Hi every one,
i'm going to upgrade to a new phone soon!
First i wanted to go with the Samsung GS2 but a far as i red, it has a Yamaha DAC! Now, is the Audio QUALITY (i don't care about the volume that much! on my OLD Nokia N95-3 i never listened on a higher vol. level than 50% at home, with my cans) comparable to... sayin' an iPod touch 2nd gen? (wich is, besides my N95 and netbook, the only device i have to capare lol) or a Netbook onboard Soundcard? (Realtek HD Audio...) or should i rather get the ATRIX? (wich has a wolfson DAC, i think) but the bad thing on the Atrix is that is doesn't have as much memory (11,5 gigs vs. nothing) wich means i can't put my whole library on the phone...
EDIT: what i basicly wanna ask is: is the Audio Quality of the Yamaha DAC really THAT BAD?
thanks!
has rly no1 any idea?
Sg2. Sound quality is decent for a phone, nd the sg2 rapes the atrix in every other way.
Peace
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You should head to GSMARENA for a comprehensive review on the audio quality of the SGS II:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-597p8.php
It's at the bottom of the page.
kohiiou said:
You should head to GSMARENA for a comprehensive review on the audio quality of the SGS II:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-597p8.php
It's at the bottom of the page.
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"Things aren't as impressive when you plug-in a pair of headphones. Stereo crosstalk, which increases rapidly, volume levels decrease and intermodulation distortion starts creeping in. The general result is still decent, but we've certainly seen better here." ...hmmm
I too say the GS2, although the tegra 2 processor is good the exynos prosessor easily out performs it, noticably. As for the laptop dock, a big fail.
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... rapes ....
Peace
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Peace and rape in the same sentence!
It's decent. I'd assume that only an audiophile would be able to tell the difference.
But the SGS2 is a far better choice imo compared to the Atrix. Especially when you consider that the Atrix is more expensive than the SGS2, has a smaller screen, no SMOLED+, slower cpu/gpu, smaller customer base, less development, etc.
If you've been paying attention to the dev thread on the atrix, you know that there's about to be some VERY big things happening
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If you've been paying attention to the dev thread on the atrix, you know that there's about to be some VERY big things happening
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I'm sure there is, but it's pretty clear that it is essentially an inferior device.
but the bad thing on the Atrix is that is doesn't have as much memory (11,5 gigs vs. nothing)
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Why is that? Atrix is 16GB device, with 1GB of RAM, exactly the same as SGS2
I have Atrix 4G for a month, my father liked it a lot and want to get one. Now i am thinking about giving my atrix to him and getting SGS2 for myself. I like SGS2, but i want say that "it is essentially an inferior device" is incorrect, Atrix certainly have some problems, but so SGS2 as well. HDMI port on Atrix it's a very nice thing, and it works on any HDMI TV or monitor in 2 modes (media center or webtop) without any additional hardware, via included HDMI cable. SGS2 screen is better indeed in size and quality, but atrix have better resolution, 800*480 on such a big and hi-quality screen as SGS2's one it's an epic fail IMO. Anyways, what i am saying is that grass isn't always greener on the other side, Atrix and SGS2 are perfectly comparable devices of the same generation/price range (Atrix is cheaper now), just compare all the +/- of both devices to decide which one better fits your needs.
Doesnt the Atrix share half it's RAM with the WEB OS for the docks though?? If so, that's not so good.
Also, with a pentile display, the Atrix higher resolution still looks aweful as it's pixellated. This is what put me off it.
Aside from being slower, im sure the Atrix is a nice device
Edit: Sorry, meant to say, for audio, I use poweramp and as far as i'm concerned, the audio is quite good. Then again, ive
never rated ipod/iphone audio quality so my opinion is probably biased lol.
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Doesnt the Atrix share half it's RAM with the WEB OS for the docks though?? If so, that's not so good.
Also, with a pentile display, the Atrix higher resolution still looks aweful as it's pixellated. This is what put me off it.
Aside from being slower, im sure the Atrix is a nice device
Edit: Sorry, meant to say, for audio, I use poweramp and as far as i'm concerned, the audio is quite good. Then again, ive
never rated ipod/iphone audio quality so my opinion is probably biased lol.
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I am not sure what it shares with Webtop, but the amount of available RAM is around 800 MB, which is roughly the same as SGS2.
About display, first of all I do agree that SGS2's one is better, but all the stories about awful pentile display are way exaggerated. Atrix have a very good hi-res display, I've compared it to LG G2X's one head to head, you may notice pentile only when trying to read extremely small content, for example while fitting to screen big webpage without any zoom. On normal usage scenarios it looks perfectly on par with non-pentile displays.
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I know that there have already been posts about this but...... I played with my friends galaxy s - vodafone branded. Totally rubbish screen. Vibrant, oversaturated, and very very blurry - almost PSP screen blurry. It was awful, and text virtually unreadable. Then, both my parents got iPhone 4s. WOW. Screen is so sharp its beautiful. Atrix was looking great until I saw that it was RGBW rather than RGB. Why? Can anyone comment? Is it better/worse than galaxy s clarity wise? Better/worse than iPhone 4 clarity wise? Any photos MUCH appreciated. Thanks a lot
iPhone 4 > Motorola Atrix
iPhone 4 has a 3.5" screen with a resolution of 960 by 640.
