I want to get this tablet for sheet music.
Any ideas how I could buy or hack a foot pedal to turn the pages for me?
bluetooth mouse?
usb mouse?
usb footpedals?
Here is a USB foot pedal for $32
Scythe USB-2FOOTSWITCH Express Pedal USB Input
Would I be able to rig this up to go page forward and back on a gtablet?
You could probably do the same thing with a cheap usb mouse if you just taped it in place were you need it to click...But maybe someone else knows more about getting a peddle to work
'Supplemental USB Foot Switch Input Device for Keyboard /Mouse, such as Double Click, [Ctrl+S].
. Under the difficult or ineffective situation to use your hands, you can do entry task by your foot with this Foot Switch.'....This looks promising it might actually work I just cant verify that...sorry
How about just using Voice Actions?
Actually a laser mouse positioned above your foot would work as well. The way the mouse works is it takes pictures of the surface below and then identifies the movement. So you could place the mouse slightly above your foot and wear socks that have some sort of design on them. Map the page switch to any mouse movement.
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How about just using Voice Actions?
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I'm just imagining that during a performance...nice concerto, then the pianist shouts "TURN!"
but I digress. I'll try some things out with a trackball. If buttons can be assigned a turn page command, than your foot pedal idea would work.
I just need to find an app that allows mouse usage
Didn't even see your link. I am pretty sure that could work as long as it just reports as an HID. If it just reports as a mouse, then its just about making the software respond to clicks.
Lets put it this way, if you get this going I am pretty sure you can turn this into a $9.99 app if it doesn't already exist.
I would pay for the app as I have no coding skills.
There are several apps that are specifically for guitar music and I would love to be able to use the pedal with one of them.
I've been searching, and from what I can see, it doesn't exist.
I plugged my logitech trackball into the g-tablet and it does work as a pointing device. However, it comes with some expected glitches.
First, there IS a small crosshair cursor on the screen. The axis' are off. Moving the ball right goes down, left goes up, up goes right, and down goes left. The right button doesn't seem to do anything at all, while the left button does initiate activity. I thought I could "trick" it by rotating the g-tablet, but alas, it does the same movements on all points of view.
I loaded a multiple page sheet music PDF into Ez PDF reader, and was able to turn pages. In portrait mode (ideal for reading sheet music) I was unable to get the cursor to the complete bottom of the page, where the selection is to turn a page. However, by keeping the cursor in the middle of the page, I clicked, and the page turned...BUT, turning BACK is REALLY tricky.
So, it works, it's glitchy, and it may not be the same with the pedal you're considering. Of course, a trackball can be placed on the floor. you can still navigate with the touch screen while it's plugged in.
All you'd need to do is set the cursor, and click the left button to get the page to advance.
I'm wondering if an app can be created that simply controls clicks, not mouse movement...so that it would be an ad-on for Adobe PDF viewer, Kindle Reader, or EZ PDF reader to simply institute a turn page command with each mouse click...forward with right click, backward with left...
Ah well...if only I knew enough to attempt to make an app.
in any case, there are my findings, it could work, but whether it works efficiently would depend on a future app to be written.
What instrument are you playing? My brother-in-law bought his iPad specifically for taking piano sheet music around with him. I know that he never had trouble turning pages on analog sheet music, so I didn't expect him to have a problem reaching up and swiping a screen, just as he would a real piece of paper.
I play bass, and the music (chord sheets) that I use I make sure to reduce to one page prior to scanning them, eliminating the need for page turning until the song is over and both hands are free.
This is a little off topic, but if an app like this could be created, or a tool found to do this, it would be an amazing tool for handicapped individuals to read books with a tablet. If simply click something with their feet/hand/wrist/elbow could turn the page, it could be used in a variety of situations.
I also wonder if broadening your search to include products or apps that are already out there but are marketed to the handicapped or disabled might help you find something.
Anyway, just a thought. My mom runs a daycare for handicapped children and young adults and something like this would be awesome for her kids to use.
I play guitar, ukulele and bass. I don't read sheet music so this would be just lyrics and chords usually.
Sometimes I change key or my buddy is playing capo 3 and I want to play uke or bass (no capo) and so one of the several apps that will import guitar tabs and change keys on the fly would be nice.
Changing the page isn't critical. It would be for the occasional song that I can't fit on one page or for seamlessly going from one song to the next.
When putting music on a stand, I can put three pages side-by-side which eliminates the need for a page turn.
Also, I know with some PDF viewers, you can make setlists. Does anyone know if any guitar chord apps would do this?
Cheap usb keyboard. Open it and wire a foot switch across the keyswitch for a key that does what you want like pgdn or enter?
Another option:
I am a working musician (guitar and vocals) and I use mine all the time for charts. I just paste them all together into a single doc using MS Word or whatever. I space them out between songs and I use a Calabri 14pt font and it works like a charm. A lot of the charts I use display on one screen in protrait mode. If I need to scroll I just swipe with my finger. It's really easy to do, much easier than it sounds. I use OfficeSuite Pro to display the docs. It has a full screen mode that is great for this purpose. Good luck!
Thanks frankencat.
Glad to hear it is working for you.
Have you had any problems with the viewing angle? I have heard the gtab can get a little picky.
