Issues Post Root - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright, I'm having some issues with root.
Let's backup and give a little context incase it might help in the diagnosis.
I picked up my TB on launch day then I upgraded to the leaked .09 two or three days ago. Last night I decided to root. So I followed the steps in the root thread without any problem. When I rebooted at the end of it all I installed SetCPU and configured the profiles without any problem. I then installed titanium backup and adfree. I ran adfree and cleared the ads without any issues so then I loaded titanium backup and granted it su access however the app said 'failed' to achieve root when it loaded.
I then rebooted the phone. SetCPU failed to get su access, titanium backup failed to get su access. I then downloaded WiFi tether and drocap2 and they failed to get access. So I rebooted again. This time WiFi tehther and drocap2 got acceess and I even took a screenshot with dropcap2 and turned on WiFi tether. Ok, so I'm happy.
Loaded up Titanium backup again, again it failed to achieve root. So I go back to SetCPU and it fails to achieve root as well.
It's almost like there is a time limit on launching apps with root access once the phone boots before it reverts to non-root access.
The phone itself is working fine, I verified S-OFF by booting into recovery. It just doesn't seem root wants to "stick" when the phone is booted.
So I rebooted again just testing a wild theory I had in my head... and everything is working. Apparently, if I load Titanium Backup is blows root up. No idea why... but all other root apps work as long as I don't load Titantium Backup.
Thoughts?

try flashing a new version of busybox via titanium backup worked like a charm for me

Check out Working Superuser for TB Sense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003088

I don't think setcpu is gonna work without a custom kernel....
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feedhead said:
Check out Working Superuser for TB Sense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003088
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This fixed the issue I was having.
I was having the same issue as the OP but ROM Manager was the app blowing out SU.

Crimton said:
I don't think setcpu is gonna work without a custom kernel....
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It works ... the stock kernel (and the few variants that are here - which basically just address adb root) have 4 steps from 245 -> 1000, and just a few governors.
I created profiles to ramp it up while charging, and to slow it down when the screen's off.
Works fine...
can't want for HTC to release source and see what the kernel gods make of it

feedhead said:
Check out Working Superuser for TB Sense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003088
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I had to download this and install appinstaller... delete my superuser and install this apk just to get rooted but works like a charm

Ok, I updated my su apk with the one attached above and now it prevents Titantium Backup from borking root but Titantium still doesn't work.
I tried uninstalling Titanium and reinstalling and no go... wierd.

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Superuser is gone!

I'm using BAMF and I just noticed superuser is gone. I tried granting root access to Titan backup and it doesn't work.. wtf? Any help would be awesome
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Try manually flashing the 2.3.6.3efgh Superuser zip from recovery.
You can find it here http://goo.gl/VjOjR
Thanks but that still didn't work.. now what
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Honestly, that should have worked. Are you sure it flashed (said successful in recovery)? I'm not personally familiar with BAMF so I don't know if they have some custom way of hiding it or anything.
It's not listed in the drawer correct?
Is it listed under Manage Applications (All)? If so, force stop and clear its data.
Is Su.apk in /system/app and su in /system/xbin?
There was a signature problem around the time 2.1 was first released where some people lost superuser and had to flash 2.0.3 but honestly, that should be fixed now so it shouldn't be that unless there's something you may have done that you didn't mention. I suppose if it comes down to it you could try some older versions of Superuser.
Other than that, I'm not sure how you'd get it back without restoring a nandroid or reflashing the rom but flashing the su zip should have accomplished that.
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Just thought...check to see if Superuser shows up in your Market and will let you install. If su is already installed and just broken, that may fix it. Worth a shot anyway.
Absolute_Zero said:
Honestly, that should have worked. Are you sure it flashed (said successful in recovery)? I'm not personally familiar with BAMF so I don't know if they have some custom way of hiding it or anything.
It's not listed in the drawer correct?
Is it listed under Manage Applications (All)? If so, force stop and clear its data.
Is Su.apk in /system/app and su in /system/xbin?
There was a signature problem around the time 2.1 was first released where some people lost superuser and had to flash 2.0.3 but honestly, that should be fixed now so it shouldn't be that unless there's something you may have done that you didn't mention. I suppose if it comes down to it you could try some older versions of Superuser.
Other than that, I'm not sure how you'd get it back without restoring a nandroid or reflashing the rom but flashing the su zip should have accomplished that.
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Just thought...check to see if Superuser shows up in your Market and will let you install. If su is already installed and just broken, that may fix it. Worth a shot anyway.
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Wow. I feel dumb. I got it fixed. I just went in with root explorer and deleted the superuser file first. Then flash the file you sent me and boom. Worked. Thank you very much for your time
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[Q] cannot uninstall bloat with full s-off root =(

