[Q] Considering the SGS2 - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!

The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.

thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S

Also would be nice for continued dev support

Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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TeamKilo said:
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha

I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD

Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.

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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/

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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.

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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/

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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
IamSnah
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.

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[Q] To wait or not to wait..

There has been similar threads, but I'll just go ahead and make a new one.
As my HD2 has came to an untimely demise, I'm currently stuck with my old Nokia E65, and I'm starting to wonder if it's really worth waiting for the Galaxy S II.
I could buy an Optimus 2X or an Xperia Arc today, do you reckon the Galaxy S II is so much better that it's worth being stuck with an aging symbian phone for (at least) a month? What would you guys do?
one-word. super-amoled-plus.
Why do you need sth better for a month? Just wait and get SGS2.
Use your Nokia as most people does - as a simple phone and don't expect too much. I'm sure you can stand without web browsing or quality games for a while. You still can phone anybody, text, make notes and check time ;D
BTW. take it easy, I'm in worse situation. As my E65 died I'm stuck with Nokia 6300 for a month waiting for SGS2. <facepalm>
It's only 1 month - 4 lousy Mondays, a few beers, maybe a read book or good PC game played. Don't think about waiting.
I now what you mean, i sold my iPhone in January, an has being on my backup "N95" forever i fill, first i was waiting for LG OX2,and then i heard about SGS 2, so I will wait until May with a smile.
I now what you mean, i sold my iPhone in January, an has being on my backup "N95" forever i fill, first i was waiting for LG OX2,and then i heard about SGS 2, so I will wait until May with a smile.
Sorry there is a lag.
Somehow your misfortunes makes me feel better. Thanks!
I will wait. It has better be worth it!
I'm waiting... I've been using the same terrible LG Vu for over 2 years now... I really hope this phone comes to USA soon.
I got slapped last time I said this, but RAM. I have been out of contract for 2 months, I can get the X2 or Arc as well. But Arc is single core with 512MB ram, and X2 as great as it seems only has the 512MB as well.
Of the two, the X2 is the winner hands down, and it already has a top notch set of devs working on it. (Look at Paul's work from MODACO)
If you can afford to upgrade in a year, then yes, the X2 is a great phone. I am so tempted by it, but I have spent almost 2 years trying to make the most of the I75000. It was almost enough to put me off Samsung for life.
We do not know what the community will be like for the Galaxy SII, but it has a dual core cpu, great screen, good battery and 1GB of RAM. So with a bit of work , it will be a good phone for a few years.
So time to stop rambling, yes, from someone else going nuts and being tempted left right and centre, wait if you can.
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one-word. super-amoled-plus.
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http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_sgs_6b.jpg
If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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Umm okk....
Three words super amoled plus !!!!!
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Umm okk....
Three words super amoled plus !!!!!
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http://www.mobiset.ru/articles/text/?id=5408
Take a look at it carefully before you praise it. It totally blurs shadow details on red colors.
you know what, i'll deal with a little bit of red over-saturation for the vibrancy you get with all the other colors of the spectrum. and if you're will to let that push you to slcd... well i just have no words for you.
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If that red-crushing isn't fixed, I'll take an IPS LCD or a SLCD over a sgs2 any day. It's always one step forward and two steps back with Samsung amoled's.
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+1 i love superamoled only for BLACK colour rest are simply 'dare i say' oversaturated .
Oversaturated is the way I like it
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i'm actually starting to get really itchy, i'm tempted to buy a nexus s for the newest updates - i do want to use it as an app dev phone - but it seems very hit and miss in terms of performance, but then there's touchwiz, which even at 4.0 looks terrible. there's nothing that the s2 does that the ns doesn't really do, only - at this stage - just a bit faster because only honeycomb can handle dual core processors...
plus, it'll be £100 cheaper, which would mean i recouperate my costs faster.
i'm just not sure the s2 would be totally for me.
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i'm actually starting to get really itchy, i'm tempted to buy a nexus s for the newest updates - i do want to use it as an app dev phone - but it seems very hit and miss in terms of performance, but then there's touchwiz, which even at 4.0 looks terrible. there's nothing that the s2 does that the ns doesn't really do, only - at this stage - just a bit faster because only honeycomb can handle dual core processors...
plus, it'll be £100 cheaper, which would mean i recouperate my costs faster.
i'm just not sure the s2 would be totally for me.
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Doesn't really do more ? Nexus S lacks of MicroSD & Flash LED, it should be a standard for a smartphone to have that now...
the nexus s has a flash led. the gs however, does not. no microsd? not an issue for me. 16gb of internal storage is more than enough for me - and really, for anyone.
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the nexus s has a flash led. the gs however, does not. no microsd? not an issue for me. 16gb of internal storage is more than enough for me - and really, for anyone.
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I disagree with you on that point. I have a huge music collection which I access daily. Depending on what I want to listen to, I select. 16 GB is not enough for me.
sure, me too. but i get bored with my music. so i just use internet radio / last.fm.
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I disagree with you on that point. I have a huge music collection which I access daily. Depending on what I want to listen to, I select. 16 GB is not enough for me.
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lol, me three
what's more, I have most music in FLAC