I lead worship at my church and i use my tablet for my chords and lyrics. I use power point files and just swipe with my finger from song to song, but even that does break up the "flow" of the service slightly. I would absolutely love for this pedal to work just to go from slide to slide. It would be amazing. I would pay for any app it takes.
I am a worship leader as well. I use my gtablet for that purpose with pdfs. EZPDF Reader is the only pdf reader I have found that will work with my pedal. I use a pageflip bluetooth pedal. It will only work when set to send L & R commands.
I would insert a link, but haven't posted before. Google Pageflip Cicada...
80 dollars well spent!
Hope that helps!
Blessings!
Thanks Brandon. Glad to hear that it is working for you.
I am hoping to find an app that will let you change the keys of songs on the fly and make "set lists" of songs.
Anyone have any luck finding something like this for Android?
brandonhardin: Does your PDF app let you make setlists? or do you individually open up files or compile them in advance?
Do it with Bluetooth
Here are the parts you need:
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/bl...39_142&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/se...32_133&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/th...56_160&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/pl...78_184&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/ds...78_183&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/se...32_135&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
I can even help you write the code if you need to for the hardware as it would be really simple!
The Android code can be done using the APP INVENTOR so no super coding skills needed http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/
Basically, you will have your page turner act as a Bluetooth SPP connected to the Android phone. The page turner will need code that puts it in wait if pressed multiple times within 5-10min and goes into sleep if not continually activated with two buttons presses to wake up. this will save you massive battery life.
Just have the APK register whatever serial command you give over the SPP bluetooth to automatically turn the page.
Ka-Peche?
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Thanks frankencat.
Glad to hear it is working for you.
Have you had any problems with the viewing angle? I have heard the gtab can get a little picky.
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A little bit bit it's really not a problem. Sounds like I am in good company...I lead worship at my church too.
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Here are the parts you need:
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/bl...39_142&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/se...32_133&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/th...56_160&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/pl...78_184&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/ds...78_183&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/se...32_135&zenid=3d82021ce7f95ff23b4a7f97d9333d47
I can even help you write the code if you need to for the hardware as it would be really simple!
The Android code can be done using the APP INVENTOR so no super coding skills needed http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/
Basically, you will have your page turner act as a Bluetooth SPP connected to the Android phone. The page turner will need code that puts it in wait if pressed multiple times within 5-10min and goes into sleep if not continually activated with two buttons presses to wake up. this will save you massive battery life.
Just have the APK register whatever serial command you give over the SPP bluetooth to automatically turn the page.
Ka-Peche?
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That is amazing, but I am afraid it is way over my head!
I'll have to test this when I get home, but -
This was actually THE REASON why I bought the g-tablet. I'm a pianist, and I wanted a screen to view music on.
I own a footpedal page turner, and I don't remember the model right now - but it's essentially a wireless keyboard with only two keys, PGUP and PGDWN. It's just difficult to put a laptop on top of a piano and be able to see it, so I was hoping this would work with my G-Tab... Until I realized I have a touchscreen, and could just swipe to turn pages.
I'll check out the pageturner footswitch and return with the brand information when I get home tonight.
As a pianist I have the freedom to use a hand to turn pages while still playing with the other, but I can see where many other instrumentalists would prefer a footswitch.
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I have ordered a Zenithink ZT-180-102A and plan to use it to view sheet music for the band I play in, and turn the pages with a USB foot switch that sends a PgDn key to Acrobat Reader.
Has anyone tried this before? Any gotchas?
I would think that the tablet will be (just) big enough to view A4 PDF sheet music at 10.1" (would have preferred slightly bigger)
I'm hoping Adobe Acrobat Reader for Android can go full screen and respond to PgDn messages
Battery life seems a bit light, but figure I can run it from the power adapter if required
Hopefully no outside gigs, as I don't know how well the screen would work in sunlight
If I'm reading the foot switch description right, I can configure the key press via the software on a Windows machine, then plug it directly into the Zenithink as a standard HID device. Anyone tried anything like this?
Zilch said:
I have ordered a Zenithink ZT-180-102A and plan to use it to view sheet music for the band I play in, and turn the pages with a USB foot switch that sends a PgDn key to Acrobat Reader.
Has anyone tried this before? Any gotchas?
I would think that the tablet will be (just) big enough to view A4 PDF sheet music at 10.1" (would have preferred slightly bigger)
I'm hoping Adobe Acrobat Reader for Android can go full screen and respond to PgDn messages
Battery life seems a bit light, but figure I can run it from the power adapter if required
Hopefully no outside gigs, as I don't know how well the screen would work in sunlight
If I'm reading the foot switch description right, I can configure the key press via the software on a Windows machine, then plug it directly into the Zenithink as a standard HID device. Anyone tried anything like this?
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Hi, did you get this set up yet? I was looking at something similar for my band. Does the ZT180 have usb slot in it for the foot switch?
Yeah - that particular tablet is pretty iffy in build quality and design. I posted some details on it here.
The main limitation is the screen size for displaying A4/Letter. Since it's a 16:9 (or 16:10?) ratio, you get black bars at the top and bottom if you display the full page, so it's more like A5 size. For most of my music that is readable, but not ideal.
In landscape the size is about right, but you can only see half the page at a time.
The Adobe Reader software lets you do Cntl-N to move to the next page (dunno why PgDn doesn't work). The cheap footswitch I got of eBay works fine (you set it up once with some Windows software and then plug it into the USB port of the tablet)
I've ordered a 3 pedal one to try though, (cheaper than the 2 pedal ones strangely) so I can do Forward/Backwards, a maybe some sort of Scroll with the middle switch if I have it in landscape mode.
