I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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I have read that the bluetooth stack is not same as og evo. I am curious if anyone had info on this. If it its true it might and I stress might allow us to use bt devices such as wii or ps3 controllers. Now with full hdmi mirroring this could make for the ultimate gaming phone for those into emulation. What are ur thoughts?
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Sheer joy, if it's true.
Any knowledge or opinions would be much appreciated.
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i use a wiimote on my evo4g now. Just have to run an AOSP rom not SENSE.
I love the idea of emulating from my phone like I do now, playing Final Fantasy 3/6, 7, Tactics with a wiimote is already epic on the phone, couldn't imagine on a huge TV so easily now too. I ned a tv worth it though.
I have not found any custom roms I trust enough to void my warranty for. I have ran cm6 and cm7 and I did like them but as many phones as I have went through especially my hero last year ill stick with stock sense and hope evo 3d will allow such bt devices such as wii or ps3 remotes to work
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what does the thread title and the OP have to do with each other?
The Evo 4G supports bluetooth profiles like A2DP for wireless stereo headsets, and FTP and OPP (object push) for file transfers. But when it comes to connecting an interface device, it does not support bluetooth HID (human interface device) profiles. It only supports SPP (serial port protocal).
Which is why things like the MSI BGP100, and the FreedomPro Keyboard work with it. Both of these devices use SPP bluetooth profiles. Drivers were created and released in the market, and a stock Evo 4G can connect to these.
Everyone blamed the HTC Sense interface for why we couldn't connect HID devices, (Wii Mote, and several keyboards, mice, etc). Which is why the OP mentions Sense 3D, because he still thinks it was sense that did it. It wasn't actually Sense that did it. HTC just never built bluetooth HID profiles into the phone.
AOSP roms don't have sense, but they are also built from ground 0, so they have HID profiles built into them. A lot of people have mistakenly thought that it was taking Sense completely out, that brought bluetooth HID back in, but it was really just coincidence.
For example, iPhones don't come with HID profiles, but someone in Cydia released an app that alters the bluetooth stack for you, and adds additional profiles. Theoretically, someone could have done this for the Evo 4G, but no one has yet.
That being said, I have seen several sites, including HTC's own, showing bluetooth HID under the specs for the Evo 3D. This isn't something I was ever able to find for the Evo 4G.
Don't quote me on it, but I am banking on all the WiiMote apps, bluetooth keyboard apps, and any other bluetooth input device, working properly with the Evo 3D right out of the box.
Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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Thank you bradley. that is exactly what I was curious about. u answered my question and educated me at same time. that was much appreciated.
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So I was playing games on my emulators on my Vibrant and it got me thinking... what if i could use my phone on my Xbox instead of a controller? Could you make an app that you could use to play? Since you can already use wireless controllers, it'd just be about emitting the right signal from the phone and you could use the touch pad in place of buttons.
Genius I know...
Microsoft uses a proprietary wireless standard on their xbox 360 control interface.
The Xbox controller most likely used IR which no phone has. If anything you could use this phone as a PS3 controller since it uses bluetooth.
I don't always complain, but when I do, I #BlameWes
That would be nice but I also think it uses infrared.
Good idea though
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Here's a video of the N900 controlling the PS3 via Bluetooth. I don't think an app like this exists for Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWV-Xv_R5g8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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The controllers work off a 2.4GHz radio signal, not IR.
ConceptVBS is right, the protocol is proprietary and unpublished. They won't even license it to other manufacturers or developers. (My wife is into robotics and on Trossen forums somebody was trying to figure out how to make this work, but there is just too much back-and-forth between the console and the controller for the initial registration.)
I suppose in theory somebody could write a driver and hijack the wifi radio -- but without the information on the protocol, you have about as much hope as using your microwave oven to control your 360.
wow this thread is old. but I was just thinking the same thing.
this thread has xbox controller enabled rom available for the Elocity A7 running android 2.2. question is, can anyone else do this for a vibrant?? I'm sure there would be quite a few ppl, including myself, willing to donate towards a product like that!
boo yeahhh! vibrant with a wireless xbox controller would be soooo siiickkkk
So I got wind of the fact that you can still possibly get a full upgrade even with just a partial upgrade. Now my favorite part of my Evo 4G is easily playing Super Nintendo games with my classic controller.. almost to the point that I think it might even be a dealbreaker for me getting the Evo 3D. Any news on if the bluetooth will be functional this time around or if there are any new 3rd party controllers that work?
Way to early to know that for sure.
