Anybody care to hazard a go at getting Honeycombed HTC Sense to the touchpad? now that the source code's been released
What port would they bring? The honeycomb Version from the evo view 4g?
Sense is to incorporated. Into the OS it would be more work than worth.. let along sense is a RAM hog.... it wouldn't be very fast
Sense is bad enough on the phones. Thank the phone Gods for CM7 sent to fix them.
Evo view 4g or the Jetstream one too since the jetstream has the same SoC as the touchpad
I asked about doing this before....people thought
I was crazy
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well the ROM is there....the source is there....Honeycomb source is there aswell
we all know what htc are like when it comes to updates so i'm not expecting ICS till about february
I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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quarlow said:
I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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Sense is open now... its sdk is open source lol
And touch wiz. Is bust as useless... its a ui that looks like a kids toy phone... and useless features
I would also like to see this. I love the way sense looks on tablets. I Thought that Leoisright was going to try and do it, but he is doing a Xron version of CM7 right now, so i don't know if he gave it up, but he would be your best bet to ask to do this. Send him a PM and tell him that people do want this. Good luck.
ok before a fist fight breaks out lets just get things down to ground level lol....people prefer cm7 thats fine, doesn't mean bash the fact that it'd be nice to see sense on the touchpad lol
back to the point. if we can get enough people who'd like sense (i'll make a vote thing) then perhaps leo wouldn't mind having a look at this too
I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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quarlow said:
I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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A "port" of a is not valid for copy right laws as its just a port... now taking a rom. And slapping sense on it and selling is..
i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
ace9988 said:
i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
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I'm conflicted. Would I like to see it, sure why not. Would I like talented developers messing around with Honeycomb anything before ICS is fully ported, uh hell no.
in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
ace9988 said:
in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
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Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yh but little else isnt it..... Thats the last i read... Feel free to correct me
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Heh. I thoroughly enjoy Sense. With BinDroid on my Inspire 4G, it doesn't seem that Sense affects it too much.
Agreed. Plus 1
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Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yo, Leo hook us up with some Sense. I know you were talking about it. Do what everybody else won't. Thanks. I will def donate to you if you do this.
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Sorry, I'm sure this was probably asked before. Is it drivers or just the parts used? I notice HTC devices seem faster to hack up. I'm going to be upgrading my device sometime in the next 6 months and would love a Galaxy S2 but if the same hardships faced with the Vibe will be present again- I think I might go back to HTC. missmysamoled.jpg
Lol. Again, sorry if this has been beaten to death.
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Samsung lol. That's about the most fact-filled short answer you can get. Their releases are horribly late. Vibrant just got 2.2 OTA, CM is at 2.3.3. HTC has been far more supportive of AOSP as well. Samsung......not so much.
I recently moved to Sprint from T-Mobile and as you can see(sig) got me the Evo. I wish I had waited a few months for the 3d but maybe I'll sell the Evo and do my own upgrade when the time comes. I won't say I'll never buy Samsung again but I will be fully aware of what I am getting if I do.
My best answer.
It has to do with HTC phones run with stock Android and so the devs can work with the new source code faster cause they don't have to deal with proprietary or manufacturer's modded source.
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It has to do with HTC phones run with stock Android and so the devs can work with the new source code faster cause they don't have to deal with proprietary or manufacturer's modded source.
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I thought htc used sense
It's because cyanogen team knows what to do with htc phones plus htc releases source codes unlike samsung.
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I thought htc used sense
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You are correct. The only htc phones I know of that are AOSP are the G2 and N1. That's off the top of my head though.
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There are a lot of differences between how HTC and Samsung do things... these guys also started and know HTC a lot more. HTC IS better about releasing source. Heck, Samsung doesn't release everything even when they do (driver source).
All that said though... I really do not understand why someone has not been able to get a solid RC for us. I honestly do not even know who is working on CM7 for the Vibrant, and it's not officially supported...
I know a lot of progress has been made, but the CM7 we have still has a lot of work to do. Just wish those more in the know could really get that ball rolling, instead of using leaks (esp I9000 leaks which have proven to be terrible on our battery).
I don't know enough, but I know people on here do....
I was doing a little bit of surfing and noticed that cyanogen has made a cyanogen 9 version for the galaxy 2 and the nexus s... And I was wondering if it was possible to get this on our phones...
This should be in the general section...
Anyways one day it will
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Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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Right. Moving to General.
jbizz said:
Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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In the meantime, CM7.1 would be nice - but will they just skip over 7.1 for new devices and focus on 9?
Just as a heads up, Max Krivonos posted that he stopped working on CM7 for the amaze and is going straight to CM9,
Double edged sword. Great for CM9 but no CM at all for a few months.
Yea I really miss CM. Wish it would get here asap.
