Is the thunderbolt worth it or just wait for the Droid Bionic? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Title says it all. What do you guys think?

I love my Tbolt, and I love that I got it at a time where I am grandfathered into unlimited data, which I would not have been had I waited for the Bionic.

And what feature are you waiting to get from Bionic that TBolt can't already do?

I bet the Bionic will be more of a pain in the ass to root...will prob have an even more locked down bootloader

Having owned the Atrix... the QHD display is really a deal breaker for me. It was really washed out, couldnt draw the color yellow at all, and was VERY pixelated. Not to mention its an even bigger screen than the Atrix, so it will be worse.
Not a chance id buy it.

milan03 said:
And what feature are you waiting to get from Bionic that TBolt can't already do?
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A battery that lasts longer than 5 hours.

ApplCobbler said:
A battery that lasts longer than 5 hours.
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And have you actually tested Bionic so you can confirm this?
On a side note my Bolt lasts me 12+ hours for the last 4 days, my normal use.

I was thinking of waiting, but went for the Thunderbolt. I usually wait a few months before getting a newly released phone, but wanted to make sure I got unlimited data on 4G. Other than the network being a little fickle on 4G, I have no complaints. Development for this phone is moving pretty quickly!
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A battery that lasts longer than 5 hours.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have got to be kidding me. that thing is dual core. what in god's name makes anybody believe its battery life will be better? if you know engineering and hardware, you will know that unless motorola has unearthed the elixir of battery life, its simply not physically possible. maybe thats why their battery size is bigger. and by the way, good luck trying to run anything except what verizon and motorola want you to run on that with locked and encrypted bootloaders - keep dreaming about CM7 and MIUI.... finally i had an x for a day - nice hardware but horrrrrrrrendous UI compared to sense. no thanks, its htc for me - tried true and tested

For one i think the dual core is wat is makeing me wait. Anyone think its worth it? Also i think the stock rom on it looks amazing. Just juice defender and im set.
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more cores just mean running more processes at "full" speed at the same time. I don't know about you but I rarely render 3d graphics and run matlab on my phone.
multi core cell phones are just a selling point in my opinion.

My opinion... HTC > Moto. I like HTC's hardware designs better. Love the look and feel of HTC devices.
I also hate Moto for locking down bootloaders like crazy, but it looks like HTC may be joining these ranks soon as well. I cannot deny that Moto has some nice specs on their devices... but the Thunderbolt is no slouch.
My TB gets great battery life running stock. It will be even better with root, custom kernel, and custom ROMs. You really cannot go wrong. The development for this device is awesome.

Since my introduction in the Android world Ive had nothing but HTC devices. I don't care for hard buttons so most of the Motorola devices are out for me. Plus, with HTC I can root and run aosp toms as well as Sense. Win win.
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Wat about the inc 2. There r a lot of new phhones comeing out and i.need some suggestions. My brother is a develeoper and he says hes gonna be using my phone for deving but not if i get the bionic. I wonder why. And also u guys know any deals on the thunderbolt? Like discounts or something? That would be great. Im gonna get tep for sure no matter what lil
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That thing has 2 cores and total of 512MB of RAM. Android OS is not even optimized for dual core hardware, not to mention that the amount of RAM could be a choking point for anything from Web browsing flash content to gaming.
No thanks.

milan03 said:
And have you actually tested Bionic so you can confirm this?
On a side note my Bolt lasts me 12+ hours for the last 4 days, my normal use.
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I second this... I have mine since launch the only thing I changed was the brightness, which i set at 30% as opposed to automatic. Since then, I my TB battery has given me 12+ hrs, with my normal use. The people who complain about the battery must have their gps turned on while surfing 4G all day.

milan03 said:
That thing has 2 cores and total of 512MB of RAM. Android OS is not even optimized for dual core hardware, not to mention that the amount of RAM could be a choking point for anything from Web browsing flash content to gaming.
No thanks.
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Are u reffering to the inc2. Do do you think the thunderbilt would be my best choice?
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Yup, the brightness did it for me as well.

unless you are trying to do linear programming on your phone, i see no point in a dual core phone. i do believe all tablets should be dual or quad core though because they replace PCs - your phone is meant to be held next to your ear and do some simple things like calendar, email etc, do video chat and so on. this is a communication device primarily - screen real estate is too small to be of much use beyond that. also consider motorola's pathetic laptop dock - does anybody think they want that? there is nothing you can do on that. convergence my rear end.

