Hey everyone, currently i have HTC desire and i'm about to buy a new phone... Which phone should i get? Galaxy S II,evo 3d or optimus 3d? The most thing i care about is the hardware,which phone is faster and of course updates... I've heard that galaxy s2 and optimus 3d are both great phones, but i need to pick the right one as i wont be buying another phone for a few months One thing i dont like about the galaxy s tho, is the 3 buttons. The standard buttons for an android phone are 4, right? dunno if that will lead to any probs in some apps? anyways, hope you guys can help me out to pick the right phone
Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Hmm great answer bud, and no, I'm really not that much into 3d. I'm really considering to buy this phone when it comes out, i just hope they will care enough to update their software when a new android version is out. Another reason too buy this phone is that, here in norway we will get the Exynos version that is running at 1,2 GHz.
Put 3D, AMOLED and CPU aside, i'll still favour SGSII over an HTC/LG phone because of its superior camera and audio quality.
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However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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This is so true.
btw does anyone know how many multitouch it supports?
i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
I'm also on the HTC desire, and the memory issues have forced me to set A2SD (SLOW) in order to make the phone useable.
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
I'm going for the Galaxy S 2. Amazing g camera, I love the build quality, I like the slim design, and the speed will be awesome.
They're all great phones but I don't really need aa 3D display, nor do I want one. I life in a 3D world, I don't want my movies to be in 3D, it takes away from the experience.
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IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
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The Desire and Nexus One were the last devices HTC put that pathetic touch screen on. The latest thing I heard HTC used was the Maxtouch, which supposedly supports "unlimited" (probably 10-16) touches.
Even so, I still would get the SGSII. It just seems amazing.
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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HTC launches 5 phones to beat the competition and Samsung release one phone....like Samsung Galaxy s was most selling Android Device ever...mean while HTC release a new phone every month like crazy....lol....LG has some good android phones but none can beat galaxy S series..so forget about Galaxy S2....I use galaxy S and I am telling you i cannot live without SAMOLED screen...just imagine advance version of that...
Even in this comparison between HTC sensation and SGS 2,......I think Samsung beat HTC again......Even tho I dont know how good TouchWiz 4.0 will be...But still it will be better then HTC sense...And I am hoping it will be easy to root and Custom Rommed as Current galaxy S series...Looking forward to buy this phone...
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Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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well, i dont know aswell, if the chip is based on smaller nm scale then yeah that would probably make a bit more sense as it would require less voltage, but i have no information about the chip differences right now.
Just a waiting game until the device is out.
If OC'ing this device does actually occur (which it eventually would), then I wonder the affect it would have on the battery. Although, I think having Dual Core 1.2Ghz is quite sufficient at the moment.
I guess there will be diffrent profiles so you can change clock and volt.
So it takes less power on standby .
On my Noka N900 i have a widget so i can change overclock in seconds.
950mhz when surfing and when i need to save batteri i choise another profile ..
C'mon this thing is a savage beast ! I would rather think of Underclocking it ! Exynos Dual core at 1Ghz should be sufficient to do EVERYTHING you can do on an android smartphone and that includes the most demanding games and every task you can imagine, I mean just watch all the vids of those prototypes runnig buttery smooth and they're all running at 1Ghz
OMG I can't wait this is so epic
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I personally don't fancy the new SGS for the following reason:
SGS2 scores on stock rom 100 points more in Quadrant than my SGS1(~1500). Dual cores are not going to be used for the next 1 year, only a few minor apps.
So why should I buy SGS2?
For bigger screen? 4.0 is already big enough in my pocket.
Samoled+? I don't think it's so much nicer, the one without + is awesome enough!
I don't see too much improvement in SGS2, I'd rather give Optimus 3d a go!
Are you one of those people who decided to stick with 32-bit processors because there's not much to gain from buying a 64-bit one?
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Haha, lol no I have 64bit.
I'm talking about the fact, that dual cores are not going to be used too much until the end of this year. Devs are making apps to popular phones/systems. They will only implement dual core acceleration if they see it's enough users.