Nexus S or wait for GS II?

Damn, GSII Is coming may first, I love the NS but man GSII is a beast, I have the money right now for NS but Im sure GSII will be a LOT.
What do YOU think?
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Hang on..
Nexus S is just another version of the original galaxy
Absolutely, its miles ahead as far as the advancements are concerned.
1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz Dual Core Cortex A9's on the S II
512MB Ram vs 1GB Ram on the S II
4 in SAMOLED vs 4.3 in SAMOLED +
patience, my friend...
Galaxy S 2 is worth waiting for.
I wouldnt mind waiting if I had the money, but I feel like I need to stop switching phones so much, I may go with NS for a year or 2, It has all I need after after all, I dont root or rom so in all honesty I think all that 1gb ram, dual core stuff I wont need, all I do is play music web browse, use phone and use some apps, thats it...I dont see the need to wait and spend even more for things that I dont need, I really need to stop getting phone after phone because some new specs come out, NS has all I need, hopefully it will be like that for a couple years until I really need a new phone rather then want, I know the techies want the latest and greatest but to the average user, they dont care as long as it has the things you need rather then ram, processer etc, I need to start thinking like that rather then drooling over every new phone, its a waste of money.
Just my opinion, hopefully NS can last me.
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I also am not prone to change phones often. My current phone is an HTC Touch Dual I've had for like 4 years.BUT I like to buy the best when I do; which right now happens to be the Galaxy SII. That's why I've preordered already.
In that case, it is better to somewhat future proof your investment by buying the current technology and utilizing it to the fullest.
SGSII will be better for you in the long run.
Samsung Galaxy S2, no doubt about it, lol.
Yea but how much lol? I can get the NS for $560, whats the GSII gonna be? $700?
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We can't tell you for sure until it's announced in each region, but it's definitely worth the wait to find out. You're talking about buying a last gen phone vs a cutting edge phone basically. Do you want to spend $500 and have an already outdated phone, or maybe roughly the same, maybe a little more for a top of the line phone? The Nexus S is a great phone for sure, but this is a fast paced industry and with the dual core CPUs and the new SAMOLED+ screen, I think it's worth the wait and maybe a little more money.
Its a no brainer for me.
SII of course.
Perhaps waiting for a few weeks will give you some clear cut details on the launch and costing.
SGS II without a doubt. The Nexus S is a great phone, but doesn't hold a candle to the SGS II.
Yea get the galaxy s 2 just don't expect any software updated...
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Yea get the galaxy s 2 just don't expect any software updated...
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That is where the phone being not boot-locked and XDA developers come in...and personaly for me this will be the deciding factor as I know how slow both my carrier (A$&$) and Samsung about releasing software updates.rolleyes:
Samsung have been improving with frequence of updates however...at least for some phones...
Nexus S is a cool phone but I could never understand why they castrated some parts off of it.
Updates are nice, yes, but since the phone comes with 2.3, it probably won't be a big deal to me. The wait from 2.1 to 2.2 was horrible because Flash is such a huge addition, but have they said what the killer feature will be past Gingerbread? I doubt it'll be as huge as Flash was.
Went ahead and got the NS, glad I did, I will be happy with it as it is the full google experience, great looking phone, SAmoled, I mean it has everything I need, Im sure the SAmoled+ will be cool but thats the main thing I would want, back when I had the captivate only things I wanted was that ATT would not block apps, a camera flash, and a FFC, now I have it all! What more do I need, perhaps in 1 1/2-2 years I get the Dual Core stuff, but for now Im sure the NS will be perfect for me and my needs.
You have my sincere condolences.
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Updates are nice, yes, but since the phone comes with 2.3, it probably won't be a big deal to me. The wait from 2.1 to 2.2 was horrible because Flash is such a huge addition, but have they said what the killer feature will be past Gingerbread? I doubt it'll be as huge as Flash was.
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GPU acceleration probably.
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You have my sincere condolences.
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+1.
But profit from it though, it's still a great Android Phone.
meh not everyone obsesses over the latest gadgets, I used to but not anymore.

