Data & Voice on TB? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
If I dont live in a Verizon 4G area, will I still be able to use the data while being on the phone feature?
Thanks,
Rich

Yes sir
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Anybody know if you don't live in a 4G area, but you travel to one (ie. I live 20minutes from a 4G location) will 4G work for you? Or do you have to actually activate the LTE SIM card at Verizon?
I asked Verizon about adding 4G to my account and they said they can't until my address is in a 4G covered area.

This is not correct. Your thunderbolts sim card was activated at time of purchase for 4g. It foes not matter where it was activated. You are able to travel to and from 4g as pleased.
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It flips between the two. I work in 4G and live in 3g area.
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So does your data speed differ when on the phone vs off the phone during a voice conversation?

RichTJ99 said:
So does your data speed differ when on the phone vs off the phone during a voice conversation?
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I've personally not seen a difference.

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Thunderbolt working in 3G locations?

Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
zachpl said:
Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
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You have nothing to fear about getting the Tbolt because it'll work just fine. Verizon doesn't have 4G where I live at (Greensboro, NC) currently but I'm getting it (preordered it at Best Buy) because I like having a signal (switching to Verizon) and the city that I live in will be the next batch of cities that they fallout 4G LTE to.
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Yes, the thunderbolt will work in 3g or 4g coverage....
The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
kenyu73 said:
The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
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http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Ok, thanks.
bobbysteels216 said:
http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Not that I'm an expert, but Verizon only can enable it under 4G coverage areas. They can do it, I assume, because they stream data over 4G and voice over 1x/3G or something in that nature. I'd post my link references, but I'm too lazy to look for them. However, I think the Wirefly unboxing guy mentioned that too.

Data connection issues only with the Note?

Hi All,
I have an AT&T Note. Both phones of course get AT&T's "4G." With both of these phones I have regular issues of data slowing to upwards of 3000ms Ping, speeds around 10-150kbps download, and 10-50kbps upload. How is this possible? It's driving me nuts, because when the damn thing works, it flies, but when it doesn't the speeds are so slow it is pretty much unusable.
EDIT: Also, on my phone the ping is always around 190ish when working well, whereas his is usually around 95. We do not live in an LTE area.
Are both on a 4g lte plan u need to go in to a att store cause thats what happen to me
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sirrdeezy said:
Are both on a 4g lte plan u need to go in to a att store cause thats what happen to me
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I just called, and I do have that plan. Even though I am not in an LTE area, should I have an LTE sim?

Notc connecting to LTE fixed

For some reason i could connect to LTE for about 30 seconds before my phone would revert to 3G. no matter how many times i updated prl or profile.
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
Nice.
I was having the same problem, could you explain what you did exactly? There is an app called network that allows you to change this?
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tomplatz said:
Solution: used Network from app store to switch from CDMA+LTE AUTO to LTE,CDMA. now getting lightning fast LTE all the time.
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Which "Network" app did you use? Play Store shows like 19,000 apps when I search on just "network"!
Thanks!
Dave
'Network' on AppBrain: http://www.appbrain.com/app/de.mangelow.network
I'll try this out, I've been dialing *#*#4636#*#* and selecting lte/cdma, this may make it easier to switch
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Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Working good for me as soon as i changed the settings.... Been on lte since then without getting on 3g.... This is good...
Thanks
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00mred00 said:
Just remember...the resets when you reboot and keeps your phone from connecting to ehrpd (i think)
Still running tests
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Whats ehrpd ?
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App works well, good shortcut..
I just have to set it back to cdma, lte+evdo/auto when I leave an lte area.. Then 3g/4g/1x hand offs appears to function normally..
Lte+cdma lets me maintain 4g down to 1 bar otherwise it drops down to 3g for no reason I can tell..
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Whats ehrpd ?
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Enhanced High Rate Packet Data (eHRPD). eHRPD is an enhancement of 1xEV-DO (AKA HRPD) that enables LTE to CDMA handover.
00mred00, do you know a way around this problem? I'm just not getting LTE if I don't change my network like this. Seems odd that we should have to do this at all. Is this a problem of the freshROM or a coverage problem or what?
Thanks for the intel.
It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully fictional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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I will have to try this next week when I am in an area supposedly with LTE on but it's not accessible
Yes! This works! I was having the same issue and sprint stores and tech support could never help! This definitely is the fix. Makes me so angry that it is just a setting on the phone. The people at the Sprint stores were insisting that there was nothing wrong. Dirty liars.
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jshow816 said:
It happens because sprint has flipped the switch early and less than half of lte towers are on and are still not fully powered up. The 3g signal is stronger (although slower) than the 4g.. Sprint has said that there lte isn't fully functional and that it's currently mostly for outdoor use
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This is pretty much what I have found here in Dallas. I am not convinced we we need a permanent solution for this reason.
For example...the areas I have to do this in are not officially up and running yet. (keep in mind not all of the "orange" is officially up yet either)
I continue to test it. Right now I want to say Atlanta is the furthest in completion
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Possible network issues

