I have an Incredible, thinking of trying out Fascinate with Community ROM - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone made this switch? I currently have a stock HTC Incredible. I had custom ROMs on it but went back to stock and stayed there. I love the Fascinate hardware just not the stock software. I was thinking of picking one up and flashing the new Community ROM. How does the Community ROM compare to stock Sense on the Incredible? (if anyone has made the switch themselves)
-I need it to work with an Exchange email account
-Google Navigation/GPS to work flawlessly
Should I just stick with the Incredible? Or would the Community ROM work for me?

Over all the experience will be simpler and less cluttered without sense. My phone is super fast and smooth with the comrom. My gps works great. The only problem for you will be the lack of htc sync. Other than that everything will be an improvement especially the screen.
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I just made the same switch a few weeks ago. The 2 things I miss about the dinc are CM7 nightlies and the ease of flashing (no odin, recovery/radio confusion, etc). I'm loving the superior processor, gpu, and screen on the fascinate. I'd say go for it. Get a case though. This thing is a wet bar of soap.
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Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.

MrBigFeathers said:
Thanks guys. The worst thing that would happen is I don't like it and just go back to the Incredible. So does the community ROM work well with exchange accounts?
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Com Rom works flawlessly with Exchange email.

superchunkwii said:
My vote would be to stick with your INC and go to cyanogenmod 7. Its a great rom.
Then get one of the next-gen phones launching at year's end with 4G.
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I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long

MrBigFeathers said:
I actually was on CM7 for a bit but prefer stock Sense over it. I just really want a 4 inch screen and that Super AMOLED. But I will probably just tough it out. I want a new phone but don't want to waste the upgrade on the Incredible 2. I've had my Incredible a year now, that's too long
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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.

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A very smart move indeed. The fascinate is quite impressive but in my opinion is past its prime with the way technology is moving. We are on the event horizon of the SGSII and the Droid Charge is a small step up from our phone.
Hold out till we hear news of the iteration of the SGSII Verizon will be getting before you make a choice. If we get the actual SGSII I will be jumping ship for it just for the support and hardware.
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Yeah, I always intended to get the SGS2 but who knows if/when that will be here especially for Verizon. Just wanted something to tide me over. Even though the Incredible is a great phone I get bored of my phones so quickly.
Hopefully the SGS2 comes by September but I won't hold my breath.

I made the switch a week ago, though I still have my incredible in case I want to go back. The main reason I bought the fascinate was for the super amoled 4 inch screen and it just officially got 2.2. Very nice phone and it was kind of cool learning the rooting process all over again. Its definitely not as easy as the incredible, especially since I can't use rom manager with it but its not like its that bad. I am a rom whore though so that much I do miss about the incredible.I'm basically jumping back and forth from community and evil roms. I use different kernels and undervolting to occupy my time.
I got mine for 200 on craigslist in perfect condition with a case and screen protectors. I wouldn't pay more since it seems it will soon be fazed out like the inc and the development isn't as strong as htc, though I wish it was. I don't mean that as the devs are bad, just not as many. The fascinate seems to have absorbed alt of the great devs from the eris.
As far as those things you need working, I don't use them so i can't help you there. sorry.
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Vib or mytouch 4G?

Hello folks,
I'm a loyal VZW customer, please don't throw tomatoes, and I love my Fascinate even though it has a few warts. My friend is on Tmo and ready to chuck his old BB into the Tennessee River. After much reading it seems to come down to the Vibrant or the mytouch 4G. I know that the mytouch was giving folks some grief in rooting and so forth and the vibrant has been sorted out.
My question is can someone who has T-mo give me opinions on these phones? I know this is the Vib forum and expect answers accordingly but the Vib is basically the slightly older brother to my Fascinate and I know how much it rocks even with Sammy dragging their feet at times.
Thanks.
As much as I love my vibrant I would go with the mytouch.
