So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
-Source
EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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If you are not a Sprint customer and are thinking of switching over, here's a promotion for you
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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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cordell12 said:
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
dirkyd3rk said:
Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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gmap516 said:
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
phatmanxxl said:
No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
dirkyd3rk said:
I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.
Related
So,
I've read reviews and tech specs and on paper at least the flyer seems to outwit the galaxy tab, which is the only other real contender.
So as my sig says, I've had a desire for ages now and think its the best thing since latex! So I am heavily bias towards getting another HTC.
BUT .....................
With a lack of Dev interest, and still tentatively waiting on any kind of official HTC unlocking of bootloaders, is it still a better choice to go with than the well established dev community for the galaxy tab?
An a few questions for peeps already using the flyer, is it possible at all to do HDMI mirroring or at least HDMI video playback? An can you access the internal memory as a flash drive as you would with the desire?
Many thanks in advance.
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There is a Flyer versus Galaxy Tab 10.1 thread in this subforum, so you should check that out. Although the GT 10.1 is a much larger form factor, and running Honeycomb. So not quite the same comparison you are talking about, with the 1st gen Galaxy Tab's 7-inch form factor and existing developer community.
I too am a strong supporter of HTC (on my 3rd HTC phone), and that is one of the main reasons I got the Flyer. I haven't checked out what the Gingerbread update for the 1st gen Galaxy Tab is like, or custom ROMs. But the stock Flyer experience is much more polished than the GT stock Froyo ROM. Plus, the Flyer has higher CPU and memory specs.
I'm a bit concerned about developer interest as well. Hopefully, things will ramp up, the device is still very new. Not sure if its the locked bootloader, HTC's stronger protections against rooting on more recent products, or an increasingly crowded tablet market, that is slowing up developer interest. But I'm still keeping my fingers crossed . . .
Why not wait a couple of months for the 10" HTC tablet, the bigger brother of the Flyer?
7" tablets are for different use than the 10" devices, just like the difference between netbook and 15" laptop.
for HDMI you will need to purchase an additional cable http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=209996
I have bee fooling around with the Flyer since monday and I am extremely happy with it. The thre main uses are: reading while commuting - most time in Pulse/Reader, using the Notes and Email app in meetings at work and reading and media consumption back home.
The 7 inch form factor is real win for most uses except for couch surfing. Sitting the tablet on my lap I would not mind the extra realestate of the 10 inch tablet. Sense makes me pretty much forget I am not using Honeycomb specific apps.
I wouldn't mind the Flyer being a bit lighter.
Overall I give the Flyer a big thumbs up. And I still consider the flyer a novelty that will attract the developer crowd eventually.
nxtwrld said:
for HDMI
Overall I give the Flyer a big thumbs up. And I still consider the flyer a novelty that will attract the developer crowd eventually.
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I totally agree with you ! a 7" tablets is the best choice for mobility, and Flyer is the one!
I have been trying all the tablets, but at the end of the day, if you are on the move and need portability, the flyer is the way to go. If you are just couch surfing, then get a 10".
I have been using my flyer for everything from couch surfing, to taking notes in meetings. It works very well, and is very reliable. It's my favorite tablet, and a keeper.
x5starguerillaa said:
So,
I've read reviews and tech specs and on paper at least the flyer seems to outwit the galaxy tab, which is the only other real contender.
So as my sig says, I've had a desire for ages now and think its the best thing since latex! So I am heavily bias towards getting another HTC.
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One thing to consider is that the 7" Tab is not likely to see much updating from Samsung in the future, my guess is that in their eyes it's EOL. They have new machines to support.
However there is a strong dev community for it and they will likely make improvements for a long time. That being said, it may never make the jump to Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich.
The Flyer, being new, is just starting it's vendor support life cycle and they SAY it will be upgraded to at least Honeycomb (no firm date, but at least they are saying it will be).
If they do unlock the boot-loader, which would most likely happen during a major update I would think (keep it locked until the HC upgrade to make it easier on tech support maybe?), the Flyer may end up being a highly supported device, just because it's one of the few 7" machines out there.
I very much considered the Tab, even had it in my Amazon cart for a while before deciding that I wanted to buy the Flyer. Would have preferred to spend less, but I'll likely use it for a number of years so $500 vs $350 isn't much of a problem. I needed a 7" screen for portability and I've been very happy with it so far.
Several reasons for Flyer over GT 7. Better processor, Better Screen (Super LCD vs TFT), Sense, Pen integration (don't spend $80, get a Fujitsu one for $30.) It is flat out faster in use. Better Rear camera. Stronger case. Longer support life. Def worth the $150 difference.
I have a Flyer but it is going back. I've enjoyed it for a week now but it's not satisfying me 100%.
Coming from a Galaxy S phone with much better codec support out of the box, the Flyer is disappointing. At least there's Mobo player.
No way to Bluetooth tether since Android hates adhoc networks, annoying (even though the Transformer apparently does BT tether).
Very nice device and the form factor is nice, nearly perfect, but at $500 plus tax I expected a bit more satisfaction.
So far the only thing I am missing is the phone.