I live in a 3g only area, and today my phone has started showing 4g sporadically.
When the phone shows 4g my data stops working and then all data cuts out and 3g comes back.
I'm running viper Rom with snuzzo kernel. Could this be a software issue? The Verizon website does not have my city listed for current or upcoming 4g availability.
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iHateWebOS said:
I live in a 3g only area, and today my phone has started showing 4g sporadically.
When the phone shows 4g my data stops working and then all data cuts out and 3g comes back.
I'm running viper Rom with snuzzo kernel. Could this be a software issue? The Verizon website does not have my city listed for current or upcoming 4g availability.
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if you know you are in a city with no 4g and dont plan on getting it soon, why not change it to CDMA only? The phone might think its getting a signal from a 4g tower and its causing it to switch like that
synisterwolf said:
if you know you are in a city with no 4g and dont plan on getting it soon, why not change it to CDMA only? The phone might think its getting a signal from a 4g tower and its causing it to switch like that
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This has never happened before today, so I was hoping it was me getting 4g in my area.....
I tried the cdma only setting, and my data as a whole is spotty now. My wife's thunderbolt is doing the same thing now.
Is this what its like when they flip the 4g switch? Does anybody else remember when 4g came on in there area?
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iHateWebOS said:
This has never happened before today, so I was hoping it was me getting 4g in my area.....
I tried the cdma only setting, and my data as a whole is spotty now. My wife's thunderbolt is doing the same thing now.
Is this what its like when they flip the 4g switch? Does anybody else remember when 4g came on in there area?
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they might be testing the 4g radio in your area and it that might be causing it. give it a couple of days, if it doesnt fix you might want to as a vzw rep. for me it was back when tbolt launched when we got 4g
What ROM are you using? I know that on some ROMS, like cyanogenmod, it's actually best to keep phone on the setting that supports multiple data modes.
I live in a town of 15k and we just got 4G, so u may get it after all...
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[Q] Droid Incredible 4G GSM question

