Attention htc Flyer does not telephone voice call, if someone makes patch I sponsor 30 euro thank's
I'm ready to donate also.....but usually, the steps are:
1. root access
2. custom recovery
3. custom rom
4.............
am I right?
do u mean u try doing regular voice calls and it doesn't work????
this is serious, coz i'm thinking of switching from samsung galaxy tab to the flyer
plz help
well, yeah, if you bought a wifi only version, what exactly did you think was going to happen?
n7of9 said:
well, yeah, if you bought a wifi only version, what exactly did you think was going to happen?
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ofcourse, what about the 3g version, do u have any idea if it could make gsm calls?
of course it can make calls...just put a sim card in it
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
HSPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
n7of9 said:
of course it can make calls...just put a sim card in it
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
HSPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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yeah sure i read that, but could that be only for using it for data (mobile internet) through the network, coz i read some reviews saying it only supports voip
sorry for bothering, but making sure b4 buying it
Just tried to install a dialer on my Flyer. I am not able to install Dialer One. It is obviously set to be not compatible.
I will try copying the APK from my phone when I get some time and see if it installs.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_flyer-3829.php
Read the 1st line in the specs!
I think the devs should take action fast 4 this issue!!
3g version
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well, yeah, if you bought a wifi only version, what exactly did you think was going to happen?
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I'Have 3G version, sms, mms, mail, internet with sim traffic ok, but NOT VOICE CALL repeat NOT PHONES, i know ANDROID wery well ( not english ) i'have HTC desire hd , touch pro 2 , diamond, i know HTC prpduct, i'm shure the FLYER 3G NOT PHONES, NOT VOICE CALL.
SPARKPROGETTAZIONE said:
I'Have 3G version, sms, mms, mail, internet with sim traffic ok, but NOT VOICE CALL repeat NOT PHONES, i know ANDROID wery well ( not english ) i'have HTC desire hd , touch pro 2 , diamond, i know HTC prpduct, i'm shure the FLYER 3G NOT PHONES, NOT VOICE CALL.
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I don't have the Flyer yet, but was considering it as my next device.
But now that you are reporting no GSM phone feature, I am shocked !
Most all major reviews that gave specs said it had quad band GSM !
I am
Well, I am defintely not getting this device !
globalgpj said:
I don't have the Flyer yet, but was considering it as my next device.
But now that you are reporting no GSM phone feature, I am shocked !
Most all major reviews that gave specs said it had quad band GSM !
I am
Well, I am defintely not getting this device !
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Not flaming or anything like that, just curious. Why would you want your tablet to be a phone too?
The Jones said:
Not flaming or anything like that, just curious. Why would you want your tablet to be a phone too?
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As someone who has an original 7" Galaxy Tab, I can say that whilst I don't use the voice calls often, I've definitely found it very useful from time to time. I don't see why we should put up with what is essentially an artificial restriction.
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Dave
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Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center.
With regards to your reply,
Kindly note that unfortuntly the HTC FLYER does not support GSM services .
For more support information, you can contact us by phone: +20-238-272-820
http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx or you can go to:
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sevoflurane said:
For more support information, you can contact us by phone: +20-238-272-820
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That's awesome! Contact us by phone (but not on your expensive new device)...
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sturmavik said:
That's awesome! Contact us by phone (but not on your expensive new device)...
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LOL!!!!!
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Not flaming or anything like that, just curious. Why would you want your tablet to be a phone too?
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Why people keep asking these things is really something
there's a thread that people even willing to pay for US galaxy tab to be able to call with that thing
there's some people who prefer all in one device instead of bringing 1 tablet and 1 phone separately, especially with bluetooth device so common now
I'm thinking of changing my tab to flyer when i learned that flyer can make calls, but after hearing this, i'm glad i bought my tab much earlier ^^
i have my galaxy tab, and as long as HTC wont make calls am sticking to my galaxy tab, i don't know if HTC think they can go head to head with ipad and think they will have the upper hand, am HTC loyal but of course if ipad and flyer are booth useless "feature wise" then i will go to ipad
I found this thread to be very amusing. The Flyer is a Tablet, if you want to make calles then use your phone. To my knowledge none of the tablets that are even equipped with cellular data make phone calls. Not even the ipad makes phone calls.