So for 1 year you'll only see several apps using dual core, so it won't worth buying. Only reason to buy is maybe multitasking. But that's alone is not enough for me.
I would buy it because the Captivate was so well supported by Developers and made the Captivate an amazing device. Atrix looks like a fail out the gate not allowing kernel development.
So far i like what I see here...although Samsung is not customer centirc in the US anyway.
A lot of devices will be available on ATT this year 11 Android phones. Lots to choose from
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I personally don't fancy the new SGS for the following reason:
SGS2 scores on stock rom 100 points more in Quadrant than my SGS1(~1500). Dual cores are not going to be used for the next 1 year, only a few minor apps.
So why should I buy SGS2?
For bigger screen? 4.0 is already big enough in my pocket.
Samoled+? I don't think it's so much nicer, the one without + is awesome enough!
I don't see too much improvement in SGS2, I'd rather give Optimus 3d a go!
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1) Why are people so obsessed with a synthetic benchmark?! It's just stupid. My HTC Desire gets 2100 and it lags more than my San Francisco (~900), it proves nothing. Furthermore the Exynos is rather new, I'm sure there is a lot of headroom for optimisation in the driver department.
2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
3) About the screen read here. It will be nicer by a fair amount.
I assume that even if apps won't immediately be using both cores to their advantage, the Samsung system will, considering... well, it's natively made for that particular model.
There will probably be some sort of system or optimization that will separate tasks for the Android system (or parts of it) to use one core, and applications to use the other core (or possibly use both if the option is enabled).
Hell, at this point, for all we know, the system is completely optimized for this dual core process and controls every aspect so not only is the entire phone running at it's most efficiency with the cores in respect, but it's also possibly saving battery life.
Hard to know considering the specs were only released a while ago. It also doesn't help that there's only one other dual-core phone that is out right now to compare, and it was only released a few days ago, so developers still have to see how exactly the Android system handles the technology.
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1) Why are people so obsessed with a synthetic benchmark?! It's just stupid. My HTC Desire gets 2100 and it lags more than my San Francisco (~900), it proves nothing. Furthermore the Exynos is rather new, I'm sure there is a lot of headroom for optimisation in the driver department.
2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
3) About the screen read here. It will be nicer by a fair amount.
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Just a bit of fix here, just a bit of improvement there, I see no inventional feature in the SGS2 to make me buy it. On the other hand, Lg....
I will tell you why you want the new device:
Because you got a thing for shiny new gadgets like all of us!
You must resist the force.
I want to get this one because I am fed up with my SE Walkman 580i. Perfectly valid reason I think ?
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2) A single app may not be using boh two cores at the moment. But are you running a single app on your phone at once? No. You're running an app, lots of services, broadcast receivers, and the system itself. Enough to keep both cores busy.
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Yes allow me to agree here
Multicore support is already there in linux.
Should also be used on some native linux apps.
Looks from http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html that only the java apps don't benefit from it yet.
Well if you're not looking to future proof yourself, then obviously the galaxy s II isn't marketed to you. >.> So no reason for you to buy it then.
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is it just me or is this a Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus.
Not Super Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus (Thats what I would like to see)
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3) About the screen read . It will be nicer by a fair amount.
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is it just me or is this a Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus.
Not Super Amoled vs Super Amoled Plus (Thats what I would like to see)[/QUOTE]
It is my understanding that super amoled is just and amoled screen with built in touch screen instead of a separate layer.
Either way though, the pentile layout is the same, so that picture is still indicative of the improvement.
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It is my understanding that super amoled is just and amoled screen with built in touch screen instead of a separate layer.
Either way though, the pentile layout is the same, so that picture is still indicative of the improvement.
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I thought SuperAmoled Plus did away with Pentile Matrix and instead uses RGB striping like regular LCD screens.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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I am actually considering the SGS 2 and lg optimus 3D ( for the 3d screen and camera )
Regarding SGS 2
I am hoping cause its similiar to the NExus S, It will be easily rooted and more support from devs
Also being dual core and having nfc support its future proof as most of you know in uk you have to sign for 24 months contract
regardless of the fact that there may not be much apps optimised for dual core, I am sure the current apps should run pretty fast cause of the dual cores and multi tasking should be a breeze.