Now this screen is just drop-dead gorgeous. And nobody can argue with that. It has a pixel density of 326 ppi. This is more than the human eye can see, and is thus named the 'Retina Display'
On the other hand, the Motorola Atrix is much newer and is running Android. It has a 540by 960 but a 4 inch display. This is considerably more blurry than the iPhone 4's display. It has a useless laptop dock but for $499 who will think to buy it?!?!?!?! It does not even have a proper OS on it!
Once you have used the iPhone 4 I can assure you that you will never return to the Motorola Atrix. Now if you are a gamer like me, then you need a good Applications Store. The Apple iPhone 4 has the Apple App Store with stunning applications with HD graphics. Whereas, the Motorola Atrix utilises the Android Market which has rubbish, useless, demo apps. The best application on the Android Market is probably Angry Birds, which has advertisements filling the screen and can become very buggy.
In conclusion, I believe that iPhone 4, albeit much older, is superior to the Motorola Atrix anyday. This shows how Apple remains victorious so far. Until the iPhone 5 is released.
Apple troll
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holy fanboy batman!
yes, the pixel density of the iphone4 is better, but i assure you it's not so great you can't see it.
Trolls Trolls
Deary me, another appolyte . iSheep these days....
You have a point with the retina display being a higher PPI. Wow. It took a genius to figure that out. I'm trying to find out how much better it is, and I really can't take a trolls word for it :/
DarkyHero,
I want to thank you, I have not had a good laugh all day until reading your post.
kartik50,
First off i'd recommend to not pay any attention to trolls with some agenda and half baked inaccurate ideas.
But, moving on, in my family we have the Galaxy S, Iphone 4 and I have the Atrix. I do find the Iphone screen to be very good, no question about it however I personally liked the Galaxy S screen better. But that was until I got my Atrix. It was then I noticed how over saturated the Galaxy S looked (and as you said a little blurry, but not by much) when putting them side by side. As far as what one out of the three are the best? I think its personal preference and all 3 (to me) look very good. I'd pick the screen of the iPhone4 1st then the Atrix second. The Atrix is very sharp and clear and I'm having no complaints.
As far as the obvious far from fact-based claim from DarkyHero about the app market on Android.. I'm sure you recognize a troll for what they are.
I guess my eyes are just weird then. My freind standing right next to me, couldn't see any of the issues I could with the Galaxy s screen. We only looked at the Touchwiz Ui 3.0 text. However, iPhone blows me away. I have a 3GS right now, so I hope that the Atrix is far far superior. On a side note, Atrix vs Xperia Play? Both on Orange Uk, update months overdue.......
iPhone 4 wins as far as displays go. There isn't another mobile device on the market with a better screen. The Atrix has the best looking screen of any Android device, unless of course you like the oversaturated samsung super amoleds. The only use case where the Atrix's screen falls short is when brightness is cranked up to max, but there is honestly no need to do this unless you are trying to look at your phone in direct sun light.
I wish we were able to save you before the Apple troll showed up. Anyway.
iPhone 4 does have a beautiful screen, however, this 3.5" screen is way too small to enjoy. Once you try a +4" screen, you won't ever go back. Moreover, Atrix has the same footprint of iPhone 4, so you won't notice any extra bulk with the significantly bigger screen.
qHD is almost same as iPhone 4's screen resolution, so there should be no worries there either. As a matter of fact, given the widescreen you'll find on the Atrix, you'll see more pixels of your movies than you normally would on iPhone 4's square-ish display.
A BIG difference between iPhone 4 and Atrix is the dual-core Cortex A9-based Tegra 2 processor; you'll get a seemless FULL DESKTOP experience when browsing the web. With Opera Mobile 11, you'll be able to have iPhone-smoothness as well.
In response to darkyhero.
Is this a serious post? Or are you just this big of an idiot? The iTurd does not have a retina display, it was just marketing hype.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/iphone-4-retina/
I one minute Google search found this.
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wow!
Something tells me dhero has never used an atrix, been an android power user, played starfox 64 on their atrix with a wiimote, or understood the walled garden of apple's for what it is: a fortress of steve jobs devoid of hacking(the good kind), pornography, and meant for people of all ages, like the 13 year old darky hero here. Judging by your blind optimism for iOS and writing, maybe steve jobs was on the money making a sanitized kids toy. Oh wait its not a kids toy it shatters like a wine glass from 4 feet. Ok, I guess he just wants your money. Every year. You cannot even swap the damn batteries out, my last smartphone lasted me 3 years with 4 batteries. And yes it got five days of solid use with an extended battery...
Ugh don’t get me started on apple and their financial brilliance(their financial success often comes at the cost of their customers, *cough* apple tax *cough*).
So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
Definitely. SGS has a 480x800 sceen. Clarity will definitely be better than that.
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So - clarity wise can anyone say its better than SGS? Also- I just saw a review from PhoneDog saying that Nexus S>Atrix? WTF? I mean lag lag lag lag thats all the Atrix was doing? I know there arent any custom roms - Damn you motorola! - but will there be fixes? I know what its like to get a cutting edge phone that became obsolete (samsung Tocco). BTW u guys reply FAST. Thanks!