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I agree. MyTouch or HD7 if I could do it again (if they existed ).
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I think your friend should wait for Nexus S. It is coming to T-mobile around mid December.
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I think your friend should wait for Nexus S. It is coming to T-mobile around mid December.
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This. Supposed to launch December 16. As the new dec phone it means timely upgrades to the os.
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I would go for the MT4G eaven over the nexus s, just saying...
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I think your friend should wait for Nexus S. It is coming to T-mobile around mid December.
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Only thing on the Nexus S that's better than the Vibrant is the NAND chip and the OS.
Everything else is arguably worse, or the same at best.
Well, maybe the GPS will work right.
In any case, that phone is not "worth the wait."
you already have a fascinate, why not try other manufacturer like htc instead of samsung.
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Only thing on the Nexus S that's better than the Vibrant is the NAND chip and the OS.
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The NFC chip may be nice. The EXT4 filesystem is too. The FFC and BFC flash are probably important to some. The lack of an SD card is bad. I don't want a Nexus S, myself. The Vibrant is still my favorite.
bilbotn said:
Hello folks,
I'm a loyal VZW customer, please don't throw tomatoes, and I love my Fascinate even though it has a few warts. My friend is on Tmo and ready to chuck his old BB into the Tennessee River. After much reading it seems to come down to the Vibrant or the mytouch 4G. I know that the mytouch was giving folks some grief in rooting and so forth and the vibrant has been sorted out.
My question is can someone who has T-mo give me opinions on these phones? I know this is the Vib forum and expect answers accordingly but the Vib is basically the slightly older brother to my Fascinate and I know how much it rocks even with Sammy dragging their feet at times.
Thanks.
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Mytouch 4G IMO. Physically it just feels nicer, it has hsdpa+ (meh), has a front facing camera, and the GPS works right on it. The built in software is slightly less bad than the Vibrant's, and I'd actually be willing to bet that it will see an official CM build before the Vibrant does (despite being released so much later).
Tell him to suck it up till the dual-core phones come out in early 2011.
I absolutely love the Vibrant. So hard to brick, lots of development, Cyanogen is going to happen, great hardware, great screen.
The MT4G has advantages, but i think it is ugly as Duck (kind of me not to cuss, right).... I would hate to pick up that phone everyday... it is just not attractive, at all to me. the data speed would be nice though, if you are in a "4G" city.
epakrat75 said:
The NFC chip may be nice. The EXT4 filesystem is too. The FFC and BFC flash are probably important to some. The lack of an SD card is bad. I don't want a Nexus S, myself. The Vibrant is still my favorite.
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The NAND chip in the Nexus S is much better than the Vibrants. There's a chance that even with RFS we would not be getting the types of lags we get if we had the better NAND chip.
Camera Flash, LED Notification are pretty basic features and Samsung not giving them to us was a faux pas - but they didn't really have any competition on our carrier when the phone was released (only the HD2, that was it), so there wasn't any real incentive for them to put them on there - all things considered.
FFC is nice but not necessary. Maybe in a year or so the market will get to a point where it's an expected feature.
Lack of SD card is bad but with 16GB storage I'd take a better NAND and a LED Notification and Flash over a card slot, personally...
Don't go for the MyTrash 4g. Come on. You should know better than that. Just get a Nexus S next week and you'll be fine. It has 2.3. Nice clean interface, no TouchWiz, SAMOLED screen, Front facing camera. It's a no brainer!
MyTrash 4G is ugly, has a washed out screen, ugliest UI I've ever seen on a phone, speaker sucks, battery life sucks, camera sucks. Garbage. Why would anyone on earth ever consdier that POS. So what if it has HSPA+! So what if it has a FFC and so what if has a so called "second generation" processor. Like it's that much faster. Please. Believe me, it isn't. The Nexus S probably wont have Samsungs stupid file system and since it will have 2.3, speed will be on par with the MyTrash if not just a little behind but only by a nose.