A proper A4 one would be nice though. I think I would actually take an eInk based one in preference - if I could find a reasonably priced A4 one - as the battery life would be so much better. Or maybe a Windows tablet so I could also run GuitarRig or similar for FX/MIDI stuff at the same time. Still thinking about it though. Let us know how you go.
Any update?
I would love to hear how this is going.
I am planning on getting a tablet for guitar music and would love foot pedal options.
Any suggestions? Tablets, apps, pedals etc...
I haven't used it much to be honest. The screen is a bit small, esp at 16:9 ratio for A4/Letter sheet music. The pedal idea works pretty well though, I'm using on my Thinkpad (sitting on it's side on a a music stand) for now.
I'll revisit when some genius invents a tablet which is greater than 10.2", and when a decent build quality model with Gingerbread is out.
I have to admit I'm slightly tempted with the 14" (?) EEE Windows slate that has come out recently. I think it's an i5 or so, and this would allow me to run guitar rig etc while viewing sheet music.
I purchased a Viewsonic G tablet for this very same purpose. I can read my music using Adobe in the Portrait mode ok but I would like to put it in landscape mode and use my cicada by page flip foot pedal to do a page up and page down. Have you come across anyone who can remap the keyboard to recognize page up and page down or as you have found out control N for page down.
I got my Gtablet a few weeks ago and have been playing with a few apps.
Chord Reader (pretty much just a phone), eSongBook and GuitarTapp
The each have nice features but I really need a combination of the three. I don't own a foot pedal but would like to have that feature and hear how that is working for other people.
Features I would like:
1. Change keys
2. Make setlists
3. Nice, big display
How are people mounting this for a stand? Or do you just set it on a music stand?
Best rig would be with a 13 inch macbook I believe. Check out Modbook http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook
New Sheet Music Reader: MobileSheets
For anyone that happens to come to this thread looking for information, I recently released an android sheet music reader app called MobileSheets. It's currently only available for 10'' tablets. The app is designed to let you take images or PDFs you have (either from scanning, taking a picture with the tablet camera, or from files obtained on the internet) and create songs from them. You can organize your library based on album, artist, and genre, and create setlists. It also comes with a built-in metronome, and companion app for your PC. Please check out zubersoft.com/mobilesheets for more information.
One of the best reasons to get a tablet ever! How does the footswitch work?
An update is coming out this Sunday, Dec 4th that's going to add support for any bluetooth pedal for hands-free playback. Examples of supported bluetooth pedals include the Cicada PageFlip and the Airturn BT-105. I'm going to start offering a deal soon where if you buy the Airturn BT-105 through a link on zubersoft.com/mobilesheets, you will be given a free copy of the paid version of MobileSheets.
As for how the pedal works, the previously mentioned devices have two pedals. My app supports multiple modes - the default mode is the left pedal goes back one page, the right pedal advances a page. Another mode is the left pedal scrolls the page while the right advances to the next page (great for landscape mode). Once you try hands-free page turning, you will never want to go back
hmmh... this seems to be just what i was looking for... i am planning on going completely digitla on my students, as in: have 'em watch their sheetmusic on the tablet in lesson (in this case motorola xoom), then afterwards send 'em the sheets for them to print out by themselves. i'm just sick of lugging 10+ kg of sheetmusic around all day actually i was planning on buying an inexpensive printer and hook it up to the zablet via usb, wifi or bluetooth and print the stuff for them on site, but as there's no pc or router nearby and usb doesn't semm to work either, i settled for the paperless approach (which does have it's pros and cons).
one thing i'd like to know about your program though: i've got several realbooks in pdf form that i'd like to use, each containing around 2-300 songs on about as much pages. how would i go about organizing those? simply bookmark each song seperately? or would i have to split the huge single pdf into small, single ones?
[/quote] from blue powder --- one thing i'd like to know about your program though: i've got several realbooks in pdf form that i'd like to use, each containing around 2-300 songs on about as much pages. how would i go about organizing those? simply bookmark each song seperately? or would i have to split the huge single pdf into small, single ones?[/QUOTE]
I use ezPDF viewer. (available on Android Market) It allows me to use my foot switch (cicada page flip) and allows me to mark my .pdf sheets with notes for corrections or whatever. I agree with a previous poster, once you use a foot switch you won't want to go back. I am in a JAM that has about 500 songs. It took two 3 inch binders to carry them every night. Well we have now converted 16 of the 21 members to electronic viewers. It is the only way to go.
As far as organizing my folders I simply created 26 folders labeled "A" to "Z". Then every time I add a new song I simply put it in the appropriate folder. You can leave them all in one giant folder but it takes longer to find the song you want later. I found a little pain up front saved a lot of pain later.
