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So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix, wouldn't it be possible to make a stock Android 2.2 ROM?
Your post makes no sense. First of all, we can't make stock ROMs and don't have any for the Atrix, or at least not yet. And second, this phone already has 2.2, so even if we had a stock ROM for the Atrix, it already would be 2.2.
BravoMotorola said:
Your post makes no sense. First of all, we can't make stock ROMs and don't have any for the Atrix, or at least not yet. And second, this phone already has 2.2, so even if we had a stock ROM for the Atrix, it already would be 2.2.
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You clearly don't know anything about Android. First off, the Atrix doesn't have a Stock Android 2.2 ROM.... its running MotoBlur. Stock Android is just plain Android without the skin. Just like it was on the Nexus One.
And there is already one ROM.
Now, before you post some more stupid sh*t. Think.
http://source.android.com/ feel free to get started
thunderpack said:
http://source.android.com/ feel free to get started
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Hahaha i dont know how i didnt find this!, THANK YOU!
Didn't someone make a ROM already? I know that one isn't stock but I'm guessing we are on the right track.
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Didn't someone make a ROM already? I know that one isn't stock but I'm guessing we are on the right track.
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Yeah: Adeo v0.1 ROM
With that being made its suppose to be possible to make strait up stock Android ROMs that we see in the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
Magic_Bunny said:
Yeah: Adeo v0.1 ROM
With that being made its suppose to be possible to make strait up stock Android ROMs that we see in the Nexus S and the Nexus One.
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Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
di11igaf said:
Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
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@ di11igaf - do you think its possible that when (and i know it will be some time) android 2.3 is released for the Atrix that it will be released with an unlocked bootloader? Could this possibly be our ONLY hope for now? A long shot and a pipe dream... ?
di11igaf said:
Lol, that'll never happen. Not until the bootloader is cracked, and that will be a long time from now, if ever.
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oooh. I was told that by a "developer" but I had a feeling that it was BS.
Magic_Bunny said:
You clearly don't know anything about Android. First off, the Atrix doesn't have a Stock Android 2.2 ROM.... its running MotoBlur. Stock Android is just plain Android without the skin. Just like it was on the Nexus One.
And there is already one ROM.
Now, before you post some more stupid sh*t. Think.
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I know it doesn't have a stock android ROM. You said "So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix"...NOBODY HAS OR MADE A STOCK ROM FOR THE ATRIX.
You seem to think so, you're WRONG. Yes, there is a "ROM" for the Atrix (it's not really a ROM, or what your thinking of at least but technically yes it is a ROM) but it is not a "stock" ROM. So anyways, you're an idiot that thinks you know what your talking about, and you don't. Go read up on some stuff so your not an asshole to other users when they are just trying to explain something.
I think both of you should take this argument into pvt conversation and keep it out of the forum... have some respect for other members...
Yea you're right, sorry. But yea I'm just going to quit now I guess, no need to waste my time in a pvt conversation.
jgc121 said:
@ di11igaf - do you think its possible that when (and i know it will be some time) android 2.3 is released for the Atrix that it will be released with an unlocked bootloader? Could this possibly be our ONLY hope for now? A long shot and a pipe dream... ?
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i wouldnt count on it. maybe if motorola realizes its not a good idea to screw developers and people who actually want use android the way we should be able to, since it is open source and not an iphone, but thats just wishful thinking. i wish everyone who was unhappy about the bootloader situation would return the phone or not buy it instead of saying ya, the bootloader things sucks, but other than that i love the phone(and i do like the phone, but im not keeping it for this reason), and let them know why. im sure there will be quite a few who do return it for this reason(me), but most people will mention that they hope its cracked, but theyll keep the phone.
and moto will keep doing it if they keep selling phones, and maybe if their flagship phones start to fail and this was a reason, they will reconsider giving us a way to unlock it, but this is about as unlikely as the bootloader being cracked
BravoMotorola said:
I know it doesn't have a stock android ROM. You said "So since we can make stock ROMs for the Atrix"...NOBODY HAS OR MADE A STOCK ROM FOR THE ATRIX.
You seem to think so, you're WRONG. Yes, there is a "ROM" for the Atrix (it's not really a ROM, or what your thinking of at least but technically yes it is a ROM) but it is not a "stock" ROM. So anyways, you're an idiot that thinks you know what your talking about, and you don't. Go read up on some stuff so your not an asshole to other users when they are just trying to explain something.