Is it possible to add the HTC Phone into the Flyer by an firmware upgrade ?
I also am considering the Flyer just waiting for a price drop or if I can save enough for it. Few questions however:
1. Does the flyer do hdmi mirroring or just video playback?
2. Are the games user friendly from onlive ?
3. What type of movies aren't playing well? I really don't need the highest quality movies as long as its decent quality I'm ok with that?
4. Also is the notes app well developed im an engineer student so the idea of taking notes during a class like dynamics or controls writing hints and drawing diagrams on slides
Sounds very appealing. How well would that notes app work if I'm constantly writing?
I was looking at the galaxy tab but it seems to lack external ports such as usb microsd slot and hdmi. I'm a big hdmi user so thar automatically cancels any tablet for me if I can't use hdmi mirroring.
So I'm also curious about the Ee pad memo and the webos touchpad. Does anyone know if the touchpad and eepad memo will have hdmi mirroring thru cable or will an external port be needed?
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Personally... if the Flyer was released @ the same time as the Desire HD I'd have picked it up in a heart beat.
But with Dual Core comming up....
I'd say wait till HTC nxt offering.
I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
waltah! said:
I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
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Actually, it's Sense 2.1, not 3.0.
I have now had the flyer for 4 days now and I owned every tablet on the market, and the Flyer is bar-none the best I have used.
I wouldn't sell this things for a $1000, I love the Flyer. Is very underrated in every way, plus the performance wipes other tablets *** thus far.
darkknight1114 said:
I have now had the flyer for 4 days now and I owned every tablet on the market, and the Flyer is bar-none the best I have used.
I wouldn't sell this things for a $1000, I love the Flyer. Is very underrated in every way, plus the performance wipes other tablets *** thus far.
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Only if it had the phone dialer it couldn't be any perfecter....
LordLugard said:
Actually, it's Sense 2.1, not 3.0.
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Sense 3.0 has the "ring" multi-function lock screen, HTC Trace on the keyboard, and new weather app.
Or does the Flyer have Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 features?
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I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
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sorry but the playbook can't touch the Flyer, everything about the playbook is lame. Also the Flyer out performers the playbook as the Flyer is much snappier and faster even On a single core.
compared my flyer to a co-workers playbook today.
A little off topic but I didn't want to create a new thread....will this sub-forum be used for the EVO View 4G when it's released? It's the same tablet but with wimax.
I thought the question would've been posed already. To be honest i'm thinking the GS2 will be faster than the Galaxy Nexus with ICS. What do you owners of the GS2 think? Anyone jumping ship?
Doesn't the galaxy nexus have hardware acceleration built into the UI?
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I weighed this decision heavily for a few days before getting my SGS2.
The Nexus has a weaker GPU, no MicroSD slot, and a 720p screen, but it's a pentile screen. More info on that that means: http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
It will also likely cost more, even on contract, but that's my speculation.
Ultimately, I wasn't willing to lose storage expansion and GPU power to gain higher resolution. The usable area of the screen isn't bigger because of the onscreen home keys.
Plus, we have MikeyMike01's ROM here.
SGS2, like the Captivate before it, just seems like the sweet spot.
Robstunner the galaxy nexus has hardware acceleration with ics. As much as the gn will be awesome besides the larger qhd screen I am probably going to stuck with the sgs2 as the specs compared to the gn is not that much different to warrant the change over. Just my opinion.
Hth,
Charlie
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
Read that about the pixel per inch controversy.
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Yea I'm sticking with my sgs2...
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I'm glad to see everyone is excited about their GS2. You guys are making my decision easy. I have a Sensation and i'm on tmobile but I'm going to terminate early. Thank God for the prorating of the early termination
GN is kinda meh... This nexus is blah this time around. 720p screen is nice but me personally, if i need a screen to watch something, I'll watch it on my 52" 1080p lcd, thank you.
I'll stay with my "superphone" the sgs2.
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Not for Galaxy nexus. IPHONE 5/6 maybe but have to be at least 4.3" screen.
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I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
The GS2 has sold 10 million units. Guess who will have the most ROMs....
Ill get it if its made of metal and has a nicely contoured back. As much as I like this phone I hate Samsung plastic and flat backs. Imo my inspire was perfect ergonomically
Bxsteez said:
I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
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*Takes in a long breath*
You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
dont forget the 5mp cam too
Alucardis666 said:
*Takes in a long breath*
You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
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I'm going to have to disagree on all accounts. iOS is NOT heavily customizable and it is far from the best device created. I will agree that it is the easiest phone to use but that is about it.
Changing wallpaper is not my idea of customization. I know you can hack the crap out of the iphone and do a bunch of stuff after a jailbreak but its no android phone. I don't agree that iphone excels at music/media playback and that is the iPhone not third party applications. Yea you can sync with itunes (which is crap) and your videos are converted and transferred automatically, which again leads to it being the simipliest device, but that does not make it a multimedia powerhouse. Android devices come with HDMI out (not the SGS2).
Basically the iPhone has its place but its not with techies. Its a great "dumb" phone but not the best and it may never be. That is up to Apple.