Enjoy
do you mark your pdf's using a pen? if so, which one? if not - how DO you do it? that's one thing i would be missing in a purely digital surrounding, being able to mark up certain things etc. i don't think i'm going to have much need for a footswitch in a teaching situation, though, and as far as gigs are concerned, i play mainly jazz, and most of the leadsheets i get are a page long. if not - tough luck, i'll play better from memory anyway ;-)
the folder a to z folder-approach seems absolutely feasible, i'd probably go even more ballistic and create several mainfolders (like fingerpicking, theory, leadsheets etc), then have the a to z folders inside those. something like that. i'm more worried though that my students will be turned off by not getting physical handouts anymore. may take them a while to get used to it
ezpdf app and boxwave pointing devices
bluepowder said:
do you mark your pdf's using a pen? if so, which one? if not - how DO you do it? that's one thing i would be missing in a purely digital surrounding, being able to mark up certain things etc. i don't think i'm going to have much need for a footswitch in a teaching situation, though, and as far as gigs are concerned, i play mainly jazz, and most of the leadsheets i get are a page long. if not - tough luck, i'll play better from memory anyway ;-)
the folder a to z folder-approach seems absolutely feasible, i'd probably go even more ballistic and create several mainfolders (like fingerpicking, theory, leadsheets etc), then have the a to z folders inside those. something like that. i'm more worried though that my students will be turned off by not getting physical handouts anymore. may take them a while to get used to it
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OK first I would recommend looking at ezpdf on the android market. The developer has been very quick to make certain changes. I can say that the program has really improved 800 % over the past 4 months I have been using it. The developer updates the product about every 4 days. New features and bug fixes. Granted I don't use all of it's features but I think it is better than Adobe. I tried to embed a copy of the annotations page but I could not so go here "https://market.android.com/details?id=udk.android.reader&hl=en"
Pen - I do use a pen/pointer to write on my pdf's. I use the boxwave products as they were rated the best and most reliable on a capacitive screen. I have bought others but I keep coming back to the boxwave products. I even have one with an actual writing pen on the other side of it so I can take paper notes if I have to.
Folders - I do the same thing with my music folders. I have it broken out to Christmas music A - Z, Our Regular Music A - Z, Then stuff that I am practicing for my self A - Z.
Sheet Music - If you are going to stick to one page and you are young enough to be able to see clearly then forget the foot pedal. It is just one more thing to have to carry. I am 60, the old eyes are not as sharp as they used to be.
Students - I don't know how you are planning on giving them the files or where you teach, ( private classes, class room setting, high school etc) But - Hey when I was learning (still am) I would have loved it if the instructor gave me a downloadable file with all of my music for the semester. Then I could either print it or put it on a tablet. My choice. Most parents today think that if they don't buy their kids the latest gizmo they will be stunted or social outcasts, so I bet most of your students already have tablets.
Another thought - Another thing to keep in mind. My buddy teaches banjo. He was going to get a tablet for himself then we talked and he decided to get a tablet and a notebook and a projector. He then calls up the sheet music on his laptop and projects it on the screen for the class of 6 students. He uses the tablet for private instruction with out the projector.
Hope that helps.
Really take a look at ezpdf
Hello -
My solution to this problem was:
1. Scan in all my sheet music as high resolution files (300 or higher).
2. Use a photoshop technique on each image to eliminate grey and make sure the blacks are black and the white background is white - (there is a great way to do this with the eyedropper tool which you can find on youtube). At this stage I also straighten the image of each page.
3. Use a photoshop action to import the individual scanned image of each page as 'layers' on a single photoshop document --- and then save as a photoshop document.
4. Use a photoshop action to stack each photoshop layer (on a given document from step 4) out in a long continuous sheet of music and then flatten the image and save as a bitmap (so now the image would look like a flat, opened out, long, scroll).
5. Use a photoshop action to set the canvas size the correct dimensions and dpi for your given display/tablet.
6. Manually open each 'scroll' and move around the systems of your music to fit in the window you have made in step 5 ---- and save each window as a high res jpeg. Save the jpeg as the name of the piece followed by the page number.
7. Use a photoshop action to add a text layer of the same value as the file name. Save as a pdf.
8. Combine the individual pdf pages into a single pdf document for each individual piece.
9. All done. I now have 3 hours of music as PDFs that are perfectly viewable in my tablet AND can be searched for using the find feature of the PDF reader (thanks to step 7). What could be easier!
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The lenovo A4 size tablet is an ugly looking brick - I wouldn't like that compared with this ipad solution
Fakebook
For many of the above reasons my favorite gigging tool is the Fakebook. It does PDF very well (even importing and indexing huge collections like a real book or vocal book), but at the same time it has thousands of built in chord charts (transposable). Nice annotation or scribbling, search, links to YouTube and Spotify performances and great playlist editing.
Best $1.50 spent on my Google Play account! play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skrivarna.fakebook.android
The Adobe Reader software lets you do Cntl-N to move to the next page (dunno why PgDn doesn't work). [/QUOTE said:
Yes. ctrl + n gDn. But what could be the code of PgUp?? If anyone knows the answer, please describe it is very important to me. . And there's a code table of Adobe Reader for Android?
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I have been using SuperNote to write notes for my classes, and I have some problems with it...
Anyone know if there is anything I/we can do to get Asus to fix some bugs?
I would love to be able to get a bug report to them so that they can maybe provide us with some updates in regards to this.
Problems (I'll add more as I remember):
- Export Notes does not export the photos or annotations
- Page 63 is exported as page 64
- When typing on the very last line, the view keeps going up and down
- There are no special characters
- it does not support basic keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Ctrl+A (Esenthel)
Might help if you told us what you think is wrong with it.
you could get a logcat while you're doing those things that screw up and send it to asus?
A logcat huh... never thought of that...