[Q] Galaxy S II, Evo 3D or Optimus 3D?

Hey everyone, currently i have HTC desire and i'm about to buy a new phone... Which phone should i get? Galaxy S II,evo 3d or optimus 3d? The most thing i care about is the hardware,which phone is faster and of course updates... I've heard that galaxy s2 and optimus 3d are both great phones, but i need to pick the right one as i wont be buying another phone for a few months One thing i dont like about the galaxy s tho, is the 3 buttons. The standard buttons for an android phone are 4, right? dunno if that will lead to any probs in some apps? anyways, hope you guys can help me out to pick the right phone
Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Well the only button you're missing is search. And unless you search a lot, then it's pretty much more of nuisance than a function.
For the evo 3d/optimus, do you need 3d? Do your eyes hurt when viewing 3d? Are you willing to pay the extra buck just for 3d? Do you even want 3d videos or pictures? Those are questions you have to ask yourself.
Now obviously in terms of regular screen use to the average consumer, the galaxy s 2 comes 1st with it's top notch super amoled plus display. It also has size in it's favour also, with being extra thing to very light. CPU? Well i'm in favour of samsung's exynos being the best right now. Nothing really to back it up right now however, but it's better than tegra 2 at the very least. Also if you're a media hog, the galaxy s 2 is your device.
However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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Hmm great answer bud, and no, I'm really not that much into 3d. I'm really considering to buy this phone when it comes out, i just hope they will care enough to update their software when a new android version is out. Another reason too buy this phone is that, here in norway we will get the Exynos version that is running at 1,2 GHz.
Put 3D, AMOLED and CPU aside, i'll still favour SGSII over an HTC/LG phone because of its superior camera and audio quality.
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However you're not really going to get the best answers here due to the fact that you're asking in a sgs 2 forum, which naturally, should be populated by users who favour the sgs 2.
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This is so true.
btw does anyone know how many multitouch it supports?
i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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i remember the screen of the original SGS can handle 16 points simultaneously so i expect SGSII will be as good as that at least. any screen that can track more than 2 touches accurately is good compare to my HTC Desire lol
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
I'm also on the HTC desire, and the memory issues have forced me to set A2SD (SLOW) in order to make the phone useable.
IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
I'm going for the Galaxy S 2. Amazing g camera, I love the build quality, I like the slim design, and the speed will be awesome.
They're all great phones but I don't really need aa 3D display, nor do I want one. I life in a 3D world, I don't want my movies to be in 3D, it takes away from the experience.
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IMHO, the fact that the original galaxy s has a GPU that still outperforms anything out there ATM is a key indicator of the sheer power we should await with the sII's quad-core mali 400
As for the evo, the processor still relies on an A8 cortex, while the SII uses an A9... plus Super Amoled Plus is VERY key
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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haha that's right, i can't stand the multitouch on my desire. But 16 points simultaneously :O thats awesome
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The Desire and Nexus One were the last devices HTC put that pathetic touch screen on. The latest thing I heard HTC used was the Maxtouch, which supposedly supports "unlimited" (probably 10-16) touches.
Even so, I still would get the SGSII. It just seems amazing.
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Can't agree more... I'm using a SE Xperia arc atm which is considered (with its "Bravia engine" label) to have one of the best non Super amoled screen from many reviewers and man... it is still a big piece of crap omg I forgot how to watch that type of screens after spending 6 month with my Galaxy S
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HTC launches 5 phones to beat the competition and Samsung release one phone....like Samsung Galaxy s was most selling Android Device ever...mean while HTC release a new phone every month like crazy....lol....LG has some good android phones but none can beat galaxy S series..so forget about Galaxy S2....I use galaxy S and I am telling you i cannot live without SAMOLED screen...just imagine advance version of that...
Even in this comparison between HTC sensation and SGS 2,......I think Samsung beat HTC again......Even tho I dont know how good TouchWiz 4.0 will be...But still it will be better then HTC sense...And I am hoping it will be easy to root and Custom Rommed as Current galaxy S series...Looking forward to buy this phone...
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Just putting it out there. The A9 holds no advantages over A8 that are being used in any of the phones they have been produced in (DDR3 ram isn't being used in any phones are they?). So it is irrelevant right now to say a phone is better since it has a A9 core.
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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A9 features out of order processing so runs faster in bottle necks - also over clocks better
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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what do you mean with overclock better? does it run at lower voltage than a typical a8 then?
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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I'm assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the chips are able to handle being overclocked better than others. THey might not generate as much heat; if they do however, they would be more stable than other.
Similar to the chip in the Inspire and G2 OC'ing to 1.5 and being stable.
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well, i dont know aswell, if the chip is based on smaller nm scale then yeah that would probably make a bit more sense as it would require less voltage, but i have no information about the chip differences right now.
Just a waiting game until the device is out.
If OC'ing this device does actually occur (which it eventually would), then I wonder the affect it would have on the battery. Although, I think having Dual Core 1.2Ghz is quite sufficient at the moment.
I guess there will be diffrent profiles so you can change clock and volt.
So it takes less power on standby .
On my Noka N900 i have a widget so i can change overclock in seconds.
950mhz when surfing and when i need to save batteri i choise another profile ..
C'mon this thing is a savage beast ! I would rather think of Underclocking it ! Exynos Dual core at 1Ghz should be sufficient to do EVERYTHING you can do on an android smartphone and that includes the most demanding games and every task you can imagine, I mean just watch all the vids of those prototypes runnig buttery smooth and they're all running at 1Ghz
OMG I can't wait this is so epic