I don't have any experience with Motorola because I am a flash junkie and I don't want to be stuck with a locked bootloader and Motoblur overlay. My first Android was an HTC G1 and my only experience venturing away from HTC was the Samsung Vibrant, and although I learned a lot about flashing, after six months of not having an AOSP rom because Samsung would not release source, I gave up and got another HTC device. I'll stick with HTC, thanks.
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Help Decideing Between Thunderbolt or Iphone

Hey guys im a 5 time user of droid phones. Ive been extremely dispointed in Android so i left and am waiting for the Iphone. But the thunderbolt looks hot. Can someone give me any reasons to get the thunderbolt or iphone. It is tempting, and im a huge fan of sense ui. But the lack of apps kills me.
I can't wait for the Thunderbolt myself. Some of the things I am interested in with this phone compared to the iPhone are:
- 4g connectivity
- 4.3 inch screen
- 768MB of RAM (compared to 512 for iPhone)
- Higher resolution front and rear cameras
- Removable storage support
- Flash support
- Wifi media sync with Winamp app
Android has most every application I am looking for. Navigation is free too. I will admit I am still waiting for a few applications such as Netflix. I would much rather be on an open platform any day.
What applications are you looking for?
What lack of apps, for every iphone app there is an android app that does virtually the same thing.
It really comes down to this (in my opinion):
Which is more important, simplicity or customization?
My wife wants her phone to be simple as possible and thats why she loves the iphone.
Me on the other hand, hates the iphone because I can't do complex customization. I believe you should be able to change your notification tones without jailbreaking.
So if you want simplicity and just want stuff to work with as little intervention as possible, then the iphone is probaboly for you.
If you want to be able to customize the phone to tailor it more to you then android is the way to go.
Which driods have you used in the past? The Thunderbolt is basically the evo from sprint which is a very nice phone.
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Which driods have you used in the past? The Thunderbolt is basically the evo from sprint which is a very nice phone.
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This is true for the average consumer. But there are HUGE (at least to me) differences between the Evo and the Thunderbolt.
The Thunderbolt has an S-LCD screen compared to the Evo's regular LCD screen.
Thunderbolt has the 2nd gen 45 nm Snapdragon processor with Adreno 205 gpu compared to the Evo's 65 nm 1st gen Snapdragon processor with Adreno 200 gpu. This means the Thunderbolt is faster, more responsive, drains less batteries, and has much better graphics power.
Thunderbolt has 768 mb of RAM compared to Evo's 512 mb. Self explanatory here.
Thunderbolt also has a new 8 MP camera that is DIFFERENT from the Evo's camera. It's suppose to be a lot better especially under low light situations.
Thunderbolt comes with Sense 2.0 while Evo has the outdated Sense.
Thunderbolt has SRS Dolby Surround Sound while Evo does not.
I think those are all of the main differences. But other than that, they're too different.
Edit: Woops I mean to say, other than that, they're the same. x)
Thanks for clearing that up hacker01
Thunderbolt or Iphone. Hmm what to choose... What to choose...
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Thanks for clearing that up hacker01
Thunderbolt or Iphone. Hmm what to choose... What to choose...
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IPhone on Verizon will not do voice and data at the same time, iPhone does have a small screen but more pixels per inch making the screen look better. The thunderbolt has better battery life.
The nicest part about the iPhone is any idiot can use it. Bricking is almost impossible. And because there is no real multitasking its almost impossible to leave an app open and killing your battery (although I haven't had that problem since my Eris)
The final nice part about the iPhone is accessories are made for it cuz its so popular.
But with that said I have 7 friends that have the iPhone (literally 7 I'm not rounding) and all of them are jealous of basic android abilities like turn by turn GPS and how quickly gmail works and wireless backup and WIDGETS.
You loose a lot by going iPhone but you don't have to think when you use it.
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I guess I should add the nice part about the iPhone is everybody has the same screen size and what not so making apps is pretty easy but that gives you less options
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a really BIG deciding factor for me is battery life. android is known for having semi poor battery life depending on the phone (for me g1, nexus one). when i get the thunderbolt i wll definately be watching how my battery life is and if its poor then trust ill be getting the iphone. i would hate to leave android tho.
I am having the same dilemma...I want the thunderbolt but the LTE pricing is the deciding factor. And its really pissing me off that we are not getting any answers. Sprint and tmobile had pricing right away.
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Thunderbolt seems cool but screen resolution sucks.
buggs1a said:
Thunderbolt seems cool but screen resolution sucks.
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SUCKS is hardly a word I'd use. It is adequate. With a much bigger screen which is more important IMO.
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Man i keep going back and forth. The Iphone just has so many great applications, games etc. Ive had 5 android phone and all were the same. Just for browsing email and phone.....iphone is so much more complete.
I like to play games sometimes. And well android as only a few and the ones it has are old ports!!!
If it wasnt for the 4g i wouldnt even consider the thunderbolt. Im just afraid if i dont jump on the $30 unlimited now for the 4g data that it might change and then im screwed.
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Man i keep going back and forth. The Iphone just has so many great applications, games etc. Ive had 5 android phone and all were the same. Just for browsing email and phone.....iphone is so much more complete.
I like to play games sometimes. And well android as only a few and the ones it has are old ports!!!
If it wasnt for the 4g i wouldnt even consider the thunderbolt. Im just afraid if i dont jump on the $30 unlimited now for the 4g data that it might change and then im screwed.
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Same here...but Android is so much easier to Customise and replace Batteries . At some point there will iPhone for 4G and so the point of TB being 4G will beome moot. Just gonna sit tight and wait until September and see what is out there...perhaps a Bionic Phone?