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The NAND chip in the Nexus S is much better than the Vibrants. There's a chance that even with RFS we would not be getting the types of lags we get if we had the better NAND chip.
Camera Flash, LED Notification are pretty basic features and Samsung not giving them to us was a faux pas - but they didn't really have any competition on our carrier when the phone was released (only the HD2, that was it), so there wasn't any real incentive for them to put them on there - all things considered.
FFC is nice but not necessary. Maybe in a year or so the market will get to a point where it's an expected feature.
Lack of SD card is bad but with 16GB storage I'd take a better NAND and a LED Notification and Flash over a card slot, personally...
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Me too. I do not use this as my primary music player or for videos. 16 gb is plenty for me.
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one thing i only like about the mytouch 4g is carly is advertising it.
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one thing i only like about the mytouch 4g is carly is advertising it.
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lol yeah. But I'm really disappointed at HTC. They make good ****. Why did they have to be patronizing and give T-Mo a Fisher Price/Tech looking ugly ass phone with a ugly user interface. Why couldn't they just make a phone with the HD7/Evo's body and just use regular Sense. That's all they had to do.
The nexus s runs VANILLA ANDROID which means it will get updates Way before the vibrant or MT4G. Id wait for the nexus s and try it out in person.
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I have a Vibrant and a Nexus One and a MT4G. I am going to sell my Nexus One . I like the Vibrant best as I am using it to learn the how to;s and where for's of rooting and flashing etc. I am a nubie and I do not feel comfortable doing much to the Nexus One or the Mt4g. The Vibrant seems to be very difficult to do total damage to(at least thats what I have read on these threads) but I hope I do not find out just how difficult that is any time soon. IMO the Mt4g is the best all around phone. That is for phone basics and it does everything well ( however apparently no one thing great) and is just a solid performer, but it seems to not be user friendly to users who are not well versed in Adb or have a lot of experience in rooting and flashing and recovering etc. The Vibrant has Odin which I find to be very useful once you finally get it installed. That is just my opinion. I am going to keep the Vibrant for sure and probably the MT4g and am in the process of deciding whether or not to go for the Nexus S. (I probably will)
This phone isn't for me. It really is for a friend that really doesn't have any intention of doing any major "customization".
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Just got my Wife a Mytouch 4G and after playing with it I am torn. Vibrant is great, but the random lags drive me nutz. Yes I have played with custom roms and they do seem to help but always come across weird glitches and end up back on stock as at least it is 100% stable for me. MT4G just seems over all snappier, and while screen isn't as vibrant, never had issues with blurry text in web browser. Also forgot how nice it was having HTC phones turn over to silence incoming calls and other little stuff like that. Vibrant is much lighter though, MT4G is heavier than it looks!
If I had to do it over, would probably get the MT4G.
Nexus S is a let down for me. Memory card slot would be nice, but no HSDPA+? WTF?

Stick with photon over epic 4g touch

If your thinking about changing from the photon to the epic 4g touch. I wouldnt switch and the reason i say dont switch is because i have a history with samsung i have had the captivate,droid charge, revolution,tab, infuse which is enough to know about them. And with motorola i had a droid 1, droid 2 and droid 3, droid x and x2,xoom and photon. And i can honestly that motorola hands down makes the better product alot of people i know buy into what the reviewers say about the device and not make our own judgement. On samsung i found myself rooting it and the installing a lagfix with motorola i root and setcpu and its good. Also the build quality with way different motorola has them beat in that department. I mean that plastic with samsung is not got one drop and its bad yea its thin but ur paying the price for it with build quality. All im saying is put motorola phones next to samsung and u will c a major difference. And as for as those speed tests go thats all good that u get a highscore and all but the photon is a beast of a phone. Dont b easy fooled cause the epic is new on the block. Also the screen on the photon is amazing.