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I haven't seen any lag on my phone. Granted, I'm coming from a Touch Pro, so anything should seem fast buuuut...
Get Opera Mobile from the marketplace for a web browser and it clips along pretty good.
So it's not android optimization for dual core? If thats the case, then why te f.u.c.k did Moto even put on blur?!
I have two screenshots with accompanying pictures of the screen for comparison:
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/homescreen1-t2i.jpg
You'll notice any solid color ends up being "checkerboarded" by the PenTile screen.
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1.png
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/atrix/speakPrompt1-t2i.jpg
The gradient was already weird (blocky?) in the screenshot, but on the actual screen it just looks terrible.
I notice the PenTile color "checkerboarding" all the time in w/e apps or videos and it is a distraction but for me it isn't a deal breaker.
Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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Thanks so much for posting these pics! You call it checkerboarding, I call it blurriness but this is it - the thing I saw on the galaxy s. Well if it's back.... Mainly this screen will be used for gaming, movies and web browsing. I'd say movies will be below par due to bad colour- gaming too and email mucked up due to pentile. Plz correct me- bc it's looking quite grim...
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You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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ChongoDroid said:
You guys are high... I'm not experiencing any clipping like I did on the nexus one gallery. Quick pic for gallery and dolphin for browser.
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What is clipping?
The Atrix has a 4" display with 540 x 960 resolution. This is higher pixel density than almost every other phone on the market except the iPhone 4. The iPhone, however, only has a 3.5" display, and once you have used a 4" display for any length of time (or even a 3.7") it is very hard to loose that extra space. It is the highest resolution and pixel density android phone available (except for that Sharp one in Japan that is an NTT DoCoMo exclusive and uses the same display Sharp supply to Apple).
PenTile is laid out RRB GGB so you have RGB, just two lots of each. Unless you are insanely fussy about screens, you will not notice. Plus it will look better than most other screens purely for having a higher pixel density.
I wouldn't worry about it being PenTile. Have a look at this http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4 .
hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it !
GS2
SAMOLED Plus have some bad colors ??
in the future GS2 will get htc Sense 3.0 rom ??
how much avilable of RAM in GS2 ?? i know GS2 have 1GB RAM but how much available for user after using phone like 10 hours ??
anything else ??
Stop filling up this forum with the same old boring question!
Your in a GS2 forum, of course people are gonna say gs2
Spec wise S2 is better, and general internet reviews suggest it's also the better phone, however there's enough opinions in this and the Sensation's forums to know the pros and cons of each to make up your mind.
i also put a topic on sensation forum
The sensation sucks in comparision,
16gb of space, and the sensation only has about 1gb.
Also, the GS2 screen is simply awesome in comparision to the higher resolution qhd screen. Whilst text will look a 'little bit crisper' - the colours are ****e, and the whole screen has a 'washed out' look.
GS2 has higher HSPDA speeds, has a media player that can actually skip through tracks and a larger battery too.
GS2 is very light and ultra thin, whereas the sensation is built with plastic AND metal - so is thicker and heavier (personal choice)
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After owning a htc hd2 and now the gs2 for w months i will say, the build quality of the gs2 is rubbish, gaps near the charging port lets dust in and speaker grill, also the phone for me is to light and tends to want to slip out when using it one handed. Also my device has the os battery bug for some time, it comes and goes randomly.
Sorry to be negative but its better to know the fauilts then to just hear this is the best phone and i love it.
So personaly id go for the sensation and wish i did. Just my opinion
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I own both the Sensation and SGS2, and to put it bluntly, the Sensation is awful compared to the SGS2. I really tried to like the Sensation but it's just a poorly put together device. The Sensation does feel a bit more high quality but really what does that matter when the device your holding is a 2nd rate device. The SGS2 is not without it's flaws but at the moment, bar none, it's the best Android device on the market if not the best device period. You will not regret getting the SGS2 the same cannot be said of the Sensation
Ok. Both got 1,2Ghz Dual-core CPU.
Let's see...
Galaxy S 2 scored about 3500 in Quadrant. I know, it's not a big deal, but Sensation scores about 1200?
Well... the difference is.. 2300... That's a lot man.
Plus, the Galaxy S 2, has better CPU. AS for the GPU, I think the Sensation beats it(Adreno 220(Sensation) vs Mali400(S 2))
Ok, the sensation has a qHD resolution, but d'oh. You prefer the qHD res over the super duper amazing extra dynamic colors of the Super Amoled Plus?
I was between those two. Oh, and the S 2 has 250+ more RAM.
And I chose the Galaxy S 2. It's perfect, slim, awesome. ~~
NIK516 said:
After owning a htc hd2 and now the gs2 for w months i will say, the build quality of the gs2 is rubbish, gaps near the charging port lets dust in and speaker grill, also the phone for me is to light and tends to want to slip out when using it one handed. Also my device has the os battery bug for some time, it comes and goes randomly.
Sorry to be negative but its better to know the fauilts then to just hear this is the best phone and i love it.
So personaly id go for the sensation and wish i did. Just my opinion
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Have you owned the Sensation because the bugs you reference are minor in comparison to what you have on the Sensation.
