Hi. I recently bought this phone. The No.1. draw in purchasing it was the ability to use a full size usb keyboard with it - for writing emails, etc. (other android phones seem to suggest that this is available or about to become available - but I couldn't get a clear answer on this so I went with the TG01).
It works fine. However, a usb keyboard (rated 50mA) uses up the phone's battery in half an hour! Is there a discreet/compact powered usb hub that I can use to power the keyboard - and still allow the phone access to the keyboard?
My specific scenario means that I have no means to install any software on the pc that I am using (its a work thing).
Looking forward to any further insight that anyone can provide.
borderfox said:
Hi. I recently bought this phone. The No.1. draw in purchasing it was the ability to use a full size usb keyboard with it - for writing emails, etc. (other android phones seem to suggest that this is available or about to become available - but I couldn't get a clear answer on this so I went with the TG01).
It works fine. However, a usb keyboard (rated 50mA) uses up the phone's battery in half an hour! Is there a discreet/compact powered usb hub that I can use to power the keyboard - and still allow the phone access to the keyboard?
My specific scenario means that I have no means to install any software on the pc that I am using (its a work thing).
Looking forward to any further insight that anyone can provide.
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No, This is a major problem with TG01, You can use the port either to charge or to connect to USB Hub or Headphones..
In my opinion, you have the following alternatives:
1- Buy a high capacity battery.
2- Buy a bluetooth keyboad.
Hope this helps.
wafeeq said:
No, This is a major problem with TG01, You can use the port either to charge or to connect to USB Hub or Headphones..
In my opinion, you have the following alternatives:
1- Buy a high capacity battery.
2- Buy a bluetooth keyboad.
Hope this helps.
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Hi wafeeq. Thanks for taking the time out to respond. Is there any other smartphone (or mini tablet) that will do this job with a usb keyboard?
I guess I can go for an extended life battery - I think there is one on the market that is 4x capacity - so thanks for that suggestion.
borderfox said:
I guess I can go for an extended life battery - I think there is one on the market that is 4x capacity - so thanks for that suggestion.
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Having such battery from Mugen ( it is only company I know that makes 2400 and 3900 batteries for tg01 ) You will have bigger back cover ( You can even buy big cover itself - You will save a lot of money. Mugen has very expensive batteries ) so if You know proper person , You can create any junction in it ( maybe with addition of few electronic parts ) to .... charge battery from external charger ( or usb slot from PC or laptop ) in the same time when external battery will be connected to tg01 usb host.
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Friend: The standard mini usb cable (most popular) can be used in extUSB on D2 (Topaz) : Charging is OK and Sync is OK.
Note: I discover It after buy a 2nd cable
Well, I have so many 'standard' USB to mini USB cables I have never even taken the HTC item out of it's box.
However, the pin out on the mini port of the TD2 does allow for other things other than just sync and charge and then a specificaly wired cable would be required.
Common Mini usb works for other stuff too.
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source. Recently (after 3 weeks of use) my data cable began to come apart...
fearing i would have to buy something i couldnt afford and being mad that i have like 50 mini usb cords that i thought were useless, i found this thread and decided to test other features of the standard cable. So far I have found nothing that the cord cannot do.
my 2 cents.
geraldf80 said:
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source.
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Question: are you then using the HTC as a modem? If so, have you ever tried using it as a modem via Bluetooth? I have never managed this and nobody in the General forum has any advice. I can only use it via usb.
No I havent sorry. My laptop don't have bluetooth so the option never presented itself. perhaps searching for bluetooth internet sharing or making a post would be more helpful.. sorry.
On the TD2 you first need to pair your phone to your PC with Bluetooth
And then there's a program called 'Internet Sharing' on my TD2 menu, you just need to pair your phone and change what the internet sharing is going to (BT in this case) and away you go.
I've heard some carriers disable this and make you pay a surcharge for tethering, which I've heard you can get round with a registry hack
(i can't post links but I did google Touch Diamond 2 Bluetooth Internet Sharing)
Another quick and easy way to do it wirelessly is to use a program like WalkingHotSpot, which converts your TD2 into a WiFi hotspot which is my preferred method if i had to go down this path
Good luck!
The additional contacts in the original connector are for the headphones. Not used in USB & Charging.
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
GeScha said:
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
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That is true. I have been searching for a TD2 car charger with its specially profiled connector but could not find one. I am afraid that the standard mini USB connector will damaged the TD2 connector after prolonged use just like what had happened to my 838Pro. You need a little help with the wires and connector when charging or ActiveSync to get them connected.
Whoa this thread is a life saver. I'm in the middle of nowhere and lost my cable so couldn't charge my phone was looking for somewhere to order online it would have cost me at least 2 weeks.