The old HTC Advantage which is more a netbook did make phone calls. However you had to use a headset
jadesse said:
I found this thread to be very amusing. The Flyer is a Tablet, if you want to make calles then use your phone. To my knowledge none of the tablets that are even equipped with cellular data make phone calls. Not even the ipad makes phone calls.
The old HTC Advantage which is more a netbook did make phone calls. However you had to use a headset
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Yes, I have to agree here. I don't need my tablet to be a phone. In a pinch, I can make a call via Skype. A tablet will never make me shed the convenience of a smartphone.
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As some of you may recall the HTC Shift shipped with quad GSM bands, but had no GSM voice call functions. As I recall, the devs were finally able to turn on GSM voice functions on the Shift. Do you think that the devs can also enable the Flyer to use GSM Voice functionality?
Flyer has already active voice and video call...it works like samsung tab,go to youtube or telefonino.net and you will see that they make a phone call with it.
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mwakious said:
Flyer has already active voice and video call...it works like samsung tab,go to youtube or telefonino.net and you will see that they make a phone call with it.
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From what I understand, the only voice and video calls on the Flyer that are presently supported are VoIP calls. The Flyer manual only mentions VoIP calls, but not video or voice calls using GSM. Do you have a link to a video showing a voice call using the GSM bands?
Thanks for your answer.
Edit: Rechecked the manual, and it does not even specifically mention VoIP calls, but for sure through Skype that is possible. Before the worldwide HTC site showed video calls, but I assume it was a Skype call. Amost all sites still say that the HTC Flyer does not have GSM call functionality. Does anyone have a Flyer to test this out?
unfortunately you're right...... I was searching more than 4 hours to find out if the voice call is available out from the box, but it doesn't. although in user manual it doesn't specify about this, i think it will be possible by root access and custom rom (with our dev support). all we have to do, is to wait until is out from the market. as I understand the euro version is coming out today...... I hope, will see some review very soon!
I am ready for donation to the one which will make this happening!!!!
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unfortunately you're right...... I was searching more than 4 hours to find out if the voice call is available out from the box, but it doesn't. although in user manual it doesn't specify about this, i think it will be possible by root access and custom rom (with our dev support). all we have to do, is to wait until is out from the market. as I understand the euro version is coming out today...... I hope, will see some review very soon!
I am ready for donation to the one which will make this happening!!!!
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Thanks for the confirmation. Hopefully the devs will be able to enable the GSM voice functions, since the GSM bands are available, except for the wifi version of the Flyer.
The Flyer went on the market here in Taiwan a few days ago, but so far I have not been able to see one, as it is only on the Internet and not in shops so far.
I too would do what I can to help to enable the function.
I saw an HTC Flyer in a store window this evening, but did not have time to stop in and make inquiries whether it was the GSM/3G data or wifi model, but from what I could see it is a beautiful piece of kit. I liked the looks of it better than the Samsung Tab.
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I saw an HTC Flyer in a store window this evening, but did not have time to stop in and make inquiries whether it was the GSM/3G data or wifi model, but from what I could see it is a beautiful piece of kit. I liked the looks of it better than the Samsung Tab.
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wow.....that's good news!!! thanks a lot for information!
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wow.....that's good news!!! thanks a lot for information!
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When I get a chance and am back in the area, I will check it out and find out about a few of the details, and then let you know what I discover.
rlydiard said:
When I get a chance and am back in the area, I will check it out and find out about a few of the details, and then let you know what I discover.
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Got one today, no gsm call feature out of the box. ;-(
Sms/mms works like a charm .
Please help
aefelix said:
Got one today, no gsm call feature out of the box. ;-(
Sms/mms works like a charm .
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does that mean it doesn't make any gsm voice calls out of the box???? what a major disappointment
i have a samsung galaxy tab and was seriously thinking of switching to the flyer!!
did u try installing any phone dialer from the market? like "Go contacts" or "touchpal dialer" ????
plz help i really want the flyer but i wanna know if the gsm call is working!!!
aefelix said:
Got one today, no gsm call feature out of the box. ;-(
Sms/mms works like a charm .
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How about the android integrated SIP, is that available in the settings?
My Flyer will arrive before the end of the month!
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HTC Flyer 32G 3G
HTC Flyer Applications include Call.
I have not tested.