I'll try and keep this from turning into a book.
Basically I have a HTC Thunderbolt right now. It is being replaced under the extended warranty that I have with Verizon. Since they don't have any more T-bolts they are sending me a HTC Incredible 4G under my total equipment protection policy.
I have already ordered a Nexus 4 (being delivered Monday) and will be going to T-Mobile with that eventually bringing my wife over as well when her contract is up. The only reason I did the warranty claim was because my T-bolt was dead and I might as well get a free phone out of them before dropping them since my contract is up and such. That way rather than have a 1.5 year old dead T-bolt that is good for nothing but the trash, I would have a functioning phone which I could sell. Make sense so far?
So my initial thought was that I would sell the phone take the cash to recoup some of my cost of the N4 or use it toward buying my wife's new phone on the T-Mobile network. Then I saw something about the Incredible 4G being compatible with a GSM network and that if I modify the APN that I might be able to get it on T-Mobile with HSPA+. If that is the case I will just keep the phone and have a brand new phone for free for my wife rather than sell this one and buy a different one. When they ship out the new phone it will come with a Verizon SIM that I can use to get it on their network, my account is still active with them so I can call them and get and try and get an unlock code if I need one of those before I cancel my account and I can get any updates that may be out there for the phone.
Of course if this won't work I would rather sell the phone as basically a new phone, well it might be a refurb but I don't know that for sure because they said they had to send me a complete kit because I don't have a battery and battery cover that would fit since I have a T-bolt now. Though they may have complete phones as refurbs.
So if it will work, what will I need to do before I cancel my plan? Though there was that new law that went into effect the other day that makes it illegal to unlock a phone.. But if I let Verizon do it I would imagine it isn't an issue.
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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jose51197 said:
Phone is factory unlocked I'm using on gsm, if you are on android 4.0.4 you are unlocked already and just need to set up apn
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Thanks. I saw some posts from a while back that hinted at that but it mentions an upcoming update which may change some things. To be safe I will test it with my new T-Mobile SIM when I get that. The Nexus 4 also uses the micro SIM.
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I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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whodisname said:
I have this phone and have a net 10 sim card. Tried dozens of APN combo's but all I get is edge service. Is this all I can get? Any help would be great people!
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That's because 3g bands of that network aren't compatible, however if you flash cm10 you'll get more bands unlocked
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I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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whodisname said:
I'm on cyanogen 10.1. I can't seek to change the band. I dialed #*#*4636*#*# and get The menu. It let's me change my preferred network "gsm,lte,CDMA, etc. I'm using a net 10 sim. Anyone know how to get faster internet?
I know what AINT working!
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Is there a differentmenu? Maybe a different sim is the answer. Help please! I know there is a solution out here!
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Press menĂº and select bands
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I tried that. Here goes some different steps I took:
I started with cyyanogen last nightly build.
Tried switching all the different settings in the hidden men u (gsm, CDMA only prl) etc. Changed the bands from automatic to to aus2. No good except auto and USA. 2g
Did this on viper and got the options 800mhz and 1900 MHz. No good on 1900. 800mhz 2g. (E)
Used the very alpha miui ROM from the general section and got two different radio strength bars. One was 1x and the one above it (weird right) was 3g. Had signal on the 1x but couldn't use the phone right away. Had no service on the 3g (although it started out with 3bars and slowly went to 0 and stayed) changed the APN to tfdata. Got phone but no data. Had to put the phone back onto gsm only to get data. Which gavee just the one signal bar.
I'm trying here folks!!!!
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I found the 3g bands for your network are 850 and 1900 however looks like you live on a non 3g area, you just needed to Google it
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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I have been googling it for 3 days. I'm pretty sure I should get service here. Any coverage map says I'm right in the middle of the good zone. At&t, sprint, Tmobile, Verizon, virginmobile, all confirmed get signal and data here. I have been finding it a little difficult to find a lot on the radio bands but 1900 got no service here at all.
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Strange, our phone got 850 and 1900 bands at stock, and you only get 2g, have you ever got a h, also set bands in automatic and wcdma only, then search for networks manually, best way to know what carriers will work
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Gotcha.
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Hmmmmm, I never tried to use it with this sim in it stock. No no h. Just the e (sometimes g!) IMA ruu it right quick. I saw something on here bout stock but never really paid it any attention.
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g means 3g
Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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Nah. g means 1g. Analog.
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not in this case, you said you were not using your phone in stock, theres a bug where the 3g symbol got changed to g for gsm users, i read about it, statusbar theming on htc devices caused the h symbol to be swaped to g symbol, sorry about not being clear on last post
No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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Please all, stay on topic and with respect.
Otherwise infractions will visit you
Thanks for your cooperation
Hi all
any way to put 850 band on htc incredible 4g?
i only see 800 - 1900 and japan bands 800 - 2000
You have to use a difderent sim card. There are people on here who know what oones tp get but they dont really like to. AT&T is supposed to work. Im not sure. You cannot put another frequency antenna on this phone without taking it apart and using a soldering iron. (Good luck!)
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No. The g is definitely 1g. 5-15 KB a sec. All the symbols work I think because when I had Verizon on the same rom it showed the 1x, 3g, lte, icons, depending upon where I was. Usually lte or 3g. I'm going to get some go phone sims in a week or whenever they come in. The sim cards are cheap so I can change them out no prob. I just have ran out of $350 a month for phone service. I can almost deal with it Cuz its slow but very stout signal. Never dropped a download yet. I just don't like having to set up all my DL to run while I sleep. I'm used to lte ya dig!
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you are arguing with a very experienced person here. him and i both know a thing or two about phones and i must say, if he's sure its a bug, then it is. I am inclined to believe him too because we all know that HTC programmed this phone for a specific service initially, and they were not counting on it ever going outside the VZW network. That being said, there is no way for the phone to tell what network its on. Case and point... i just manually flashed my phone to the MetroPCS PRL and it still says Verizon Wireless... The network speed i get will not be shown as LTE even though i have it, because it only ever used GSM for LTE(which is partially GSM-based technology), not voice and data. So, on the stock rom, the phone is and will be "confused". CM10.1 works great and DOES know the difference. You will have best results by being s-off as i am.

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