-juanito- said:
hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it !
GS2
SAMOLED Plus have some bad colors ??
in the future GS2 will get htc Sense 3.0 rom ??
how much avilable of RAM in GS2 ?? i know GS2 have 1GB RAM but how much available for user after using phone like 10 hours ??
anything else ??
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The SAMOLED plus is fantastic IMO, I prefer it over the Sensation screen.
Developers are working on Sense 3.0 port for SGS2
Current RAM on my SGS2 = 545MB
Current RAM on my Sensation = 252MB
Konstantinos said:
Ok. Both got 1,2Ghz Dual-core CPU.
Let's see...
Galaxy S 2 scored about 3500 in Quadrant. I know, it's not a big deal, but Sensation scores about 1200?
Well... the difference is.. 2300... That's a lot man.
Plus, the Galaxy S 2, has better CPU. AS for the GPU, I think the Sensation beats it(Adreno 220(Sensation) vs Mali400(S 2))
Ok, the sensation has a qHD resolution, but d'oh. You prefer the qHD res over the super duper amazing extra dynamic colors of the Super Amoled Plus?
I was between those two. Oh, and the S 2 has 250+ more RAM.
And I chose the Galaxy S 2. It's perfect, slim, awesome. ~~
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And lets not forget the Sensation lags like crazy. My Nexus S was faster than the Sensation
Galaxy S2 wins on:
Screen Quality (SA+ makes the higher resolution QHD screen look washed out)
Ram: 1GB vs 768mb
Storage: 16gb vs 1gb
Battery: 1650 vs 1540 - Not only does the GS2 include a larger battery, but the super amoled+ screen uses less power than the QHD screen.
HSPDA Speeds: 20.1mbps vs 14.4mbps ( i think )
GS2 wins on Video formats too, the inclusion of divx playback is fantastic.
Front facing camera on the GS2 is better.
Less lag: the sensation just does not operate as fast as the GS2, for what reason - i just dont know.
Quadrant: 3600 vs 1300 (big difference)
Camera: both phones offer 8mp, however the GS2 has a faster shutter speed, smoother action and more camera features. (both offer 1080p recording)
Call quality: both have dual microphones, but the sensation has extremely poor noise cancellation - hence the GS2 win.
Thiness/weight: GS2 is super thin and super light - no contest.
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Sensation wins on:
Build quality: plastic and metal is obviously a higher build quality than plastic.
..... Thats it.
Some ppl prefer HTC sense, but since using TW4 - it runs flawlessly for me (unlike TW3) - user preferance.
Not sure if ive missed anything, but sure others will chip in too
(it would be better to compare the sensation to the galaxy+ rather than GS2 - yet i feel, the sensation would still lose on many points from above)
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The Sensation's time has come and gone. The Ruby and Holiday already far exceed its specs. Hell, even the E3D has more RAM. The Sensation was evolutionary for HTC while the SGS2 was revolutionary for Samsung. Not that the SGS2 isn't going to be superseded too, but not as dramatically and not as quickly.
HTC is very known for poor audio. Sensation has a very tiny sounding speaker just like the rest of them.
I hate when people are negative about sgs2 build quality. Ive had mine since launch and dropped it over 20 times now and besides a scuff on the bezel the rest of the phone is in great/perfect shape. I will never understand that people complain aobut how light it is when Samsung intended to make it as thin as possible. Any case fixes that issue also.
The Sensation gets dust under screen within a few days. Has the death grip(I think all phones have this) and have touch screen issues and horrible in direct sunlight.
If your getting the unlocked international sgs2, youll know that Samsung is updating the device like crazy. CM7 crew is supporting the device also.
If you happen to not like the sgs2 for any reason, and would rather go for a HTC device. I would advise you to wait until there next big device comes.
Well I had Galaxy S2 and at the moment have a sensation. While I had s2 I had 2 issues. Yellowish left side screen only noticeable até gray background and pink spot on photos and i replaced the unit, got rid of yellowish and almost gone pink spot but then had hd video recording frame rate drop at low light conditions... Well i thought, I payed 500 euro for this? So traded with sensation and this is the real thing that happened, even with the new 2.3.4 super fast ROM it doesn't compare with the speed of s2 but ok, is fast enough... Had touch screen issues already not responding to my command and having force closes with everyday apps and even now phone reboots itself when trying to play a game... Also phone calls sound thin and low volume, having a little distortion, audio recording also too thin. Already asked for a replace going back to S2 and pink spot and video problems since the rest just feels quick and perfect...
BUT I love sense, if anyone depends on it, don't go wrong, sensation and sense 3.0 is just so easy and complete, beautiful and with new update 2.3.4 no lag at all! I hope I had HTC build, responsiveness and speed of Samsung and sense... About the screen at the beginning I thought samoled+ was way better but now I think is a matter of taste and what we get used to...
Hope it helps
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chrisjcks said:
Sensation wins on:
Build quality: plastic and metal is obviously a higher build quality than plastic.
..... Thats it.