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
Uh... How long has the phone been out?? Let's face that first before complaining about the lack of development... It'd be nice if there was but its not going to happen over night...
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
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Be patient my friend! I think the reason behind (kinda) lacking developtment for this phone is because there will be an ICS came out soon for it in early 2012 and most Devs are waiting for the official Amaze ICS release rather than wasting their time to built rom that would only last for less than two months
On that perspective I am really thankful for Xboarder for his effort to brought us something to satisfied our addictiveness of flashing meanwhile
I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Just trying to keep options out there during our "slow" (see:new) period. Development takes time--Hell, I'm stuck on a macbook until I can save up for a notebook. Once I get that, I'll be able to do real theming/modding. UOT framework feels like a cop-out right now, but it is all that is being offered and we need the activity to draw more people. I have a to-do list of mods I want to do, but until I get my hardware back, it isn't happening.
Ultimately, it is patience. This phone is very new--ICS is around the corner.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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+1.
There is still very much a lot of effort being put in here.
I also am thankful to everyone helping out during our slow period. Although I can't wait for some true aosp action. I absolutely hate sense. It's pretty, but I just prefer aosp
wow man way to talk behind my back look at this:
https://github.com/Xboarder56/android_device_htc_ruby
wasnt gonna release yet but im working on cm7/cm9 compile so dont talk **** when you dont know.
PS: who fixed the recovery problem, me
PS: you compile just a basic recovery, hell port sense 3.5 with working data then talk
pss: just for prove recovery i compile 5.0.2.7 still working on fixing charging bug in this one but you make one of those without cm7 team and then you talk **** man i put hours into working on this **** for you just say that it makes me want to quite becuase you dont understand
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZLPJLUZ1S (5.0.2.7 recovery) happy now
Please refrain from argueing in thread's , take it to a PM . xBoarder doe's all of the work for us so don't even .
oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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its not easy building a device tree but i did build one i still got to find all the libs to get it to compile right but thats the device tree it will compile cm7 just doenst boot all the way right now but it does compile working recoverys
I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
dingnecros said:
https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...
A very interesting ROM has been posted in the Sensation forum found for HERE by XDA's own Robocik and Capychimp of the RCmix Team. While I know this isn't specific to the Rezound, this certainly pertains to the newer crop of HTC phones scheduled to receive an update to Ice Cream Sandwich.
For anyone who doesn't know about the RcTeam, they provide the some of the most stable ports/bases of the latest leaked RUUs. This ROM happens to be based off of a leaked RUU for the HTC Sensation (a sibling of the Rezound) Android version 4.0.1 (will be updated to 4.0.3 upon official release I suppose) and will provide us with an idea of some the upcoming revisions to HTC Sense in preparation of the highly anicipated release of ICS.
Yes, there may not be much to read but sifting through the thread can provide us with some insight of what we'll get when HTC releases ICS for the newest HTC devices.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-rom-htc-sensation-leaks-out
http://android.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-preparing-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-wi-r137
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=lea...-5-rom-shows-htc-sense-for-ice-cream-sandwich
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phon...ch-on-the-galaxy-nexus-video-and-gallery/7007
Exciting! So close, I can taste the ice cream!
Its wack IMO.
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Its wack IMO.
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LOL. Have you personally used it?
They have to start somewhere obviously. Just as with any development stability first and visual stuff later. Just sayin...
Thanks for sharing. I had no idea.
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blestsol said:
Its wack IMO.
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I won't be using the stock launcher so that really wont bother me.
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LOL. Have you personally used it?
They have to start somewhere obviously. Just as with any development stability first and visual stuff later. Just sayin...
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No but based off what people are saying and the article its nothing new or special and I hate the new bar at the bottom.
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that rosie is god awful. don't touch the damn arc lol that's what i like best about sense, damnit!
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No but based off what people are saying and the article its nothing new or special and I hate the new bar at the bottom.
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I really could care less about the looks. I just want ICS for the performance increases.
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don't touch the damn arc lol that's what i like best about sense, damnit!
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totally agree! I like the added functionality, it was much overdue. But the shape really says "Sense" to me after using it for so long, and it's a shame they'd change it.
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I really could care less about the looks. I just want ICS for the performance increases.
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That's cool, I just wanted to see htc do something fresh and new and add performance improvements.
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I'm tired of the "arc". I like being able to choose a dock style, a la ADW Launcher!
I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
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I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
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I think you're very misled if you think most people want root to disable sense.
There are people that would like to remove Sense tied apps. I like the look and feel, but I don't need 3 twitter apps, lol. They really should consider the "bloat" apps optional. I am sure there are people who prefer Sense Social networking over having different apps, then there are people who prefer using the branded app from the network itself. If they are going to lock us down, we should at least have the ability to pick and choose.
Just sayin...
