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Okay, so CM7 is out and everything. I know that the Galaxy S phones aren't close or unknown how far or close we are to finally getting this. I know it might sound dump but my girlfriend just got the mytouch 4g for free and I've been playing with it. I noticed that when you go to settings there is an option for theme selection. Is that how CM works? I see all these themes out there from CM and all of them seem to have that same looking interface when selecting themes. I don't have friends that are into phones as I am so none of them know about this stuff.
Thanks in advance guys!
That is what they incorporated from T-Mobile, who, to their credit has an account on github and gave the code... impressive to t-mobile.
and of course, a lot of people theme for the best rom in town.
So you're saying that T-Mobile integrated the CM theme selector on the stock ROM? So can I just download any of the CM themes and just apply them?
no, not at all.. t-mo had code on github for theming, CM incorporated it into CM7
Ahhh, I see. Any idea how close or far the Galaxy S line is from getting CM7?
there are buggy versions already... source would help, a lot.
I have heard about the source that we need but didn't the update just pop in? I'm using the Bionix-V ROM which is based on the official 2.2. I'm sure that it's the source that we are looking for? I'm not sure where to ask but I want get involved with the community see if I can help out with the CM. I've been looking into the CM7 for the mytouch 4g for my girlfriends phone and I'm really liking it!
Source is not released yet: http://opensource.samsung.com/
s15274n said:
Source is not released yet: http://opensource.samsung.com/
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Yes the recent release was the 959D the Captivate (att) We are still waiting for ours to be released.
oka1 said:
Yes the recent release was the 959D the Captivate (att) We are still waiting for ours to be released.
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Uhh no.. 959d is facinate(telus) it looks just like vibrant (u.s version)
I897 is att ccaptivate.
One more thing, how can they have source code before us when they don't even have 2.2 yet. Att have not release the 2.2 for captivate(u.s)yet. The 2.2 that was released while back was for Canadian captivate( Rogers)
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Until we get the 2.3 source, we will be quite far from CM7, huh?
Can anyone possibly explain to me exactly how CM works though? I don't have anyone that's as enthusiastic as me when it comes to phones. I don't have a phone that has a CM capable ROM. Also, the videos just show the ROM but don't actually show the feature.
All I know is that CM allows you to customize your phone past the limits that are put on it. That being said, does it allow you to customize things individually or do you have to have a fully skinned theme or something along those lines?
Will we ever get a 2.3 source?
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isnt this us? or Is that a different file?
DynamicXL said:
Until we get the 2.3 source, we will be quite far from CM7, huh?
Can anyone possibly explain to me exactly how CM works though? I don't have anyone that's as enthusiastic as me when it comes to phones. I don't have a phone that has a CM capable ROM. Also, the videos just show the ROM but don't actually show the feature.
All I know is that CM allows you to customize your phone past the limits that are put on it. That being said, does it allow you to customize things individually or do you have to have a fully skinned theme or something along those lines?
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Since not many devs are working on it it will take a while. If I'm not wrong if we get 2.2 source it can get ported.
Mytouch 4g and many other phones don't have 2.3 source but they have cm 7. I guess its because this is Samsung first Android phone ( I think) and its more complicated than HTC phones. I could be wrong, after all I know nothing about coding
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isnt this us? or Is that a different file?
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What does it say can't see the picture.
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Since not many devs are working on it it will take a while. If I'm not wrong if we get 2.2 source it can get ported.
Mytouch 4g and many other phones don't have 2.3 source but they have cm 7. I guess its because this is Samsung first Android phone ( I think) and its more complicated than HTC phones. I could be wrong, after all I know nothing about coding
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Yeah, I have noticed that almost all new phones that HTC comes out with, including the mytouch 4g that my girlfriend just got herself, there are a lot of CM themes and ROMs for it. Even though it came out a few months ago, while as Vibrant like half a year ago.
I did look around, it does seem like the Galaxy S line of phones is the first of android for Samsung. I'm thinking this is the biggest reason that they don't have this many developers.