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Also when i had the infuse my signal was in and out all the time and yes it was att but when i put my sim in my dell streak i didnt have that problem
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Where is all the support
I have been debating back and forth and which phone to keep... The Photon is a great phone but it seems like there has only been crickets in the dev section. I look at the SGS2 dev section and there is tons of things going on. I love android because I find it fun playing with the phones, changing ROMS and everything else.. But it seems like there are not a lot of devs interested in this phone, and honestly I don't have enough time to learn how to be a dev, I just follow the instructions.. I guess we will see... oh and GO PACKERS.
I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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I've had both MORE Samsungs and more Motos than what you have listed.
I cannot find the truth in your post
When work gave me a Moto Nextel i950 I had a Samsung a680.
When work gave me a Moto Razr I had a Samsung Blade.
And on and on and on.....
Everyone says some BS about Samsungs flimsy build.....I don't see it....I've NEVER seen it.
My Samsung Vibrant was built NO DIFFERENT in quality to this Photon.....BOTH have cheesy plastic backs.
HTC has cheesy plastic backs.
LG has cheesy plastic backs.
Huawei has cheesy plastic backs.
Christ get over it already.
I'm dropping this Photon POS due to the LOCKED bootloader.
At least with Samsung I can flash and tweak to my hearts content.
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Locked bootloader? Mine is unlocked.
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I wont be jumping into anything, I'll wait this one out and see what happens. I too wish there was more going on in the dev section bit I'm not willing to give up my great battery life, signal and GPS until Sammy is proven good.
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newalker91 said:
You sir seem to have something stuck up your you know what. They arent talking about the plastic backs, theyre talking about the fact that Samsung in general has issues with overheating, low signal, shotty GPS, random battery drains, and an overall flimsy structure. You also don't seem to be doing any research, as the bootloader is unlocked on the Photon now.
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I have an epic, and this is all true.
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Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
@n2ishun u talking about phones that dont count we r talking about android and i had more phones than that but im not talking about flip phones and messaging phones im talking about more updated phones anybody that really into phones know whats up i got the epic right now and the droid 3 and photon motorola has a better build quality call quality.
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Meh.... Bootloader unlocked without 4G may as well be locked at this point. Moto is killing this phone sitting on their thumbs with no official bootloader unlock.
I went from a Samsung vibrant to the photon. For the most part I loved the vibrant. My phone before that was a nexus one. Their is a noticeable difference in build quality. I prefer htc and Motorola over Samsung. Yeah the new epic touch 4 g is ultra thin but will it last two years? I plan on keeping my photon till my two year contact is up. Also getting updates was a pain with Samsung. They doing do ota updates, but you have to install it from a PC and go thru this whole process thats a pain.
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After messing with the Samsung infuse I changed my mind about swhiching. The screen is way to big and with only a 800 x 480 resolution it fails. Sprint should of just kept it at 4.3 inches which I think is the sweet spot for phones.
All that is well and good but I had a Photon, upgraded to MR5, had all the tips and tricks and I STILL had NO AUDIO on calls. Is it too much to ask that I have audio on a call that by all indications has gone through? If I can make and receive calls on the Samsung then that's the phone for me.
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I feel like we've been through this with you before. It was your fault for not exchanging a defective device, so you have no leg to stand on coming back to this forum trying to bash the photon.
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+10
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plmiller0905 said:
Not to mention...Samsung is also very slow on updates. The Epic is still on 2.2 while the almost all of Motorola phones has been or will be updated to 2.3.
With Ice cream sandwich right around the corner, I'm just not so sure I want to exchange my Photon for the Epic Touch.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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shawn328 said:
Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Nexus phones and "phones they own" are a bit different.
I was really annoyed at the lack of development for a while but then I thought back to my evo which really needed it to keep up, and the epic were anything other than bone stock had stupid connectivity issues. I've rooted my mopho to restore apps and that's it. It just works outside the box. if I really feel like getting squirrley I might look to remove the bloat with root explorer. But ive gotten amazing battery life, awesome performance, great signal and call quality. Really im only missing the dev from my old flash junkie ways not that the phone needs it.