Please continue this discussion in THIS thread.
Thanks
Now that we have s-off and root, is a solution yet to get the phone and dialer to work on the View?
I'll look into it. Have you tried clubtech's patch?
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No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
ElAguila said:
No I haven't tried it. I will try it tomorrow before I flash my rom.
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Let us know if you get it running. I'm interested in this too. Thanks.
It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
Farsquidge said:
It may turn out that you will not be able to use your present SIM card as with some dongles, the carrier may only allow data (no voice calls) through it. Test the SIM in a standard phone for calls.
It'll be interesting to see if another carrier's SIM works in it also.
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There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
Yes the sprint phones do not use a sim card. I added the lines to my build.prop file that are listed in the clubtech hack. Although the line
ro.phone.function=1
Was already there. I was able to place a call. The person could hear me and I could hear them although the volume was kind of low. I have not tested it with a bluetooth headset yet. Also keep in mind that I don't know but I believe any calls you make will count as data on your tablet data plan.
My concern was with upsetting sprint... you have your view on a regular view plan and not a phone plan right?
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T120ted said:
There is no sim in the view. I'm not aware of any sprint device with a sim card.
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Ah, OK, not actually seen one physically.
It must be a surface mount pre-programmed version locked to Sprint.. I can foresee difficulty in getting the phone to work then if it is set to data only on the network.
Edit: Just seen his success...
I'll be following this thread closely as I am on the fence for picking up a Sprint View. If phone calls are somehow enabled on this device then I will most likely pick one up.
As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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As far as upsetting Sprint, that is the question mark. As far as I know they do not offer phone plans for the view, only data plans.
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You will probably find calls suddenly being blocked at the network then once they find out users are able to make them. They will not give anything for free!
If you want to use the view to regularly make calls, I would advice looking for the thread that tells you how to do this using a market app groove ip and gtalk and gvoice. That is your best bet. While using the view as a phone is possible, DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. This means if you use it and sprint blocks your account don't blame xda nor the members here.
I'm just interested in getting rid of groove ip. I would rather have a phone function than another app running in the background. I actually went from a phone plan to straight tablet plan with groove ip. I only need phone functionality incase the school needs to call me about my kids.
With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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With all of the files on the the tablet but hidden and the fact that the only thing needed to enable the phone was a couple of lines in the build.prop makes me wonder if maybe sprint had looked at possible phone plans. Then either decided against or possible a future offering.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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This is what I thought, too. I think they left it out until they could come up with a good game plan for it. It's inevitable that tablets will be phones as well. The asus memo is going to help usher it in. I'm just not an att fan and that's more than likely where that one is going to hit.
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I don't know, I think there is more to it than that, or HTC would have enabled phone calls on the WWE Flyer for all others to use.
I still think HTC had some problem gaining approval with this design from Google for GB and had to leave out the phone function.
Why else disable fitted hardware when it would be a bigger selling point if working? It makes no sense!
For the time being I'm using nettalk. I had to install it on my evo first then copy and send the apk to my view via dropbox. Once it was installed I was able to make "data" calls with my view with no bt headset...mic and speakers worked just fine. This was done before clubtech posted his patch.
So has anyone been able to get the phone function working with clubtech's work around?
I've done exactly what he advised, added those lines to my build.prop and even added unlimited mobile to mobile minutes to my tablet plan (yes it exists, I work at a Sprint store and added it myself) but I'm not able to dial out or receive incoming. The phone service doesn't run, ever, even when trying dial out a call.
I know the GVoice method works but I'd really like to be able to open this up without having to use extra apps.
yes theres a way. I did that on my HTC FLYER 3G. I created a full detailed document on how to do that on HTC FLYER but I used some sources on xda developer forum in order to do that. Here is the document I created, the sources with links are available at the very end of the pdf file. (one of the sources is for evo view)
http://bit.ly/r6x82t
can i use an unlocked at&t atrix in the philippines?
and can it be upgraded to GB in the philippines?
im new here.. tnx..
Yes, it will makes calls.
No, 3G will not work. Edge however, should.
Yes, you will be able to update it manually using motorola's update guide.
mvolkhart said:
Yes, it will makes calls.
No, 3G will not work. Edge however, should.
Yes, you will be able to update it manually using motorola's update guide.
