Lets say we get an unlocked bootloader . . . What can we do to the phone? What kind of updates in the future will our phone beable to get? Will we get better drivers for the things our phone has?
See I posted something similar but while 200 people looked at it nobody had a reply.
The new moto phones all have locked bootloaders, now while this sucks it doesn't hinder the device too much.
On the motorola defy they have deblurred roms as well as a fully working htc sense port.
They use nandroid restores as a way of flashing roms.
I don't see a valid reason something similar can't be done here.
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Obviously you'd probably get the basic benefits of most phones, but I don't think you'll really get much of an answer until it actually happens.
i think the benefit would be to be install customs kernel, and roms like cyanogen with most recent andoird updates...
Custom kernals allow for overclocking and undervolting, as well as performance and battery saving cpu governers.
A full recovery flash means if you f***ed up, you can do a nand restore without having to sbf restore.
Also it allows for a complete ripout of the phones system and files and replacing them with another, usually a port of another rom or Cm7.
I would love sense or cm7.
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A custom Kernel is Not necessary for overclocking, you can also overclock and undervolt without it. And we also have CM7 Sitz 2nd init like on The milestone.
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A custom Kernel is Not necessary for overclocking, you can also overclock and undervolt without it. And we also have CM7 Sitz 2nd init like on The milestone.
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We can't use milestone overclock because we don't have the msm processor, we have to have a custom kernal that allows for greater frequencies
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Oh, okay, I didn't know that.
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I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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You could try a new rom like Cyanogen mod 7. It should work. Also use setcpu with it.
2.1? Time for a new ROM! From what I understand Gene's latest ROM supports overclocking, if you want to keep Sense on your phone.
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I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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Its dependent on the kernel, not the rom. If the kernel doesn't support higher frequencies then you wont be able to overclock. I'm not aware of any overclock kernels for 2.1 on the aria but somebody else might.
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Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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Yes and this was already done in new roms (Cyanogen mod) based off of an overclockable kernel.
Okay. I need a 2.1 compatible OC kernel. Not CM
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Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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There is no reason to stay with 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 are hella smooth on this phone.
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Not for me >.> I despise this phone and largely regret getting it honesty.
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This is no phone to regret getting
Try cm7 with my custom kernel, it's very smooth.
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Thats just it. I want a smooth sense, but that's like impossible with this phone.
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I put the Liberated ROM on my gf's phone and it runs nicely, without overclocking. Throw in setCPU and there should be not much that can slow it down.
Ehh. I think ill just go back to an iPhone or maybe stick with getting the Inspire. This phone ruined Android for me.
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Well with that attitude you might aswell get an iPhone, it seems to fit your personality better.
Having said that... normal 2.1 sense without OC is smooth as butter, as is liberated 2.2.2 with and without OC. Or, if sense is what you're complaining about, install CM7 like others have suggested to eliminate it entirely.
I'm sorry you don't like your phone. I always like to try mine out at the store before I buy them.
Well where I got my phone they don't let you try them out. I was just going by what people said on here and else where for my phone choosing.
But the main issue is, I use my phone like a laptop almost. I check xda all the time. I use it for entertainment. I text almost 24/7. I also use it as my only music player, as my mp3 players never last long. But then phone doesn't perform well enough in most or all categories. Iphones kind of do, but I consider them overrated and bland. Even with jailbreak. I like HTC sense because its got enough eye candy, and its very user friendly. I also prefer CM7 as well due to its blazing speeds. But I want to have a phone that suits most of my needs, and I don't know if my thoughts on the inspire are correct or not, but I think it would suit me perfect, as the aria definitely does not.
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You would be better suited to get a phone with a larger screen and armv7 processor. The inspire has both of these although the battery life is not as great out of the box. I would also recommend the Samsung captivate, as it has a super amoled screen but not front facing camera. CM7 has just added support for it as well.
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Well I don't really need the super quality screen of the captivate, as I'm not a freak on screen quality. But I'm near my charger quite a bit, so bl isn't a giant issue either. My biggest issue is speed and screen size. I have to type in landscape with the aria or I mess up every other word.
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I suggested the Captivate because it has an arguably better screen and can be had for cheaper than the inspire. The inspire will seem awkwardly huge coming from the aria (3.2" vs 4.3"), where as the captivate is still a step up at 4" but easier to handle with one hand. Also with ARMv7 processors you get REAL flash support (10.1+) whereas the Aria (and any other ARMv6 phone) only gets Flash lite 3.1(?) this is a huge caveat for me and will probably be my excuse to upgrade.
Well when I first got the aria, it was because looked down on touchwiz. I wanted a phone I could like out of the box, then root it for more fun. The aria sort of hit that spot, but I think the inspire will hit it out of the park. I really like sense, and thats my main reason for getting a sense phone.