S3 leaked video? looks pretty real

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3Ei61wWOr4w
Some background on this video...
How these guys in Vietnam manage to do it is beyond me. Tinhte.vn has done it yet again. They have managed to get hold of the Galaxy S3 and did a short video of it, in HD and posted it on Youtube where it went viral before it was pulled down.
Since then, a number of reposts have been made by other parties which makes taking the video down more difficult if not impossible. Tinhte published the first unboxing of the iPad 3 (or new ipad), it was also the first website to come up with the white iPhone 4 with 64GB.
The video shows a phone that appears to be a variant of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a similar system memory capacity, display size and resolution and OS. The onboard storage stands at 16GB, there's a quad core Samsung Exynos 4412 processor clocked at 1.4GHz, NFC, an eight megapixel camera and a 2050mAh battery.
This matches some sources which said that the Galaxy S3 would be an incremental improvement over the Galaxy S2 rather than a radical change.
The new phone appears to have dropped the slight bulge at the back and opted for a flat smartphone, certainly as a result of the case brought again Samsung by Apple over claims that the S2 was the thinnest phone in the world.
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/04/20/video-samsung-galaxy-s3-finally-emerges/#ixzz1sbXXXwCj
Meh. The video doesn't really reveal anything we didn't already expect. Plus, the phone is disguised in a generic case, so we can't see what the real design is going to look like.
The 2050mah battery is an improvement, but not what we need. We need something similar to the 3300mah battery in the Razr Maxx. Especially if it's not removable.
At this point, the only thing that will make me interested in buying this phone is if it ends up being bezel-less, and that is looking unlikely.
Why is this here?
And if those specs are indeed the real specs, Im glad Im jumping to the One X. The AT&T version will probably put in a Snapdragon processor for LTE (because every new smartphone has to have LTE now) and it wont have NFC due to AT&T pouring money into Isis. Incremental update indeed.
Red5 said:
The AT&T version will probably put in a Snapdragon processor for LTE
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IIRC, the Exynos 4412 will support LTE. No reason to switch to Snapdragon.
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IIRC, the Exynos 4412 will support LTE. No reason to switch to Snapdragon.
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That's news to us.
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It looks pretty lame.
I saw the guy touch a couple of time for it to work.
Unresponsiveness
TOA Duck said:
That's news to us.
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No, you're right and I'm wrong. It was just a rumored spec that I read.
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No, you're right and I'm wrong. It was just a rumored spec that I read.
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AT&T will probably use the sane processor as the One X... the S4 Krait which is a really good processor.
Red5 said:
AT&T will probably use the sane processor as the One X... the S4 Krait which is a really good processor.
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or the exynos 5250 (dreaming, i know)
The phone is clearly in a shell. Remember the iPhone 4? They hid it in a 3gs shell as a disguise..... But I can't wait until May 3rd. I also get braces off that day
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trell959 said:
The phone is clearly in a shell. Remember the iPhone 4? They hid it in a 3gs shell as a disguise..... But I can't wait until May 3rd. I also get braces off that day
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May 3rd is my BD
If that is it it is nothing I imagined. I am with Red.... Getting a One X..... That thing don't look impressive at all. I would just sit on this phone another year.
killing is my business, And business is good.
tylerdurdin said:
If that is it it is nothing I imagined. I am with Red.... Getting a One X..... That thing don't look impressive at all. I would just sit on this phone another year.
killing is my business, And business is good.
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Damn straight!
I'm really torn on what to do. I got my GS2 on the 9th so the One X release date is well within my 30 day return window. But to be honest, I'm sick of Sense and really had my heart set on the GS3.
I suppose the financially prudent thing to do is get the One X so it will have the best resale value should I have an incurable boner over the GS3.
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I'm really torn on what to do. I got my GS2 on the 9th so the One X release date is well within my 30 day return window. But to be honest, I'm sick of Sense and really had my heart set on the GS3.
I suppose the financially prudent thing to do is get the One X so it will have the best resale value should I have an incurable boner over the GS3.
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Damn... bad timing to have gotten a new phone.
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tylerdurdin said:
If that is it it is nothing I imagined. I am with Red.... Getting a One X..... That thing don't look impressive at all. I would just sit on this phone another year.
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No way that's the gsiii... like what some have said its probably that rumored mid ranged phone, the galaxy m. And if a mid range phone comes with a 2050mah battery imagine what the high end/flagship will be... maybe I'm being a little too hopeful. Oh well, don't care. If the gsiii is a bust I can wait
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Damn... bad timing to have gotten a new phone.
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I knew the next batch of super phones was on the horizon and the One X would hopefully be out before my 30 days was up. The GS2 is such an upgrade over the Amaze, this is almost like new hotness to me.
I've been called a lot of things in my day, but patient isn't one of them.
did you guys not hear that was not the actual case the GS3 is going to be using? It's just a dummy case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hudqvbAetPE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
New teaser. Funny at the end.
Anyone put any thought into the blue and white puddles. Could it be a liquid metal type screen.....or the flexible screen. Just a thought i had for the hell of it.
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After looking around i see that Apple has an "exclusive commercial license to it"
Probably old news...so don't tase me bros....
Stay thirsty my friends
I say in a year and a half our phones will have 2 to 2.5x the power and capabilities we currently have - but I'm willing to bet batteries won't improve for 3ish years.
These things will be able to replace laptops and desktops through docks or projectors and better use of connected peripherals like virtual keyboards and wireless mice.
I'm betting 3.6-5ghz processors, 100-200gb space, faster/instant networking, full mobile gpu's and hacking will be more prevalent maybe even problematic to society.
Ah computers.
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What, exactly, does this have to do with the Galaxy S II?