And I for one love big screens ( having a HTC HD 7) I just love the browsing experience on big screens
But windows need a major overhaul and my HTC Hero is becoming History pretty soon
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I thought SuperAmoled Plus did away with Pentile Matrix and instead uses RGB striping like regular LCD screens.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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It does? That's what I said... Both AMOLED and Super AMOLED use pentile, so the comparison to Super AMOLED Plus is still valid.
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It does? That's what I said... Both AMOLED and Super AMOLED use pentile, so the comparison to Super AMOLED Plus is still valid.
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I must have read your post wrong. I thought you said superamoled plus.
The thing is you are paying for hardware that is either not yet supported or not for immediate use.
NFC is but one. It's an expensive add-on that won't really see any benefit until the industry adopts it.
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The thing is you are paying for hardware that is either not yet supported or not for immediate use.
NFC is but one. It's an expensive add-on that won't really see any benefit until the industry adopts it.
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The price of future-proofing youtself? For Asian countries I'm sure this will be a welcome move.
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The price of future-proofing youtself? For Asian countries I'm sure this will be a welcome move.
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Maybe so, but not at the expense of everyone else who won't get to see or use the technology.
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Alright i have a Samsung Galaxy S and will be upgrading to a new device but torn between so many phones. I'm with Bell Canada and so far my choices are as follows:
HTC Raider LTE
Samsung Galaxy S II 4G
Google Galaxy Nexus
LG Optimus LTE
Each phone has its flaws:
Raider
preformed slow in benchmark test vs SGSII
Crappy Battery
SGSII
Not LTE
only wvga and not qHD/HD (720P)
Galaxy Nexus
No micro SD and worse camera then SGSII
Optimus LTE
LG has a bad track record for updates and hardware(never like LG Phones)
Each Phone has it qualities:
Raider
Sence vs Touchwiz (I think Sence is better integrated in the OS the Touchwiz)
qHD
Think HTC has better built quality the Samsung
SGSII
Super AMOLED
Better Benchmarks then Raider
Galaxy Nexus
Android 4.0 ICS
HD Display
Stock Google (no bloatware like Sence or Touchwiz)
LG Optimus LTE
LTE
HD Display
Lite wait integration so similar to AOSP.
Things I'm looking for in a superphone, browsing the web without delay. Quick app launches, Graphics for games, Battery life that last a full day with moderate to heavy usage. XDA Dev support, I guess this is the biggest if there are no Dev's making custom ROM/Kernels then the phone is not worth it. I don't think 16GB (13GB Usable) is enough for me with all my music and apps so Miro SD is a must unless internal is 32GB.
You could further limit your choices to the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy Nexus. Here's a comparison: http://10division.com/samsung-galax...xy-s2-the-complete-ultimate-comparison-guide/ and a benchmark: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352839. Even though the Galaxy Nexus scored higher in the benchmark, don't be deceived. ICS was optimized for dual core, so when the SGS2 gets ICS, many people believe it will knock out the Galaxy Nexus. At the moment the SGS2 has more development going on. Hope your choice is a bit easier .
ohh i agree these these phones are still new and it will take till Feb/March to actually seem some good solid development.
But no it does not make my choice easier, because ICS on SGS is most likey 6 or so months away. It terms of integration i would rather have Google stock then touchwiz as i find it bloated and ugly (too iPhoneish). By far the best integration is HTC Sense but then it also uses more resources.
I wonder is there is stable CyogenMOD for SGSII coz that will solve some problems.
I think it boils down between the Raider and SGSII. Maybe i'm just favoring HTC as i own a few samsung devices (Omnia 2, Wave, Galaxy 7500, Galaxy S) and and find they always have stupid limitations. Where as i never owned HTC but they tend to listen to the customer and try to give you best of the best in both hardware and software, but never owning one i could be shooting myself in the foot.