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Well now I'm checking out the atrix. 50$ upgrade refurbished, sounds nice to me. Future proof myself and get rid of blur and well be all good. Right?
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So it seems like everybody goes crazy when it comes to the porting of CM7. But why?
I got my hands on a SGS2 with CM7 installed. Tried it, experienced it a little. From what I experienced the CM7 wasnt something that special. I asked the owner of the phone what he though of the ROM. To my surprise he said "it's just a ROM". He also mentioned that the stock ROM was smoother.
So now I'm wondering, why all the fuzz? What are you expecting from CM7? What makes it so special and so popular?
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who craves for the porting of CM7 has no clue of this.
(off topic: tbh, i'd rather prefer MIUI.)
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My sister's Backflip has CyanogenMod 7 installed with 2.3.3 (Not even Froyo is released in Asia-Pacific regions) , it allows her to have OC/UV kernels from 600Mhz to 748Mhz . Her phone is wayyyyy less laggier than stock .(the difference is obviously obvious)
I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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he said using oc/uv.. his sister device only support 600mhz by default, but because she uses custom oc/uv kernel, she can achieve 748mhz with help of setcpu. it depends on clock stepping that were supported by kernel, not by setcpu. setcpu only help to configure those clock stepping
Oh, never knew about that. From my use of SGA 800mhz is doing alright.
And as I mentioned, not really good at those areas so I didnt even know that "oc/uv" was overclock and undervolt xD
Some bugs fixed are gonna be fixed in CM. Camera quality should be bit better. Theme engine is built into ROM, so there will be much more themes for SGA. Im also excited about haptic feedback (not sure about this one).
And much more...
What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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That depends on your hardware
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
MiUi is cyanogen based, if I'm not wrong.
First off I'm sure in cm there will be accurate battery reporting. No ****ty jumps in percentage.
Second, if CM is under way I believe developers will include uv, through kernels or modules. Overclocking though, may not be necessary.
Other than that the rom has so many tweaks. Over time and development CM will make our original firmware outmoded because it WILL get smoother.
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
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The same ;x but I would try CM too !
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Speed, stability, power, eyecandy, etc, etc.
But most of all; bugfixes and much more stability compared to stock firmware, as it is said that CM7 is build from the ground up so in my eyes it won't or even can't have the flaws that stock has.
Hey, it's only my opinion.
i think it`s only way to forget about SODs
Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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You gave me a reason to wait for CM7 (Y)
hahaha..if you want to know..CM is a special ROM I guess, more unlock option on kernel than stock ROM, so I can say CM is a very customizing ROM.
for a prove, u can use an app called Tasker, on that app u can get more customized settings if u using CM.
CMIIW. sorry bad english
I was just trying to get some good suggestions on which rims are good to use with my Motorola ATRIX
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They are all great and stable. Read through the DEV section and do some research. Find one that suits your needs, then flash away. Just make sure you are unlocked and using the correct recovery. Good luck!
ROMs are like pokemons - you need to try them all yourself.
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ROMs are like pokemons - you need to try them all yourself.
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Except magicarp, nobody likes magicarp.
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Except magicarp, nobody likes magicarp.
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Until it evolves and becomes a beast
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This is no diss to the developers because I very much appreciate their work!
And I haven't tried all the ROMs
Still, for my suite of apps, for the smoothest and most reliable op of the phone and for the longest battery life..I am back to stock. I have frozen apps, I am running the .97 radio (which has made a huge difference to me in reliability and throughput) but I am stock. Mainly, I had issue with the various incarnations of the Faux kernel and always wound up with lost widgets (I like my widgets I tried all the suggestions and still, at some point I would lose widgets with the kernel. Since this is the basis of most ROMs that did it for me (and it has to be the kernel since I had the problem on the stock ROM with the kernel).
Good luck...it is easy to go back to stock if you don't like the various ROMs.
I intend to try CM7 later on when the Faux kernel and the integration with Setcpu (both cores) is resolved and CM7 has webtop integration (I use the lapdock every day).
I've used a few of the ROM's out there and right now I am on HomeBase version 2 with Faux's latest kernel. I will say that the version of HomeBase is pretty close to stock but it has a bunch of enhancements (zipalign, memory tweaks, etc). My suggestion is to get to flashing and see what suits you. What I like you may hate. CM7 is worth a try as well and I may switch over when it become official (or I may wait for MIUI).
As for the widget issue...fix permissions fixed it for me, hundreds of restarts and I still have my widgets.
You should check out the dev section...good ROM's and good reading!!!
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I was just trying to get some good suggestions on which rims are good to use with my Motorola ATRIX
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HomeBase: Blue Chronicis the best rom I have ever used. I
I tried the home base blue cronic and I love it the only problem I have is that you cant really get your motoblur accounts and I have all my numbers and facebook accounts on motoblur...is there a way to get your accounts back?