Although the thing is, I don't think sending an e-mail to support at asus dot com will do any good...
I was kinda hoping that there might be a better way than doing that...
I like the app, but these little bugs are a little bit silly... I'm not a developer, but I don't think it's too hard to fix these... right...?
For me what's most annoying is that it does not support basic keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Ctrl+A, I do have the keyboard dock, so I'd like to use it for full advantage
Ah yeah... that is annoying... lemme edit the top list and add that on.
for me, honestly, super note was disappointing. i was expecting it to be so much better.
some fixes id suggest if any rep is here, or if we wanna compile:
1. the limit on a page is annoying. youll be writing something and then it wont let you go down anymore. i know its replica of a4 paper, however, i think itd be better if itd continue downwards, like in Microsoft word.
2. the pixelation that occurs when you create an annotation and resize it.
so annoying!
3. already discussed, but the fact that a stylus doesnt work makes things hard
this sort of interrelates with point 2 above, because...
i for example will want to draw a graph. now to precisely label it, i cant do it with my finger, nor a stylus. so i have to draw it HUGE using annotation, then resize it to make it smaller. then it pixelates!
4. no autocorrect or the ability to correct. it just comes up with red lines.
5. - no change in font.
6. the ability to interchange the page type would be nice, for example: lined paper to graph paper.
7. when doing math, usually, i'd draw a line down the middle of my page to divide the page in half and thus have more working space. i wish this functionality was possible in supernote. i.e. divide the page and have your own custom sections in which you can write.
8. the lack of colours. theres only like 4! - black, blue, red, green!
9. the inability to record and type at the same time. - that includes voice recorder, and video recorder.
i have to open up the sound recorder app and use that, - this way i cant actually insert the sound clip into my notes.
10. following on from the point above, the inability to insert things! cant insert sound files, movie files!
thats all i can think of atm.
Gabroo said:
for me, honestly, super note was disappointing. i was expecting it to be so much better.
some fixes id suggest if any rep is here, or if we wanna compile:
1. the limit on a page is annoying. youll be writing something and then it wont let you go down anymore. i know its replica of a4 paper, however, i think itd be better if itd continue downwards, like in Microsoft word.
2. the pixelation that occurs when you create an annotation and resize it.
so annoying!
3. already discussed, but the fact that a stylus doesnt work makes things hard
this sort of interrelates with point 2 above, because...
i for example will want to draw a graph. now to precisely label it, i cant do it with my finger, nor a stylus. so i have to draw it HUGE using annotation, then resize it to make it smaller. then it pixelates!
4. no autocorrect or the ability to correct. it just comes up with red lines.
5. - no change in font.
6. the ability to interchange the page type would be nice, for example: lined paper to graph paper.
7. when doing math, usually, i'd draw a line down the middle of my page to divide the page in half and thus have more working space. i wish this functionality was possible in supernote. i.e. divide the page and have your own custom sections in which you can write.
8. the lack of colours. theres only like 4! - black, blue, red, green!
9. the inability to record and type at the same time. - that includes voice recorder, and video recorder.
i have to open up the sound recorder app and use that, - this way i cant actually insert the sound clip into my notes.
10. following on from the point above, the inability to insert things! cant insert sound files, movie files!
thats all i can think of atm.
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All of this! Lol
And I hate that even when you readjust the page after filling it up, when you start typing the freaking thing jumps up and puts all your words at the bottom, even intermittently throwing them off the screen.
I would definitely like to either see them put more work into this app so it truly is super, or I'd like to see someone pick it apart and create a new one that works right.
I moved this thread to the "Themes and Apps" forum because, well it just fits better here
FreeNote is much better then Supernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zdWlzaG91eGllLmZyZWVub3RlIl0.
- U can write xx pages.
- u can export notes to many apps for ex evernote.
- u can save file as pdf or photo.
- handwriting, keyboard writting, Keyboard+hand writting, touch keyboard with many options,
- u can draw all u want - not only letters and u dont to create separate sheets. U can do all these things on one page!
- and a lot of more!
I loved the app when i saw it, and after trying to use it once i disabled it.
I mainly use tablets to write histories apart from the obvious email and websurfing.
It force closed on me on a very long test note i was writing and all was lost, tried again this time copying and pasting a long piece of text and bam force close again.
To be honest i deeply regret buying the TF700
i have tried everything so far to replace a real laptop and it has proven a big waste of money...
I guess my last resot would be to try the iPad but i can't do that to myself i am afraid i might like it
mibo666 said:
FreeNote is much better then Supernote.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zdWlzaG91eGllLmZyZWVub3RlIl0.
- U can write xx pages.
- u can export notes to many apps for ex evernote.
- u can save file as pdf or photo.
- handwriting, keyboard writting, Keyboard+hand writting, touch keyboard with many options,
- u can draw all u want - not only letters and u dont to create separate sheets. U can do all these things on one page!
- and a lot of more!
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Evernote.. End of..
Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
Nazeroth said:
Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
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It's worth the premium account then then offline works like a charm.
If i wanted to pay for simple tasks I would have got an iPad, wait no they come with a decent note application... (I tested my wife's)
here is a good note taking I found not as much fuzzy stuff as super notes but doesnt force closes every time a bird flys by
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mx5ZGVsdXNpb25zLmFwcC5leHRlbnNpdmVfbm90ZXMiXQ..