ARG still very much undesired.
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But no it does not make my choice easier, because ICS on SGS is most likey 6 or so months away.
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Actually, it's closer than you think. ICS is confirmed for the SGS2 for December 2011.
Source: http://androidadvices.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-mobiles-tablets-announcement-table/.
Yeah but that's most likely Europe, Canada (Bell Canada) didn't get Gingerbread until 2.3.3. So if the trend is the same its going to be at least 6 months from the first ICS release.
I only saw one firmware release of Froyo and one release of Gingerbread in Canada in the last 2 years. So we tend to laggy behind, don't know who is to blame Samsung or Bell but that's the way it has always been here.
The specs on the LG Optimus LTE make it difficult to ignore. I want to see one of these before I pass judgement.
Hmm I would take HTC cause I don't trust Samsung and LG enough. They don't convinced me by their previous devices.
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I'm in the market for a new phone too and looking into whats what. Did you consider the Sensation XE? I've been totally sold on SENSE but since a couple of weeks on CM with a decent launcher and widgets I can't go back to SENSE. This is on my current Desire HD. Now I'm free to choose anything that has good CM support. But in the end I swayed to XE because of the battery capacity and smaller screen compared to Nexus. CM looks pretty active on the native Sensation.
I've read today that some Samsung Galaxy Nexus have problems with volume. It's still not known the reason (hw or sw) but it seems that if two SGN are near, the volume calls of one influences the other one sound volume.
Google it to have more infos.
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I'm in the market for a new phone too and looking into whats what. Did you consider the Sensation XE? I've been totally sold on SENSE but since a couple of weeks on CM with a decent launcher and widgets I can't go back to SENSE. This is on my current Desire HD. Now I'm free to choose anything that has good CM support. But in the end I swayed to XE because of the battery capacity and smaller screen compared to Nexus. CM looks pretty active on the native Sensation.
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Bell does not have the Sensation XE, I'm still leaning towards the Raider and if sense starts to slow it down then i can always go CM that is if the Dev's support it. Don't even have a fourm for it here on XDA, sure have the HTC vivid but i would like its own fourm. Samsung's SGSII look good but it still samsung they don't have the best integration with the OS and somethings do not work.
LG i can't say never owned one but reading about LG support it seems it worse then Samsung.
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Samsung's SGSII look good but it still samsung they don't have the best integration with the OS and somethings do not work.
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Do you have any proof of this?
On paper the optimus lte is the best phone to get, assuming ics update comes out for it. I had the phone on order and will be canceling it tomorrow. Why? Well...what we didn't know till now is the actual processor used in the phone. Whereas the galaxy nexus uses an omap 1.5ghz clocked down to 1.2ghz, which saves battery life (and could be oc'd again if you root it), the optimus lte actually uses an outdated apq8060 qualcomm processor which is rated at 1.2ghz. They've then over clocked it to reach 1.5ghz. That leads to huge battery drain, giving the phone a 3 hour battery life compared to 6 hours on the galaxy nexus.
I don't know why lg did this. The phone it was designed to co Pete with, the galaxy s2 hd lte (which is released in Korea only so far) runs the msm8660 processor at a stock 1.5ghz, and is able to provide just over 5 hours of talk time. Again...compared to just 3 hours on the optimus lte. It's a ridiculous move by lg and ruined a phone that had a "lot" of potential.
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Its not 'that' outdated .
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Its not 'that' outdated .
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I should have clarified....outdated for a phone that's trying to be the #1 in terms of hardware and processing power. The fact they went with the apq8060 instead of the msm8660 at the very least is disappointing.
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I should have clarified....outdated for a phone that's trying to be the #1 in terms of hardware and processing power. The fact they went with the apq8060 instead of the msm8660 at the very least is disappointing.
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Still faster than the Galaxy Nexus.
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Still faster than the Galaxy Nexus.