Now i'm using my camera's standard usb cable.
Thank You.
I have all the normal!
Wow, I was kind of shocked, when I tried it - it worked!!! I have bought already 2 special htc oem cables - 1st one was already broken, and have never tried the original mini usb cable since now. It works perfectly too But I suppose if the mini usb cable is used, you have to be more careful for the connector, because there is some free space inside.
i'm using oem hp camera's cable. working fine on my diamond2
Thanks friends.
If you are traveling and need to use GPS, but maps are loaded on a external card and you have your viewpad charging on lighter outlet.
or (my case) you have some serious amount of text to write and you need the keyboard connected as well as your wall mount charger....
Is there any known way to connect the battery charger and a peripheral as keyboard or usb mass storage device at the same time?
I'm thinking about some surgery to the usb-to-miniusb converter that I use to connect my desktop type keyboard to the viewpad, but don't know what could happen to the usb device or the keyboard. Neither know which of the 5 pins (contacts) of the charger is the active one...
Any suggestions?
Tnx in advance.
anothe question....
Ok... since there is no answer over 24hrs, I'll make another question to make this a little more interesting for you people could help me...
Is there any chance to connect a keyboard (already working) plus a SD card at the same time??
I'm making some fun stuff with a keyboard and making some surgery I could install some kind of "external USB Port" on the keyboard.... but, should it work?? I mean, keyboard and flash memory together, connected to one-single miniUSB port....
Developers.... any suggestion??
Thnx again...
Forgett to say.... on Viewpad7 with FROYO 2.2.1
Another idea
Ok, easy people... That bunch of comments about my topic make s me feel kind dizzy...
Just kidding....
Making some research (on goggle, haha!!), I've found that USB port on a pc have a 5volt-500mA output... So, if that's nominal out and that power could charge the viewpad AND don't turn on smoke any peripheral, Then I just have to connect power out on a wall-mount charger to the 1st pin (wire) of a 5 contact miniUSB, regarding on the power out put on 500mA.
(thanks isIran for your assistance )
now... PLEASE SOMEONE STOP ME IF I'M HAVING SOME IDIOTIC, TABLET BRICKING, IDEA!!!!
Thnx again
Hi,
The Viewpad wall charger have a non standard conector, if you look in the contact part you will see double connection.
In the main charger body you will find the pinout:
Pin 1 & 6 +, pin 5 & 10 -
These pins (6&10) are longer than the data pins to ensure that the power connections mate first and un-mate last.
The wall charger is 2 A and the USB PC port only 0.5A (0.9A for USB3)
For this reason a wall charger change in 2 hours and a PC USB in 15 hours.
A dedicated USB charger should short the 2 data lines together. The device will then not attempt to transmit or receive data, but can draw up to 1.8A
for this reason the device know when it's connected to a computer or to a dedicated charger (like a Garmin GPS)
Probably modifiying a connector (or keyboard) to provide energy and data will work.
Did you try a USB hub?
Less us know the result of your experience.
cheers
You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
ecossais said:
You could solve the keyboard problem by using a bluetooth keyboard and you can charge the tab on the USB port at the same time.
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Right, this solve one problem, but is much expensive and less fun... Besides, didn't solve the flash drive plus charger issue...
About pins 6 &10... Just noticed that (in over a year never look that closer the charger pin).
I'll try usb hub, but I'm afraid to burn some flash drive or worst...
Thanx for your interest and helpful advice...
I use PDAnet tons of times on my Droid 3, since I moved on to a better phone, I wanted to use it as well. Problem here is, My battery drains fast as hell, Normally I though the port isn't providing enough power to keep up with the draining but I used my desktop which has USB 3.0 and High power ports and still the same issue.
I already experience issues with this phone and planning to get a replacement but I'm just wondering if Anyone else has this issue and will it continue with my new ReZound?
our phone isn't a usb 3.0 device, so it can't take advantage of the extra power.
solution (level: Dealwithit)-- i found turning the screen off at least keeps power use down on the phone enough to keep it level, or gain at least a tiny bit of charge. I use wifi-tether like this, net is 0mA or ~+15mA.
solution (level: Awesome)-- make a hack usb driver for windows that just forces 1A down the pipe rather than waiting for the device to request it
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solution (level: Awesome)-- make a hack usb driver for windows that just forces 1A down the pipe rather than waiting for the device to request it
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You can shove all you want down the pipe, the phone won't use it unless it's tricked into AC charge mode.
mjones73 said:
You can shove all you want down the pipe, the phone won't use it unless it's tricked into AC charge mode.