Still Happy w/ Your Thunderbolt?

Hi guys,
I'm planning to upgrade to a TB hopefully
this weekend, but also considering the iphone.
I'm about 70/30 in favor of the TB
Just wanted to get your input and see if you
guys that already have your TB, used it, gotten
comfortable etc:
- Can you still say that you are happy w/ your
decision?
- any items that you dislike that you've discovered
from your daily use that you had not noticed before?
- build quality still holding up well?
Thanks for your time
I've had my bolt for about 2 months now and I am very pleased with it. I never had the reboot issues so that was a non factor. Battery life honestly isn't that bad. I can make it 12 hours which is enough.
That's probably largely due to rooting and installing custom ROMs, which is actually the biggest advantage. The developer support is massive on this device, at least matching what I was used to on the Incredible, which had some of the best dev support next to the Evo and Nexus devices.
Don't fret the lack of a dual core processor, I honestly thought I would but clocked at 1.4 I don't notice ANY lag. And honestly, having a slow network (IE not Verizon 4G) would cause far more noticeable slow down than not having a second processor.
Hope this helps!
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I agree with all of the above. I've had mine about 2 months as well, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I briefly considered exchanging my TB for a Droid Charge, but the Charge dev support is virtually nonexistant, and I can't stand Touchwiz. I've had better battery life with other phones, but I routinely get 16-20 hrs on my TB and I have a couple of extra batteries, so the battery isn't an issue for me. Mine is slightly overclocked (1.4ghz) and the Sense UI is silky smooth, so even though it has a single core cpu, it handles everything I throw at it. As mentioned before, you'll appreciate the difference between 3G vs. 4G much more than single vs. dual core.
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I agree too . I had iphones since first gen . Even when iPhone 4 came out I was talking smack bout Android phones . But I switched to Verizon from ATT and was debating either iPhone 4 again or thunder bolt . Picked the TB to test out . And gladly I say I made a good move that day . Great phone and puts the iPhone in the ditch .
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I love it. Das BAMF just came out with 4 new rom versions under 24 hours.
Christmas in July.
But to answer "- Can you still say that you are happy w/ your
decision?" Yes because it has kickstand.
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Yes because it has kickstand.
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When I bought this phone I thought the kickstand was absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a phone. Fast forward three months and now if I look at a phone and it doesn't have a kickstand I wonder how the user is able to deal with it.
Mine did nothing but glitch and power off with factory flash. 1 week later I love it... running MR2.5, BAMF Stripped 2.1, and lots of apps.
Temptation
The Samsung Galaxy S2 is tempting to me. I personally think the device looks amazing.
I remember when a kickstand and a FFC were the big draws.
I even got a 3rd line on my account just so I could get this phone.
But with 3D phones, dual core processors and fancier UIs I'm a little bummed out about this phone. If it wasn't for BAMF I'd have probably just sulked until the next big thing. As you can see I don't wait long to jump on the newest device (BTW, the mythical Bionic and GS2 don't impress me so it might be a looooong wait ):
Droid 1 - 11/09 - 4/10
Droid Inc - 4/10 - 7/10
Droid X - 7/10 - 3/11
Thunderbolt - 3/11 - present
The thunderbolt is well beyond expectation. The 4G LTE network is literally 20 to 30 times faster than the iPhone's 3G network, there are a couple dozen ROMs to test, and Android is better than iOS.
Also, there's a kickstand on the Thunderbolt, how can you not love it? If you overclock to 1.4 GHz like many of us do, you will most likely notice no lag. If you're smart with your battery, and take steps to save it, you should be able to get 12+ hours with it, even with somewhat heavy internet use and even a few videos or games everyday.
I love my Thunderbolt.
I had read all about battery life issues but decided to go for it anyway.
No battery issues to speak of and after rooter and going to BAMF the battery is even better.
The 4G speed is outstanding where available. I get 5mbps around my area (Mountain View, CA) but when I go to San Francisco it hits 20mbps+. Doesn't seem to matter where in San Francisco I am either, speeds are always amazing.
I never thought I'd use the kickstand. I just thought it would be there.. but I use it all the time. I do wish you could charge the phone while using the kickstand.. this seems like a major screw up on the people who designed the phone.
The Thunderbolt is the best 4g option right now, if it were me I'd get it before 7/7 to get locked into the unlimited 4g. If 4g isn't something you care about then I'd say the Droid X or X2. I like my Thunderbolt but not as much as my X, the thunderbolt is lacking in build quality, Motorola have always had the best from my experience.
my friend had one, but he sold it allready and will never buy a htc again.
He told me, it was ok, but nothing special..