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How do you figure? Speed has nothing to do with the MHz or GHz. Different architectures can do more work per cycle than others. The CPU in this phone is so bad that it will die after 1 hour and 25 minutes of streaming a Netflix video. Whereas the iPhone can pull about 6 hours.
TI's omap processors are far better than the current qualcomm s3 chips. Samsung's exynos is better even yet. Maybe when the s4 krait quad-2.5ghz come out they'll do better as they're 28nm as opposed to 45nm on the current chips. But then the exynos will beat it out again.
I spent 5 hours of my day playing around with this phone. Everything about it is quite decent. Feels great in my hand. Super light weight. Beautiful display. Better browser and benchmarks than other similar phones. But has like half the battery life too...at unacceptable levels. Skip this phone.
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P.s. I should add that the galaxy nexus is far outperforming this phone in benchmarks. And it is running a 1.5ghz chip that's been Downclocked to 1.2ghz. So you could always set it back to stock speeds and get a 20% performance boost in non-gpu activities. Once the nexus launches in early December I'll get to test it out for myself but from all the tests I've seen, the only problem you could have with the phone is that it's a super amoled, and not a super amoled plus screen. Though at 720p that may not be such a huge issue.
I've had many Samsung phones and then made the switch to the HTC sensation 4G. Forget the fact that it is thicker and oh so much heavier then Samsung phones. But Sense as pretty as it is takes way to much power, and battery life is non existent! People would constantly complain of sound quality and had many dropped calls. Took me almost 4 months to understand, but once i did i ran back to samsung and am now sporting the Tmobile SGSII and it is lighter, thinner, oh so much faster! and smoother then the Sensation. everyone noticed an improved voice quality and no more dropped calls!
Can I nip this question in please!
Between the SGS2 and Sensation XE if both are running say CM7 at approx the same CPU, which one would likely have a better battery life?
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Can I nip this question in please!
Between the SGS2 and Sensation XE if both are running say CM7 at approx the same CPU, which one would likely have a better battery life?
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The Samsung Galaxy SII.
i suggest get the Samsung Galaxy S2. its like having a laptop putting it in a compact Smartphone. S2 does it all from gaming, entertainment, document editing etc.
Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.
do u all think that S3 should be bought by the user who already uses an
S2.
S3 specs are:- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| S2 specs are:-
1280x720p super amoled hd(not plus)|||||||||||| 800x480 super amoled plus
1.4ghz exynos quad core(28nm)||||||||||||||||| 1.2 ghz exynos dual core(45or32)
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1gb ram ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 1gb ram
and customized interface.(new touchwiz)|||||||| touchwiz ux(4)
should S3 be purchased by an enthusiast if he already owns an
Galaxy S2????
S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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thats what i was thinking.
cause the camera is the same old 8 mp cmos sensor but flatpanel.
just the screen size,resolution and the processor has been changed.
so i think would stick to my S2 for one year more and wait for S4.
my DAD will be happy that this year his wallet will not be empty like last 2 years.
Other than the screen and battery, there's nothing I want over s2 TBH. When's the last time you found s2's CPU struggle with anything? Now what you going to do with a quad core CPU that put some laptops to shame?
I know most S2 users will say it's not worth it, but after reading both the engadget and androidcentral coverage (and also technobuffalo and pocketnow) I have come to the conclusion:
I want it.
First of all, this is not iPhone 4->4S. The only thing there was a dual core in stead of single core processor and the camera. No DESIGN changes, it looked the same. No screen changes, it looked the same.
My initial feeling was mixed. First I wasn't amazed by the design. After seeing more and more articles and more and more pictures/videos, I changed my mind. That "metallic blue" colour is very nice, I like the home button design, the curved edges. The only thing I'm not amazed about is the back, but it's ok.
Hardware wise I'm happy. People with the S2, I understand you doubting if it's worth the upgrade from an S2. But some people on the net saying the hardware is total "****" should be locked up. People expect WAY to much. 2 years ago I would have only dreamed about such specs. While my S2 is no slow guy, I am starting so see room for improvements. It's slow some times, not a lot but ok. Also the change from WVGA to 720p res is a great thing, even if it's "pentile". Another small but maybe unknown detail is the S3 uses a "wolfson" soundchip or how it's called, so supercurio already tweeted we can expect amazing sound quality.
