This forum is filled with what seems like educated guesses and half confident answers. I've heard just locked, and signed/encrypted to just signed. The question all of us basically want to know is whats the status of the bootloader compared to that of the Sensation, which from my understanding is locked/signed and therefore near impossible to crack. I dont think encryption was ever the fear.
Hope somebody can clear this up for me and all of XDA.
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It's not the locked/signed boot loader that would stop devs from achieving it, its when there Encrypted, which many believe it is and encryption is what would stop development. With as much guessing as there's been, i don't think anyone at this point actually knows. we'll find out as we get closer to launch and all the test units go out or till its actual release.
Uplinked through my mind
Go into the "evo 3d locked bootloader " thread and read the 15th comment, OMJ posted a great interview.
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you sure its the 15th post haha. I didn't see what you were referring to.
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Over in the Evo board there is a thread by Virus with the leaked rom. Someone looked and said the bootloader is locked but not encrypted.
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I understand that much, all android bootloaders are technically locked. But if it's signed then the process of unlocking it is very difficult. I'm just wondering if its both signed and locked in the same locked down way that the sensation is, or if it is just locked as the EVO was before it.
If someone could clear up how bootloader locking work, that would also help.
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my bad, i forgot i had clicked a link in the thread i said before look in the "What is sprints stance on locked bootloaders" thread.
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Over in the Evo board there is a thread by Virus with the leaked rom. Someone looked and said the bootloader is locked but not encrypted.
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The leak thread stated locked and signed, not encrypted
Did the evo have a signed bl?
Tapa tapa tapa
the evo had a locked bootloader/nand with signed updates but the partitions themselves weren't signed.
and in this case they are? So theres really no relief from HTC. They did the same thing they did with all the other phones...
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and in this case they are? So theres really no relief from HTC. They did the same thing they did with all the other phones...
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no? the other phones where encrypted
ckoadiyn said:
no? the other phones where encrypted
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Right for the most part I've gone through dumps and ruu for a lot of HTC divices and for the most part biggest difference I saw was some of the sensation files are different
But encrypted a signed bl or certs they all are atrix is deff encrypted
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I don't think you will get a solid answer until people start getting their hands on the device. This thread was kind of pointless to start when there are other threads going on about the same issue
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I mean xtc clip would most likely work I believe it did for inc s.
Also speaking to the dude from there says sensation is next Idk time will tell but if inc s was able to s off Idk why the sensation can't or 3d being there the same thing minus 3d and carrier differnce
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I don't think you will get a solid answer until people start getting their hands on the device. This thread was kind of pointless to start when there are other threads going on about the same issue
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that's not entirely true considering the sensation forums have a pretty clear idea what's going on in there. just don't know what they can do with it yet. and the other threads are the reason for this thread.
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Sensation is locked and I'm 99% sure EVO 3D will be too. But if devs unlock the Sensation, can they use the same method for E3D? Am I thinking right?
*Off-topic: Any news about GSM version?
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
as posted in the EVO4G section today...
Fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!
Well cross EVO 3D off my list.
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Have it people.
http://goo.gl/Ennn0
whoa, great, thx!
Let the cooking of goodies begin. Woohoo!
retail evo 3d? what do you mean by that?
momentandroid said:
retail evo 3d? what do you mean by that?
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Means its the final retail version that's going on sale June 24th.
So anything good inside
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What does the bootloader look like on it? I'm guessing it's locked but I haven't seen anyone say for sure one way or the other.
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What does the bootloader look like on it? I'm guessing it's locked but I haven't seen anyone say for sure one way or the other.
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It is S-On there are a couple pics people have uploaded in the general section somewhere.
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It is S-On there are a couple pics people have uploaded in the general section somewhere.
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It looks like the same hboot as the leaked ruu so I take it the rom is the same too? If not then that means htc probably could have shipped it with an unlocked one but didn't.
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It looks like the same hboot as the leaked ruu so I take it the rom is the same too? If not then that means htc probably could have shipped it with an unlocked one but didn't.