I'm not going to lie, I'm not too crazy about that dock either but some of you are missing the bigger picture. HTC already has ported Sense over to the ICS framework. This means we could be fairly close to receiving our update. That being said, not only will we benefit from the features of ICS but maybe there will be some loopholes for root. After all, it is a new base for HTC as well.
I find it funny the first mentioned is how "ugly" the dock is instead of the overall features.
In regard to Sense, I enjoy it because after flashing AOSP roms, sometimes I just want things to just work. No using 3rd party apps or anything like that, all stock but with minor tweaks (when rooted of course).
I like then new look, I don't care about the launcher either way as I never use the stock one to begin with.
What I'm really hoping for is for sense to be SLIMMED DOWN. A lot. Sense is just way too bloated compared to Touchwiz or whatever Motorola is calling their new skin.
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Really? Because the most viewed and replied to thread in the Rezound forums deals with disabling the framework of Sense and additional bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367591
My point is, HTC is going to implement the exact same thing in ICS, which is why so many people find the Nexus attractive. It would be an extremely difficult choice for me b/w the Nexus and Rezound if HTC announced it would implement a vanilla android platform for ICS that's bloat free.
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I understand why HTC is implementing sense from a business perspective - it's the only way for manufacturers to differentiate their products. This is why I left the Rezound for the Nexus. HTC will NEVER give users vanilla android. Sense = bloat. Bloat = lag.
And before anyone jumps down my throat - there's a major reason everyone wants perm-root on the Rezound so badly - to stop using Sense! Why else would the temp-root apps that allow you to "de-sense" over in the development forum be so popular?
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If sense equals lag, then why does the nexus lag? I like sense and so do a lot of people that use HTC phones.
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Really? Because the most viewed and replied to thread in the Rezound forums deals with disabling the framework of Sense and additional bloat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367591
My point is, HTC is going to implement the exact same thing in ICS, which is why so many people find the Nexus attractive. It would be an extremely difficult choice for me b/w the Nexus and Rezound if HTC announced it would implement a vanilla android platform for ICS that's bloat free.
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So what about when S-off comes? The Nexus won't be as attractive. The ability to run Vanilla ICS or bloat-free sense will exist. At least the option to switch between the two will be there and we won't be left with just different versions of "Vanilla" ICS which will get old.
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Greetings
Would anyone know if a sense 3.0 ROM could be ported to work on the 4G LTE, I like themed ROM's and not much theming going on with 4.0's stubborn apk's and no m-10 yet either.
I kinda like 3.0 better anyway, not sure if anyone else share's the same sentiment.
Thanks
I like that it multitasked!
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Theoretically.. maybe? I mean, I imagine it would be like porting a new version of Sense, but backwards. There would definitely be bugs in something like that.
SoraX64 said:
Theoretically.. maybe? I mean, I imagine it would be like porting a new version of Sense, but backwards. There would definitely be bugs in something like that.
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Pretty much this. It's possible but there would be a boatload of bugs. That's considering anyone even wants to port it over.
Sense 4 theming will pick up as soon as we get m10 image decompiling. The Virtuous Team folks seem to have solved this (as evidenced by their Sense 4.0 Theme) so hopefully they will update their Studio tool with support so we can all decompile the images. Hang tight
The only "bad" thing with Sense 4 is multitasking other than that its a complete improvement over 3.
Sense 3.0 was so bloated.
It could probably be done, but I don't know any developers who are bothering going backwards.
Consider it like this. It would be equivalent to buying a Windows 7 PC with a free upgrade available to Windows 8 when it's released, then wiping it completely and putting Vista on it. I'm pretty sure it's never been attempted, but very much possible. It'd take a while to do, though.
Stop living in the past, man!
Sense 3.0 was a step in the right direction for HTC to show what type of desktop UI rendering a smartphone could do but the transitions, framerates and objects were poorly rendered. Anything sense 3.5 and above ironed that out so for quality sake I would stick with any Rom with those versions.
I see that one responder told me to stop living in the past lol. It's just a matter of preference, ICS really doesn't do much for me, in fact I prefer 3.0. I know it might be headache to do, but it's more of a heedache (at least at this point) to try to get a bunch of stubborn apk's to cooperate so that a guy can make a theme. The stock looking UI sucks.
musicman625 said:
I see that one responder told me to stop living in the past lol. It's just a matter of preference, ICS really doesn't do much for me, in fact I prefer 3.0. I know it might be headache to do, but it's more of a heedache (at least at this point) to try to get a bunch of stubborn apk's to cooperate so that a guy can make a theme. The stock looking UI sucks.
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Getting sense 3.0 would be just as buggy and a PITA as it is getting aosp/miui on this phone. It's a downgrade, but it's still ripping and hacking software that wasn't intended for the lte
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