most older htc models sucks anyway, mostly because of their bad camera and clumsyness.
Still loving the Thunderbolt. While the charge has a nicer looking screen, I still prefer HTC and the Sense UI over any other UI
I went from an Incredible to the tbolt and its not a switch I've second guessed for a second. Had mine rooted the same day I got it. I don't see how an iFone holds a candle to the tbolt in any way.
appreciate everyone's response
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I've had my bolt for about 2 months now and I am very pleased with it. I never had the reboot issues so that was a non factor. Battery life honestly isn't that bad. I can make it 12 hours which is enough.
That's probably largely due to rooting and installing custom ROMs, which is actually the biggest advantage. The developer support is massive on this device, at least matching what I was used to on the Incredible, which had some of the best dev support next to the Evo and Nexus devices.
Don't fret the lack of a dual core processor, I honestly thought I would but clocked at 1.4 I don't notice ANY lag. And honestly, having a slow network (IE not Verizon 4G) would cause far more noticeable slow down than not having a second processor.
Hope this helps!
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awesome, thank tct08 for the sharing your experience
allchannels99 said:
Mine did nothing but glitch and power off with factory flash. 1 week later I love it... running MR2.5, BAMF Stripped 2.1, and lots of apps.
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great that's definitely encouraging. I've been looking at the section w/ all the roms in it and i'm thinking i'm going to try one BAMF's roms
i keep seeing mr1/2 throughout the forums - what exactly is/does that mean? from what i've read it does it have to do w/ gingerbread at all?
mattsonhistb said:
The thunderbolt is well beyond expectation. The 4G LTE network is literally 20 to 30 times faster than the iPhone's 3G network, there are a couple dozen ROMs to test, and Android is better than iOS.
Also, there's a kickstand on the Thunderbolt, how can you not love it? If you overclock to 1.4 GHz like many of us do, you will most likely notice no lag. If you're smart with your battery, and take steps to save it, you should be able to get 12+ hours with it, even with somewhat heavy internet use and even a few videos or games everyday.
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thanks matt for your user experience as well. @ this point i'm definitely going to go w/ the TB, my wife's planning to go w/ the iphone route lol.
for overclocking, is there a tutorial on how to get that done? is that involving changing the kernal or something?
- - Another question I had that for you guys: on my current blackberry I have multiple email accts on it
w/ the thunderbolt how many email accts can you setup on it? is it only 1 main one that we need to forward all emails to or ability to setup multiple accts?
thx again
crookshanks said:
When I bought this phone I thought the kickstand was absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a phone. Fast forward three months and now if I look at a phone and it doesn't have a kickstand I wonder how the user is able to deal with it.
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Wow that is how I felt. I thought phones with kickstands were absolutely DUMB. Now after having the TBolt for a few weeks I can't see how I ever lived without one haha. I LOVE this phone. The build quality is awesome. It's not scary to put down and handle like the iPhone 4 (glass cell phone....really? idiots!!!). The only thing I'm not huge on is battery life but I got the extended 2750mAhbattery so it all works out! Screw the locked down garden of iOS and get the TBolt!!
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The Thunderbolt is the best 4g option right now, if it were me I'd get it before 7/7 to get locked into the unlimited 4g. If 4g isn't something you care about then I'd say the Droid X or X2. I like my Thunderbolt but not as much as my X, the thunderbolt is lacking in build quality, Motorola have always had the best from my experience.
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Not hating on you but you really think the Droid X/X2 have a better build quality? My buddy has the X and to me it feels cheaper than the TBolt. Obviously it's our opinions and subjective overall but it just shocked me to read that.
- - Another question I had that for you guys: on my current blackberry I have multiple email accts on it
w/ the thunderbolt how many email accts can you setup on it? is it only 1 main one that we need to forward all emails to or ability to setup multiple accts?
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I have 4 different emails setup all update just fine, the main issue with the bolt is htc and vzw screwed the pooch on the OS but the devs stepped up, it does have one of the largest group of devs working on it.
Bamf is runnin' my bolt - smoke that vzw!
One thing I really wish was different is the the location of usb port. I can't use the kickstand and and netflix at the same time, unless I'm lying on my side and have it kickstood portrait mode. I really think that the usb location should have been in between of the onoff button and 3.5 headset port. Tbh anywhere but the side it is now. =)
I love it. Rooted with a little love it is a very powerful device..stock is another story..