I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... okay, that's better
I agree the music implementation in android is great. I like what Samsung has done with the player controls on the lock screen and notification shade. I use Pandora mostly, and its the same on both. I always felt one of the best commercials for android would have been: "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes ... you're welcome." I was excited to stop the weekly 80MB iTunes updates when I got my Captivate. Joyous beyond measure I could drag and drop my music and movies myself. Plus, I can share everything I have with others without having to get floola, or iTunes, just send it or plug in.
But, I have never purchased an iProduct before or since my iPhone. I was a Zune user, and loved letting my iPod owning friends play with it, waiting for them to drop their jaw and comment on built in FM, WiFi, twice the screen size, and a user interface that a newbie can use. When I used their ipods I always gave up trying to navigate those menus.
Back to the task at hand ... yes Galaxy Nexus is a hardware dissapointment. I liken it to the iPhone 4S "upgrade" that took 16 months to come out. Like the iPhone event was really about Siri, the Nexus event was really about ICS. I think we'll have all the ICS goodness soon.
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To each their own I guess... just voicing my opinion. Android is a stronger platform than iOS with more functionality and tweakability, but iOS does work easier and in some places better I think. I'm not hating on one or the other, just stating my opinion. I really wish the music app in android was handled better. I miss my genius playlist abilities and smart shuffle.
re: Compare
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to
our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
Also you will find that even though the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has higher
resolution and a larger screen than our SGS2 has, if you put the two side
by side our Samsung SGS2 has noticeably larger default text fonts making
it by far easier to read.
I know we can change the text font sizes, however most if not all the apps
and games available for our phones are designed to use the default fonts
not only performance, but also for the very best appearance that's possible.
Not only is the text larger on our phones but anything and everything on the
screen is larger.
As far as game play goes, most games are designed to look and work best in a
more standardized resolution like our phones have.
Just my personal opinion
I thought the topic was gn vs gs2? Where is apple in there?
I was drooling watching the nexus event but the truth is my gs2 should run ics without issue and hopefully we aren't waiting too long for official ics update.
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Misterjunky said:
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
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after seeing the unveiling, these were the exact things i was thinking of... a "worse" camera, and the same specs under the hood... pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
I was thinking..
First off, I'm very happy with my 3D.
OK, I started to think about next years Evo, Wondering how its going to be.
knowing Evo line is top dog for sprint. I know, Sprint wont disappoint next year.
I cant imagine what else can Htc can put in a phone to make it better?
Are super 3D phone is a nice phone. but, next years Evo should get better all around!
So just for fun, what do you guys think the next successor for are beloved Evo 3d will have under the hood?
I know Sprint is having a presentation in CES, which should be intresting.
also, Htc needs to step up there game knowing Samsung has taken the lead.
I 'm thinking they need to come out with something better than Galaxy Nexus which is Samsung best phone now.
And finally will Htc add 3d to the next Evo successor?
I hope next Evo has:
-Kickstand I really miss it.
-1080p recording
-4.7 inch 720p screen (want higher ppi than iphone)
-Cpu: I'm sorry Htc, just drop Qualcomm go with tegra 3!
-ram 1.5
-internal storage 16gb/up
-bigger battery 1950 mah?
-WORLD PHONE!?
-Lte? because wimax is having a slow death.
- Better 3D
Thoughts?
All that but I want two gigs of ram. Why you ask? Nintendo DS emulators haha. Two gigs and a tegra three would most likely make that possible
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why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
JoelZ9614 said:
why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
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+1
Qualcomm's S4 are better imo than tegra 3.
Google HTC EDGE / HTC ZETA .
1.5 GHz tegra vs 2.5GHz Qualcomm's S4
JoelZ9614 said:
why Tegra 3? Qualcomm's S4 proccesor FTW
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Yup Yup!!
Anyone that has doubts of Qualcomm needs to read up on their new s4 chips. Were talking LTE modem built into the freaking die of the chip itself! Supposed to save huge on battery life in regards to that aspect. Watch the engadget district video that has the HTC new developer tablet on it for ton more info.
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sgt. slaughter said:
Yup Yup!!
Anyone that has doubts of Qualcomm needs to read up on their new s4 chips. Were talking LTE modem built into the freaking die of the chip itself! Supposed to save huge on battery life in regards to that aspect. Watch the engadget district video that has the HTC new developer tablet on it for ton more info.
Also its probable that we won't have the next big EVO till later in the year as compared to the past when its been June/july. Seems were lookin at septemberish now based on the sprint exec saying first LTE phones in late 3rd qtr next yr.
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Qualcomm is probably one of the top tech companies in the world right now. Just because Tegra 2 had the spot light in 2011, don't underestimate the S3 and the upcoming S4. They have some of the highlight ARM architecture in all the world, focusing not just on raw power but a balance of on-board radios, power conservation, and developing their own GPUs.
I'm betting July will see the EVO LTE, maybe quad-core, 4.7" 720p with NFC and Beats audio, and of course LTE radio. By then, HTC might also make the full-time swap to AMOLED screens.
You have to look at it like this, the next EVO will be the TRUE EVO sequel, because original EVO owners will be coming off their 2-year contracts.