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thanks man! appreciate it.. i know that the atrix have quadband for gsm which supports 900/1800 here in the phils and for the 3G, the band here is 2100, why it wont work? ... and other than updating manually, can i update it via wi-fi?
The 2100 band is the problem. AT&T Atrix doesn't support that band.
I don't think the OTA works using wifi but you can download the stock update using wifi and apply it.
CORRECTION: it does support the 2100 3G frequency. I didn't understand the whole WCDMA vs GSM thing correctly
i have read some old reviews when it is still in Froyo and there are a lot of complaints about the laggy pinch to zoom of Atrix.. how is the pinch to zoom of pictures in Atrix GB?
I have not experienced any problems. The zoom is very responsive
well i just hope someone who bought an unlocked at&t Atrix from the US and used it here in the Philippines would post their experience about the phone. i have read from different sites and forums that they have complaints about Atrix connectivity like wi-fi and bluetooth in different countries.
it's just too bad only few people here in the Philippines use Atrix.
I used my phone in the philippines. I was able to get internet on it. Not sure it was 3g but it was the h+ symbol on both smart and globe. I went to their offices to help set it up. Just remember, most places won't have 3g yet especially those place that don't support smartbro or globe broadband which uses the 3g signal I believe. Just ask for help there.
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pilboyz said:
i have read from different sites and forums that they have complaints about Atrix connectivity like wi-fi and bluetooth in different countries.
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Wi-Fi and Bluetooth use the same standards around the world. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those complaints.
The issue with GSM coverage is that the phone must support the frequency bands for the local carrier's equipment, and the carrier must support the specific GSM standards (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSUPA, LTE, etc.) that the phone is capable of. The Atrix 4G does indeed support 2100 MHz but as other folks have noted in this thread, the main carriers in the Phils (Smart and Globe) don't support HSPA+.
https://developer.motorola.com/products/atrix-mb860/
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_Deployed_HSUPA_networks
im quite confused about that 3G thing.. your post was right.. Philippines do not belong to the list of HSUPA networks.. but when I viewed the list of HSDPA networks, Philippines was there.. (i could not share the link for the meantime, 3 more posts needed).. this got me really confused.. im afraid i cannot use internet services by ISP.. maybe wi-fi only..
thank you guys for helping.. i really appreciate it.
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I used my phone in the philippines. I was able to get internet on it. Not sure it was 3g but it was the h+ symbol on both smart and globe. I went to their offices to help set it up. Just remember, most places won't have 3g yet especially those place that don't support smartbro or globe broadband which uses the 3g signal I believe. Just ask for help there.
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thanks man.. i felt a little relieved..
can i ask something? after the GB update, i have read that it does not offer settings in the SMS regarding its delivery reports? and when u send messages, does it have sent items?
im sorry for such inquisitions and being a noob..
i just want to know more about this phone before buying so that i wont have regrets..
thanks again..
pilboyz said:
your post was right.. Philippines do not belong to the list of HSUPA networks.. but when I viewed the list of HSDPA networks, Philippines was there.. (i could not share the link for the meantime, 3 more posts needed)
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I'd be interested to see your link, but if it came from the same site as the one where folks think that wi-fi and BT won't work in the Phils. then again, I wouldn't put much stock in that claim. HSPA upgrades aren't cheap and with 1 Peso per minute calling plans I don't think the carriers there have much of an upgrade budget. (My wife is a Filipina and has had GSM phones here in the states ever since AT&T has been selling them.)
pilboyz said:
after the GB update, i have read that it does not offer settings in the SMS regarding its delivery reports? and when u send messages, does it have sent items?
im sorry for such inquisitions and being a noob..
i just want to know more about this phone before buying so that i wont have regrets..
thanks again..
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No problem with the questions.
I don't recall if my Atrix had an option for SMS delivery reports prior to me applying the OTA update to GB. I don't see that option now, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. In any event that sounds like a feature of the Android OS (if it actually exists). So if it's lacking (or present ) on other Android phones then I would expect the same for the Atrix.
thanks andy for the informative replies. Im quite relieved now after i have read the previous post by mamoranto.
because i have have had 5 GSM phones from the states which came from different carriers and i have no idea on their specific details (because mostly are gifts), out of the 5 phones only 2 phones are used for "all around, daily purposes" because here in the philippines, texting is the number purpose of a phone. does the Atrix have sent items/messages stored after you send an sms?
sorry for my noobish questions.