Basically if yall want to leave then GTFO and stop posting, if you want to stay let them GTFO and enjoy your amazing phone. I doubt it will be all too soon that this phone becomes too underspecced to run our favorite apps.
If you are having issues and haven't screwed with removing system apps and have tried removing all installed apps and putting them back on one at a time bring your phone back it probably was a bad build. Its really not that hard people, the vast majority love how this phone functions, the fact that I can see it in full sunlight is awesome.
If you want better benchmarks go get the GSII and pray to whatever God you believe in that the hardware is compatible enough to make use of all of those devs already there otherwise it could be an EPIC fiasco all over again. Base your opinions on the here and now, not some future potential that may or may not be achieved later. Just don't come back and complain about reception/gloat about some number on a benchmark let us happy MoPhoers be.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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/agree. =) can't wait for ice cream sandwich.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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Oooo! I didn't even think of that. Good point. I hope this actually happens (getting excited, cannot contain myself!!!) lol
The only thing I wish this phone had were toggles on the notification pull down menu. Those are so nice on Sammy and HTC. I've tried some of the apps that do this, but they all tell me my phone doesn't support multiple toggles on a single widget. If someone could figure out a way to do this, I would forget all about the e4gt.
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Also considering Motorola is now owned by google, we'll probably get ice cream sandwich within in the first month of it's release. Google has had a great track record updating phones they own.
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I wouldn't expect that to be of much benefit to a phone that is already on the market though. I'm looking forward to an amazing Android moto, yes, but I dont expect the photon to become that device.
On the Samsungs again, they don't get updated, they get released partially functional and then ditched. Some of you are talking about ice cream sandwich now? Epics froyo update was painfully late. We still can't get a full-featured GB. Our front camera only works sideways in video chat. And our TV output is blocked. Bring into this everything that was already mentioned about overheating, poor signal, shoddy GPS, and random battery drains. It would take a lot of convincing to get me to buy another one.
I'm totally digging this photon thing, but looking g forward to what's next from motogoogle.
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Is this phone worth upgrading from the TBolt?

Hi all, just need a few opinions from some people, and who better to ask than Rezound owners themselves? Currently I have my TBolt and I love it except a few things are starting to go bad with it. The haptic feedback is starting to go out, it doesn't always vibrate when I'm getting a call or text even though I know for a fact I have it set on vibrate and the back lights on the capacitive buttons are starting not to work all the time. It's just starting to get a little annoying. So I was thinking of either getting a replacement TBolt or possibly upgrading to the Rezound. I wanted to know if this phone was worth getting or if I should just stick with this TBolt til the next gen Verizon HTC phone came out. Thanks
coming from both a tbolt and a dinc2 id say yes, it's worth the upgrade.
Came from inc2, get it and you won't be able to put it down
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No I hate it!! It has too good of a screen and too good of signal strength.
Coming from the incredible, it's a substantial upgrade. I'd say try to get a rezound as a replacement to the thunderbolt. Maybe make a big deal about it. If not, I'd personally say to wait until a One X variant comes to Verizon.
I came from the evo4G and my wife has a tbolt this phone smokes both of them love it so much I would say wait for the HTC one but sources say it won't be on.Verizon just sprint and att. But you won't regret getting this phone
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No I hate it!! It has too good of a screen and too good of signal strength.
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Lol
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Lol
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I came from a bolt. I think its a substantial upgrade, but I stole my girls upgrade and gave her my bolt to get this. So...definatly a $300 substantial upgrade. Idk about 600+ for retail. The screen is gorgeous and updating like 11 market apps while using your phone without a hiccup is very nice. Do miss the kickstand though lol
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I came from the tbolt, complained over and over, and after going through 5 tbolts they said I was worthy of switching devices. Asked and received the rezound. Substantial improvement. Even with mostly just sense based roms available, the difference is dramatic. I'd definitely say upgrade to the rez!