CPU
Thanks for the reply's.
Anyways, I took a look at Qualcomm s4 processors and was very impress.
I might have to take back what I said about dropping Qualcomm
and getting tegra 3.
Lastly I read somewhere that maybe Intel will be also making a announcement same time frame as sprint? maybe Evo super phone with Intel Cpu??
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
Qualcomm is the best right now, but no reason to leave it. Wimax is going downhill fast though, so lte is much stronger signal to get inside buildings.
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I just want one camera with a higher quality sensor and use the rest of that space for a decent speaker.
Dear HTC, we do not all live and work in quiet environments. When $20 prepaid throw away phones are ringing louder than yours, there is a problem.
I'd settle for the exact same CPU/GPU (clocked at 1.5) if it had a brighter 720p 3D screen that DIDN'T lower its resolution when in 3D (like 3DS, it would technically be 2560x720 ro 2560x1440, but have 1280x720 effectively in and out of 3D)
I'd buy two of the damned things. Why? F**k you, that's why!
z50king said:
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
Qualcomm is the best right now, but no reason to leave it. Wimax is going downhill fast though, so lte is much stronger signal to get inside buildings.
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The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
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Lol i want this phone! I especially liked the G+ integration.. i am days away from deleting my FB!
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
-
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I am literally camping out in front of a Sprint store and adding another line to my family plan to get this monster should it become a reality as opposed to just far-flung hopes and dreams, spectacular as they may be.
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spartan1987 said:
The only reason WiMax penetration is so bad is because of the spectrum that Sprint uses for it currently. They are leveraging the 800mhz spectrum leftover from the iDen network Sprint acquired from Nextel right now, but I'm not sure if it's for LTE or not yet, I'm hoping it is bc that would make overall penetration much better. (that's what she said, lol.)
Anyways, to the point of this thread.
What I hope the Evo LTE has:
-keep the 4.3in screen (I don't care if it's 3D or not just better than the already amazing qHD) bc I like being able to fit this in my pocket and I have a tablet for a bigger screen.
-Qualcomm quad-core processor.
-1.5-2gb of ram.
-either make it come with 16gb onboard storage or throw in a 32gb microsd(Verizon's been doing it).
-Kickstand that allows for both landscape and portrait view.
-bring back HDMI (im not sold on the whole DLNA thing, but what do I know).
-10mp camera (don't care about 1080p for my phone, there are dedicated HD cameras out there for that).
-NFC
-keep the dedicated camera button (love it).
-have two different colors at launch as opposed to waiting.
-ICS (Duh)
-Sense 4.0 (I hated 1.0 but 3.0 and 3.5 have been great IMO).
-Gorilla Glass (Duh)
-Some type of net top ability a la motorola, but with chrome instead of firefox.
- Biggest battery possible with slimmest form factor.
-Keep the Black/Red accents (classy and sexy all at the same time.)
-Ditch the physical home/menu/back/search keys and keep the bezel to a minimum (phones look better when their screens take advantage of the real estate.)
-Removable bloatware (one can only hope...)
-unlockable bootloader at launch, no waiting months later (I'll still wait for S-off myself ;-)
-Aluminum unibody
-Google+ integration with sense bc I hate Facebook.
-and as always I hope it can cook, clean, and pleasure
-
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Ditto, you pretty much nailed what the next one should be like.
I'll add that they dial up Carl Ziess & get serious about the camera & it's lens.
- I want an AMOLED screen....first and foremost. After seeing how amazing things look on those screens, I won't consider any phone that doesn't have that in the future.
- At least 16GB of eMMC storage
- MicroSDXC capable card slot
- Screen size like the Galaxy Nexus
- Include the stock android launcher. I like sense apps (messaging, browser, etc), but give me the option to use the stock launcher
- Processor/GPU of similar/better performance to the Exynos processors in the ET4G
- LTE and WiMax radios. If sprint is going to continue to support wimax, there will be pockets where you have one, but not the other. Allow us to connect to both.
Make the phone thinner!
It should look more like the HTC Sensation, but maybe a 4.5 inch HD screen.
bigger battery
More ram
BETTER camera
krayziejoe said:
Make the phone thinner!
It should look more like the HTC Sensation, but maybe a 4.5 inch HD screen.
bigger battery
More ram
BETTER camera
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One thing i dont want to see is it being thinner or redic. thin. I like the size thickness wise of the phones now to be honest.
-LTE
-Tegra3 Processor 1.5ghz. Not underclocked.
-An actual 4gb ram after software installation.
-16gb internal storage with 64gb microsd slot
-Keep qHD res. Higher res means harder to find crystal clear wallpapers.
-Samsung display colors. They are gorgeous.
-ICS Stock
-Kickstand(A MUST)
-2000mah battery or higher in a slim design.
-All black sleek design with red casing like Evo 4G.
-Better camera photo wise.
-Last but not least...Button apart of the phone again. Not the back door like this phone. My power button sinks in and I have to remove the door and put it back on to fix it again.
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z50king said:
Why do you wish to have 1080p video capture? The compression would be horrible and the optics are quite crappie as it is for video. Just seems like a waste to me
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I don't really understand it either. I'm taking cell phone videos, not a major motion picture.