AndyPhreak said:
HSPA upgrades aren't cheap and with 1 Peso per minute calling plans I don't think the carriers there have much of an upgrade budget. (My wife is a Filipina and has had GSM phones here in the states ever since AT&T has been selling them.)
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Well I stand corrected.
The "Globe Telecom" page on Wikipedia claims both 3G and HSDPA support on their networks. Apparently they've just begun rolling out WiMAX in Metro Manila and points south as well. This page reads like marketing copy, so I assume this info comes straight from Globe.
Dang...wish I was in the Philippines again!
oooppss sorry for the previous post... it was answered.
pilboyz said:
because i have have had 5 GSM phones from the states which came from different carriers and i have no idea on their specific details (because mostly are gifts), out of the 5 phones only 2 phones are used for "all around, daily purposes" because here in the philippines, texting is the number purpose of a phone. does the Atrix have sent items/messages stored after you send an sms?
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I think *every* phone in the Phils originally came from the states, LOL. Or at least that's the way with my wife's family. My sis-in-law just got my daughter's barely-used iPhone 3Gs, and my niece there just got my wife's BlackBerry Curve (wife and daughter had to get new iPhone 4).
Are you gonna buy this Atrix new there? You must be rich...
P.S. The Atrix does keep copies of sent and received SMS messages. It shows them in threads/conversations like iPhone, or Chikka.
It uses the Text Messaging app which I think is part of the Android OS. Motorola also throws in their own messaging widget if you want you want to use that.
My dinner break is over and I need to quit this thread for now...
Mabuhay!
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
Tmobile Flyer?
sbrownla said:
I've read the phone dialer threads and all of that wonderful stuff, but what I'm trying to figure out is what capabilities, if any, the 3G Flyer (P510e) will have out of the box using a T-Mobile USA SIM card with a regular monthly phone and "unlimited" data plan on it.
Has anyone tried it? If so, what were you able to do? Access data? SIM card was rejected?
If I missed that thread, I apologize, but I can't seem to be able to find any info anywhere.
Thanks.
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Im also interested in this, has any one seen this or using.. with contract or non contract (phone)?
The HTC Flyer T-Mobile is truly one of a kind
This unique tablet is only 7″ wide, but it comes preloaded with Android 2.3,
HTC Sense that has been optimized for your tablet, and a 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor.
The HTC Flyer also features a 5 MP camera on the back and a front-facing camera for video chatting! This tablet also comes with HTC Scribe Technology, which is something brand new. You can purchase the HTC Scribe digital pen accessory for an additional fee, and be able to take notes that sync with a recording, highlight an important passage, doodle on a picture or even create your own picture! The HTC Flyer can give you a truly unique tablet experience.
HTC Flyer (T-Mobile)
•1.5GHz Qualcomm Processor
•Android 2.3 Operating System (Gingerbread)
•7″ Touchscreen that takes input from fingers & optional digital pen
•16 GB Internal Memory, Card Slot for up to 32 GB
•Rear 5MP Camera and 1.3MP Front Camera
•DLNA Capabilities
•Bluetooth 3.0 with A2DP
•SRS WOW HD™ surround sound delivers impressive audio
I just wanted to bump this thread because I am also looking for a answer to these questions.
I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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I have this exact setup; T-Mobile USA SIM in a 3g Flyer. I have the voice disabled on the SIM, but for data purposes, the SIM connected to the network perfectly. Got 4g speeds in Chicago and the burbs. The phone app comes up and works, but because I disabled the voice on the SIM, the network gives me an appropriate error when I try to dial. When I go international, I plan to get an unlocked SIM w/data and a local number, and use the Flyer w/BT as my main phone. Will also prevent massive roaming charges and should allow my Google Voice to work as well.
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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Since you are getting 4g speeds, I'm assuming that you have the T-mobile USA branded flyer?
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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That is incorrect; I got my flyer off eBay and it's from overseas (probably Singapore, as that's where the seller lives). I determined 4g access via Speedtests app. It might well be the same unit at what T-Mobile sells, but it's not T-Mob branded.
