Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
zachpl said:
Hi guys, I am looking into getting an upgrade soon from my Droid eris and was wondering if the thunderbolt will work in areas only with 3G coverage and not 4G coverage as it is not available in my area. Thanks.
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You have nothing to fear about getting the Tbolt because it'll work just fine. Verizon doesn't have 4G where I live at (Greensboro, NC) currently but I'm getting it (preordered it at Best Buy) because I like having a signal (switching to Verizon) and the city that I live in will be the next batch of cities that they fallout 4G LTE to.
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Yes, the thunderbolt will work in 3g or 4g coverage....
The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
kenyu73 said:
The only thing that wont work is the advertised voice and data at the same time as you need 4G (i think voice uses 3G and data 4G or some silly techy thing like that).
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http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Ok, thanks.
bobbysteels216 said:
http://www.google.com/m/url?ei=BHBY...kQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEBwnE762OMq0NAbBCw6mfV1Nju0g
According the page at the link above and many other pages, Verizon is enabling simultaneous voice and data over CMDA.
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Not that I'm an expert, but Verizon only can enable it under 4G coverage areas. They can do it, I assume, because they stream data over 4G and voice over 1x/3G or something in that nature. I'd post my link references, but I'm too lazy to look for them. However, I think the Wirefly unboxing guy mentioned that too.
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Hi,
If I dont live in a Verizon 4G area, will I still be able to use the data while being on the phone feature?
Thanks,
Rich
Yes sir
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Anybody know if you don't live in a 4G area, but you travel to one (ie. I live 20minutes from a 4G location) will 4G work for you? Or do you have to actually activate the LTE SIM card at Verizon?
I asked Verizon about adding 4G to my account and they said they can't until my address is in a 4G covered area.
This is not correct. Your thunderbolts sim card was activated at time of purchase for 4g. It foes not matter where it was activated. You are able to travel to and from 4g as pleased.
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It flips between the two. I work in 4G and live in 3g area.
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So does your data speed differ when on the phone vs off the phone during a voice conversation?
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So does your data speed differ when on the phone vs off the phone during a voice conversation?
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I've personally not seen a difference.
If so how?
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Looks possible
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-thunderbolt/142918-thunderbolt-metro-pcs.html
an2ane said:
If so how?
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Don't do it. You'll regret it. I did this with my Sprint EVO 4G and the data is so slow and with high latency that it is basically unusable. The voice call quality is also terrible. With metropcs you will only connect at 1x speed (2G). The other networks are not compatible (3G and 4G).
I'm running gingerbread on m Evo on metropcs... I have 3g, the evo is awesome on metro. Here is what I recommend; root, delete bloatware and add updated prl. The evo is flawless on metro.
I decided to try the Thunderbolt on metro pcs...it is a work in progress. After getting 3 "it can't be done," found a place that made some progress. I have text and talk on metro. Now if I remove the sim card, web works- no 3g. The person whom is working on it, will give it another try in a few days. Will report if it works...
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Update: still no 3G or able to sent out pic messages...but everything else works great...
Will never work right because,,,,
I do not post a lot unless I see somthing that touches my experience, but this does. I am a system engineer (contractor) and work on all of the carrier's systems, just finished up 4.5 years ay VZW and now on a short one for Metro. The problems You will have are not worth it because consistant results will vary. Sprint uses 1.9 ghz for voice and 4g is Wi-Max, so EVO will have problem with 4g and maybe voice because Metro uses 2.1 ghz AWS in some markets and 1.9 in others and their 4g is LTE so it is a crap shoot at best and all will work nowhere and none in some places. The same is said for VZW devices as they use 850 and 1.9 for voice and EVDO and 700 for 4g LTE. If you just want to play with it ok, but expect no reliable functionallity as if You were to use a branded device for Your carrier.
Like I posted previously, on my HTC Evo- it is fully flashed (web 3g only, mms, gps, text and talk). Running Gingerbread and all features working (minus LTE). There was no issue with voice whats so ever. Never had a dropped call. My evo has reliable 3g in my market. Did you add the latest prl? I also bought my wife an Evo and she loves it. All features working- on Gingerbread with 3g speeds.
Now I have a thunderbolt flashed to metro pcs (web 2g only, no mms, gps, text and talk). But will eventually soon have it on 3g. Hopefully mms as well. There are some also reporting having the Thunderbolt fully flashed with 3g and mms on cricket...so it is all matter of time. Voice sounds very clear.