Nazeroth said:
Ever note needs to be connected... try using it in the tibet while climbing the everest....
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No it doesn't... Evernote works fine off line. It just waits to sync until you're connected, unless something has changed since the last time I used it.
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When I tried with the SKY Wifi Smartpen It kept crashing when no connection was available and I could not see any notes taken unless I was online.
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When I tried with the SKY Wifi Smartpen It kept crashing when no connection was available and I could not see any notes taken unless I was online.
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I think that has more to do with the pen than Evernote. It sounds like the pen needs wifi. Is there an option to use bluetooth instead of wifi?
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No, not the pen, I transfered notes from the pen to evernotes, then tried to access the notes from evernotes and could not unless online
Yes, exactly. The pen uploads the notes to the Evernote cloud, so how would you be able to access them without the internet? Unless I'm misunderstanding you, this would be the problem regardless of what note app or service you use, unless the pen can somehow transfer the notes directly to the Prime. There is no service in the world that can access a cloud-based server without access to the internet.
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Okay, so I've been dabbling with app development for a while now but I haven't found the motivation to actually work on a sizable project. I just don't have any good or interesting ideas.
So, I'm turning to you, XDA. Are there any apps that you'd like to see exist? Or any apps that you use that you'd like to see a better version of?
I'm not promising to actually do these and release them, I'm just looking for ideas to motivate myself to start on a project. Obviously, if I actually get something worthy of release, I'll share it.
So, any ideas? Thanks in advance.
I have way too many ideas and lack motivation lol I also have a very screwed up memory, like right now I can think of 5 ideas I had but I can't place them. One had to do with location but until I get home and find the notebook I write all my ideas in I couldn't tell you. Hell I can't even remember what happened 5 minutes ago with out seriously focusing on what happened 5 minutes ago
This is just my add kicking in but I wondered if I could parse an md5 checksum in android terminal emulator and it turns out md5sum utility is built it...neat!
The first app I ever wrote was born by asking myself, "What do I want my phone to do that it can't currently do?"
This made development much more enjoyable as it was something I was interested in and that kept me going and gave me the will to follow thru until it worked.
If you're looking to make an app for someone else, here's my suggestion:
I'd like a 1x1 toggle widget that does the following:
Toggle On (potato mode):
Screen Brightness at lowest
Bluetooth off
GPS off
Mobile Network off
WiFi off
AutoSync off
Toggle Off (radsauce mode):
Return to whatever settings I was using before pressing Toggle On
Nice.
I have a bunch of baby videos (baby Einstein and whatnot) in avi format that I use a third party player to play when traveling. The problem is that I can't give the phone to my daughter because she presses a button or something that stops the video. Same with YouTube vids. So i have to hold the phone the whole time.
Would love a kind of baby lock that disables the touchscreen and buttons but allows third party apps to run behind it (like third party media players and YouTube) so that she can hold the phone herself while her videos or music is playing. It should then be able to be unlocked by pressing a combination of buttons at the same time or something like that. This would be ideal on those long car rides. You parents know where I'm coming from...
There's an app out there already that does something similar, but it's limited to the stock video player only.
How's that for an app idea?
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I have a bunch of baby videos (baby Einstein and whatnot) in avi format that I use a third party player to play when traveling. The problem is that I can't give the phone to my daughter because she presses a button or something that stops the video. Same with YouTube vids. So i have to hold the phone the whole time.
Would love a kind of baby lock that disables the touchscreen and buttons but allows third party apps to run behind it (like third party media players and YouTube) so that she can hold the phone herself while her videos or music is playing. It should then be able to be unlocked by pressing a combination of buttons at the same time or something like that. This would be ideal on those long car rides. You parents know where I'm coming from...
There's an app out there already that does something similar, but it's limited to the stock video player only.
How's that for an app idea?
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That's a pretty interesting idea. Sadly, I won't know if anything is possible until I give it a try, because I'll be learning a lot as I go (I already know Java and I've studied some guides to making apps, as well as a book that I have, but it isn't enough to just magic a useful app together). I'll keep a list and I'll give each thing a try to see if I can pull anything off.
Thanks!
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The first app I ever wrote was born by asking myself, "What do I want my phone to do that it can't currently do?"
This made development much more enjoyable as it was something I was interested in and that kept me going and gave me the will to follow thru until it worked.
If you're looking to make an app for someone else, here's my suggestion:
I'd like a 1x1 toggle widget that does the following:
Toggle On (potato mode):
Screen Brightness at lowest
Bluetooth off
GPS off
Mobile Network off
WiFi off
AutoSync off
Toggle Off (radsauce mode):
Return to whatever settings I was using before pressing Toggle On
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I will consider this one as well. On the surface, it doesn't seem like it would be overly complicated.
fachadick said:
I have a bunch of baby videos (baby Einstein and whatnot) in avi format that I use a third party player to play when traveling. The problem is that I can't give the phone to my daughter because she presses a button or something that stops the video. Same with YouTube vids. So i have to hold the phone the whole time.
Would love a kind of baby lock that disables the touchscreen and buttons but allows third party apps to run behind it (like third party media players and YouTube) so that she can hold the phone herself while her videos or music is playing. It should then be able to be unlocked by pressing a combination of buttons at the same time or something like that. This would be ideal on those long car rides. You parents know where I'm coming from...