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Isn't galaxy plastic shell over metal body? I remember seeing the tear down showing metal skeletal structure
The only thing I noticed that grabbed my attention when testing out the sgs2 and sensation was it's weather animations and nice funky if a little busy lockscreen, other than that the sgs2 screen simply blows the slightly unnoticeable higher res screen that is ever so washed out, the sgs2 is noticeably faster to use, not entirely convinced by all the sense clutter myself but that's a personal opinion, the physical weight of the sgs2 is so much lighter in the hand pure bliss to hold up and read books while lying in bed arms never get tired, playing dungeon hunter 2 on the sgs2 is eyepopping joy compared to the drab looking dungeon world on the sensation, build quality of the sgs2 is always knocked, in my opinion how they plastic engineered so much ram, memory and CPU with such a large battery and screen into such a light package is astounding, being an ex plastic design engineer I guess I get excited about such twaddle, there you go my real world non spec view on the situation, just buy the sgs2
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The only thing I noticed that grabbed my attention when testing out the sgs2 and sensation was it's weather animations and nice funky if a little busy lockscreen, other than that the sgs2 screen simply blows the slightly unnoticeable higher res screen that is ever so washed out, the sgs2 is noticeably faster to use, not entirely convinced by all the sense clutter myself but that's a personal opinion, the physical weight of the sgs2 is so much lighter in the hand pure bliss to hold up and read books while lying in bed arms never get tired, playing dungeon hunter 2 on the sgs2 is eyepopping joy compared to the drab looking dungeon world on the sensation, build quality of the sgs2 is always knocked, in my opinion how they plastic engineered so much ram, memory and CPU with such a large battery and screen into such a light package is astounding, being an ex plastic design engineer I guess I get excited about such twaddle, there you go my real world non spec view on the situation, just buy the sgs2
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It's true, no one does Weather better than HTC. As a matter of fact, no one comes close. If HTC sold their weather app on the market Beautiful Widgets would have to file for bankruptcy. The other area HTC does a good job on is their keyboard. The HTC IME is fantastic and their auto-correct function is as good if not better than the iPoo
Nokia 3310 so you don't fill these forums next with how do I root and install romzzz plzzzzz...
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My good god, same question every week:/
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I'm currently using an inspire but there are a few things I dislike about it.
1) camera
2) external speaker
3) weight
4) screen is just average
5) gps is inconsistent no matter how many gps tweaks i do
i can't see to find a sgs ii in a store to check out. i can only find the LTE version, the skyrocket or whatever it's called. anyone here come from an Inspire? how do they compare? pro's cons?
how is the developer community here? i'm quite satisfied with cm7 on my inspire and the devs are hard at work trying to get ICS running. It seems like the international sgs ii is the one that's getting the most dev support and rom's made for that phone are not 100% compatible with the AT&T version.
Much faster than my inspire, touch wiz is very different. GPS seems better but I think it's just my area. Screen is worlds better so is speaker, but I like the srs on the inspire better for headphones. Camera is much faster too.
The phone just feels much more responsive. Weights feels about half the inspire. I love the sgs2 better than the inspire even with a few things I miss from sense.
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AntwanL said:
Much faster than my inspire, touch wiz is very different. GPS seems better but I think it's just my area. Screen is worlds better so is speaker, but I like the srs on the inspire better for headphones. Camera is much faster too.
The phone just feels much more responsive. Weights feels about half the inspire. I love the sgs2 better than the inspire even with a few things I miss from sense.
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95% of the time i'm listing to podcasts. 5% pandora. how much does the SRS make a difference? i don't think the inspire is impressive with sound on a headset, i just think it's normal. wouldn't the type of headset you used make a bigger difference than srs?
The gs2 is a far superior phone hands down. Not bashing the inspire,,, just stating a fact. Its even better than the skyrocket, hardware wise. I love this phone and trust me when I say you won't regret it. I happen to work for att and I have quite a few in stock..
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@substance12
You forgot terrible battery life. Those inspires were beyond help for bad battery. So happy with battery life for this phone.
And screen is much better. The inspire's is almost as bad as the atrix, but with lower resolution.
Not to mention terrible to work on. I hate hate hate working on inspires. So many things are so easy to break.
As far as dev support, look through it. There are so many great roms, and with entropy512's hellraiser I would say at minimum 75% and up of the international's roms are compatible with this phone. Many here use them as their day to day use they're so stable.
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I haven't tried cheap headphones so idk. 5.1 dolby is nice, no doubt about it. I like srs. That's only in the stock music apps though. If you don't use that than disregard it. The screen is slightly bigger on the inspire. Not a big deal.
If you're rooting it than the ui launcher isn't a big deal, like sense vs touchwiz. The sgs2 is like an entirely different device in terms of performance. Better battery life too ime.
You will not regret the switch at all.
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1) camera - Decent, havent really compared to my older phone.
2) external speaker - Nice and loud almost to loud
3) weight - light, kinda feels like its a toy and not a phone (not a bad thing)
4) screen is just average - screen is very average (was pretty disappointed honestly)
5) gps is inconsistent no matter how many gps tweaks i do - In my experience the GPS is NEVER accurate, ever.
I am still learning about this phone, i dont dislike it, but my personal advice would be to wait till something better comes along.
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I haven't tried cheap headphones so idk. 5.1 dolby is nice, no doubt about it. I like srs. That's only in the stock music apps though. If you don't use that than disregard it. The screen is slightly bigger on the inspire. Not a big deal.