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Ummmm yes there is a "stock" rom for the Atrix dumb b*tch. that Rom thats up is a MotoBlur Android 2.2 Rom..... and when I said Android 2.2 Stock Rom that is the ROM that is on the Nexus One.....
Go back to iOS where you belong.
i gotta say with our excellent eris devs we should have it in no time
right?
Holy hell...stop the madness.
i hope they are able to port it and get it stable honeycomb looks awesome on the g1!
I don't want honeycomb. I want Ice Cream. In fact, I scream for it.
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I scream, you scream, we all scream for Ice Cream!
(Can we drop the "Sandwich" thing now?)
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i gotta say with our excellent eris devs we should have it in no time
right?
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Doubtful, it's a lot more work than you think.
Also I just watched the video on that and he never even shows what version of the Android OS he has. Not saying it's a lie, just saying i'm skeptical because he never goes through the settings and shows the Firmware Version or any Software Information for that matter. Could very well just be a rom that's themed to the Honeycomb OS.
I have faith that every single version of AndroidOS in the foreseeable future will have a compile or port for the Eris, and in relatively quick fashion since devs put a quick compile or port out first just to show that it can be done, and then work to see if they can work out the kinks. I assume that the reason Gingerbread has been developing on the Eris so much faster than Froyo did because some of what was learned from work on Froyo is applicable to GB, as far as getting certain things working: Wifi, BT, Camera...
So, I have no trouble believing that someone will make a Honeycomb ROM for the Eris sometime sooner rather than later; it's just unknown if it'll really be worth it because of all the things that might get "broken" with it on the Eris. Especially since Honeycomb isn't meant for phones at all, just tablets.
I don't know if this is accurate; it's confusing if it is but it's a WIKI so it might not be, but at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) it says that even though Honeycomb is 3.0, that a 2.4 is still planned for April, and that it's only sometime after that, 2.4 and 3.0 will be recombined into Ice-Cream Sandwich about mid-2011.
I further guess that the reason that Google had this split in their Android OS was to get a major new Android OS onto new tablets, but that they won't allow this split to get abused and continued for long at all, so 2.4 will be for phones and then Ice-Cream Sandwhich will probably be for both phones and tablets.
Now that I have my view rooted I was hoping honeycomb could be a potential custom rom for it..has anyone any info on this
Well, porting is not that easy. The best place to start would be the Nook Color's Honeycomb port, the screens of the devices are same. Unfortunately, the Flyer is a brickable device, so you can't play around with it being careless. The Nook can boot an sd card, so the Nook is un-brickable. So I would wait. Wait for HTC to update it, Honeycomb is laggy anyways.
So if the flyer is brickable so is the view?....im just looking for an update for the view's current rom maybe a better bluetooth more compatable apps...
Yeah, they are brickable. I'm not a experienced dev like nickberli and i00, and have never cooked a ROM. So I'm afraid to try porting.
Well i hope someone tries ...waiting for sprint to do it would take ages
The code to Honeycomb is not open source, it will be very hard for someone to port it to the Flyer. Since the code to Honeycomb has not been released, it is not like other android releases where people can compile it for devices which the manufacturer has not bothered to make a release for. You will probably never see Honeycomb on the Flyer, IceCream is the Google intended release for devices like the Flyer.
MartinFick said:
The code to Honeycomb is not open source, it will be very hard for someone to port it to the Flyer. Since the code to Honeycomb has not been released, it is not like other android releases where people can compile it for devices which the manufacturer has not bothered to make a release for. You will probably never see Honeycomb on the Flyer, IceCream is the Google intended release for devices like the Flyer.
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icecream? we will never see an official version of icecream on the flyer. We'd be lucky if HTC gives us the upgrade to gingerbread 3.0. They've already got out what, 3.2 on the xoom?
Everyone needs to find there share, HTC has to modify it for our device, then they flip it over to sprint and then they modify it add their tweaks in, then they do a testing phase, etc.
I'm starting to assume that HTC and/or sprint is just about to say screw it and not upgrade out device.
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icecream? we will never see an official version of icecream on the flyer. We'd be lucky if HTC gives us the upgrade to gingerbread 3.0. They've already got out what, 3.2 on the xoom?