Buying advice for Droid X2

Hi all,
I currently use an iPhone 3G but am looking to buy a CDMA phone to use on page plus. My options are: DX for ~ $150, DX2 for $200, or maybe even Evo 4G for around $160. I'd appreciate any advice regarding which is the best route to go with. Thanks
Evo
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Evo
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D'you think that the Evo's unlocked bootloader trumps the dual core on the DX2? Because the initial overlay in terms of cash isnt that big a deal as its not much different
I'd get the X2, It's pretty fast on a custom rom like eclipse.
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D'you think that the Evo's unlocked bootloader trumps the dual core on the DX2? Because the initial overlay in terms of cash isnt that big a deal as its not much different
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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Pretty much. Cm7 and omfgb on my tbolt were a lot more stable and responsive than the dx2 on any rom. Dual core doesn't mean twice the fun.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I'd been leaning towards the X2 because of the processor and the qHD screen, but it seems the majority of you think that the Evo is the way to go. My only other concern would be the battery life I guess
Get evo.
Battery life is a valid concern. I'm on Evo forum EVERY DAY, and I see lots of people claim 24+ hrs battery life. I don't get anywhere near that. I suppose it just comes down to tuning. There is tons of dev support in the Evo forums. Still, after more than a year. There's tons of rom and kernels to choose from.
Evo devs are dropping new ports at an amazing rate. Hell, we're running roms that haven't even been publicly released.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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brepublican said:
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'd been leaning towards the X2 because of the processor and the qHD screen, but it seems the majority of you think that the Evo is the way to go. My only other concern would be the battery life I guess
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The screen looks nice for still images, but it has a strange and annoying motion blur that I haven't noticed on any of my other phones.
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I'd go with something besides x2...its fast but the camera and screen just suck..i loved my fascinate...miss it dearly ...
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The screen looks nice for still images, but it has a strange and annoying motion blur that I haven't noticed on any of my other phones.
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Thank you for the insight. Thanks everyone. This'll be my first Android phone, and I think I'm going to go with the Evo. I'll get something better when the LTE handsets start coming out
Why not get a Bionic from Amazon?
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Droosh said:
Why not get a Bionic from Amazon?
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I dont want to get a phone on contract, and dont really have a need for 4G right now. So basically, I'm looking for a phone to hold me out for maybe a year atleast...
the Droid X2's 540x960 resolution, lack of front facing camera and being a solid 3g phone is what sold me on it. bottom line it's a motorola communication device, and they do what they need to do and take a beating. F HTC and their easily hackable bootloaders. the easiest to hack devices are gonna be the first to get taken out by malware and viruses once they start becoming more prevalent (and they will)
my droid X2 is fast as hell, gets great battery life (compared to what I read from others) and I can modify as much as I need to as it can still be rooted and I'm running the ported Atrix 2.3.4 rom w/ some bloat removed. I don't have any of the problems others complain about with this phone (media playback, sound/video issues)