If you're rooting it than the ui launcher isn't a big deal, like sense vs touchwiz. The sgs2 is like an entirely different device in terms of performance. Better battery life too ime.
You will not regret the switch at all.
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The screen is the same size on both
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I switched from the Inspire to the SGS II. I couldn't be happier.
sgs2 is the way to go for sure , i returned my skyrocket to get the s2 ...
and as far as ispire goes .... 2 words to make the switch alone ...
SUPER AMOLED
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1) camera - Decent, havent really compared to my older phone.
2) external speaker - Nice and loud almost to loud
3) weight - light, kinda feels like its a toy and not a phone (not a bad thing)
4) screen is just average - screen is very average (was pretty disappointed honestly)
5) gps is inconsistent no matter how many gps tweaks i do - In my experience the GPS is NEVER accurate, ever.
I am still learning about this phone, i dont dislike it, but my personal advice would be to wait till something better comes along.
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That's weird, b/c my thoughts are:
1) camera - excellent both in speed and pics and video, right there with the 4S (maybe a slight edge to 4S in certain conditions) which both are about as good as it gets for a camera on a phone right now
2) external speaker - agree, it's very nice and loud, and clear... better then my iPhones
3) weight - yeh it's very light, my iphones feel like mini bricks in comparison, but I love the lightness of it. Everyone that first holds it that's the first thing they comment on "damn it's light".
4) Screen - not sure what you mean by avg? This screen is flat out gorgeous, I even prefer it over the Retina on my iPhone4. It's bright and sharp and "pops" like hell. Even looks better now after I downloaded an app that let me play around with contrast and few other settings.
5) GPS - must be where you live or hardware/software issue with your phone, b/c the GPS on mine is fast and very accurate.
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That's weird, b/c my thoughts are:
1) camera - excellent both in speed and pics and video, right there with the 4S (maybe a slight edge to 4S in certain conditions) which both are about as good as it gets for a camera on a phone right now
2) external speaker - agree, it's very nice and loud, and clear... better then my iPhones
3) weight - yeh it's very light, my iphones feel like mini bricks in comparison, but I love the lightness of it. Everyone that first holds it that's the first thing they comment on "damn it's light".
4) Screen - not sure what you mean by avg? This screen is flat out gorgeous, I even prefer it over the Retina on my iPhone4. It's bright and sharp and "pops" like hell. Even looks better now after I downloaded an app that let me play around with contrast and few other settings.
5) GPS - must be where you live or hardware/software issue with your phone, b/c the GPS on mine is fast and very accurate.
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this^^. I have owned A LOT of high end devices. way too many to list. This is hands down the best device ive ever owned. and i dont know what screen your looking out that had you disappointed, but if you were, ID LOVE TO KNOW what you were comparing it to, IMHO its the best BY FAR on the market. In terms of resolution, maybe, but everything else, your bugging.
DKS128 said:
1) camera - Decent, havent really compared to my older phone.
2) external speaker - Nice and loud almost to loud
3) weight - light, kinda feels like its a toy and not a phone (not a bad thing)
4) screen is just average - screen is very average (was pretty disappointed honestly)
5) gps is inconsistent no matter how many gps tweaks i do - In my experience the GPS is NEVER accurate, ever.
I am still learning about this phone, i dont dislike it, but my personal advice would be to wait till something better comes along.
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Troll.
OP, just ignore this post.
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Troll.
OP, just ignore this post.
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lol, dude deleted his account. what a douche.
the only problems I have: horrible audio quality in expensive headphones and the mhl cable dropped the connection while I'm playing movies. I have the mhl cable on my counter near the trash and use my laptop hdmi for movies.
How does this device compare to the Atrix?
I have the Atrix with Poweramp & Flac files & it's pretty damn good. Just wondered if anyone has comapred the two devices & which is the better?
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127 Veiws & not one answer.
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127 Veiws & not one answer.
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Have not used Atrix.. but this sounds better than any other smartphone I have owned previously......which includes Nokia, SE, Apple, HTC.....
Using it with Audiotechnica IEs..
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Have not used Atrix.. but this sounds better than any other smartphone I have owned previously......which includes Nokia, SE, Apple, HTC.....
Using it with Audiotechnica IEs..
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Many thanks for the reply.
The sound with a set of Bose in ear head phones is phenominal.
It's not exactly at Galaxy S with Voodoo Sound levels, but it's definitely above average. Just make sure you've turned the sound enhancements off.
I use Ultimate Ears SuperFi 5 IEMs on the go, and the good old Grado SR60i's at home.
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Much better than my old sgs2. Tested with both Sennheiser HD555 (high impedance large supra aural) and Ultimate Ears SuperFi 5 (low impedance small iem).
It drive the senn without problem. With sgs2 i need my small fiio amp to obtain good result.
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Have some Rocketfish BT headphones and use PowerAmp. The sound quality is great.
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I have never heard an ATRIX, but I found that RAZR's sound is pretty good (Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10). As said above, it is nothing like Galaxy S's Wolfson with voodoo sound, but it is AWESOME in comparison to Galaxy SII ****ty Yamaha DAC.