Hello guys! After months of false starts, broken promises, sudden price increases ("Yeah I can do $300...well okay how about $320 and you pay shipping?"), and other bits of misfortune, I have finally gotten my hands on this amazing device. So I thought I'd share my thoughts on it after giving it a few days to try out. You never know who would be interested in such an opinion.
**warning
This thread is absolutely useless and is only your friendly neighborhood XDA News Writer sharing an opinion. Feel free to not take it seriously.
**Note
Yes, I am aware the phone was released awhile ago. This is my first impressions personally, not world's first impressions.
Okay, since I suck at review-type posts in general, I'm going to start typing now. Stop reading at the end or when you're bored
Screen:
The screen is gorgeous. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The size and resolution of this phone is simply beautiful.
Camera:
Above average but not "omgzorz amazing". It is good enough to skip buying a point-and-click. Not good enough for photographers. Thankfully, I am not a photographer. The features for the camera are nice, but I'm not an Instagram person (or even a photo filter person). So half the stuff I realistically use, and half I probably never will.
Form Factor/Hardware/Buttons:
This is by far the thinnest phone I've ever owned. I came from the Galaxy Nexus (which is a great phone too), and this one is so thin I actually had problems handling it for the first day. I kept forgetting the phone was that thin. Personally, I like the capacitive buttons over the on-screen buttons. I know all my screen real estate is being dedicated to apps. None of that "4.65 inch screen...but really you're only getting 4.3 inches because of the soft buttons" crap. Everything else is well placed and looks good. The kickstand is way better than the OG EVO. The back plastic plate isn't nearly as hard to get off as video reviewers seem to make it sound (read: they're pansies ).
Performance:
Holy crap. Once I got it tuned to how I like it, not even Google Voice lags (it lags in Bluestacks running on my freaking 8-core processor for Christ's sake). When I first got it and it was first activated, I had some hiccups in the app drawer and pinch-to-zoom in Chrome. I've since installed a custom ROM (MeanROM), set the governor to ondemand, clocked by processor back to 1.5GHz (stock MeanROM comes 1.7GHz OC), and I've had no lag at all ever since. Usually a phone I own lags in some way that's slightly annoying but not a deal breaker (i.e. when scrolling a list in Plume, that slight "pause" when you switch the home screen right after turning the screen on, or taking unusually long to make menu selections). This doesn't seem to have that problem.
Battery/Temp:
The battery on this thing is incredible. Yes, it's not removable. I never used multiple batteries anyway. I actually moved today and the phone held up like a champ. After packing up my computer and TV, my phone was my only source of entertainment for a good while. At the time of this writing, I have 35% after 14 hours (on track for ~20 hours, if I felt like waiting that long). It was at least moderate usage. ~250 texts, frequent messaging via gTalk and Facebook Messenger, SNESoid gaming, a Billiards game I like to play, 25 minutes in phone calls, over 2 hours in screen on time with about 60% of my day spent on WiFi and 40% on 3G. Includes some random web browsing (I recovered my Xbox Live password with my phone browser and checked my bank account a couple of times), app updates, and general phone stuff. Screen shots below:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
What truly impressed me, though, is the temperature. I'd expect something so thin to vent heat well, but I also expected to get warm. It simply didn't happen. Once I put my CPU clock back to regular 1.5, my phone was an ice cube all day long, dropping down to as low as 20C, or 68F. My computer doesn't get that cool when it's turned off and tossed in the now in the snow. Admittedly, I wouldn't know, since I've never done something so stupid as to toss my computer in the snow. Screen shot below:
TL;DR (performance): I got a 6400 on Quadrant running MeanROM overclocked at 1.7GHz. My emulators run at 60fps and they stay there. My phone hasn't risen above 30C since I first turned it on (minus 5 minutes when I was restoring apps via titanium backup and when I flashed the custom ROM).
Call Quality:
I got 3 phone calls. They were all loud, clear, and wonderful. Didn't have to max out my speaker volume like with prior devices.
WiFi/3G/4G:
WiFi connects quickly and I don't lose signal ever. 3G is almost 2 times faster than it was on the Epic 4G Touch (in speedtest.net tests I neglected to screen shot. I got 300kbps down on Epic Touch, 550kbps down on EVO LTE...not great numbers but still better is better. Obviously YMMV). I have no 4G LTE where I live (damn you Sprint).
*Added*
Music Quality:
This is my first phone with Beats enabled. I freaking love it. I mostly use my phone to listen to music while in the car. Beats itself is a tad bassy, but I used my car's equalizer (primitive as it may be) to dial down the bass a bit and I got one of the fullest, best music experiences I've ever had with an Android phone. I blame it all on Beats, but hey this phone has it lol.
Root Stuff:
Creating a backup in TWRP 2.3.1 took 133 seconds (about twice as fast as it does on the Galaxy Nexus as of TWRP 2.2, I never tested on TWRP so it could be faster now for the Nexus). Restoring 45 user apps in titanium backup was faster than I've ever seen it go. I haven't had to restore a backup yet, but I imagine it's much quicker than I'm accustomed to. The S-Off process looks like it's going to be a lot of fun (currently just HTCdev unlocked) and I can't wait to try that out. I might make a video or something, who knows.