Everyone needs to find there share, HTC has to modify it for our device, then they flip it over to sprint and then they modify it add their tweaks in, then they do a testing phase, etc.
I'm starting to assume that HTC and/or sprint is just about to say screw it and not upgrade out device.
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Gingerbread is NOT 3.0. The Flyer is too new to be EOLed before ICS.
ikingblack said:
Gingerbread is NOT 3.0. The Flyer is too new to be EOLed before ICS.
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correct honeycomb is 3.x.x and gingerbread is 2.x.x
HTC flyer SDK supported both honeycomb and gingerbread. So...
Any idea on how to setup the HTC Flyer SDK on Mac? When I load up device "HTC Flyer" with HTC tab extension as the target, it boots into AOSP Froyo.
Which SDK? Link? Are you referring to the OpenSense SDK? I don't believe that is Flyer specific, so I would not base any conclusions on that.
Couldn't we just port the Puccini version of honeycomb? I realize its difficult to do bc the view is brickable. Just putting it out there.
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Couldn't we just port the Puccini version of honeycomb? I realize its difficult to do bc the view is brickable. Just putting it out there.
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The Puccini is 10" or something with a 1200 x 800 res if I recall. It would take a lot of resizing. Better wait for HTC to do it.
That's not an answer. Who here with some dev knowledge has some insight on this?
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That's not an answer. Who here with some dev knowledge has some insight on this?
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I've got a bad feeling we might never see honeycomb...its been months now and they've been silent about honeycomb...i really think (and hope not) that they've just given up on honeycomb and dedicated all there time to the puccino.
Has there been any leaked files of the puccino yet were we could start porting?
I think Honeycomb is to laggy and not worth putting on this device. Let's wait for ICS...
I'm pretty sure that we get a puccini port running on the flyer
Is there already a leaked version?
Would it be possible to create a ice cream sandwich rom for the Viewsonic G tablet?
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
Quickly, I'll hold them off while you go hide!
yashmack said:
I dont think they have released source code, let alone a phone with the OS yet...
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try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
They said tonight that the sdk will be released today
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Aaaaaaaand the SDK is out.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
Thus this is a valid question which I was going to ask myself
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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drx69 said:
try again.. Galaxy Nexus will have ics
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I know this but the phone has only been announced, it hasnt been released into the wild yet, no one has one in their hands yet
well, except maybe a few reviewers here and there
pretty sure it wont hit shelves or stores for a few more weeks
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muerteman said:
Its not a valid question yet. Once the source is released I hope we can see a stable ics room that's better than the hacked together honeycomb we have
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Im not too sure if that will happen, from what im reading the devices that will support ICS are going to be gingerbread devices
If there isnt a gingerbread ROM/kernel it probably wont support ICS
at best it will be as stable as the most stable gingerbread ROM... so not too bad
Im wondering if it will work with the honeycomb kernel the devs are creating from scratch
Theoretically the tablet has the specs to run ICS but its a matter of Google making the source code open source. If it was anything like HC I think we're gonna be out of luck.
My understanding is that Google never intended to make Honeycomb open source in the hopes of avoiding people attempting to put HC on their phones. ICS should be open source, and Google has already stated several times from what i have seen that they intend to make the codes public. I don't see why we wouldn't have a decent ICS rom out in the next month or two.
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At the very least we should probably see a CyanogenMod version, since its an officially adopted Tablet. I'm looking forward to it.
I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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I doubt it. We don't have an official honeycomb rom so I don't see ics being supported at all on gtab... I truly believe development for our gtab is officially dead.
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Well, considering that HC was never officially released as open source, I don't know why you would expect a full-featured ROM when the best that anyone could do was essentially a modified bootleg of an existing tablet's firmware. There a TON of G-Tablets out there thanks to the Woot sales, so I think it would be silly to assume that just because development has hit a lull for the last few months that it is totally dead. Give it a few months, and I bet we will see a good ICS ROM made available for our G-Tablets.
I highly doubt that the g-tablet is dead. I myself and one of my friends imported one of these just to get our hands on it.
It will only be dead if people believe that we don't want firmware for it. There is plenty people out there that are looking forward to newer firmare, we just quietly wait patiently for the master coders to do their excellent work.
TBH, I can't thank everyone here enough for the hours they put in to their hobbies. Greatly appreciated.
