus 7 in the UK? Google appears to be preparing for an update to the N7, also. The 8 GB version was recently removed from the Play Market, which is presumably in preparation for a new 32 GB version (maybe with other hardware updates?).
I use mine on a day basis, the hardware in my opinion still performs as needed. Unfortunately an official update will not happen beyond Honeycomb, there are how ever some decent custom Roms. My EVO view is overclocked on stock HC, and runs great. I would still say get a newer one just because the value of the new hardware and OS makes the updated models worth buying. My picks for tablet upgrades are Asus transformer infinity/prime (both these models are great.) Nexus 7. Both choices are worth the price IMO.
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"A great learning experience"
Thanks for posting this. Absurd quote from HTC's "global online communications manager":
"It was a great learning experience for us, and they definitely met expectations."
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A "learning experience"? What is this, high school? And whose expectations? Not mine. I had to send my Flyer in four times during the warranty period, the result of bad parts and shoddy workmanship. And after that, HTC refused to replace their faulty tablet. After the warranty expired, the charging jack failed. HTC said they would fix it, for a price. Just before I sent payment, I called to confirm and was told that they didn't have that simple part anymore because the tablet had been discontinued. They then returned my now-HTC Brick, and no one from HTC has ever responded to subsequent emails I have sent.
So no tears over HTC leaving the tablet business. No tears if they go out of business altogether, or if their CEO spontaneously combusts during a public appearance. Over a 2-3 year period, my Asus TF-101 has worked perfectly, but my HTC Flyer's a brick now, thanks to HTC's lack of foresight and lack of concern for their customers - or even for keeping their customers. Pathetic people, pathetic company.
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why is HTC doing this their tablets are AWESOME