My pros:
1. Quick as hell.
2. Cool as hell (in both looks and actual, literal temperature)
3. Handles all games, all tasks, and all nonsense well.
4. My goodness I missed having a kickstand.
5. No connectivity problems (signal, data, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc)
6. Battery lasts for a really long time considering I used it more today than I ever will in a single day until I move again.
7. Great HTC build quality.
8. Sense 4.1 = best HTC Sense ever (it's still bloated, but not nearly as bad as older Sense)
My Cons:
1. Non removable battery isn't that bad, but I'd still like to battery pull when I need to.
2. Charging to 90% takes like 30 minutes. Charging from 90% to 100% takes twice that long for some reason.
3. Facebook as a system app? Oh hells nah!
4. That plastic back plate is ugly. And a finger print magnet. And it called my mom fat.
5. It doesn't pay my taxes for me.
Summary:
This is definitely among the top 3 best phones I've ever owned right up there with the OG EVO and the Galaxy Nexus. I include the OG EVO because it has one of the greatest dev communities ever. this phone doesn't have that huge dev community, but the devs we do have are talented and awesome (I know, I write about them quite frequently). Can't wait to start flashing random things and see what I can make this phone do.
Thanks for reading, don't forget to tell me how stupid it was and rate the thread a 1 star lol.
TL;DR
Please keep your crappy opinions to yourself.
(just kidding)
Thanks for the post and for reminding me why I love my EVO so much! If you like MeanROM, you should really give ViperROM a try, it runs like the road runner and has glorious customizations.
And, if you're not a huge fan of the Sense camera and wouldn't mind using an AOSP camera, definitely try the Paranoid Android ROM. You'll be surprised how versatile our EVO can be combining our awesome screen with the ability to customize how apps are displayed (each individual app can be run with a different DPI and in a separate workspace like tablet mode or regular phone mode)
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I plan on trying all the ROMs eventually. I needed something trustworthy and stable because I moved the day after I got this so I didn't have time to really troubleshoot potential issues with the more experimental stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it
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Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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i want to sell my htc evo 4g lte..
because.. im moving to lumia 920..
just only one reasion..
because i cant play youtube player on my htc evo lte 4g..
this bad...
jan_set said:
i want to sell my htc evo 4g lte..
because.. im moving to lumia 920..
just only one reasion..
because i cant play youtube player on my htc evo lte 4g..
this bad...
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Y you moving to lumia?
FinZ28 said:
Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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Get the S3, EVO radios have too many issues especially with LTE. If you have no plans to use it for LTE in 2 years, and live in a very saturated signal area it is a great phone.
digiblur said:
Get the S3, EVO radios have too many issues especially with LTE. If you have no plans to use it for LTE in 2 years, and live in a very saturated signal area it is a great phone.
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I've been reading about those issues. I've also been looking to see when LTE is coming to my area (Birmingham, AL) and it's not on the list of upcoming cities to even get it. Of course, we never officially got Wimax, but parts of the city have it.
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AbsolutZeroGI all we need now is myn to cook warm 4.0 for us and ill revamp warmblood for it. good to see you again bro. welcome to the LTE.
FinZ28 said:
I've been reading about those issues. I've also been looking to see when LTE is coming to my area (Birmingham, AL) and it's not on the list of upcoming cities to even get it. Of course, we never officially got Wimax, but parts of the city have it.
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Every native Sprint city will get it.
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Every native Sprint city will get it.
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Oh, I know. It's just a matter of time.
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FinZ28 said:
Nice to read this. I'm due for an upgrade in about two weeks and I've been debating between the EVO LTE and SGS III. I'm leaning towards the EVO as it stands right now. I've had a chance to play with both and I've also read some online comparisons. Both seem to be great phones.
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They are both fantastic phones and it's going to be really tough getting an objective opinion on either of them (fanbois will be fanbois). For my purposes, I live in a saturated 3G area with no immediately 4G plans coming (although I do get WiMAX). I've experienced exactly 0 radio problems ever but I've also only had it for like a week. I got this phone because:
1. People on eBay, XDA Marketplace, Craigslist, etc seem to think that the Galaxy S III is worth $100 more than the EVO LTE when it's almost identical hardware (1GB of extra RAM and .05 inches of extra screen space is not a justifiable reason to charge an extra $100, even Motorola knows that).
2. I've missed having good build quality along with good specs. My last 3 devices were Samsung phones and while the phones are nice and sleek and gorgeous, it just irritated me that my phone was made entirely out of the same material as most children's toys. It's strictly a personal preference and I advise not making a decision based on it...but yknow. Other than build quality, OEM skin (TW vs Sense), that extra 1GB of RAM and that .05 inches of extra screen, there is literally no difference between these phones. Both have excellent 8MP shooters, both have the S4 dual core processor clocked to 1.5GHz, both have HD screens, both have front facing cameras, neither use on-screen buttons, and they both have those "little features" like NFC. So when it came down to it, I decided I'd rather have build quality over an extra gig of RAM (that I'll probably never use since I"m a kill app-aholic) and an extra .05 inches of screen (because, yknow, you can tell the difference). For others, they may want the extra gig of RAM...depends on what they want.