I've literally tried every hack, script, and rom out there along with a few little tweaks of my own and this is the first android device I've EVER had that I've felt was adequate. I've had more than my fair share of HTC junk, and that's exactly how I feel about that taiwanese crap. so far this X2 has been through hell, I gave up on cases and protectors (cause they don't fit quite right and make the docks impossible to use) and it's got some battle scars from work and play (it even got run over by a K5 blazer while I was 4-wheelin in the colorado rockies) and it just won't die... every HTC I ever had I swear started just failing after being dropped once or twice with the exception of my old 8125, it took full immersion in a pan full of hot engine coolant to finally kill it, and it worked for a good 2 weeks after that happened until the keyboard and touchscreen became basically unresponsive. it's only a matter of time until this device is unlockable (seriously, give me ONE example of SOMETHING out there that runs software and could not be hacked/cracked/exploited in some way)
i'll put it in this perspective, launcher icons in a 5 wide 7 high grid. I can fit EVERYTHING I need on ONE homescreen with no overlap, an 800x480 screen will not do that.
my only complaint about the phone is the camera SUCKS in low light, but it's just a crappy CMOS phone camera with a plastic lens, what do you expect? I've NEVER used a camera phone for any really important pictures anyway. I want my phone to first and foremost be a COMMUNICATION DEVICE and when it comes to solid radio technology, you can NEVER go wrong with anything motorola (so long as it doesn't flip or slide)
but then again, I was born with a keyboard in my hand and an insatiable thirst for knowledge of all things electrical/electonic, mechanical and everything in between.
^^^ jealousy is the worst emotion.
More politics in xda then Washington.
I'd double check getting that evo onto page plus. I couldn't get my thunderbolt on there because of the 4g radio.
With regard to the Droid x2, I've got a real love hate relationship with this thing. It's really picky and takes a ron of fine tuning to get it working fluidly, in my experience. But, in my experience it gives the best photos of any phone I've used. They don't look very good on the screen (pentile is horrible with color banding), but they reproduce really well on other media.
My dinc2, which you should also consider, functions much more reliably without all these freaking scripts with dozens of parameters to tweak. But, the video frame rates can't match those of the dx2, and photos are not as good.
Always boils down to what you need. I'm about ready to throw my dx2 under the next bus that passes by if it stutters on me again.
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Durable? I dropped it once from hip distance and now the screen had a hairline crack in the bottom corner. not sure about being ran over..
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Evo is a Sprint phone. Page plus uses Verizon phones. X2 with tegra doesn't seem to have any advantages besides good video codec support. Nothing amazing optimized for tegra and the single core phones have so much more customization going for them. And all Motorola qhd screens suck. Colors including video look washed out.
Htc's qhd like on sensation use normal rgb lcds vs. The new moto (DROID 3, x2, bionic, photon, ATRIX) using pentile rgbw.
I wouldn't recommend this phone for a few reasons, one of which is tegra has little going for it especially on this phone. Everything is optimized for snapdragon, even if this phone should technically be more powerful.
If u do a lit of music listening from device don't go with x2. Otherwise great phone. Stupid st..ut.ter..s...I..a.mm.g...g ..ettett ...img...tired of music skips ;(