Atm I"m enjoying my S2 and somewhere in June/July I might get the S3. Like I said a while ago, standard pattern of most humans:
Initial disappointment, after a while start changing their minds, buy the phone anyway, start loving it hardcore mode. Every year. People usually focus only on specs on paper, but start seeing the small details later. And off course actually holding the phone in your hand, that's when the magic chicks in ^^
Of course it's worth buying the SIII. They upgraded the best feature in the world: pink spot right in the middle of the photos.
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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You will buy this phone, just wait till you come out and you hear all the good things about it, you won't be able to resist. You will find things in your pockets
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S3 to the S2 is what the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4
Look at the main differences, they are only software oriented... The only upgrade is maybe the camera, the quad core cpu (with same gpu) and the led notification light... The super amoled hd is a pentile screen...
Not digging my pockets this year
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And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Features like Smart Stay, SVoice etc are so awesome, worth buying!!!
+Notification LED
I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
no . its not worth-it unlike iphone user who need to wait apple decision to add features . .. we dont hope the s-voice, s-memo and the other software inprovement excluding touchwiz will be ported to our beloved galaxy s2 okay2 maybe touchw's icons just for the sake of refeshment
SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
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And what changes did you expected?
The hardware upgrade is nice, the online thing i dont like is the design. its so 2008 :-(
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Have you seen good renders/official pictures of it?
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-was-it-worth-the-wait
It's beautiful imo.
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SGS III forum here.
Do we really need to flood the SGS2 pages with floods of opinions about another device - which won't be released for four weeks - when one can do so on said device's dedicated forum?
No we don't IMO...
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
It's common sense this will be discussed here.
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I just wanted to see what does Supercurio do with Voodoo!
S3 has a wolfson, thats enough reason for me to switch
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Exactly .... and the special thing thing is the chip is better than the one in sgs.
Generally people will never have the mind to update their previous flagship, adding the poor design for sgs3 the upgrade will be slower from sgs2 users.
If you like HD screen, capture more photos, better battery life then you can switch to sgs3 without a doubt.
People haven't read the initial review from anandtech and gsmarena, this sgs3 blows the competitors with wide margin . The only drawback I would say is the back panel design.
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Oh come on it's one thread. No flood.
It's common sense this will be discussed here.
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That must be why I've found 4 threads here already then.
Don't see that it's "common sense" at all - that's what the dedicated forum for the SGS III is for....
Anyway, see the last post here - when a mod says discussion goes on relevant thread, end of story.
Bet this thread will be locked anyway.
Having gotten the original Galaxy S and SII, I was greatly anticipating the SIII even though I was very impressed with the HTC One X.
After seeing the device, I have to say I'll be getting the One X instead. I waited and waited but was ultimately disappointed.
This new device is pretty ugly. How can the company that made the elegant Galaxy Nexus also make the chintzy, cheap-looking Galaxy SIII? Seriously -- the Galaxy SII actually looks better with its more pronounced edges -- the curved appearance of the SIII reminds me a lot of the Galaxy S -- in other words, the design went backwards. At least the iPhone 4s retained what was a good-looking design.
That's not the only thing that went backwards: the display technology Samsung is using on the SII is superior to the Pentile display of the SIII even if the resolution is lesser. What's more, in real world use, the SIII will probably not be that much better than the One X. Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the front camera also has a slightly smaller sensor, doesn't it (1.9Mpix vs. 2.0Mpix)?
Moreover, whereas other manufacturers are exploring the use of new processes and materials for its builds (Apple is allegedly planning to use new materials and processes on its iPhone and HTC already used a different set on its new One series), Samsung has stuck to ugly, glossy plastic.
What's bizarre is that if you look at Samsung's other offerings, like its televisions, it isn't afraid of producing elegant, spartan designs. There's nothing elegant or spartan about the Galaxy SIII, it's just cheesy.