so i have s-off, root, custom recovery , the works......but y cant i UNINSTALL stupid bloat? i can disable, but not uninstall via an app like my 4gevo ........is me just stupid?
Hummm. Well what have you tried so far???? As in apps??
Locked & Loaded
did you already flash the su zip or a rooted rom?
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Get Root Explorer and use that, or if you're not sure and need to make sure you have root access just download busybox from the market and it will check to see if you have root, that's a fast way to determine if your root access is functioning or not.
unslav3d said:
so i have s-off, root, custom recovery , the works......but y cant i UNINSTALL stupid bloat? i can disable, but not uninstall via an app like my 4gevo ........is me just stupid?
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Just install Root Explorer from market..then go to system>app> and click and hold on what u want removed and then click delete(If it says it cant be deleted the click where it says write r/o or write r/w up top i always get them confused..lol..then do it again it then they will delete no problem) I just got rid of a crapload of bloat this way..hope it helps
nice thanx guys, yeah i figured it just wasnt as easy as using system app uninstaller n **** =* lol
and yes im all rooted for shizzle n junk and got paid foreman rate on a construction site to do it , while it rained, ****ING GREAT DAY
i wonder why that is though.......ya know?
for clarification, no app uninstaller for root is working for ne one els then right?
unslav3d said:
i wonder why that is though.......ya know?
for clarification, no app uninstaller for root is working for ne one els then right?
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Every root app should work except ones that depend on kernel mods (i. e. market version of Wireless Tether). I used Root Explorer and Titanium Backup to take care of my bloat and all went well.
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I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware. Worked perfect
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Yup tb and re worked fine for me as well.
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I still can't get tb working. All other root apps are fine. Flashed toasts Su an still no joy
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Go to the development section and search for Vipermod, that's the best way to uninstall the bloat
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laie1472 said:
Yup tb and re worked fine for me as well.
Locked & Loaded
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I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware but the icons/shorcuts are still there in the app drawer.
DarkManX4lf said:
I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware but the icons/shorcuts are still there in the app drawer.
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Nevermind, I used viperboy scripts and a reboot later and the bloatware is gone from the app drawer as well. I'm not sure if it was viperboy scripts or titanium backup that removed it from the app drawer but a reboot helped.
DarkManX4lf said:
Nevermind, I used viperboy scripts and a reboot later and the bloatware is gone from the app drawer as well. I'm not sure if it was viperboy scripts or titanium backup that removed it from the app drawer but a reboot helped.
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Glad you got it worked out
Locked & Loaded
Running into strange issue.
Have complete root. Using root explorer, root user granted.
When i first go into the program I can set to R/W. However, once R/W is set and then I go into the system folder it goes back to R/O. If I back out to the first page it goes back to R/W.
It's very weird that it'll only stay R/W on some folders and not others.
Any ideas what might cause this?
UPDATE: I uninstalled root explorer and downloaded ES File Explorer. Gave ES root permissions, and hurrayyyy. I can delete the bloatware.

Miui 1.9.2.3- No Root!