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I'm under the impression that peripheral devices are honeycomb 3.1
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HTC Sense has a weird bluetooth stack that didn't allow the wiimote applications or bluetooth mice to work. I believe that's what the OP is referring to, since an Evo 4G with CM7 on it can run wiimote or a bluetooth mouse/keyboard, but not with sense.
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HTC Sense has a weird bluetooth stack that didn't allow the wiimote applications or bluetooth mice to work. I believe that's what the OP is referring to, since an Evo 4G with CM7 on it can run wiimote or a bluetooth mouse/keyboard, but not with sense.
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Ah my mistake. I thought he was referring to all these people using usb controllers
Hi all,
I was searching the forums, but didn't see a clear answer to this:
Will Sense 3.0 correct the known bluetooth stack issues? (Wiimote's not connecting.) If not, does anyone know if HTC is planning on correcting the issues in an update? If not....does anyone know where we could petition HTC to do so?
Are there any TB ROMs, other than CM7, that work with the Wiimote now?
Thank you!
What does a Wiimote do on a phone?
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U can use your Wii controller to play a genosoid
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U can use your Wii controller to play a genosoid
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yes, most emulators like snes9xEX for instance allow you to use the wii controller. It's really a great feature. However it's incompatible with the Sense bluetooth drivers, so it doesn't work with HTC phones.
Hopefully someone knows the answer to at least one of those questions. Basf m just released a sense 3 rom. I'll have to try that
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I too was very interested to know this. I just tested it on an HTC Sensation, and I'm extremely sad to say that it does not work. I really wish HTC would fix this but I don't have my hopes up.
Cheers.
Anyone know a good bluetooth substitute we could use instead of a wii mote?
Just to clarify, the wii mote stuff works fine on my TB with CM7...but data and wifi don't...
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i used CM7 when i wanted to sync my wiimote. i dont think your gonna have much luck with syncing it to a sense rom though.
Bluetooth is borked on sense in general A2DP has dropping issues and it has issues syncing phonebook data to car bluetooth systems. Cm7 / aosp does not have these issues.
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I installed wiicontroller just to test on VirusROM 6/23 build w/Sense 3.0 and it's a no go. I love Sense 3.0, but the fact that this is possible SixAxis controller makes me want to switch back to CM7. That's so bada$$ to whip out your Dual Shock controller and play Street Fighter. On another note, I highly recommend using FPSE. Let me know if you want the APK.
No, even on the 3d which has the improved BT3 stack the drivers are not there to connect to PS3, controllers etc.
Is there any kind of gamepad solution for the Evo 3D that is confirmed to work? I don't care if I have to purchase a new product, but I would like a way to use either a bluetooth or USB gamepad.
I know the HTC BT Stack lacks support for the Wii remote and PS3 controllers.
Just looking for some input from other Evo 3D owners before I end up wasting my time and money on something that will not work.
You have an option of going to an AOSP rom and using it on there? it works on all bt devices i tested it with a wii mote w/classic controller
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Is there any kind of gamepad solution for the Evo 3D that is confirmed to work? I don't care if I have to purchase a new product, but I would like a way to use either a bluetooth or USB gamepad.
I know the HTC BT Stack lacks support for the Wii remote and PS3 controllers.
Just looking for some input from other Evo 3D owners before I end up wasting my time and money on something that will not work.
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Alas, there is not, the only way to get a pad working is to have a stock rom, then connect a pad via usb, wiimotes and ps3 pads work very well indeed, but with sense roms the bluetooth stack isn't compatible with pads, due to sense and it's bluetooth limitations, HID USB i think it is, basically devices can't be used as peripherals, including pads.
I'm in the same boat m8, watching my mate on his Gal nexus whilst i'm slumming it on a touchscreen pad is just a kick in the teeth, i do believe no one has ever gotten a pad to work over bluetooth on any device using sense.
Get Gannii's stock ICS rom when they fix the bluetooth and your golden, the camera doesn't work yet tho either
majid25 said:
You have an option of going to an AOSP rom and using it on there? it works on all bt devices i tested it with a wii mote w/classic controller
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I've been looking at different AOSP ROMs, and most people not in the comments that they still are unable to use a Wii remote. Which ROM have you been using, personally?
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I've been looking at different AOSP ROMs, and most people not in the comments that they still are unable to use a Wii remote. Which ROM have you been using, personally?
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Really? I used cyanogen mod 7 which worked great
Thanks for the input.
Has anyone tried the iControlpad on this phone? I've thought about buying one, but I don't want to sink the money if it's not going to work.
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Thanks for the input.
Has anyone tried the iControlpad on this phone? I've thought about buying one, but I don't want to sink the money if it's not going to work.
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http://www.gamestop.com/android/accessories/tablet-wireless-bluetooth-controller/97838
Works with sense...