Also, while I thought Touchwiz 4 was passable enough, the new TouchWiz looks like a disaster waiting to happen. You can already tell there's going to be a ton of crapware on the i9300. Where's the evolution? Why persist with the iPhone knock-off design sensibility when Android has already moved forward? Why insist on a very ugly hardware home button when Sammy itself shipped the first ICS sandwich with virtual buttons?
Rather than going for an ICS-influenced look which was meant to unify the appearance of the OS across devices and manufacturers, Samsung doubled-down on the most-critiqued software feature of its devices. Also, as one can see from the various hands-on videos, they even retained the Gingerbread-green battery icons!
At least HTC had the good sense to tweak SenseUI heavily to give its users a good user experience while incorporating just enough ICS to please the Android purists. Just looking at the TW5, you know it'll be another invasive, ugly experience from Samsung.
The only redeeming quality the SIII seems to have is its SoC, which is why some are saying its an evolutionary rather than revolutionary update.
So, sorry, Sammy. You aren't getting my money this year.
Better stay away from xda,internet for some time
If i say just once that I need new phone, I am kicked out of house
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i'm pretty disappointed with the Galaxy S3 to be honest.
1. looks like a piece of soap.
2. screen is pentile
3. hardware buttons (really samsung?)
4. fat bezel
5. a9 battery sucker instead of a a15 for the sake of marketing
6. crapwiz
it's a galaxy SIIs. I'm gonna wait for the next Nexus. just my $0,02
In my opinion, SG3 not really a idea phone to buy if you already have SG2. Because:
1. Still not need quad core yet.
2. 4.8inch too big for "mobile" phone. Almost size of Samsung Note.
3. Same camera MP.
4. Ugly and non pro design.
The only things that interest me is the NFC technology.
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3. Same camera MP.
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i can't believe that there still people thinking that image quality is measured in megapixel. it's 2012.... we should be over this now. people like you are the reason why the sgs3 has a inefficient quad instead of a a15 dual. CUZ M O O OOOAR IS B E TTARRR!
I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
Pointless. This video was posted weeks ago.
I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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I found this video, as I was comparing the benefits of S3 over an S2.
I thought, that the 4 cores would have made a difference in opening apps and surfing with the browser.
But there is hardly any difference??
Do you think, that the developers will work towards the 4-core processors or not?
I think it will take another few years, till the quadcore will be used appropriately. Till then, the S3 will be replaced by newer models.
As sad as it is, most probably quadcore development will start as soon as apple decides using quadcores.
What do you think about this video? And what benefits are left to buy the S3 if everything is the same?
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i dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Totally agree.
well as android move forward, google will have no choice but to add 4 core support in jelly bean
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
Regardless if the SII is slower or not....being a dual core up against a brand new quad core.....the SII is a bad ass.
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Yeah the OP is right Quad-Core is useless lets ditch the Quad, Hex core CPU and lets go back to the good old E5300.
I can't believe people, honestly.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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No one is saying that. It's just useless for this generation until software starts actually being able to use it in the future.
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Yep this is what I was saying.
I think the 2GB RAM and maybe LTE would have been more effective for this generation, than the quadcore. The Koreans are rumored to have both Perks
dont agree with u on that. S2, no doubt is still among the top phones in the world but not after release of S3! S3 has quad core, it opens apps in almost double the time it used to open on my s2 or even Note! as far as the development for the quad core is concerned, samsung is a pretty mean and biased manufacturers when it comes to taking the crown in almost any field! they would not let any smartphone beat their flagship at least until the release of S4! what i found after using my S3 for 4 days is that quad cores of s3 are actually not fully unleashed until now, thats the reason samsung is not giving out new roms with real good performance boosts! samsung is working on providing the best possible roms and updates to the s3! it would not leave its flagship alone! i did exactly everything the guy in the video was doing and i find my s3 much faster than his! and btw, i have not rooted or flashed the phone at all untill now! its just out of the box rom!