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I'll have to confirm, but my belief is the usb host is what dictates how much is ultimately sent... obviously it does this according to the specifications, so presumably the dumb connector just takes whatever it can get... I'd be surprised if a usb device would double check the current it's receiving from a host that has follows the spec... especially when the same port we know can take an AC charge. I have an external portable battery charger, that when it's max, it can deliver the full 1A, but as the external source drops in charge, it delivers less - so it doesn't maul it's own battery, when the external supply starts to deliver less, the phone reports USB charging mode. so I'm wondering if it just reports ac/usb based on how much mA it's getting through the port anyway.
Firstly, whats the correct term? Is it a magnetic port/plug/connector????
Anyway Main question: What can it do?
Can it be used for connection to laptop for file transfers etc????
If yes to that, what about MHL (think thats right, the micro usb - hdmi)?
Just wanna keep them little doors shut at all times, if it cant do data then that doors gonna get opened a lot and probably damaged rather quickly
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Firstly, whats the correct term? Is it a magnetic port/plug/connector????
Anyway Main question: What can it do?
Can it be used for connection to laptop for file transfers etc????
If yes to that, what about MHL (think thats right, the micro usb - hdmi)?
Just wanna keep them little doors shut at all times, if it cant do data then that doors gonna get opened a lot and probably damaged rather quickly
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It connects to the magnetic dock. Yup, you can do file transfer between laptop and phone WITH the dock.
There's also a wi-fi dock by Sony, with which your phone charges and you can also transfer files via wifi while doing so.
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It connects to the magnetic dock. Yup, you can do file transfer between laptop and phone WITH the dock.
There's also a wi-fi dock by Sony, with which your phone charges and you can also transfer files via wifi while doing so.
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Pretty sure the Magnetic Dock only charges the phone.. To make use of the magnetic charging port on the phone, you can either get Sony's official DK36 magnetic charging dock, or you can get an after market magnetic charging cable... But you can never transfer data out of the magnetic port - it can only be used for charging.
The only way to get data from a physical cable out of the phone is via the microUSB port on the phone which is covered by the big flap. This will also charge the phone at the same time.
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Pretty sure the Magnetic Dock only charges the phone.. To make use of the magnetic charging port on the phone, you can either get Sony's official DK36 magnetic charging dock, or you can get an after market magnetic charging cable... But you can never transfer data out of the magnetic port - it can only be used for charging.
The only way to get data from a physical cable out of the phone is via the microUSB port on the phone which is covered by the big flap. This will also charge the phone at the same time.
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That leads me to the question (just curious): Can you connect the micro USB and the magnetic charging port at the same time?
illphone said:
That leads me to the question (just curious): Can you connect the micro USB and the magnetic charging port at the same time?
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I'm not too sure on that one. I suppose if you wanted to charge the phone as fast as possible by using the dock and you wanted to do file transfers at the same time by using the USB port.
But i'm not too sure what would happen if you use both the magnetic port and the microUSB port on the phone at the same time.. You'd certainly hope that the phone wont explode.. I can only assume the phone will only let one one source [ie: the Micro USB port or the Magnetic Port] charge the battery at any given time. But i have no idea : )
cheers guys, thats a shame. i suppose it will help with the lifespan of the doors but woulda been a hell of a lot more use if it could transfer data...... oh well lets hope sony have that sorted by the time the z6 comes out (at the rate of one every 6 months thatll be my upgrade in 2 years) or that in that time they manage to make an open waterproof micro usb socket
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cheers guys, thats a shame. i suppose it will help with the lifespan of the doors but woulda been a hell of a lot more use if it could transfer data...... oh well lets hope sony have that sorted by the time the z6 comes out (at the rate of one every 6 months thatll be my upgrade in 2 years) or that in that time they manage to make an open waterproof micro usb socket
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You can check out wireless (WiFi) transfer apps. I know AirDroid is a popular one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
It has pretty amazing capabilities. Maybe it will be good enough for you so you won't even have to use the USB cable very often...
JMonkeYJ said:
You can check out wireless (WiFi) transfer apps. I know AirDroid is a popular one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
It has pretty amazing capabilities. Maybe it will be good enough for you so you won't even have to use the USB cable very often...
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i suppose thats an option, i tried them before on my note, but they werent that good, took forever..... maybe theyve improved somewhat by now
Hey all.
I broke my nook tablet's cable accidentally.
Can anyone tell me what type of usb it is? It's not the usual micro usb type all the android cellphones have.
I'm from mumbai. Please tell me where i can get nook tablet's original usb cable or replica .
kumar009 said:
Hey all.
I broke my nook tablet's cable accidentally.
Can anyone tell me what type of usb it is? It's not the usual micro usb type all the android cellphones have.
I'm from mumbai. Please tell me where i can get nook tablet's original usb cable or replica .