You can't go wrong either way, especially since you have an upgrade due and you'll get charged (closer to) fair prices for these phones instead of the ridiculous prices owners online are asking for. Best of luck and I hope you make the best decision for what you need and want. Don't let fanboyism get in the way!
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AbsolutZeroGI all we need now is myn to cook warm 4.0 for us and ill revamp warmblood for it. good to see you again bro. welcome to the LTE.
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Thank you sir! I'd love to see some Warm goodness and some warmblood goodness as well One of the best themes from the EVO 4G. There's a few devs who's names I recognize and I'm glad to see you hanging out in these forums! I need to go hunting to see if you've released anything
PoorCollegeGuy said:
They are both fantastic phones and it's going to be really tough getting an objective opinion on either of them (fanbois will be fanbois). For my purposes, I live in a saturated 3G area with no immediately 4G plans coming (although I do get WiMAX). I've experienced exactly 0 radio problems ever but I've also only had it for like a week. I got this phone because:
1. People on eBay, XDA Marketplace, Craigslist, etc seem to think that the Galaxy S III is worth $100 more than the EVO LTE when it's almost identical hardware (1GB of extra RAM and .05 inches of extra screen space is not a justifiable reason to charge an extra $100, even Motorola knows that).
2. I've missed having good build quality along with good specs. My last 3 devices were Samsung phones and while the phones are nice and sleek and gorgeous, it just irritated me that my phone was made entirely out of the same material as most children's toys. It's strictly a personal preference and I advise not making a decision based on it...but yknow. Other than build quality, OEM skin (TW vs Sense), that extra 1GB of RAM and that .05 inches of extra screen, there is literally no difference between these phones. Both have excellent 8MP shooters, both have the S4 dual core processor clocked to 1.5GHz, both have HD screens, both have front facing cameras, neither use on-screen buttons, and they both have those "little features" like NFC. So when it came down to it, I decided I'd rather have build quality over an extra gig of RAM (that I'll probably never use since I"m a kill app-aholic) and an extra .05 inches of screen (because, yknow, you can tell the difference). For others, they may want the extra gig of RAM...depends on what they want.
You can't go wrong either way, especially since you have an upgrade due and you'll get charged (closer to) fair prices for these phones instead of the ridiculous prices owners online are asking for. Best of luck and I hope you make the best decision for what you need and want. Don't let fanboyism get in the way!
Thank you sir! I'd love to see some Warm goodness and some warmblood goodness as well One of the best themes from the EVO 4G. There's a few devs who's names I recognize and I'm glad to see you hanging out in these forums! I need to go hunting to see if you've released anything
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Currently only sinister LTE. Got a lot of stuff almost ready for release on the pc though.
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So, I ran antutu yesterday after I unlocked/rooted my phone, and I got a score of 19,168.
According to the "Bar chart", it trumps any other phone out right now... see attachment.
Thoughts??
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My thoughts are that this is one sexy phone
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
They updated it with more tests, everyone's should be higher now. I got 21k yesterday... can't seem to replicate it though, keep getting a little over 19k. As for the fastest phone, probably, haven't seen anything to prove otherwise...
Edit: Here's a screenshot.
Tomatoes8 said:
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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Yeah that's what I thought, the DNA has almost twice the render area that 720p devices have...
20997 on the first shot. gotta love it
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Tomatoes8 said:
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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let me know when this happens...
Tomatoes8 said:
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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That is apples to oranges then. They don't test gaming hardware at different resolutions then claim the kit running 320x240 must be faster than the kit running 1080p. DNA would be the best phone on the market with a proper SD slot and HTCdev official support.
It's also hard not to mock the folks claiming it is fraudulent to return the phone for sketchy reasons. Verizon and it's competitors fleece you daily, then take their profits overseas. By all means, continue to stick up for them.
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//coming from motorola droid x2... dna is amazing
Tomatoes8 said:
Definitely not. No matter what the benchmarks say, logic still exists. The Nexus 4, padfone 2, and optimus G(once it gets jellybean) will all perform better due to the fact that these phones push a lot less pixels and have the exact same internals. Most videos already show differences in performance.
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Not necessarily. Antutu runs at 720P. I would not expect benches to differ much between them at all.
As for performance, the 320 isn't even sweating 720P. I certainly dn't see it chugging at 1080P. So in real performance, I'd say it won't be much different.
cast_also said:
That is apples to oranges then. They don't test gaming hardware at different resolutions then claim the kit running 320x240 must be faster than the kit running 1080p. DNA would be the best phone on the market with a proper SD slot and HTCdev official support.
It's also hard not to mock the folks claiming it is fraudulent to return the phone for sketchy reasons. Verizon and it's competitors fleece you daily, then take their profits overseas. By all means, continue to stick up for them.
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//coming from motorola droid x2... dna is amazing
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If you bend over and spread them for Verizon, its your fault. Don't blame Verizon for obliging you and burying it in deep.