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Thanks for the clarification. I ordered a US tmobile branded flyer from ebay for $350 nd I was hoping to use it as a phone and for data. Since it's similar to the one you have, I'm hoping the roms are the same for it.
There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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There's a process here to identify the RUU you'll need for the Flyer you'll receive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18508220&postcount=2
Though one of the big uploader sources was shut down earlier today, don't remember which one but the RUU repository might have been there.
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Thanks. I'm gonna try it out today and cross my fingers that I can get it to work.
Well dam I'm sorry for wasting your time. Despite winning a 4g flyer on ebay, a wifi flyer arrived in the mail! I have already tried contacting the seller on friday and he still hasn't responded to me. I guess I have to go down the arbritration route with ebay and in the end, I won't have a 4g flyer. Oh well, maybe it wasn't meant to be but thanks for all the info!
Well that sucks! I'm getting accustomed to having my Flyer with me, and the 3g/4g is a godsend when I'm in a hotel with lousy wifi coverage. I'm still looking for a good Honeycomb GSM phone call solution, but so far no decent hacks yet that work. If ICS ships within Q1, that may solve my problem.
Good luck with the arbitration...
Well I finally got in touch with the seller and I got my money back. There is a seller on amazon called "Samy's Savings" who is selling the 3g flyer for only $399. I placed an order and have my fingers crossed about getting the right one this time. I have a question for you though.....What data plan are you using with T-mobile? I was thinking about using the flyer as an phone since I already have data on my main phone. As I've read more on the forum, it seems that the best way to use the flyer as a phone is to either use a bluetooth headset or a wired headset. If this is the case, I will probably just use the flyer as data only. Also, have you tried using the flyer as a portable hotspot? I'm curious to know how it performs this function if at all. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and have a great day!
Any updates with your Flyer 3g or tmo branded flyer 4g?
Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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Just got a T-mobile branded HTC Flyer 3G, trying to pop in a T-mobile sim card from one of the lines on my family plan that has data but all it's doing when I try to open a webpage is load up the mytmobile website. Is this not possible? Do I have to get a seperate data plan that's tablet specific?
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see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
scotty1223 said:
see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917582
i believe we may have screwed ourselves by getting t mobile branded units. i cannot get data to work with mine,either with my phone sim. i did order another sim i plan to activate with the $3/day prepay and see if that works.
otherwise,yes,you need one of their "broadband" internet plans that does not have voice.i.e.,will not work in phones.
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Bump - Has anyone figured this out yet or is there still no way to get the t-mobile htc flyer to work with voice,mms & data?
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
lilcapone said:
Has anyone tried using straight talk or at&t sim?
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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AT&T doesn't support voice and SMS services on tablets, I can tell you that much (although T-mobile does, in theory).
Sorry I can't answer your other questions. But this forum has become very quiet, so I figured even a partial answer is better than none at all!
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Family mobile (walmart) works
Hi there.
I've just bought a XTZ LTE and have been wondering if installing Cyanogenmod would make it possible to call from it?
I love how it is now, but I would prefer if I could make/recieve phonecalls too.
It's either Cyanogenmod or Skype. Would prefer to keep my old number and not pay 2 phone bills.
Minarch said:
Hi there.
I've just bought a XTZ LTE and have been wondering if installing Cyanogenmod would make it possible to call from it?
I love how it is now, but I would prefer if I could make/recieve phonecalls too.
It's either Cyanogenmod or Skype. Would prefer to keep my old number and not pay 2 phone bills.
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I would also like to know if this is possible?
Unless you guys are in Japan, which is the only country in the world so far where carriers have implemented voice calling over LTE, rather than GSM or CDMA - the rom you run on your XTZ isn't going to make any difference because to make regular phone calls over GSM or CDMA you need to have the actual hardware radio for that and this tablet doesn't have it.
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Unless you guys are in Japan, which is the only country in the world so far where carriers have implemented voice calling over LTE, rather than GSM or CDMA - the rom you run on your XTZ isn't going to make any difference because to make regular phone calls over GSM or CDMA you need to have the actual hardware radio for that and this tablet doesn't have it.
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But the SGP321 supports both GSM and WCDMA in addition to LTE, so that's not really helpful. There is however the question of whether the modem itself supports voice over GSM/WCDMA as the radio could be either the same or similar to the one in the Xperia Z phone.