Google has officially stated that they WILL be releasing the source to Ice Cream Sandwich, so it's VERY likely that there eventually be multiple ICS ROMs (including Cyanogenmod) for the G Tablet.
It's out
I just read that Google has released the source code....
ICS Code-Open Source
will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
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will we be seeing an ICS Rom for our Viewsonic G-tab now that the source code was released??
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This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
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This tablet is on life support. ROM development is a small fraction of what it used to be a year ago. Updates are scarce. Be grateful for the value we got out of it over the past year.
The time to move on is fast approaching... and my eye is on the Asus Transformer Prime.
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Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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Part of that is to blame on no Honeycomb source, why would devs waste time reverse engineering when they could wait for ICS? Someone will make an ICS ROM, the lull has been to blame on their actually being NOTHING to do on this device with no Honeycomb source.
Now if those Nvidia drivers end up being a pain, it might be another story.
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You can blame the lack of source code, I think I'll stick with blaming Viewsonic for not pushing at all to get drivers or any type of updates to us on this device. Without Viewsonic or Nvidia providing drivers we're going to be in for a rough ride.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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We are waiting on you to port it......thanks!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
Just wait a little while for Ice Cream Sandwich, which will be much better than Honeycomb.
It's not that it's impossible to. It's that it's a pain, it tends to be broken, and with ICS around the corner, there is no reason to waste the effort.
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
Dont worry thr devs who are wotking on cm7 are nit tryung to get one over on u by using gingerbread
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BrianDigital said:
I had a nook color it didnt run honeycomb it ran the sdk emulator and it was not good
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This. The Honeycomb roms for the Nook and other tablets are hacked together from the SDK, so they're not optimized for the device they're running on. Since there's no source, issues cant be (comparably) easily fixed. And with that in mind, you need a good working Android base which doesnt yet exist for the touchpad since CM is (rightfully) withholding source due to its alpha status.
Even if we did have CM source, the ICS source release is just around the corner. There's no point in doing it since the work wouldnt translate and just be wasted.
Wait for the ICS source to drop if you want ICS.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I looked and searched many times and has not found any details.
I have ready countless forums and websites saying that it is not possible to port over a honeycomb rom to the TouchPad because Google has not released the source code. I owned a Viewsonic G-Tablet and I had flashed a Honeycomb Rom and it was pretty stable. Even the Nook Color has a Honeycomb port. Why does the G-Tablet and the Nook Color have the ability to run honeycomb, but not the Touchpad.
Just a question and maybe some of the devs can look into this and maybe succefully port honeycomb onto the TouchPad!
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All Honeycomb ports are hacks because Google has never released the full source for it.
The Touchpad _could_ run Honeycomb, but as the only development for it is CM7, which is gingerbread based currently, that's what you get.
If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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If you can find some people who want to sink the time into hacking Honeycomb onto it, then you could have it, but I doubt anyone is going to want to bother given that ICS source is due in the next couple of months and with any luck we'll get a CM8 port instead of a half-assed Honeycomb.
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
I think HD2 is able to boot Honeycomb too, but it never got stable.
http://www.ixplora.com/wp-content/2011/03/hd2-honeycomb-595x306.jpg
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CM9 you mean;-) CM8 has been kept open for Honeycomb specifically, so the next CM will be CM9 I read somewhere.
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Really? Seems odd given that it's closed-source, but fair enough
The more you know!
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I am not any type of dev. Hence this question I posted.
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Yeah I think he was pointing out the fact that if you want it go make it. I have to say though seriously? Just in the last week did we go from pretty much no Android to pretty dang functional gingerbread... And already asking why don't we/why doesn't someone port honeycomb... Really? Seems a little unappreciative but maybe that's just me...
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Got a link that the next version will be CM9?
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I saw on the Android BBQ video with the Cyanogen team mentioned CM9 would be next because of going to ICS next. Don't have a link but is on xda tv somewhere
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First, the nook and g-tablet ARE Android devices to being with.
Second, it took some time to get the above devices to "run" Honeycomb.
Third, neither is completely functional with Honeycomb.
Lastly, if you really really want Android your best is probably to get an Android device. I also have a g-tablet and with custom ROM that made it mostly functional, it was never 100% and issue free. I was never completely satisfied until I got an real Android device (Asus Transformer).
Being able to dual boot the Touchpad with a functional Android OS would be nice. But personally I got it to try out WebOS and have something different.