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good point and a very important question!
xHausx said:
What does the bootloader look like on it? I'm guessing it's locked but I haven't seen anyone say for sure one way or the other.
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What happened to the ENG bootloader you guys got in the other dump though????
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What happened to the ENG bootloader you guys got in the other dump though????
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+1 and did the old dump have 1080p recording?
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sgt. slaughter said:
What happened to the ENG bootloader you guys got in the other dump though????
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Can't really do anything with it until the phone comes out.
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8 days and counting, can't wait.
I spent a good 6 hours last night prepping my Evo 4G for trade in, unrooted it and installed the stock 3.70 RUU, which finally gave me the 4.22 OTA update as well. Had the "main too old, update failed" problem for the better part of 5 hours, solved it by re-doing the mtg-eng.img through adb, the 3.70 RUU went on just fine after that.
android 2.3.4 please say yes? lol
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android 2.3.4 please say yes? lol
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2.3.3 in the one I saw.
zeks said:
2.3.3 in the one I saw.
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hmm i was pretty sure evo 3d shipped with android 2.3.4
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hmm i was pretty sure evo 3d shipped with android 2.3.4
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Nah it ships with 2.3.3. Kind of lame, but the big question is the bootloader in the 3vo encrypted.
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Nah it ships with 2.3.3. Kind of lame, but the big question is the bootloader in the 3vo encrypted.
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darn.......it probably is like the htc sensations is but it will be unlocked with an ota or ruu most liekly
True, but it will nice if HTC did not encrypt the bootloader. If the bootloader is encrypted, it all comes down to HTC keeping their word.
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To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
I currently have the energy Rom on my amaze but I have to send it to htc to get a new one but I'm worried that they might not give me a new one since its rooted. Is there any way to unroot?
jsalazarcervantes said:
I currently have the energy Rom on my amaze but I have to send it to htc to get a new one but I'm worried that they might not give me a new one since its rooted. Is there any way to unroot?
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Please try to search a little harder. Check the HTC amaze Android development section
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glacierguy said:
Please try to search a little harder. Check the HTC amaze Android development section
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I looked for it but I couldnt find it. Still can't.
Stickies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335703
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Stickies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335703
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Awesome. Thank you all.
They WILL still be able to see that you unlocked the bootloader, there are 3 statuses that it can have
Locked (stock)
Unlocked
Relocked
Yours will need to be relocked to flash the PH85IMG.zip files, however, it will be obvious to them that you had it unlocked at one point. The big thing missing from the OP is the reason it needs to be sent back. If it's a hardware failure unrelated to you unlocking the bootloader or software changes you've done, you should be fine.
I have known people to send back rooted phones and been fine and got a replacement. Their theory was if no water/hardware damage, then why the hub-hub. I personally wouldn't try that myself, but some people test the waters. Thus far it had been fine.
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I have known people to send back rooted phones and been fine and got a replacement. Their theory was if no water/hardware damage, then why the hub-hub. I personally wouldn't try that myself, but some people test the waters. Thus far it had been fine.
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i guess ill try it and see what happens. hopefully they wont notice. thank man.
i was just thinking now that we just got a new OTA does that mean we have to wait even longer for htc to release the source??? if so that f ing crazy!!!!!!!!! if we have to wait 90 more days.. that aint even rite :crying:
Idk probably. It's bs how the one x got source within a few days and we are getting the shaft
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The international one x source was released. It comes fully unlocked and ready for any gsm carrier so of course they just released code, not a buggy for them. The u.s. evita one x and Can. Rogers one x still have NOT had their source released yet so we're all in the same boat. It's crap but still within their legal limits. Oh, and NO A OTA DOESN'T GIVE THEM A MAGIC RESET COUNTER.
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The international one x source was released. It comes fully unlocked and ready for any gsm carrier so of course they just released code, not a buggy for them. The u.s. evita one x and Can. Rogers one x still have NOT had their source released yet so we're all in the same boat. It's crap but still within their legal limits. Oh, and NO A OTA DOESN'T GIVE THEM A MAGIC RESET COUNTER.