Photon vs. SIII

Now that the Samsung SIII has been officially announced for Sprint, how many of you are taking the leap? Any new features you can't wait to use? Anything you are concerned about that's stopping you from taking the leap?
Staying put. I want the Note!
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I'll stay with the Photon for awhile.
Back in the WinMo days, a new phone would have more memory, etc - something to differentiate it.
Android phones, IMO, have reached the point of commoditization - I'm not seeing compelling features that make me want to upgrade. All current phones have good screen res, battery usage, memory, etc. The Photon is about as large a phone as I'd want.
I'll wait and see what, if any complaints there are re: the radios.
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I need a worldphone, and Sprint's version of the s3 wont have those capabilities (based on what I have read).
all teh sprint phones are gunna have teh dual core s4 chips, the evo lte and sgs3 have big 720p screens. they all will have internal storage and high res cameras....
really it boils down to which manufacturer you want, locked bootloader vs unlocked, sense vs blur vs touchwiz vs lg
I'm sticking with the Photon until the next Nexus. I've been thinking of the Galaxy Nexus, but the PowerVR 540 is just too antiquated at this point.
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I don't have an upgrade for another year. I see myself having a windows phone 8 device along with a windows 8 tablet, and of course my windows rig which will probably remain windows 7. As much as I enjoy android, for some reason I just don't see myself sticking with it.
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Acvice said:
I don't have an upgrade for another year. I see myself having a windows phone 8 device along with a windows 8 tablet, and of course my windows rig which will probably remain windows 7. As much as I enjoy android, for some reason I just don't see myself sticking with it.
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What do you like so much about Windows Phone 8?
Bigger than 4.3" is a deal breaker for me.
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Cubanluke88 said:
Bigger than 4.3" is a deal breaker for me.
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that's what she said...
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cornelious2 said:
that's what she said...
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sjamie said:
What do you like so much about Windows Phone 8?
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It's not necessarily that im in love with the platform more than it is that it's the only one i havnt delved into extensively. I was a Winmo fan back in the day, then i fell in love with webOS, and the Mopho is my first Android. So the only one i havnt experienced to the fullest is windows phone.
Most notably, i enjoy the idea of every one of my devices being seamlessly in sync with one another. Plus, it just seems like android is so damn fragmented. The way it's put together feels almost, sloppy, to me. I can't really explain it. Did i mention wp is downright gorgeous?
DetroitFlyer said:
Staying put. I want the Note!
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What he said
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Since the SIII is almost as large as the Note, what has you want that device specifically?
S pen + folio case
Also hopefully sprint is working on a GS3 version (S4 cpu + 2gb ram) which would be great but if its the OG note on sprint it should be cheaper by now.
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i agree, all the phones are pretty much the same. big clear screens, 8mp cameras, same storage, same RAM, all 1Ghz + dual cpus... Honestly the specs have me bored. The only thing that raised my eyebrows is the extra 100mAh in the battery. for me, all i need is a phone that can connect to the web, answer and make clear phone calls and have battery to last me the day (add more days and ill be even happier)
But with this all said, im headed off to the store to upgrade my mother from the original EVO 4G to the EVO LTE (i figure it will be an easy change for her since its still HTC Sence) Her biggest concern is knowing where the camera and video recorder is to capture grandkids.
Me personally, im sitting on my photon for a few reasons. 1.i paid the full 650+ for the photon so im going to use it till it dies. 2.my upgrade is a ways out 3.World phone is a must for me now. 4.i got ICS on the photon (thanks devs)
Edit: just picked up the EVO LTE for my mother, very impressive. great feel to the phone. made a phone call and great audio. im sure anyone who buys the phone will not be upset, BUT its CDMA only. after playing with it for the day, i must say its VERY impressive. Im tempted to buy one for use in the US and then keep my photon for travels. im curious to see what LTE sprint will give. store said to expect towers to come online towards the end of this month (houston tx). ill be watching her phone and seeing how the battery does. It makes my photon feel like a brick and a tiny brick! that screen is MONSTER when next to the photon.
I'm probably going to pick up a galaxy nexus sometime this year. I'm not worried about having the latest or greatest.
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I'm planning to replace my photon when:
1. LTE will come here and MoPho won't support it.
2. There will be some really good replacement for MoPho, but I really don't see any good now. I don't know why it's so hard to make good device like MoPho is.
I would like if Motorola will come with new device like our Photon. If they will create second upgraded photon, I would be happy.
For me & wife (EVO 3D and Photon) 4G has rarely been reliable while moving - even in large markets (Chicago, LA, San Fran, Houston...). I guess we'll have to see if LTE is better.
But, in my case, very high speed on my cell phone is getting increasingly irrelevant - don't need high speed while in car moving. And when stationary, normally have free WiFi available and use my tablet. YMMV, of course, that's just my usage pattern.

Anything other than the screen that's great?