There's an app out there already that does something similar, but it's limited to the stock video player only.
How's that for an app idea?
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As far as media players go, Mx player locks so u have to press the unlock on screen icon to unlock touch buttons.
While it doesn't work for YouTube app, u can use it as default streaming and to watch downloaded movies.
Issue ?partially? solved..
Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
Touch block comes to mind, last I checked it didn't offer a hardware unlock solution. It disables the touch screen, except for the notification bar. You lock and unlock from there
Thank both of you - I had no idea those were out there, I'll check both of them out!
How's about an app that let's you keep your extSDcard in your phone so that when flashing roms, said app would protect it from being reformatted. It's a pain in the arse having to unmount it/pull it out.
The U.S government wouldn't lie to us...would they?
I don't pull my external sd card when flashing ROMs and I've never had it get formatted. Do you use TWRP?
no app will protect you from recovery since there is no android environment to run the app. Theres also no reason to pull sd card from phone when flashing a new rom.
Iv actually been a lil preoccupied to do anything w/my phone. The only thing Iv done w/it is Zedomax's root method and have yet to flash any roms
The U.S government wouldn't lie to us...would they?
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SoraX64 said:
Okay, so I've been dabbling with app development for a while now but I haven't found the motivation to actually work on a sizable project. I just don't have any good or interesting ideas.
So, I'm turning to you, XDA. Are there any apps that you'd like to see exist? Or any apps that you use that you'd like to see a better version of?
I'm not promising to actually do these and release them, I'm just looking for ideas to motivate myself to start on a project. Obviously, if I actually get something worthy of release, I'll share it.
So, any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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My other idea wasnt gud so how's about this one. There are quite a few games still floating about that were pre android. I guess this would be an emulator for pre android games. One that comes to mine is a game by glu 'Transformers'.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=muOBTLXUmqM&desktop_uri=/watch?v=muOBTLXUmqM
The U.S government wouldn't lie to us...would they?
There's a full java me port of that game, you just need to convert the jar/jad files and run it in an app called j2me player. Can't guarantee it will run but a lot of java games do
With JB android has started to meet expectations of using tablets and cells for audio engineering apps. I'm a comm engineer by day and run a recording studio by night and hate to admit the integrations of apple iPad etc work very well with multi track audio apps, up until now, android latency issues have preventd good audio multimedia apps so I would love to see more of that development. There is an app called audio evolution now which is amazing and touches the surface of android JB potential.
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Wasn't the latency due to the fact that android didnt use a realtime kernel? Every distro on the PC side that I've used, I've had to patch or replace the kernel to get realtime support for audio
How about a working Bluetooth keyboard and mouse software? One that actuallys good pairing and better features.
Side stepping the Bluetooth connection would challenge you a little. The kcm and no file with matching dictionary would also be a good challenge.
an app that can decompile and recompile apk
How about an app that let's you download apps that you know will run on your phone but the playstore says your device is not supported for that app. App device support bypass?
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I have an android tablet I'm trying to use for a presentation. I have about 10 or 15 slides I need to use, but they aren't in any particular order. I may need to see slide 2, then 4, then 9, then back to 4, etc. It will always be different. I have been able to find programs that can display full screen photos, pdfs, powerpoints, or whatever, but none of them seem to allow more than up or down (forward, reverse). I could do that, but it isn't very elegant or pleasant for the viewers.
I purchased tasker and have used it for a variety of things. I would like to be able to link a button on my keyboard remote to specific slides (jpg, pdf, whatever). So, when I hit the "A" it goes to slide 11. I hope that makes sense. It seems I could use a tasker profile to make button presses, but not to have button presses link to actions. I assume I am wrong, but I can not figure it out.
Does anyone have a good solution to this? Are there other programs available that would be easier to set up? I could use pdf, powerpoint, any type of image, or even something I haven't thought of. I've even wondered if I would be better off using an old phone to connect with bluetooth and make tasker "buttons" to perform specific tasks, but that seems more complex and more prone to breaking than a hardware remote.
I have a few photo viewers that work reasonably well, but many like to do strange things to the formatting or still show the menu bar or have stuff pop up over the images.
I previously did this with a windows machine and made eventghost switch backgrounds based on remote buttons. However, I'm leary of doing that as android seems to be rather poor at correctly formatting a background image without zooming/cropping oddly.
Any help would be great. Thanks for even reading down this far.
Hi guys!
I'm working on a Car PC software and I'm looking for contributors. You can find the project on github: https://github.com/viktorgino/headunit-desktop
More about the project:
HeadUnit Desktop is a based free and open source software that is intended to be run on computers built into cars. This software is currently under active development and lot of the features are experimental. As of now there are three main features:
Media player with a media library and media scanner
Android Auto™ client
DAB radio (integrating welle.io)
Proposed features:
FM radio
CAN bus sniffer with a customizable profile for each car.
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Some screenshots of the GUI: http://imgur.com/a/pnrpy
And a screen recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26EYhQuH-Xs
I'm using the C++ and Qt for this project, the front end is QML.
If you are interested in helping with this project, then PM me here, hit me up on Gitter https://gitter.im/headunit-desktop or drop me an email on [email protected]
Pretty excited about this, wish I could help
very interesting project today I try it on my p9 lite. any help files regarding steering wheel controls and buttons?
This is exactly the type of experience that I was looking for, something that allows AA but also maintains AM/FM radio so this can be used as a replacement to the current stereo.