I highly recommend the HTC Evo on metro. The Thunderbolt still needs more time until someone gets it going.
When can I expect the thunderbolt to be flashable I really need to asap
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MetroPCS Thunderbolt
I flashed my Thunderbolt onto MetroPCS, and I can confirm that SMS, Calling and Internet Works (Only 1X here in Dallas)
Only thing I need is MMS working. It's difficult. I tried everything from changing the APNs to using Go SMS for MMS. Nothing works.
go to whiterabbit for the mms fix, its been a while since i touched a metro phone.
the key thing should be finding a way to get the 4g working, since it is an lte phone.
i have a few ideas if any one is interested
I hate Verizon so much for the BS they pulled on us with the Tbolt and abandonware.
I'm looking at dumping VZW and going back to TMobile on a contract-free, monthly discount plan.
EDIT: Nevermind, I wasn't thinking. Of course VZW is CDMA and Tmobile is GSM.
The thunderbolt can be flashed to different CDMA networks. The only problem is that you will only get 3g. The LTE frequency that Verizon has is only usable by a Verizon phone so it is locked there.
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The thunderbolt can be flashed to different CDMA networks. The only problem is that you will only get 3g. The LTE frequency that Verizon has is only usable by a Verizon phone so it is locked there.
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Wait I thought people were saying that 3G doesn't work on metro and only 1x worked?
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Wait I thought people were saying that 3G doesn't work on metro and only 1x worked?
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I don't know what kind of network metro has. If its CDMA it should be able to get 3g but its possible that their frequency is out of the thunderbolts range.
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So, I know CDMA shouldn't support this.. but I have it. Huh?
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The Rezound and Tbolt support it
Yep rezound has svdo so it works
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Yes, kind of cool. I was using it the otherday while on speakerphone .
The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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Amazing we lived without it so long eh? LOL
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The 3G the thunderbolt and rezound use is eHRPD which is what allows it
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So does it only work on 3g or also on 4g? If you're in an area with good 4g would you have to go through settings while on phone to turn off LTE to then use the 3g?
Whether in 3g or 4g, the Rezound and Thunderbolt can do both voice and data at the same time. Other 4g devices must be connected to 4g to do it.
Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
I was using Verizon's tethering the other day and pushed an email through while on the phone. Thats why I came looking for this thread. Holy crap this is the happiest day of my life!!!
So, yes, I can confirm that tethering continues in 3g while on the phone.
Why is this not listed as front page news? Or one of the phone's top benefits?
That explains why I was getting IM's in Facebook while I was on the phone and 4G is turned off. Hah.. Good phone. thanks all. Suck it iphone! lol
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Can anybody confirm if wifi tether continues to push data when talking and in a 3g zone.
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Just confirmed WiFi Tether (rooted) works while talking at the same time, in 3G.
Noticed last night that one of my game asset downloads made significant progress while I was on a long call. Wondered why that was. Glad to hear that's a feature we got with our new toys.
gotta love it!
i <3 Rezound
We have dual CDMA antennas, one is 1x and 3G the other is 3G and 4G LTE
Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Mesaman2012 said:
Is it true that I can put a at&t sim card in my t-mobile amaze and get 3 and 4 g coverage?Does this phone have LTE bands in it?and I was told thY the white amaze is better than the black one why?
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Both white and black are the same, yes you will get 3G and 4G coverage on at&t since 4G is hspa and at&t supports hspa.
No this phone doesn't have lte and just a heads up, though you will get 4G, it might not be as fast t-mobile from what I've heard, their HSPA isn't that fast but still pretty decent.
I appreciate that.
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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Is this phone pentaband? If it is specific for TMO bands only, you will only get edge on AT&T as I understand it......
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It has the 1900 band, at&t's HSPA network runs on that band.
What about 3g?
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What about 3g?
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HSPA is 3G, HSPA+ is 4G, the iPhone has both HSPA and HSPA+, which works on the iPhone's 1900 band, get where I'm going with this?
I'm using my Amaze on at&t through straight talk and it's 4g.
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Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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redeyss said:
Using my amaze on straight talk at&t towers, works great with 3g/4g.
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Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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Two people made this claim, doubt they would both be lying.
Dark Ellipse said:
Can you post some screenshots of your speed tests? I didn't think straight talk supported 4G.