I'm getting an upgrade soon. Not sure if I should get this phone or not.
So basically, are there any other features that makes this phone stand out from others besides the screen ?
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Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro is pretty awesome too if u want to know.... And IPX-5 grade water resistant.
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What has your research shown you so far?
Cremacious said:
I'm getting an upgrade soon. Not sure if I should get this phone or not.
So basically, are there any other features that makes this phone stand out from others besides the screen ?
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To be honest with you, have yet to find anything about this phone I don't like. The screen is amazing, the snapdragon S4 pro is incredibly fast. Not to mention the fact that the DNA has by far the best battery life for any android phone I have ever had (went from the Aris >> Incredible >> Droid Charge >> rezound >> DNA). I can go to work for 8 hours and come home with >70% of my battery still left with moderate usage. A few friends who also have the phone report the same thing.
IMO you really can not go wrong with this phone.
I have a Galaxy Note 2 and a DNA and I much prefer my DNA as my "daily driver". My only gripe with the phone are kernel the wakelock issues, but that problem is easily addressed by flashing LKs kernel.
I would also add that the phone was a bit too thin for my tastes. Possibly because I have smaller hands. A Diztronic case solved that issue and I think the phone has a perfect feel to it now.
The DNA is nearly perfect, and using ViperROM makes it even better. The only reason that I would give a recommendation to a different device is for expandable memory. If you often find yourself in situations where you don't have 4g or decent WiFi, then you will want your media on your device, and 11GB goes quick.
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To be honest with you, have yet to find anything about this phone I don't like. The screen is amazing, the snapdragon S4 pro is incredibly fast. Not to mention the fact that the DNA has by far the best battery life for any android phone I have ever had (went from the Aris >> Incredible >> Droid Charge >> rezound >> DNA). I can go to work for 8 hours and come home with >70% of my battery still left with moderate usage. A few friends who also have the phone report the same thing.
IMO you really can not go wrong with this phone.
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The standby time for this phone is incredible. I can go on a 7 hour shift with only using about 2% of the battery.
This phone is also sooooo smooth. Waaay faster than my moms, sisters, or brother in laws galaxy III's.
i just lol'd
The reason I ask is because I'm going to be upgrading to either the S3 or DNA from an Incredible 2. The S3 is $100 cheaper, and I stopped and wondered if there was anything the DNA had that made it worth the extra price other than the screen. My Incredible 2 is the only smartphone I've owned so far, and I immediately stopped liking Sense and went the custom ROM route with CM7 and MIUI. I returned to stock once and the phone felt laggy, and the bloatware didn't help. I know its unfair to compare the DNA to an older device with and older version of Sense, but it kind of made me want to step away from HTC. Plus, I'm a bit mad at HTC promising an update but never delivering.
I plan on going stock this time, and based on what you guys are saying its still very nice and smooth? Worth the double price? It is a two year commitment so I'm being cautious.
What are your other choices?
it's still ur choice. but why not just go and try the phone first? hold it touch it feel it.
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The reason I ask is because I'm going to be upgrading to either the S3 or DNA from an Incredible 2. The S3 is $100 cheaper, and I stopped and wondered if there was anything the DNA had that made it worth the extra price other than the screen. My Incredible 2 is the only smartphone I've owned so far, and I immediately stopped liking Sense and went the custom ROM route with CM7 and MIUI. I returned to stock once and the phone felt laggy, and the bloatware didn't help. I know its unfair to compare the DNA to an older device with and older version of Sense, but it kind of made me want to step away from HTC. Plus, I'm a bit mad at HTC promising an update but never delivering.
I plan on going stock this time, and based on what you guys are saying its still very nice and smooth? Worth the double price? It is a two year commitment so I'm being cautious.
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I'm curious as to where you are seeing this price difference. At Verizon they're both 199 and at amazon they're both 149 for an upgrade.
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DNA is the best phone I have owned. Came from EVO 4G lte, great phone but DNA beats it. Running Nova launcher and is crazy fast! Truly love the phone. Played with a buddies SGiii, no comparison, DNA smokes it. My opinion of course.
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Yeah this is definitely the best phone ive owned. Coming from crapple.
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Cremacious said:
I'm getting an upgrade soon. Not sure if I should get this phone or not.
So basically, are there any other features that makes this phone stand out from others besides the screen ?
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Built in wireless charging, form factor, camera
battery. reception of 4g. call quality. gaming. speed. camera. stylish looks. beats. music. i can go on

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