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I recommend 22 inch chrome rims depending on what you like.
If you are looking form suggestions for ROMs I'd suggest CM7.
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I'm running the stock ROM rooted and all. After using cynogenmod for a bit I switched back to stock and I can no longer overclock past 1200. Can someone explain or help me out.
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I think we cannot over clock (OC) with stock kernel. Try Entropy's kernel or Siyah. I am using CM and Siyah and I can OC. I didn't try with stock kernel however.
Thank you. I'll try it and get back
To you
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Worked like a charm. Thank you
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I'm running the stock ROM rooted and all. After using cynogenmod for a bit I switched back to stock and I can no longer overclock past 1200. Can someone explain or help me out.
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I was able to overclock to 1.452 stock rooted with Zedomax kernel using Tergrak Overclock from Android Market... give that a try
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Kernel bro. You need a kernel with the abilities to overclock. Stock kernel can't.
Tegrak in the market. Buy the ultimate version for oc as high as ya want + core and internal voltage tweaks.
The free version lets you oc a little & no voltage adjustments.
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This may sound a bit patronizing but if you cannot over clock due to the wrong kernel and not realize it, it may be best to do more research and make sure you understand what's going on before trying to over clock.
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It does sound patronizing, but I can't blame you for trying to warn him/her. A lot of people have experience with computer OCing though, and may be new to Android.
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It does sound patronizing, but I can't blame you for trying to warn him/her. A lot of people have experience with computer OCing though, and may be new to Android.
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I understand that people overclock their computers, but overclocking an android device is different since you cannot just boot into the bios, thus I encourage people to research before trying something they may be unfamiliar with. Otherwise someone will have to end up hoping their warranty/phone insurance or whatever will cover something going wrong due to overclocking.
you can only overclock with a kernel that is compatible with overclock
Do you really need to over clock? I haven't seen a reason to on this beast of a phone. Its not like the captivate was.
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You mean there's no option anywhere, or that setcpu won't let you?
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How does this thread keep getting bigger? Problem solved in 2nd post, finished in the 4th. Lock it down, Red5.
As the title says, I just got an Eris as an off contract phone since I am moving over to Verizon in the next few weeks.
I have already rooted it and gone through a few roms.
What I would really like to know about though is if there are any problems or suggestions that I should know about to get this thing going any faster. I understand that the phone is old and limited in size and speed though.
Also, I am a Sense junky so if you have any suggestions for a good quick rom I would like to hear about it.
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++++++++++++1 for XTRSense for Sense junkies.
Thank you very much. Any tips on increasing the performance?
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Thank you very much. Any tips on increasing the performance?
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xtrSENSE (and a lot of ROMs here) come already some overclocked, and you can increase (or decrease) the overclock after using built-in tools. I can overclock mine to 806 MHz. Most people top out at 767 or maybe even 748 from what I've read in the past, and I think some have even gone over 806 MHz.
Just, if you increase your overclock speed, make sure and uncheck any option to set that speed at boot, so that if it crashes, when it reboots it'll not be overclocked and you'll be able to set a lower setting to try, or one that you know worked.
Other than that, I don't know how the V6 Supercharger script works with xtrSENSE, or even if you would want to. Almost any other ROM, especially Froyo (2.2) based or higher, I would say try the V6 Supercharge script (use XDA's forum search, or google it and you'll find it on XDA), but xtrSENSE is already very well scripted and modified as far as performance is concerned, so it might do more harm than good so if you try the V6, do a nandroid first.
Otherwise - I perform a fresh nandroid at least a couple times a month, usually after updating apps, just in case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657527
Eris Root & Firmware FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756775
[READ FIRST] Eris Roll-up Thread
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jae480 said:
Hey I have a Droid Eris as well that I have almost had for nearly three years. I stopped using it about 2 years ago but I now want to install custom Roms on it and CWM and stuff. I have Android 2.1 on my Droid Eris. Do you think you can point me in the right direction as to where I can find instructions on how to root it and also how to restore it to back to Android 2.1 after I install Roms and stuff.
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In addition to the above, this is how to flash it back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9867128&postcount=83
The Flashback_21v2 removes any custom recovery and reinstalls the latest stock firmware.
Also, stay away from ClockworkMod Recovery on the Eris. Several people have bricked their phones (most recoverable with a lot of work) with Clockwork as the default Recovery. Amon_RA recovery is safe on the Eris.
The best instructions for rooting and installing a AMON_RA and a custom ROM are here: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/127861-universal-eris-root-dummies.html
The best 2.1 based ROM is xtrSENSE5.0.1. There is a post here about it, but I think that the link for the actual ROM is down. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467 I have the download in my Dropbox, though: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hivjeuaulvqx5/xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip
There are several good Gingerbread ROMs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554 - GSB, CondemnedSoul's SM7, Evervolv.