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Actually because the ota contained a new kernel, if said kernel is different, I believe they do get a reset... That's how it worked for the EVO shift at least...
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18th.abn said:
It's crap but still within their legal limits.
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The GPL doesn't specify a time frame. It just says that source must be available upon request. Which means they should release it right away. The reason they get away with it is because the what every other hardware dev does it.
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The GPL doesn't specify a time frame. It just says that source must be available upon request.
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Just contacted them stating this. Hopefully we get something soon.
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Actually because the ota contained a new kernel, if said kernel is different, I believe they do get a reset... That's how it worked for the EVO shift at least...
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They would still be required to release original source since ota is not mandatory right? I'm not sure but that sure would be low to withhold longer.
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They would still be required to release original source since ota is not mandatory right? I'm not sure but that sure would be low to withhold longer.
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Yes, the original source is "on the clock"... I'm assuming they made more than a couple changes in the source, as the version number changed, so that starts a new "clock" for that kernel version... HTC is known for being slow on kernel source releases for North American carriers, so we shall see... I'm not holding my breath...
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There's no clock. There's no 90 days. Why do people continue to ignore this fact and talk about an imaginary time frame that HTC made up?
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There's no clock. There's no 90 days. Why do people continue to ignore this fact and talk about an imaginary time frame that HTC made up?
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That's because even thou it is made up that's the excuse HTC will give us to hold off on releasing source...
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Isn't this it?
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Granted, it's from the original 1.13 ROM, but it's source nonetheless.
forget eeet
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Isn't this it?
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Granted, it's from the original 1.13 ROM, but it's source nonetheless.
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This literally just dropped within the last 2 hours.
But its a good start, I doubt there where that many changes from ship rom to OTA.
Weird scrolling on my screen
Ok, I'm rooted w/ s-on. I flashed the latest OTA and I updated my radios. Now I have this weird list scrolling on the top right hand corner of my screen. It looks like it's scrolling through my sdcard folders and doesn't affect the use of the phone... it's just annoying
This happen to anyone?
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That's because even thou it is made up that's the excuse HTC will give us to hold off on releasing source...
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The source has been released
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There is a link on androidpolice saying kit Kat ota for developer edition and unlocked is out now
Looks like sense version now has kit Kat so now it's a matter of time before the tmobile version gets it?
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End of January
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Where'd ya get that info?
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Can't post links but it's all over Google and I found it on androidpolice
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If you are following USA HTC president on Twitter he has said release dates for the HTC one
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I do not use Twitter however the turn around time is amazing
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Right on- Hopefully T-Mobile will have their Kit Kat roll-out sometime soon.
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Wow, can't believe how much HTC has improved. Samsung is sooo slow lately they barely mention kit kat and give us 4.3 which att still hasn't given us officially. Really thinking of getting a one if I wasnt so addicted to the spen
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Best phone I've ever had. Until I went to the future and bought this sweet Two.
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Its live And I'm on T-Mobile not unlocked or dev edition so yeah
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No it's not live yours is a fluke you even said yourself that you can not update it
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Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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No maybe because T-Mobile doesn't even have it yet, because it's still in testing, noob! You honestly have no clue what you are talking about, but go ask people like Mike1986 or or developers like that and tell them mugetsu666 told you to ask. Or you could ask me as I am a developer or even behold_this or toby as we're all developers for this device in this forum and will tell you that you are Very wrong! If it was out there for T-Mobile, I promise you either myself or one of the other named developers would have roms up. So stop acting like you know something and then calling others noobs, because they called you on it.
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No maybe because T-Mobile doesn't even have it yet, because it's still in testing, noob! You honestly have no clue what you are talking about, but go ask people like Mike1986 or or developers like that and tell them mugetsu666 told you to ask. Or you could ask me as I am a developer or even behold_this or toby as we're all developers for this device in this forum and will tell you that you are Very wrong! If it was out there for T-Mobile, I promise you either myself or one of the other named developers would have roms up. So stop acting like you know something and then calling others noobs, because they called you on it.