The Zeemote js1 works too.
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6E8KzaVzMI
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
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I guess that would work, haha.
I think I'm going to go with the iControlPad. From what I've read it's compatible with HTC Sense when using BluezIME, has dual analog sticks and a clip-holder to hold the phone as a screen. Sure, it's $70, but comfort is important when gaming.
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I guess that would work, haha.
I think I'm going to go with the iControlPad. From what I've read it's compatible with HTC Sense when using BluezIME, has dual analog sticks and a clip-holder to hold the phone as a screen. Sure, it's $70, but comfort is important when gaming.
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Why not gametel´s gamepad?
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Or you can do some like this. Is much cheaper and works well.
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luis4ever said:
Why not gametel´s gamepad?
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I like that the iControlpad comes with a little clip mounting system that makes it feel more like a real handheld gaming device. I don't like the idea of having to prop my screen up somewhere and warp my neck to squeeze in a little gaming
Although I might buy one to have a 2nd controller for when I get my HDMI adapter
I'm using a PS3 Bluetooth controller and it works great. Just get the sixaxis pair app and you are good to go.
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I'm using a PS3 Bluetooth controller and it works great. Just get the sixaxis pair app and you are good to go.
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I have an HTC EVO 3D and do not want to root my phone, so that is not an option
Any other controllers out there that doesn't require root access?
Currently I have an E4GT, and my BT works great. I can connect my S9-HDs, PS3 controller, wii-mote without a hitch.
This wasn't the case with my OGEvo, the audio would cut in and out, and I couldn't connect any controllers without being on CM.
Is there any info about the BT stack on the 4G LTE? I'm asking here because I assume that it's different that in the OneX, if I'm incorrect let me know and I'll ask over there.
It looks like it has many more profiles then og 4G. I saw some has a wiimote paired with one x (although it is laggy)
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3742
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I think they'll probably have the same stack. WiiMotes work fine with my One X, I didn't have trouble with latency. My Phonejoy also works fine. PS3 controllers work with Root via Sixaxis app, although I'm presently locked to stock while reviewing the handset for Telecom NZ, so haven't personally confirmed that.
Bluetooth audio should be much better, since BT 4.0 has much higher bandwidth for audio streaming (although the receiving device may end up being the bottle neck). If you have a receiving device that is also Apt-X capable then the audio will be excellent, basically the same as wired up to around 370kbps (the Samsung HS3000 is cheap, versatile, and has Apt-X).
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I think they'll probably have the same stack. WiiMotes work fine with my One X, I didn't have trouble with latency. My Phonejoy also works fine. PS3 controllers work with Root via Sixaxis app, although I'm presently locked to stock while reviewing the handset for Telecom NZ, so haven't personally confirmed that.
Bluetooth audio should be much better, since BT 4.0 has much higher bandwidth for audio streaming (although the receiving device may end up being the bottle neck). If you have a receiving device that is also Apt-X capable then the audio will be excellent, basically the same as wired up to around 370kbps (the Samsung HS3000 is cheap, versatile, and has Apt-X).
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I just read on another thread that our EVO does not have BT 4.0. Does the One X have it though?
PsiPhiDan said:
I just read on another thread that our EVO does not have BT 4.0. Does the One X have it though?
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Really? I'd be surprised if it didn't, since all the other One series phones do (maybe not the One V, but the others at any rate).
Yes, the international One X has BT 4.0
PsiPhiDan said:
I just read on another thread that our EVO does not have BT 4.0. Does the One X have it though?
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Link to this please?
Will
shellguy said:
Link to this please?
Will
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I saw it on HTC's website. Check it out.
shellguy said:
Link to this please?
Will
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http://www.htc.com/us/compare/
Just add E4GLTE and any other phone then select connectivity towards the bottom of the page. It says Bluetooth 3.0+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26079402&postcount=8
This was my post from the BT 4.0 thread.
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jre1981 said:
http://www.htc.com/us/compare/
Just add E4GLTE and any other phone then select connectivity towards the bottom of the page. It says Bluetooth 3.0+
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This is what the build.prop from the latest Jewel leak says:
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# system property for Bluetooth Hardware information
ro.product.bluetooth=4.0
That suggests BT 4.0 to me.
Hope my icontrolpad works with it. From these comments it looks like it should. I like stock but a huge reason I want this phone is to run emulators on that awesome screen and have it propped up nice on that kickstand during my lunch hour.
I've already bought the Sixaxis app from the Play Store as I use that with my PS3 controller on my Prime. Would be great if it really does work on the Evo LTE as I wouldn't even have to spend any more cash.
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