I agree. worth the update now that ICS can be used daily. within time we'll have custom kernels and eventually aosp
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Yes. But don't blame us if something better comes out the day after you upgrade.
I mean, the decision is ultimately up to you.
Rezound upgrade
I had a Thunderbolt and now am using a Rezound. I absolutely love this phone. I am also happy with ICS and appreciate all the devs hard work.
Let's just say I was waiting in anticipation for this phone when this was still called the Vigor!
I had the Thunderbolt. Bought the Rezound and never looked back. Alot more memory.
On the leaked stock ICS RUU and loving it.
The screen on the rezound is amazing and the batt life is decent, but there's no S-off and there's really not a lot of dev work going on for this phone. Only a couple of roms to choose from. Depends on what you're really looking for. Stock phone with a great display, then absolutely its worth the upgrade. If you like doing lots of flashing and a wide selection of roms, then absolutely not.
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The screen on the rezound is amazing and the batt life is decent, but there's no S-off and there's really not a lot of dev work going on for this phone. Only a couple of roms to choose from. Depends on what you're really looking for. Stock phone with a great display, then absolutely its worth the upgrade. If you like doing lots of flashing and a wide selection of roms, then absolutely not.
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This. Tbolt had different sense version roms, aosp roms, miui, senseless. We have sense and senseless
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What's limiting us is the inability to gain S-Off, either way I prefer smaller groups of custom roms available versus nearly every dev working on the device. It can potentially make a huge jumble of a mess. I think the rom that came pre-flashed on it is actually very good, so why try to fix what's not broken.
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What's limiting us is the inability to gain S-Off, either way I prefer smaller groups of custom roms available versus nearly every dev working on the device. It can potentially make a huge jumble of a mess. I think the rom that came pre-flashed on it is actually very good, so why try to fix what's not broken.
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I don't know about you but I'd want there to be as many devs as possible.
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I don't know about you but I'd want there to be as many devs as possible.
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the more devs the better. i know some are comfortable with what we have and im not bashing but if we had more devs im sure s-off and aosp would probably be here already. the rezound is still a good device non the less.
I find it awkward that people say they like the feel of the extendable battery. I thought that was one of the reasons people went HTC over Samsung because of the perceived build quality. None of my Samsung phones have ever creaked as bad as this phone does with the extended battery put on. Makes it feel even worse than my old MT3G.

Little Advice from Current Owners

I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
argolfermd said:
I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
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Well, obviously the dev community is here to the extent that Team CodeFire has successfully unlocked the bootloader. There is also a modified stock ROM available (which I am happily using). We should also be expecting AOSP 4.2 pretty soon (heard rumors of possibly this Friday). While there aren't many ROM options at the moment, the dev community is definitely present and I believe it's only a matter of time before we start seeing more support.
I am seriously hoping that the N4 base is able to be easily ported over as mentioned. This would make this phone a Nexus 4 but with LTE and SD!!
Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
argolfermd said:
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Hell I've changed phones 10 times this year.
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argolfermd said:
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Yeah dude get the og
the best phone ever
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I came from vivid too
the best phone ever
Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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I did want to NOT like this phone - mainly because it's an LG. But it's stupidly fast and smooth. If we see AOSP 4.2 or CM 10.1 on this beast it will be unstoppable! :cyclops:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
You totally should get the phone as is. Even with no further dev support. You have root, unlocked bootloader, and the stock rom debloated with tether functionality restored.
There is nothing you can't do with the stock rom. And when Jellybean comes out from LG, it will be debloated again. So even if you don't want the nexus rom or cyanogenmod (you'd be crazy not too), it's the best phone out right now. Even better than the Nexus 4.