You turning around and playing pitcher, making Verizon the catcher doesn't make it less gay, no mater what you tell yourself.
Yeah I got this one here. Crazy man
Linpack haven't seen many this high
Not an iPhone.....
On a vid comparing the optimums g vs DNA LG got 5670 on quadrant and DNA got 7890 I think. How is that they both have same internals. I assume it's because LG is not running JB and because HTC knows how to build phones.
Ndaoud360 said:
On a vid comparing the optimums g vs DNA LG got 5670 on quadrant and DNA got 7890 I think. How is that they both have same internals. I assume it's because LG is not running JB and because HTC knows how to build phones.
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There is no way to know where the discrepancies show, unless you break it down by category.
Most benchmarks Ive found on the web for the Nexus 4/Optimus G have been alot lower than my Optimus G AT&T that I recently acquired. I suspect its somewhat due to thermal throttling issues and people running too many benchmarks back to back. Although the Nexus 4 does appear to benchmark lower overall (but perform just as well); the Optimus G is right up there with the DNA.
Antutu: 21666
Quadrant: 7604
CF Bench: 18323
Geekbench 2: 2162
i dont agree with that m, major jump in performance im ive made a point to pay attention to that between all builds on my evo lte and i9300 and the outcome is minor in them maybe they did something different in these devices but i really dont see them taking it from the dna at this point
Here is the Nexus 4 owning it even while using chrome. Imagine how badly the thrashing would be if they used Dolphin or Boat for both like they should have. I have no idea why websites continue to run browser benchmarks on Chrome for flagship Android devices.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4
Tomatoes8 said:
Here is the Nexus 4 owning it even while using chrome. Imagine how badly the thrashing would be if they used Dolphin or Boat for both like they should have. I have no idea why websites continue to run browser benchmarks on Chrome for flagship Android devices.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4
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Stop spreading fud. There was no owning in that video.
Let me guess. You skimmed the video and forwarded to about the 10:38 mark and thought, omg, pwnage!
Go back about 12 seconds to 10:26 to the beginning of the test and see that the DNA had loaded the site but was in the mobile version. He switched it to the full version, which caused it to reload while the N4 was sitting there loaded.
Or you referring to the test at 12:09, where the N4 initially loaded first, but the DNA finished the entire loading process first?
There was no owning in that video at all. It was all very, very close, with some giving one way, and some giving another. Watch the full video please.
adrynalyne said:
Stop spreading fud. There was no owning in that video.
Let me guess. You skimmed the video and forwarded to about the 10:38 mark and thought, omg, pwnage!
Go back about 12 seconds to 10:26 to the beginning of the test and see that the DNA had loaded the site but was in the mobile version. He switched it to the full version, which caused it to reload while the N4 was sitting there loaded.
Or you referring to the test at 12:09, where the N4 initially loaded first, but the DNA finished the entire loading process first?
There was no owning in that video at all. It was all very, very close, with some giving one way, and some giving another. Watch the full video please.
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Are we watching the same video? I watched it and the Nexus 4 won almost every test and with the worst browser ever to boot. If that is not own age, I don't know what is.
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Are we watching the same video? I watched it and the Nexus 4 won almost every test and with the worst browser ever to boot. If that is not own age, I don't know what is.
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Apparently not. Check what you linked. I had someone else watch it as well to make sure I wasn't imagining it.
I think you need to review the video again.
Some tests were faster on N4, some on DNA. A blink of an eye's difference in either direction doesn't constitute pwnage either.
First test: DNA was faster, but went to mobile site. He reloaded as full site but did not test again. Winner = ???
Second test: tap and pinch to zoom. Review comments: "About equal" for tap to zoom. Pinch to zoom was smoother and better on DNA.
Third test: checkerboard pattern when scrolling. Both very smooth, per video and reviewer.
Fourth test, another website. N4 starts out in the lead, and the DNA finishes first. Reviewer confirmed it.
Fifth test: Video on a page: Nexus 4 was a blink of an eye faster. Hardly pwnage.
Sixth test: The verge. DNA went to mobile site. He went to full site, but did not retest. Winner???
Seventh test: Scrolling. Both were smooth.
Eighth test: Pinch to zoom. N4 slightly faster, but barely. Not pwnage.
Reviewer comments at 13:58 regarding web browsing: "Its really a draw."
Lack of pwnage confirmed by me watching a 3rd time, and even quoting the reviewer.
In the areas the N4 was faster, it was a blink of an eye. Same for the ones that the DNA was faster in.
Faster in some, slower in others. Your idea of ownage is askew.
The disparity of the reviewer reloading pages into their full version while the N4 had it loaded already does not count as ownage.
Yeah, they added an extra 3D test recently that bumps the score up quite a bit. As an apples to apples comparison, I ran a test on the older Antutu app and got around 14,500 which was still very impressive, considering the most I ever got out of any of my other rooted (overclocked) HTC phones (Evo3d & Rezound) was about 7,000.
Very impressive phone, but I'm sure that's also why my battery life is suffering.
Sent from a Droid DNA using the xda app.