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ST does support 4G but right now my tower is under a full noon load.
12 noon speed is awful but 12 midnight speed is great.
At&t doesn't keep up on maintenance with these towers.
Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Are you forced into an at&t data plan?
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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bingo
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Don't think they can force you into one if you bring your own device.
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I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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I didnt know that, wow ATT sucks
That's hot I didn't now we could do all these things to a device. I had idea until my friend mentioned it sweet.
Biohazard0289 said:
I used to work for Business End User Care for AT&T. As of the time I left (november), if you placed your sim in a smartphone and used it for about a day the system would add the lowest data plan and send you a text message indicating it had been added to your account. Even if you were using someone's phone while your "feature phone" wad being replaced, it was required. I've had to read that section of the TOS to many, many angry people. I would call and confirm just to be safe.
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DO NOT CALL to ask..... as they won't know the answer, and might put a note on your account to force a data plan(well, you could call and ask on someone else's phone without giving your account number)
the primary way (so far that I've seen) that AT&T detects your smartphone is via IMEI. Secondary might be you using >100GB/month, connecting to their 4G APN settings, going to a store for help and letting the customer rep see that you have a smartphone
does AT&T have your IMEI? probably not.... AT&T has IMEI of all of their smartphones, so you can't use an AT&T smartphone. You can try using an (unlocked) t-mobile phone, but might not support the right 3G/4G bands that AT&T use. You can try international phones, canda phones(from Bell, Telus...). WARNING>>>. AT&T might have your IMEI because the manufacture gave them the IMEI(See Google Nexus phones), inference from branded phones that they carry(eg Phone is sold/branded by AT&T and t-mobile... AT&T gets a list of their phone IMEIs that might include t-mobile's IMEIs), screwups(Samsung Note overseas was misentered as a tablet on AT&T's network, white i9100 Galaxy SII is misentered as a Blackberry on AT&T's network)
The link at the end of this post gives a guide to what phones are 100% compatible(3G/4G on 850/1900) on AT&T's network.
According to this, the T-Mobile Amaze 4G is compatible with AT&T 3G/4G, but I have some confusion on the 850/1900 mhz band for the 3G/4G data, trying to sort it out(last few posts on that thread)
Guide to what phones are 100% compatible with AT&T's network
anyways, quick update
got a T-mobile Amaze 4G to play with
(with unlocked bootloader, S-Off, Super CID and SIM unlock, all available on this forum), works on AT&T 4G (HSDPA)
speeds right now ~ 1000 kbits/s up/down, hard to test because my location is spotty
I live in a 3g only area, and today my phone has started showing 4g sporadically.
When the phone shows 4g my data stops working and then all data cuts out and 3g comes back.
I'm running viper Rom with snuzzo kernel. Could this be a software issue? The Verizon website does not have my city listed for current or upcoming 4g availability.
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iHateWebOS said:
I live in a 3g only area, and today my phone has started showing 4g sporadically.
When the phone shows 4g my data stops working and then all data cuts out and 3g comes back.
I'm running viper Rom with snuzzo kernel. Could this be a software issue? The Verizon website does not have my city listed for current or upcoming 4g availability.
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if you know you are in a city with no 4g and dont plan on getting it soon, why not change it to CDMA only? The phone might think its getting a signal from a 4g tower and its causing it to switch like that
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if you know you are in a city with no 4g and dont plan on getting it soon, why not change it to CDMA only? The phone might think its getting a signal from a 4g tower and its causing it to switch like that
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This has never happened before today, so I was hoping it was me getting 4g in my area.....
I tried the cdma only setting, and my data as a whole is spotty now. My wife's thunderbolt is doing the same thing now.
Is this what its like when they flip the 4g switch? Does anybody else remember when 4g came on in there area?
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This has never happened before today, so I was hoping it was me getting 4g in my area.....
I tried the cdma only setting, and my data as a whole is spotty now. My wife's thunderbolt is doing the same thing now.
Is this what its like when they flip the 4g switch? Does anybody else remember when 4g came on in there area?
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they might be testing the 4g radio in your area and it that might be causing it. give it a couple of days, if it doesnt fix you might want to as a vzw rep. for me it was back when tbolt launched when we got 4g
What ROM are you using? I know that on some ROMS, like cyanogenmod, it's actually best to keep phone on the setting that supports multiple data modes.
I live in a town of 15k and we just got 4G, so u may get it after all...
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