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Infekxion said:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
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I was seriously wanting the Note II as well because the huge screen but this UI I feels MUCH better then TouchWiz and hardware wise it is an absolute beast. Not to say the Note II isn't fast but nothing is touching this device right now. This phone is screaming fast just imagine when it gets 4.1 or 4.2!
I just couldn't go for the Nexus 4 since it seriously lacks storage space. 8 or 16GB with no SD??? C'MON! Hell, I just installed The Bard's Tale and selected the HD pack and it took up 3.5GB on it's own. Missing LTE even further drives the nail down.
Unfortunately, most people outside of hardware geeks don't know how amazing this beast of a phone is. Then half the one who are hardware gurus are scared because its an LG. I convinced the guy next to me at work to pick up the Sprint version. He absolutely loves it too.
I would use the upgrade that I have on Att.. but the Dev community is very important to have... Only time will tell.. watching with great interest.
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I was microscopically close to pulling the trigger on the SG3 when I decided last minute to get the OG. Never regretted it for a second and I'm still bone stock.
Looking to get this as well It's down to the N4 or this. Really want LTE. Badly. But don't want to get screwed over for dev community, but I highly doubt that will happen. AOSP ROMs are on their way, undoubtedly.
from what i was told with small modifications n4 roms will run just fine on the lgog also. so that opens up way more possibilities if that is true
This is definitely one of the best devices currently since it runs buttery smooth even on ICS. 4.1/2 or CM will make this device unbelievable.
Talked my brother into getting one. He ordered his optimus g today and it was back ordered (The s3 disappeared from amazon for att days ago, probably why.) so im gonna go out on a limb and assume we will get some more people working in here in the near future.
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Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
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Agreed. It's almost like they just took AOSP & tweaked it juuuuuust a little bit. I actually like it.
Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
argolfermd said:
Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Bestbuy will price match Amazon. You should check them out. I got mine on Saturday at BB and they had plenty of stock.
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S4 vs The One: My Journey

Hello All,
Wanted to post about the process I went through that eventually landed me on The One. I read everything I could for the last three months about the two phones and wound up more confused then decided on which to upgrade to. I finally decided that I need to S**t or get off the pot, so I went with the S4 because:
1) I read more positive reviews about it's camera then the One's, and for me the smartphone is a Camera that I can make calls on, not the other way around.
2) I had never owned a Samsung phone and I wanted to check it out.
3) I was worried about the lack of updates from HTC when I had the Rezound. Though I am a member of Elevate, updates have been my biggest gripe with HTC and I didn't want to get stuck with another unsupported phone.
4) lack of SD card and removable battery on the One. Not deal breakers, but factors.
So, my wife, son and I got out hiking on Saturday and I took about 60 shots on the S4. They looked great on the phone, but TERRIBLE on the PC. I had hiked in the same park last year about the same time with my son and had taken a lot of the same shots on my Rezound so I found those and compared them...The Rezound shots were much better in many instances. So I decided to take the Rezound and S4 and make the settings the same. I then took about 35 comparison shots. Almost half the time, the Rezound shots were better. That really irritated me so I searched the web for comparison images (S4 & the One) and most of the time they were so close it didn't matter.
I had bought the One through Verizon's Edge program. I know it's not the smartest thing I ever did, but I did it and I'm cool with it. They exchanged the S4 for the One and I feel pretty good about it. If I want I can move up in a year to whatever is the hottest thing at that point. I lost my unlimited, but on my phone only and they gave me 6 gigs for the same cost of my unlimited. I've never gone over six gigs before, and I can tweak my usage a little so I never have to worry about that. Besides, my wife still has her unlimited and I can switch with her if I really miss it.
As soon as I made a call with the One, I knew it was the right choice. I'm glad I tried the S4 but I really didn't like it. It just didn't measure up in so many ways. TouchWiz is so cartoonish, I felt like I should be sitting at the kids table! The screen was awesome! But so is the One's, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything there.