It seems that there a plenty of new Galaxy S phones heading this way, so perhaps there will be more developers for our community.
I would like to help out as much as I can. I am no developer but perhaps I can help out with beta testing and all that fun stuff.
Samsung and HTC are very different... transitioning from one is not the easiest. HTC is certainly easier.
eugene has 6.1 running on his forums
I tried that CM 6.1 and I just couldn't get it to work at all. My CWR would always crash everytime I tried to do it.
On the other hand, I know HTC has been making android phones for some time now, there has been a lot more work and development done with them. Samsung is fairly new, I don't see why in the near future there will be a lot more development for Galaxy S phones, considering that they just announced a new line of these phones this year. Possibly a stable CM mod.
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well until samsung gets off their ass and release source for 2.2 and then 2.3 we will never see true cm6 or cm7 on our phones yes lots of ports but never true cm
I was doing a little bit of surfing and noticed that cyanogen has made a cyanogen 9 version for the galaxy 2 and the nexus s... And I was wondering if it was possible to get this on our phones...
This should be in the general section...
Anyways one day it will
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Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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Right. Moving to General.
jbizz said:
Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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In the meantime, CM7.1 would be nice - but will they just skip over 7.1 for new devices and focus on 9?
Just as a heads up, Max Krivonos posted that he stopped working on CM7 for the amaze and is going straight to CM9,
Double edged sword. Great for CM9 but no CM at all for a few months.
Yea I really miss CM. Wish it would get here asap.
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
Uh... How long has the phone been out?? Let's face that first before complaining about the lack of development... It'd be nice if there was but its not going to happen over night...
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
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Be patient my friend! I think the reason behind (kinda) lacking developtment for this phone is because there will be an ICS came out soon for it in early 2012 and most Devs are waiting for the official Amaze ICS release rather than wasting their time to built rom that would only last for less than two months
On that perspective I am really thankful for Xboarder for his effort to brought us something to satisfied our addictiveness of flashing meanwhile
I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Just trying to keep options out there during our "slow" (see:new) period. Development takes time--Hell, I'm stuck on a macbook until I can save up for a notebook. Once I get that, I'll be able to do real theming/modding. UOT framework feels like a cop-out right now, but it is all that is being offered and we need the activity to draw more people. I have a to-do list of mods I want to do, but until I get my hardware back, it isn't happening.
Ultimately, it is patience. This phone is very new--ICS is around the corner.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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+1.
There is still very much a lot of effort being put in here.
I also am thankful to everyone helping out during our slow period. Although I can't wait for some true aosp action. I absolutely hate sense. It's pretty, but I just prefer aosp
wow man way to talk behind my back look at this:
https://github.com/Xboarder56/android_device_htc_ruby
wasnt gonna release yet but im working on cm7/cm9 compile so dont talk **** when you dont know.
PS: who fixed the recovery problem, me
PS: you compile just a basic recovery, hell port sense 3.5 with working data then talk
pss: just for prove recovery i compile 5.0.2.7 still working on fixing charging bug in this one but you make one of those without cm7 team and then you talk **** man i put hours into working on this **** for you just say that it makes me want to quite becuase you dont understand
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZLPJLUZ1S (5.0.2.7 recovery) happy now
Please refrain from argueing in thread's , take it to a PM . xBoarder doe's all of the work for us so don't even .
oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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its not easy building a device tree but i did build one i still got to find all the libs to get it to compile right but thats the device tree it will compile cm7 just doenst boot all the way right now but it does compile working recoverys
I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
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The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...
Anybody care to hazard a go at getting Honeycombed HTC Sense to the touchpad? now that the source code's been released
What port would they bring? The honeycomb Version from the evo view 4g?
Sense is to incorporated. Into the OS it would be more work than worth.. let along sense is a RAM hog.... it wouldn't be very fast
Sense is bad enough on the phones. Thank the phone Gods for CM7 sent to fix them.