Looking at upgrades - SGN or SGS3

I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
The Nexus isn't an upgrade from the S2, it's a sidegrade at best (and possibly even a downgrade depending on what's important to you in a smart phone).
I've been having the same trouble . It just seems like the SGS3 is a better choice. Also the SGN isn't LTE and the SGS3 is.
According to your question it's undoubtedly the Samsung galaxy S3
but on the other hand if you are a pure android fan and want fast updates from google then it's definitely the Galaxy Nexus...
I would say that the SGS3 would be the better one unless you want pure Android.
i would say wait for the next nexus phone with lte capabilities..that's gonna be my next smartphone maybe, want pure android not pure bloatware from carriers and delayed updates
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Nexus for sure
Jelly Bean makes it feel like a whole new phone, I am probably going to order mine next Week.
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I have been looking at upgrades to my SGS2, and I am a bit torn between the two phones - Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy S III (AT&T).
Looking at the stats, there is very little difference, and the Nexus is about half the price for an unlocked one straight from Google.
Battery life should be close, but the specs all show a much lower number then I would expect, so I am guessing that it is from the quad core version, and not the US version.
Has anyone done a comparison? I have been looking and always end up with the Quad core version rather then the Dual core one for the US.
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As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
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As much as you would hate this... I'll say waite.
There is nothing wrong with the SGSII. Its freaking awesome, and for me, it's even better than the G Nexus.
As for the SGS3, Android as for now, is in no need of 4 cores, specially samsung ones that are a brand new technology that is still in developement. Even Tegra 3 are equaled in performance by S4 dual core chips, while consuming less power. (as seen on One X series)
I bet around fall we will see a new and decent Nexus device, that i say its worth the waite.
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The at&t s3 only has 2 cores
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I'm waiting for the next batch of phones with a new SoC.
The only thing I want from the SGSIII is that screen.
I would say look at reviews of both and see which fits your needs and then make a decision. No one can make this decision for u
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IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
Wait for the Next Nexus that will hopefully come out in the fall/winter season.
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That middle option sounds good to me. It'd be nice to have an upgrade available late in the year or early 2013 when new phones start coming out...
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That's what I'm edging towards with my upgrade. I was considering selling my SGSII and buying the GNex in order to have the upgrade available for the next batch of phones (Krait Quads) or just wait until then with my SGSII although I would be able to sell if for much less at that time.
SGSII is such a great phone but seeing the SGSIII, that screen is just making me so tempted to upgrade. I'm a sucker for bigger screens with better res. Someone smack the temptation out of me!
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I too am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I have 1 line available for an upgrade now and another on Aug. 1st. Problem is my SGS2s work perfectly and even though the S3 has some nice features (zero shutter lag for one). It does not feel like enough of an upgrade harware wise. The GNexus is pretty much on par with the S2 except a slightly larger screen size and NO removable sdcard. So I decided to just wait. But my daughters handed down SGS1 Cappy sdcard just failed a few days ago. She was runing it with CM7 still and liked it. So since I am STUCK with having to get a new phone my dilema is this. Get the SGS3 and hand down my SGS2? Get the Gnex from the play store which I like the updates available but give it to her, then I STILL have 1 phone available for upgrade and another soon so IF something better comes along I can jump on it. OR third choice get a SGS2 I777 for her and waste one upgrade. Decisions decisions...
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Well... Give your daughter the SGS2 and get a SGS3 or One X. And you'll have the extra upgrade to get any of the phones coming later this year.
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Now when you say s3, att crap or real, int s3? Because if att one, id say stick to s2 or maybe Note.
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IMO, the only reason to pick a Galaxy Nexus over any other phone is because you want quicker updates. It has nothing else over any other device, imo.
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Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
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Well I know that the idea of getting updates quicker is what is would seem, but in reality, that is not the case. The Nexus models may be a Google phone, but they still have to go through the carrier to get updates.
I think that although a new phone may be nice, many of you are right that the S2 is an amazing phone, and should be good for a while. As far as the comment about no need for Quad cores, I thought the same thing when I got my Eris, and thought it was lighting fast... until the new apps came out and then the phone ran like a slug, even rooted and modded.
The software will push the hardware limits at all times, so if new hardware comes out, software will start to use it, which means that eventually the old ones just don't work right. This is the bane of technology. I also have an iPad, and as of later this year I am out of luck and will not get any software updates before iOS 6 won't install on it. (But that is whole different conversation)
Looking at the specs between the two on phone arena is actually funny, since they are both SO close. I have worked in computers for long enough that I know that a .2 or .3 different in CPU speed, isn't going to make or break a difference. Memory, Cores, and Storage tend to make the biggest difference.
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Nexus updates except for Verizon and sprint do not go through any carrier
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