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Maybe cuz I really don't have a dev edition phone what a noob get over yourself
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Very simple to be honest I got a tmobile non dev phone just rooted n the update is coming up I even took a screenshot to prove it but not enough for u guys n I flash a stock 4.3 from here n it doesn't say anything bout it bn dev or unlocked so I thought it be a good idea to say something I'm not s off or anything so I guess I'm just wrong then it's like getting accused of murder with evidence that it wasn't me with u guys GEES
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Very simple to be honest I got a tmobile non dev phone just rooted n the update is coming up I even took a screenshot to prove it but not enough for u guys n I flash a stock 4.3 from here n it doesn't say anything bout it bn dev or unlocked so I thought it be a good idea to say something I'm not s off or anything so I guess I'm just wrong then it's like getting accused of murder with evidence that it wasn't me with u guys GEES
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Your "evidence" is the exact thing that proves that you are mistaken. T-Mobile ROMs are all numbered x.xx.531.x (ie 3.24.531.3), while HTC developer ROMs are all x.xx.1540.x (ie 4.06.1540.2).
I will explain this further to you so you don't make this mistake again, using the 4.06.1540.2 rom as an example. The version number breaks down as follows:
4.xx.xxxx.x = fourth Android base for device, in this case KitKat 4.4 (4.1.2, 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4)
x.06.xxxx.x = Rom build
x.xx.1540.x = developer edition device
x.xx.xxx.2 = build reversion number
So, now, as you can see, it really doesn't matter what you THINK, you were in fact mistaken when you claimed the T-mobile variant of the ROM was available . It would have been big of you to just admit that you were mistaken and move on instead of posting here (and other threads) over and over to try and convince the rest of us you're right and in the process insulting others and calling them noobs.
Most of us know the real deal. To say your phone is untouched is just not accurate. You would not have received the OTA without modifying the device in some way. Now I'm not going to get into a debate with you about what you did or didn't do, though I'm sure you'll post back saying once again you've done nothing, the fact is your evidence is against you.
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Your "evidence" is the exact thing that proves that you are mistaken. T-Mobile ROMs are all numbered x.xx.531.x (ie 3.24.531.3), while HTC developer ROMs are all x.xx.1540.x (ie 4.06.1540.2).
I will explain this further to you so you don't make this mistake again, using the 4.06.1540.2 rom as an example. The version number breaks down as follows:
4.xx.xxxx.x equals android 4.4
x.06.xxxx.x equals Rom build
x.xx.1540.x equals developer edition device
x.xx.xxx.3 equals build reversion number
So, now, as you can see, it really doesn't matter what you THINK, you were in fact mistaken when you claimed the T-mobile variant of the ROM was available . It would have been big of you to just admit that you were mistaken and move on instead of posting here (and other threads) over and over to try and convince the rest of us you're right and in the process insulting others and calling them noobs.
Most of us know the real deal. To say your phone is untouched is just not accurate. You would not have received the OTA without modifying the device in some way. Now I'm not going to get into a debate with you about what you did or didn't do, though I'm sure you'll post back saying once again you've done nothing, the fact is your evidence is against you.
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I don't think it could've been put any butter by HTC or T-Mobile!
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mugetsu666 said:
I don't think it could've been put any butter by HTC or T-Mobile!
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I didn't say untouch I know better than that I just don't know what ruu I have that the update shows up which clearly is dev or unlocked but the real question was y it's not letting install if it coming up on my phone
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invisiblefire101 said:
I didn't say untouch I know better than that I just don't know what ruu I have that the update shows up which clearly is dev or unlocked but the real question was y it's not letting install if it coming up on my phone
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You did to say untouched. You said ur not unlocked or on dev edition, that you were stock T-Mobile. So now you don't know what ruu you've run on ur phone which means you're at least unlocked and most possible S-off. I think it's best if you just stop now before other people really tell how You have No clue what you're doing or what you're talking about!
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By far. best thread i have read on XDA lol. Thanks you for the great read behold_this, mugetsu666 and of course invisiblefire101.
anyway~ anyone know if the REAL....OTA will be just 4.4 or 4.4.x?