Ok, I had been running miui v1.9.3.0 but it had too many glitches and bugs, so I downgraded to v1.9.2.3 and soon realized that titanium backup no longer works, due to no root access. I've gone into superuser and turned on the superuser permissions, i've tried reflashing, rebooting, using Odin and going back to stock and reflashing... everything! But whenever I use titanium backup, "no root access"! What happened?! Please, someone help...
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remove everything and anything that relates to superuser. use rootexplorer or something and search it, and then remove everything, and then odin.
Then root using superoneclick or something like that.
That may do the trick.
maybe you had like a bad binary or something? idk
Can you tell me the directories to look for?
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N00B_IN_N33D said:
Can you tell me the directories to look for?
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I honestly don't know either, i'd just search the whole phone. Remove anything with superuser on it.
xriderx66 said:
I honestly don't know either, i'd just search the whole phone. Remove anything with superuser on it.
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Grrrr... I still can't find any SU related files and folders and I have a question. Shouldn't using Odin to go back to stock fix this issue? I've repeatedly flashed back to stock in hopes of resolving this issue but none of my attempts worked...
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Grrrr... I still can't find any SU related files and folders and I have a question. Shouldn't using Odin to go back to stock fix this issue? I've repeatedly flashed back to stock in hopes of resolving this issue but none of my attempts worked...
ADDITIONAL INFO: Also, the reason for this issue could be because I tried to update superuser with an app in the market and another bit of info is that although Titanium Backup and some other root apps don't work, SetCPU and a few other root apps do work. So I'm in a vey confusing situation.
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Oh...
Uhm, a question, the stock odin files that you have, are they TOTAL stock? like no root? or is it one of the rooted ones?
Can you go back into the market, go into superuser, and try to uninstall it? or go into settings>applications> and then go into superuser and it should say like undo update or something? Maybe those can fix?
Has titanium backup been allowed superuser before? Has SetCPU been allowed superuser before? If it has been done before, that may be why some work and some don't.
Yes, they should be totally stock. I downloaded them from "s15274n". And also, I'm not sure if you're familiar with MIUI but it has its own version of superuser that comes with it that's different from the one downloaded from the market... So this is a very confusing problem... Also, Titanium did work before and I never had issues until I tried updating the SU bianary and busybox. It seems as if odin isn't cleaning up everything, but I'm not sure... I made a big mistake thinking that the market SU app could update MIUI's SU bianary and now I can't seem to truly start from scratch...
This is a feature, I assume, as MIUI will soon be preinstalled on phones (MI-One). All you need to do is go into the Super User app after flashing MIUI, hit menu -> settings (I think) and check to enable root.
No ODIN, no reflash, just that. It's not just the Vibrant, and I think it's the new norm for MIUI.
That's the thing though, I've already turned on superuser in it's settings. I'm not sure what to do...
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Then that's just weird. Try reverting a few weeks? I understand the last 2-3 weeks has been pretty bad.
uninstall Titanium Backup and Reinstall Via Market. Titanium can bug out when you restore it via backup or when you try using it after a OS update
also verify your Superuser App (the one thats preinstalled in Miui) Has both "Manage Permissions, and Root Permissions" Enabled
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uninstall Titanium Backup and Reinstall Via Market. Titanium can bug out when you restore it via backup or when you try using it after a OS update
also verify your Superuser App (the one thats preinstalled in Miui) Has both "Manage Permissions, and Root Permissions" Enabled
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he prob. Forgot to enable root permissions.
Actually, I did have root permissions enabled. But when I restored titanium and other root apps with miui's built in backup/restore utility I guess it just made them glitchy. Uninstalling and reinstalling all the apps that need root solved the problem. Thanks "boystuff"!
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[SOLVED] Titanium backup problems on the Mediapad