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But the SGP321 supports both GSM and WCDMA in addition to LTE, so that's not really helpful. There is however the question of whether the modem itself supports voice over GSM/WCDMA as the radio could be either the same or similar to the one in the Xperia Z phone.
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WCDMA is just an alternative name for UMTS. It's a 3G data connection protocol. AFAIK no carrier in the world uses that for voice calls.I was not aware LTE version of XTZ had GSM radio, but I checked online and it turns out to be true. Therefore, it's possible to modify XTZ LTE firmware to unlock voice calling, but I doubt very much Cyanogenmod did it. It would have been big news and would have been all over tech blogs and it also would have been listed in CM nightlies changelog for XTZ LTE: http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=pollux
Thank you for answering.
I found a different approach.
First I tried Skype. Payed for a number and everything but found out that Skype doesn't support recieving SMS.
So now I've ordered a 4G-subscription to my XTZ.
Using my old Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 3G with my current subscription I can send all calls and texts to my XTZ through the app: Tablet Talk.
That way I can make and recieve calls on my XTZ through my Galaxy Tab 2 without problem.
There might be around ~400 ms lag on calls if they aren't on the same network, but I can live with that.
Minarch said:
Thank you for answering.
I found a different approach.
First I tried Skype. Payed for a number and everything but found out that Skype doesn't support recieving SMS.
So now I've ordered a 4G-subscription to my XTZ.
Using my old Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 3G with my current subscription I can send all calls and texts to my XTZ through the app: Tablet Talk.
That way I can make and recieve calls on my XTZ through my Galaxy Tab 2 without problem.
There might be around ~400 ms lag on calls if they aren't on the same network, but I can live with that.
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Are you sure on this? I'm pretty sure there is no app or rom that will allow you to send/receive voice to another device for use with a GSM call.
I think tablet talk just allows you to control calls from a tablet device and send them to a bluetooth headset but won't actually let you use the tablet as if it were a blutetooth headset (bluetooth profiles are missing/not supported in android I believe)
Does that make any sense?
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Are you sure on this? I'm pretty sure there is no app or rom that will allow you to send/receive voice to another device for use with a GSM call.
I think tablet talk just allows you to control calls from a tablet device and send them to a bluetooth headset but won't actually let you use the tablet as if it were a blutetooth headset (bluetooth profiles are missing/not supported in android I believe)
Does that make any sense?
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After hours of research I found you that you're right.
So I've forwarded calls to my Skype-number.
Much easier.
I can tell you that on my new SGP321 I am able to send/recieve SMS - I only realised because EE sent me a message to welcome me to the network.
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I can tell you that on my new SGP321 I am able to send/recieve SMS - I only realised because EE sent me a message to welcome me to the network.
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Sorry to tag onto the end of an old thread, but the basic question of phone calls via the XTZ still seems to be hanging in the air. I've got a T-mobile voice/text/mobile internet sim in my SGP321, and I can send and receive texts via this subscription.
I just don't understand why phone calls can't be enabled: the tablet obviously has audio hardware (microphone and speakers), so support for audio is obviously built into the firmware; it accepts a SIM with a package including voice minutes; it apparently supports the same GSM spec as the Samsung Galaxy 10 (which has phone capability) (I'd give a link to the comparison, but apparently as a new user I'm not allowed to do so!)
So what's the problem? I guess it comes down to whether or not it's caused by an omission in hardware or software. If the former, we're stuck; if the latter - well, surely it should be possible - somehow?
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WCDMA is just an alternative name for UMTS. It's a 3G data connection protocol. AFAIK no carrier in the world uses that for voice calls. http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=pollux
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UMTS is not just a data connection protocol; it's an entire 3G system. WCDMA is not "just another name for UMTS"; it's best thought of one of three different signal types UMTS can use. (WCDMA, aka UMTS-FDD, is used by almost all UMTS operators.)
Virtually every network operator on Earth with an active UMTS network uses it for voice, with a few exceptions (two or three Internet-only operators). They would be completely stupid not to - UMTS provides between 40 and 60 active voice calls per sector, vs. GSM's 7.
AT&T Mobility, T-Mobile, EE, Vodafone, Orange, O2, you name it; if it operates UMTS, you can bet voice calls are running over UMTS.