Evo view 4g or the Jetstream one too since the jetstream has the same SoC as the touchpad
I asked about doing this before....people thought
I was crazy
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well the ROM is there....the source is there....Honeycomb source is there aswell
we all know what htc are like when it comes to updates so i'm not expecting ICS till about february
I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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Sense is open now... its sdk is open source lol
And touch wiz. Is bust as useless... its a ui that looks like a kids toy phone... and useless features
I would also like to see this. I love the way sense looks on tablets. I Thought that Leoisright was going to try and do it, but he is doing a Xron version of CM7 right now, so i don't know if he gave it up, but he would be your best bet to ask to do this. Send him a PM and tell him that people do want this. Good luck.
ok before a fist fight breaks out lets just get things down to ground level lol....people prefer cm7 thats fine, doesn't mean bash the fact that it'd be nice to see sense on the touchpad lol
back to the point. if we can get enough people who'd like sense (i'll make a vote thing) then perhaps leo wouldn't mind having a look at this too
I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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A "port" of a is not valid for copy right laws as its just a port... now taking a rom. And slapping sense on it and selling is..
i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
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i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
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I'm conflicted. Would I like to see it, sure why not. Would I like talented developers messing around with Honeycomb anything before ICS is fully ported, uh hell no.
in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
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in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
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Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yh but little else isnt it..... Thats the last i read... Feel free to correct me
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Heh. I thoroughly enjoy Sense. With BinDroid on my Inspire 4G, it doesn't seem that Sense affects it too much.
Agreed. Plus 1
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Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yo, Leo hook us up with some Sense. I know you were talking about it. Do what everybody else won't. Thanks. I will def donate to you if you do this.
http://androidos.in/2012/01/htc-sense-3-6-sensation-ics/
Makes me kind of sad... although I am really looking forwards towards a "sense-less" ICS MOD.
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Makes me kind of sad... although I am really looking forwards towards a "sense-less" ICS MOD.
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I don't think that it'll be too much longer.
Hopefully.
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I don't think that it'll be too much longer.
Hopefully.
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no me neither, hopefully!!!1 One thing HTC has over samsung is releasing updates fast...my brothers vibrant took months and months to go from eclair to froyo!!!
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no me neither, hopefully!!!1 One thing HTC has over samsung is releasing updates fast...my brothers vibrant took months and months to go from eclair to froyo!!!
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I also have the Vibrant and you're right... Samsung does not like releasing updates. I think they have a 1 major update per device cap or something.
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I also have the Vibrant and you're right... Samsung does not like releasing updates. I think they have a 1 major update per device cap or something.
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ya but they have the advantage of being more dev friendly!!! I'm very surprised given the history of HTC, they were basically making phones before any of these guys showed up. and yet there are always problems with their dev community...and make it much harder for the developers to work! I still don't think my brother has gingerbread!
makes me miss my sensation even more,,
I got the ICS update for my WiFi Motorola Xoom middle of last week. The OTA came out about 2 weeks after posts about its testing by a smaller group started popping-up on XDA.
However there are a few big differences here:
1) The Xoom was already on Honeycomb which is a lot closer to ICS than Gingerbread. Hopefully the Galaxy Nexus has developers already working on ICS compatibility. When I first got my Honeycomb tablet a year ago lots of applications had major problems on the new OS.
2) The Xoom is a Google Experience device so no manufacturer overlay to add complexity to the testing.
3) The WiFi Xooms are not tied to a wireless carrier.
My guess is these things are going to increase the test time. Hopefully not by too much. My first guess is a month - really depends on the quality of the early releases.
I thought I read somewhere that the update will be coming in February. But once it's out, and HTC is nice enough to release the stock rom, then we will start seeing stock ics roms with everything working.
HTC will always put Sense on all their roms.
Pretty sure ICS for the Amaze will have Sense, which isn't that bad. I think there are some decent widgets for Sense 3.6.
I hope with sense they won't force us to have that google search bar at the top of our screens