I can't use titanium backup anymore, everytime i run the app i get this:
Code:
Error
Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges. This application will *NOT* work!
Please verify that your ROM is rooted and includes Busybox, and try again
This attempt was made using the "/system/xbin/su" command
I'im running HWMOD's rooted firmware, with superuser "installed and updated", and also busybox "installed and updated". there's nothing wrong, but somehow i can't run titanium backup anymore somehow.
what can be the problem be please, i've googled it and i got no solutions whatsoever!
run the app root checker.
Also from someone who has been there, i dont think titanium works with our unit. Our unit has sd1 and sd2 and sd3. Titanium will backup to sd1, which is internal memory, you can see where this is going. I did a titanium backup, then full wipe, and lost everything because it was not backed up onto sd2...
nightanole said:
run the app root checker.
Also from someone who has been there, i dont think titanium works with our unit. Our unit has sd1 and sd2 and sd3. Titanium will backup to sd1, which is internal memory, you can see where this is going. I did a titanium backup, then full wipe, and lost everything because it was not backed up onto sd2...
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I don't have to run ROOT CHECKER because i have already other root apps and they function flawlessly (SD maid, quick boot, Busybox installer...) but i run the ROOT CHECKER anyway and it says i do have root privileges.
i forgot to mention that i already used Titanium B to backup apps and data, everything was stored on the external sd card. i could also restore. after all this app is for all android devices.
hamdimo said:
I can't use titanium backup anymore, everytime i run the app i get this:
Code:
Error
Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges. This application will *NOT* work!
Please verify that your ROM is rooted and includes Busybox, and try again
This attempt was made using the "/system/xbin/su" command
I'im running HWMOD's rooted firmware, with superuser "installed and updated", and also busybox "installed and updated". there's nothing wrong, but somehow i can't run titanium backup anymore somehow.
what can be the problem be please, i've googled it and i got no solutions whatsoever!
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Hi
Also running HWMOD's rooted firmware and Titanium Backup works perfectly well or me. I also have an
Advent Vega and I was able to transfer my SD card from it to the Media pad and restore apps from my Titanium
Backup on it to the Media pad.
Stransky
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Stransky said:
Hi
Also running HWMOD's rooted firmware and Titanium Backup works perfectly well or me. I also have an
Advent Vega and I was able to transfer my SD card from it to the Media pad and restore apps from my Titanium
Backup on it to the Media pad.
Stransky
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that's what makes the app perfect, BACKUP and RESTORE between different android devices.
have you updated superuser? this seems to have been the cause. Titanium Backup was working fine before I updated superuser and error message is the same as yours. currently i'm using MyBackups.
you can check HWMOD's thread for details as somone also has him about this already.
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ferdz33 said:
have you updated superuser? this seems to have been the cause. Titanium Backup was working fine before I updated superuser and error message is the same as yours. currently i'm using MyBackups.
you can check HWMOD's thread for details as somone also has him about this already.
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I solved it, the problem is that titaniumbackup is using the "/system/bin/su" command but the SU binaries are actualy installed in "/system/xbin/"
what i did is going to BUSYBOX and from there switching the install location to "/system/xbin/"
i tried "mybackups" but i prefer TB
hamdimo said:
I solved it, the problem is that titaniumbackup is using the "/system/bin/su" command but the SU binaried are actualy installed in "/system/xbin/"
what i did is going to BUSYBOX and from there switching the install location to "/system/xbin/"
i tried "mybackups" but i prefer TB
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thanks hamdimo! will try your solution when I get home later.
btw, HWMOD just released HWMOD kernel 3.0.42 + custom updates and this issue was also addressed.
ferdz33 said:
thanks hamdimo! will try your solution when I get home later.
btw, HWMOD just released HWMOD kernel 3.0.42 + custom updates and this issue was also addressed.
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I fear that my hack could led to believe that searching for the "su" binary only in predefined positions is a good thing ...
I still believe applications should gather the correct informations from the PATH environment variable, as good ol' *NIX does.
But as you said it's kind of addressed, let's hope the hack will have a story
These problems arise only if one updates the "Superuser" application past the 3.0.7 (with "su" binary 3.0.3.2).
That one version is the latest one working as expected.
And yes I am a bit sceptical about my own choice of including 3.1.3 instead of the 3.0.7 in my latest update.
The "su" binary executable alone has grown from a mere 22Kb to 380Kb and "apk" has doubled it's size too (1.5Mb).
Related to these changes in "Superuser" several applications does not work any more for many users and upgrades are needed.
The process of getting "root" privileges for any application has turned tremendously slow. From almost immediate to 2/3 secs. each time.
this solution worked for me
Since superuser is working and granting root permissions to other apps (except TB). Using root explorer, I tried renaming the original su file from /system/bin/su and replacing it (copy-paste) with the su file from /system/xbin
Reloaded TB and it worked =)
Actually i have no problem in my 1st install for titanium backup. but soe how i uninstall accidentally. when i reinstall, it prompt memory not enough but i hve abt 3.5 gb left. my fone is rooted S3. can anybody help. tks in advanced...