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It actually is microUSB. I lost my OEM cable (which is slightly different, i think they added a couple pins to enable fast charging) but I use a motorola cable and it works fine for charging. it just takes a ridiculously long time and it doesnt charge while you're using it. unless you have a B&N store around you (which i'm going to assume you don't) you can't really get a new cable. maybe online but i wouldn't do it, chinese cables are cheap, bad, and potentially dangerous
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It actually is microUSB. I lost my OEM cable (which is slightly different, i think they added a couple pins to enable fast charging) but I use a motorola cable and it works fine for charging. it just takes a ridiculously long time and it doesnt charge while you're using it. unless you have a B&N store around you (which i'm going to assume you don't) you can't really get a new cable. maybe online but i wouldn't do it, chinese cables are cheap, bad, and potentially dangerous
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yeah the B&N store or its products are not available here in local markets or online stores.
I am gonna try charge it on the regular micro usb cable. thanks for your suggestions.
@skepticmisfit
hi, it worked well. I switched the tablet off, put it plugged in all night to my laptop, and by morning at 9 it was fully charged.
Thanks for your suggestion. :good::good::fingers-crossed:
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@skepticmisfit
hi, it worked well. I switched the tablet off, put it plugged in all night to my laptop, and by morning at 9 it was fully charged.
Thanks for your suggestion. :good::good::fingers-crossed:
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Yes the B&N cables are special, the pins are longer and more of them to tell the nook to fast charge. But as you found out, any micro USB cable can work, just slow slow charge it. And you can't use the device and charge at the same time as you will be using more energy than is being supplied. Oh another help is to turn off wifi when charging from USB, having that on will have the device charge slower as the the radio will be accessed occasionally.
I did find this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMMPDT4/ref=twister_B00FMMOSYU the connector looks longer than standard USB so perhaps it would work. I can't say for certain of course. I also saw used Nook Tablet power adapater/cable sets on amazon as well (original OEM). And a final suggestion would be to get one from ebay. I have seen a few there as well.
I am surprised B&N won't ship the cable at all. Seems like they would want to sell/move them. I was looking at them the other day and you can see how the V2 is from the photo. The connector on the nook side is not long and easy to snap off/apply stress to like the original. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-color-new-cable/27359237?ean=9780594459453
If anyone ever gets the KS cable, please post so we know it works for sure. It looks like it will, and I may even contact them to see. I think the biggest problem with the original nook color/tablet cables was the nook connector was too long/straight and easy for people to break (that and the connector wasn't reinforced like it should have been).
@skepticmisfit
I see some sellers from china who can ship the cable to my local address. I'll see if I can get a good one.
Also, keeping the cable connected to the laptop's USB 3.0 port is useful. :good::good::good:
kumar009 said:
@skepticmisfit
I see some sellers from china who can ship the cable to my local address. I'll see if I can get a good one.
Also, keeping the cable connected to the laptop's USB 3.0 port is useful. :good::good::good:
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Have you got the Nook Tablet USB cable??? can you provide me some links..
Thanks
mac4rfree said:
Have you got the Nook Tablet USB cable??? can you provide me some links..
Thanks
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No. It seems i don't need a nook's stupid cable at all. The tablet gets charged on usb 2.0 port too. I am using the CM11 nightilies ROM and gapps minimal, that is efficient in terms of battery usage.
kumar009 said:
No. It seems i don't need a nook's stupid cable at all. The tablet gets charged on usb 2.0 port too. I am using the CM11 nightilies ROM and gapps minimal, that is efficient in terms of battery usage.
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Does it fast charge? I thought the NT would only fast charge if you use the B&N cable? Or is the fast charging lock to their cable only work with the stock ROM?
Hi,
I have lost my nook charger, please help. Where I can find & which shop.
shubhrawale said:
Hi,
I have lost my nook charger, please help. Where I can find & which shop.
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You don't really need a replacement Nook charger, any 5V 2A USB wall-charger plug and a regular micro-USB cable would do although it would take a bit longer to charge.
While Digi is right, there are official Nook cables and chargers (refurbished) on ebay at the moment. You can still get the cables from Barnes and Noble but I don't know if they will ship to India or not. I would try searching for "nook tablet" on ebay.
Also if you are going the generic charger/cable route, be sure to have the screen and wifi off while charging. If you have the screen on, it will discharge faster than you can charge it.
One final note, even if you are going to get a official charger (which I would recommend as it is so much faster) it would be wise to plug it in to a generic cable/charger combo for now. It is NEVER good to leave the Nook laying around with a dead battery. It will kill the battery in short order. And it is harder to get a Nook Tablet going again with a generic charger if the battery gets too low (shuts down on you).