I figured I would share the Experience here in the Rezound forum because it played such a big part in my deciding the S4 wasn't for me!
Peace People!
thanks for your take on the two phones. I am considering the S4 above the One right now coming from a Rezound currently. I would like to know more about pros/cons of both and decide then. Hearing about the picture quality of the S4 might be problematic, but I'd have to see other cases of the same problem to be convinced myself. Have you compared your S4 photos with those of others who have an S4 to see if they have the same problem?
When I was at the Verizon store they had a one and a s4 next to each other so it was easy to compare. I took photos on both and the one looked crisper and clearer. I don't know if its because I am use to sense but it felt smoother than touchwiz. Plus I like the feel of the one in my hand. I missed how the original moto droid felt in my hand from its all metal body. The s4 just didn't wow me and disappointed me in others. I am sure its a good phone but not for me. If you think HTC is weak in updates for their phone Samsung is far worse. Droid charge got like a few updates and that's it. Where as the thunderbolt went from froyo to GB to ICS. Sure it took awhile to get to ICS but at least it did get it. Sammy seems to just drop all support and just build a new phone knowing people will do the iphone effect of selling their old device for the new one.
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Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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Sheldor1967 said:
Yeah, I love the way it feels too! I really didn't want to buy the S4 based on the in store comparison, but I was trusting reviews because I shoot a lot of nature and I couldn't simulate that in store. After using the One for a week, it is every bit as good as the S4 Camera wise and blows it away in almost every other respect... So glad I switched!
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If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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Khayos said:
If you're into shooting nature or anything that moves really, play with Zoe on your one, you'll probably end up loving it.
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I've dabbled some with it...Need to do more...Fun feature, especially for my son!
Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Thanks for the review, there's one thing holding up getting the One for me though, no unlockable bootloader.
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Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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Uzephi said:
Read around the Verizon HTC one forum, you will see someone found a way to S-Off. Better than bootloader unlock.
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I have, it requires a java card. It's either shell out the money for one or pay/beg/get a favor from someone who has one.
I decided that I love the phone even if it is never rooted, but I trust it will be... These guys are good!
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I'm actually probably going with the S3 or S4. HTC One seems to be harder to find deals for with my credit. S3's are only $100 now, so this college student may snap at that.
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And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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Sheldor1967 said:
And my One is now S-off! So glad I went this way... But the truth is that I am still thrilled with the stock experience. I have roms waiting to be flashed, but I just don't want to!
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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What about the stock experience thrills you compared to original android?
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The simplest answer is that it works so well...It's lightning quick already, so I don't need mods to eliminate lag. Everything does what is supposed to.
But the truth about flashing other Roms is that there is almost always some buggy element. I have only run a handful in three years that didn't. I rooted both my Incredible and Rezound because there were features out there that I couldn't get on those phones.I have everything I could want on the Stock One.
If I had a Nexus device, I would enjoy that experience, but I also would miss the TV app in Sense 5 and believe it or not, I am having a blast with Zoe and some of the other features of the Sense 5 Camera. It would require too many trade offs to go to Stock Android.
Having said that, I am a flashaholic, and I have flashed one Rom since the previous post. Frankly, battery wasn't as good, and the 4g signal wasn't consistent. And that was a Rom that was very close to Stock. I know I could reflash and do other things that might fix it, or I could just go back to Stock, which I did... I'll flash other Roms, my curiosity is too strong not to, but it's great to know that Stock is so rock solid to come back to!
How's the camera compared to rezound? Also how is the scrolling lag compared to the iPhone?
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Lag? I know naught of you speak? Seriously, I don't have an iPhone so I can't compare it, but this thing blows my old Rezound out of the water, and it is every bit as fast as the S4 was.
As for the Camera, I love it. It does some things better then the Rezound (low light) and I have been able to crop with no problems. There's a learning curve but it didn't take long. I even have that purplish tint at times, but changing the iso usually makes it go away...
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