I sold my Galaxy SII specifically due to it's ****ty DAC, build quality and useless GPS. Razr is pretty slow and has a ridiculous screen panel (mine come with 1 dead pixel), but at least it's build quality is a thousand times better than any Samsung's phone. Oh, point to RAZR's GPS, it is insanely fast and powerful.
Well, I hope we get soon a nice ROM that sends all motorola **** to hell and unlocks the RAZR's true power.
Good luck with your RAZR.
"Razr is pretty slow..."
Compared to what? Seems pretty fast to me.
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"Razr is pretty slow..."
Compared to what? Seems pretty fast to me.
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Compared to the Galaxy S II, yes, it is noticeably slower.
Although I didn't find the S II's GPS useless, the RAZR is better in that regard, and I'd say it's the GLONASS support that does it.
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I didn't even noticed that razr has glonass... And I must say: this russian thing rocks. GSII gps may not be useless, but it is still worse than a lot of other cellphones.
In terms of speed, razr's boot is the thing that is really annoying and makes me sad when I remember GSII extremely fast boot. At least, when everything is loaded up there's no pain in razr usability.
I think that razr's slowness is a bit due to moto**** bloatware, but specially due to worse access speed between RAM and OMAP, when in comparison to GSII RAM and Exynos. I would suggest slower flash memory, but it seems that razr's flash can be even faster in some cases. I haven't any conclusive data to this hypothesis, but based on what I know, seems to be razr's slowness reason.
Well, razr is pretty new in market yet, so there is still hope for us in getting a better software, giving us a faster phone.
Think you've hit the proverbial nail there. Moto make lovely hardware, but the software on the RAZR is rather...odd.
Although if what I've heard is true, the RAZR was rushed to get product on shelves for Christmas, and was intended to ship with ICS - both the hurried gingerbread port from the Bionic/Droid 3 flavour of Blur and the decision to release a 'GSM variant' when both the XT910 & XT912 (appear to) have exactly the same hardware with locked down radios were apparently last minute changes. Or so rumour would have it.
On the Samsung front, the Note has GLONASS support and benefits enormously from it, so that should be the end of their positioning woes going forward.
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How does this device compare to the Atrix?
I have the Atrix with Poweramp & Flac files & it's pretty damn good. Just wondered if anyone has comapred the two devices & which is the better?
Cheers
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What type of sound question is this? Are you wanting to know how it sounds playing music files with the built in speaker? Voice sound quality?
Never used an Atrix but the Razr sounds great. No complaints here
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What type of sound question is this? Are you wanting to know how it sounds playing music files with the built in speaker? Voice sound quality?
Never used an Atrix but the Razr sounds great. No complaints here
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I am wanting to know how it sounds through a pair of quality earphones with a good music player, preferably play Flac's.
The Atrix is very good but I wanted a larger screen. The razr ticks most boxes but I didn't want to take step backwards in the quality of music reproduction.
Can you shed some light?
just want to share with what I noticed today.was at a local shopping center, saw a stall selling mobile accessories, they have a casing for razr, which they claim improves sound from the tear speaker.I tried it on, honestly utter improves sound quality.
What it does is that it has some tunnels running around on the inside of the casing, enabling the sound waves to propagate to appropriate exit points, resulting in surrounds like sound.. It actually works.. But the price tag its ridiculously high.. So I did not buy it.. anyone else saw this housing? Some weird China brand.. Can't seem to find or on internet.
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How does this device compare to the Atrix?
I have the Atrix with Poweramp & Flac files & it's pretty damn good. Just wondered if anyone has comapred the two devices & which is the better?
Cheers
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I have Razr, Atrix and Defy and I find they all have very close and decent sound(through jack), unless you use dollar store head phones, you might well be plugging into your butt. Speaker phone and ear piece, another story.
When I first listened to the razr with my Grado SR80i headphones, I was rather disapointed. After that, I found out the phone had some ****ty equalizer turned on for headphones. Once I turned that off, it sounded fine.
drolgnir said:
I have Razr, Atrix and Defy and I find they all have very close and decent sound(through jack), unless you use dollar store head phones, you might well be plugging into your butt. Speaker phone and ear piece, another story.
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Cool, but which one has the edge, Atrix or Razr? Which do you prefer to use to listen to on a more regular basis?
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Okay, i cant give the edge to either. Both are about the same volume maxed out and neither has more lows or highs than the other. I just blast my ears for 10 mins doing various hot swaps, and prolonged listening, to one intense orchestral song with some serious tones. This was a side by side, with same headphones, and eq options off using stock motoplayer with both set to volume one notch from full. I am not a bat or dog, but perhaps they could hear the diff.
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Seeing as I'm a big music fan, a major bullet point on the SIII vs the E4GLTE is sound quality. I know the SIII has the wolfson DAC which is supposed to be pretty damn killer (if it makes it to the Sprint version), but what about the Evo? I know they have that pos beats audio global EQ, but how's the DAC itself? And is there anything special for it like supercurio's voodoo sound?
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And I'm pairing em to Ultrasone DJ1 Pro headphones, so I will hear the difference.
I'm also pretty curous about this.