I've been trying to get this installed, but running into some issues in the instructions.
I have the PI all setup, and now following the instructions here:
I'm stuck on this step:
After you’ve installed Qt add the lib folder its installed in to the library load path, the bin folder to your PATH and the lib/pkgconfig folder to the pkg-config path.
I'm not really sure what it's telling me to do here or how to do it.
Can anyone help?
So i got this up and running, this has a lot of potential.
Hopefully development of it can continue soon.
I have a few questions I'm hoping someone can answer.
Questions on current build
1. How is the progress for the FM radio going? Do you know what hardware requirements will be to use AM/FM?
This was the biggest draw to me, to allow me to use this as a replacement to a standard head unit.
2. With Android Audio, when I push the button to go into AA mode. When I plug my phone in, nothing happens? I have AA installed on my phone and it works on other devices.
3. I have a red box at the bottom of the screen that says 'no valid device found use Null device instead.'
What is this trying to tell me? Message is there regardless if phone is plugged in or not.
4. How do you enable the bluetooth so it can connect to the phone contacts etc?
Features I would like to see:
1. Customization navigation bar.
This will be going in an older car, with old fashion lever type heater controls, so I really don't need the climate control button on the screen. Be nice to be able to swap that out for something else.
Also I don't think DAB radio is available in the US, so that would be another one that I would like to remove. Any plans on HD radio for those in the US?
2. Will this support wireless AA at some point?
3. Suppress the Pi Login/Password screen on boot. It seems if you wait about 20 seconds it skips over it automatically. Would be nice in the settings if there was a way to turn that on/off.
So I think this is almost exactly what I have been looking for as a carpc setup, but I had a couple of questions/suggestions. It would be great if you could customize the "action menu" on the right to open other apps that are installed on the system. Like chrisfromwa said above, I have an older car and have no need for the A/C controls, but would I do have an aftermarket fuel injection system and have tuning software currently running on my Raspberry Pi that I would like to be able to open from the "desktop" environment. Also, while I realize that you can do mapping through Android Auto, it would be great if you could launch a navigation system that is installed on the Pi itself like Navit. That way I could have fully offline maps and navigation via a USB GPS dongle and not have to worry about my phone having a signal to have mapping info.
Ultimately I'm really just looking for a "launcher" of sorts that can do FM radio, navigation, and open my tuning app, but that has a nice interface that is easy to use in a car with the 7" touchscreen I have. This is one of the most promising I have seen and would love it if it could launch other apps from the main screen.
i would like to ask a question, and please know that i mean ABSOLUTELY no disrespect by this, but why build one? I ask because there are many head units that are double din, touchscreen, can play darn near every file known to man, have android auto, can interface easily with your car itself, much less the steering wheel controls (cheap interface built with the molex plugs needed for plug-n-play use. Again, i mean no disrespect as i tried doing this a few years back. I gave up because to do it properly, i found that i would have to pretty much rewrite the kernel so that it could idle when necessary and go into full-on ready in seconds vs a full boot every time. Creating an output section thats worth a damn would also prove to be expensive, which is what inexorably led me back to the pioneers, kenwoods etc etc etc of the world. I guess if youre wanting full, unrestricted access to what android has to offer while driving, that would explain it then. But you can also achieve this with some automated processes in your phone to lie to the deck and tell it that youre not moving etc etc. Anyways, just curious of your reasoning for doing this
Youdoofus said:
i would like to ask a question, and please know that i mean ABSOLUTELY no disrespect by this, but why build one? I ask because there are many head units that are double din, touchscreen, can play darn near every file known to man, have android auto, can interface easily with your car itself, much less the steering wheel controls (cheap interface built with the molex plugs needed for plug-n-play use. Again, i mean no disrespect as i tried doing this a few years back. I gave up because to do it properly, i found that i would have to pretty much rewrite the kernel so that it could idle when necessary and go into full-on ready in seconds vs a full boot every time. Creating an output section thats worth a damn would also prove to be expensive, which is what inexorably led me back to the pioneers, kenwoods etc etc etc of the world. I guess if youre wanting full, unrestricted access to what android has to offer while driving, that would explain it then. But you can also achieve this with some automated processes in your phone to lie to the deck and tell it that youre not moving etc etc. Anyways, just curious of your reasoning for doing this
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I've built my own and after you see so many people having issues with their official head units, it is nice to know that you have the control and aren't at the mercy of a car manufacturer or company. Also, I can use it to play retro games and more. Plus I have a unique dashboard that I have helped design in some ways. Honestly I've tried this project and while it was heading in a good direction there wasn't enough for me to use it as it is currently. I have something else and don't have to pay for like Openauto pro. It's called OpenDash and while it functions as is, it is continuously adding functionality and customizations that you can't find in anything commercial.
talon_dgnr8 said:
I've built my own and after you see so many people having issues with their official head units, it is nice to know that you have the control and aren't at the mercy of a car manufacturer or company. Also, I can use it to play retro games and more. Plus I have a unique dashboard that I have helped design in some ways. Honestly I've tried this project and while it was heading in a good direction there wasn't enough for me to use it as it is currently. I have something else and don't have to pay for like Openauto pro. It's called OpenDash and while it functions as is, it is continuously adding functionality and customizations that you can't find in anything commercial.
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Right on. What model car?