[Q] Root Question

So I have the HTC Evo 4G LTE and i upgraded to the 3.16 update. Ran QBKING77's root and unlock method and everything worked great, my question is, i was using the phone and ran my backup of titanium and after i did that it said that i lost root access, so i did the twrp recovery (2.4.1) and reset the phone to right after the unlock, i deleted the titanium backup i had and downloaded all my apps and settings again manually, If i use Root checker basic (one with a white background and hashtag with a green checkmark) it says i have root access, if i use Root Checker (with blue android) it says i do not, if i try to use titanium backup it says i do not have root, but every other root program i have works fine and says i have root access, ROM Toolbox Pro works just fine...how do i get Titanium Backup to work???
edit- this is the error i get with titanium backup: sorry, i could not acquire root privileges. This application will *not* work! Please verify that your ROM is rooted, and try again. This attempt was made using the "/system/xbin/su" command
What rom are you on?? Also you can try to update your su app from within the app or flash the su zip found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
to see if it will resolve the issue. Also what version of titanium backup are you using? You should have the option to hit the problems button and download a reliable version of busy box from within the titanium backup app. If not and your running a stock rom then download busybox from the play store, install latest ver and see if it helps.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
laie1472 said:
What rom are you on?? Also you can try to update your su app from within the app or flash the su zip found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
to see if it will resolve the issue. Also what version of titanium backup are you using?
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Using the stock ROM, didn't flash anything, Using TB Version 6.01, and SuperuserSU Pro.
tonyevo52 said:
Using the stock ROM, didn't flash anything, Using TB Version 6.01, and SuperuserSU Pro.
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Have you checked if Super SU is granting titanium backup root access?
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Download busybox from the play store, run the app and get latest ver of busy box, clear data on tb, reboot, and see if you still get the error. If so try flashing the su zip from the link. If that's a no go I'd recommend backing up your data via other apps, making a nand & flashing a stock rooted rom.
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alpha_mau5 said:
Have you checked if Super SU is granting titanium backup root access?
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It says it has access, says grant, but now the root checker basic i was using says i do not have access, restarting to see if i can change it, when i start SuperuserSU, it say i need to update the binaries and when i hit ok, it says installing and then operation failed and starts the program. As well, anything that has been granted access, a little black popup shell shows at the bottom of the screen real quick saying that super setcpu has been granted root access for the interactive shell?
I have tried two versions of busybox, busybox free which tells me there was a problem opening a shell with root access and then closes and i tried busybox installer which says device is rooted but when i hit install it says that instillation failed.
Im on the stock rom from the 3.16 update, everything i have read is that i would not be able to flash a rom because of compatibility issues and i the 3.16RUU is not available for download anywhere..and just FYI, still fairly new to rooting, but learning!
Thanks
Thanks 72, I flashed the SU Update 1.04 from your link and its working perfect now, good to go...take care. Hopefully it stays rooted!
tonyevo52 said:
Thanks 72, I flashed the SU Update 1.04 from your link and its working perfect now, good to go...take care. Hopefully it stays rooted!
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No prob glad it worked out for you. Also have you read cap's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126626&page=4
Relating to flashing roms for those in your situation?? Check it out, definitely worth it.
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