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Oh is your S3 faster than the one in the Video?
SGS2 - 800x480 = 384,000 pixels
SGS3 - 1280x720= 921,600 pixels
what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
I like poketnow, but I do think this video and the whole notion of the s3 being as fast as the s2 is wrong in my opinion I got my s3 a few days ago, and I still have and use my s2 clocked at 1.4ghz, and it is defiantly more laggy and slower. Web rendering was so much faster and smoother (although it was just as smooth as GB used to be on the s2 before Samsung screwed up ICS for the s2), and opening the same cpu intensive apps put the s2 to shame. Yes when opening things like the phone, or messaging app there was no difference and I won't expect them to be, as how it opens instantaneously on my s2 anyway, so there is so room for speed improvements. Also, I remember sites saying there wasn't much difference between the s1 and s2 speed wise when the s2 came out, and looking back now the s2 feels sooo much faster than the s1 simply because there are a lot more complicated and cpu intensive apps compared to a year ago. In other words I do think my s3 is much faster than my s2.
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I have come to a similar conclusion, quad core seems to offer no real benefits (that I can see) over dual core. My HTC one s, is much smoother and quicker than my gs3. We're it not for the fantastic screen I would keep the HTC. I can't see one possible benefits to quad core at this time.
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Really? It seems people have very different perceptions. My previous phone the Qualcomm S4 HTC One X stuttered like someone on withdrawal from heroin so I went to try all the HTC One X and One S display models I could to see if it was just my handset. It wasn't and the One S was also a stuttery mess.
Funny how different perceptions can be.
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what you tits don't realize is that the SGS3, with it's magnificent 720p resolution screen, has to push a whopping 2.4x more pixels than the SGS2 - making the quad-core vital in providing a fast, fluid and buttery smooth experience - which surpasses even the SGS2 (with its ****ty resolution) making it an even more impressive feat in engineering.
It simply blazes past devices with similar screens and resolution and makes them seem laggy (Gnex, Note, One X)
Hence, the SGS3's main feature isn't merely it having a quad-core processor, it's actually utilizing that quad-core processor to provide a the fastest, most seamless and unmatched user experience at such a high resolution.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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Dude save it.....I mean give me a break. If this is no the most blatant fan boy post I have ever read. The SGS3 is still pushing 720p to a pentile display....compared to SGS2s super amoled plus..... Its a great phone but compared to the OneX its only marginal in most areas. Nobody said the SGSII was better....just how comparable it is. To top it off I have read many posts that say the quad core does get shuttters so save it...that wasn't no BLAZING SPEED they were just showing in the video.....lay off the pipe.
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It seems as if you're in denial. The SGS2's chipset got a similar resolution pentile screen and that lagged like no tomorrow. the quad core in the GS3 was necessary to make the experience lag free.
And the SGS3 is quite a bit faster and smoother than the One X (Tegra3 - i haven't used the krait one). Try loading up NOVA3 on both, or browsing the web, or anything for that matter.
Note: i'm not discounting the fact that the One X isn't a great phone. It has it's points that best the SGS3 but speed and smoothness is clearly NOT one of them.
I've had both One X devices. AT&T branded and the International version. I also had the GS2 International. The GS3 (Quad Core), hands down, blows them all away as far as performance goes.
Milliseconds starting apps etc doesn't matter, what matters is the Smoothness. The S3 is far more smoother then s2! Someone who tried cm9,is it smoother / faster then stock.?
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It's probably better to post this in the SII section where more people will agree with and not have to argue about it here. The people who are here not to troll are likely going to get an SIII anyway, no matter how good the SII is. Same goes for One X supporters. It's fair to make informed comparison, but don't be an authority over other people choices. Wasn't there already a dedicated thread for comparison:
Official Reviews, Previews and Comparisons as they come thread
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In all honesty, anything the sg3 can do, the s2 can. Its a jump in performance, but the s2 is already pretty fast. The only reason I'm upgrading will be lte capabilities.
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It can't record video with the same quality lag- free.
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