So far all I've gathered is that the international One X didn't have great sound quality but the One S had great sound quality. Slightly better than the iPhone4s according to a GSMarena review.
(gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p5.php)
So I was curious how the US variants would work.
I've read random forum posts that claim the DAC is built into the SoC of the phones. The AT&T One X and the EVO 4G LTE are using the S4 snapdragon which is what the One S was tested with.
So hopefully the sound quality on these phones will rival that of the One S and not the international One X.
But all of this is based on speculation of other posters...
I'd imagine a sound review of the AT&T One X would be a solid comparison to how the EVO 4G LTE will sound but I have yet to find a detailed review of such performance.
sinfiery said:
So far all I've gathered is that the international One X didn't have great sound quality but the One S had great sound quality. Slightly better than the iPhone4s according to a GSMarena review.
(gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p5.php)
So I was curious how the US variants would work.
I've read random forum posts that claim the DAC is built into the SoC of the phones. The AT&T One X and the EVO 4G LTE are using the S4 snapdragon which is what the One S was tested with.
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.011 THD on the One S can't touch the 4S's .0068, but it's still impressive and probably negligible. If the DAC's are built into the SoC, then the Sprint SIII will probably share the same DAC, since this claims the SIII will have the S4 because of the Exynos doesn't have native LTE support. So maybe slightly different implementations between the two?
The difference between the two for me is slowly coming down to screen, and internal memory. Cause if the DAC awesome, I'll probably grab the 64GB SIII then cram in a 64GB SDXC so I can load in straight FLAC's.
Caladbolg said:
.011 THD on the One S can't touch the 4S's .0068, but it's still impressive and probably negligible. If the DAC's are built into the SoC, then the Sprint SIII will probably share the same DAC, since //theandroidsoul.com/sprint-galaxy-s3-specification-mined-out-before-official-announcement-its-the-return-of-the-qualcomm-s4-processor/"]this claims the SII will have the S4[/URL] because of the Exynos doesn't have native LTE support. So maybe slightly different implementations between the two?
The difference between the two for me is slowly coming down to screen, and internal memory. Cause if the DAC awesome, I'll probably grab the 64GB SIII then cram in a 64GB SDXC so I can load in straight FLAC's.
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That's what I read from one random forum thread while I was researching this, but I have yet to find any true confirmation so take that information with a grain of salt.
But yeah, Sprint's SGS3 would most likely have the same SoC and presumably the same DAC for that reason.
From a thread on here, you should be able to use a 64GB SDXC with the EVO too. The only difference would be the 48GB internal difference, but I assume you might end up paying anywhere from $100-175 more for those variants.
From what I've read, screens comes down to personal preference. The SGS3 is pentile, but for real world use, word is that would be largely irrelevant.
Do you prefer AMOLED or SLCD2? Depends on the person.
The biggest factor for me is that this phone can be in my hands in 13 days, and the SGS3 hasn't even been announced for any US retailer. Hard to compare it to a phone that is potentially months away.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25852281&postcount=45
Back to square 1..
As it stands, Samsung said June for the LTE variant.
For the screen though, it doesn't really matter to me, though I read AMOLED uses far less power than SLCD except with full white screens.
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As it stands, Samsung said June for the LTE variant.
For the screen though, it doesn't really matter to me, though I read AMOLED uses far less power than SLCD except with full white screens.
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Indeed
Battery life should be better if watching movies for the S3, if browsing the web for the EVO.
Also:
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25852281&postcount=45
Back to square 1.
But as you said, it has been confirmed the SGS3 will have great a great DAC so that's a start..
It would be nice if the thing has decent ear piece loudness without having to use a hacked kernel to boost it.
My question is with the audio jack. When I plugged in my EVO to the car, I could hear a high pitched squeel in the background.
An iPod did not do the same thing. It was crystal clear, which leads me to believe it was a generic audio jack.
Anyone have any news regarding this?
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My question is with the audio jack. When I plugged in my EVO to the car, I could hear a high pitched squeel in the background.
An iPod did not do the same thing. It was crystal clear, which leads me to believe it was a generic audio jack.
Anyone have any news regarding this?
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See, now I always thought it was my new amp that was causing it. Wish I could check and see if it was just the OG Evo, but my head unit is fried.
mcwups1 said:
My question is with the audio jack. When I plugged in my EVO to the car, I could hear a high pitched squeel in the background.
An iPod did not do the same thing. It was crystal clear, which leads me to believe it was a generic audio jack.
Anyone have any news regarding this?
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Generally a squeal in the background, is feedback from the alternator. (Not always) But if you can accel/rev the engine, the frequency should change - proving it is indeed from the alt. You can add an in-line filter for such noise, the iPod may filter that on its own - I have no idea, dont use one.
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Generally a squeal in the background, is feedback from the alternator. (Not always) But if you can accel/rev the engine, the frequency should change - proving it is indeed from the alt. You can add an in-line filter for such noise, the iPod may filter that on its own - I have no idea, dont use one.
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Interesting information for sure.
How about Bluetooth a2dp audio quality? Sense 3.x is pretty bad, does the evolte/sense 4 fix the low bit pool/rate?
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Interesting information for sure.
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Ground feedback loops are a common issue for aftermarket stereos, but damn well shouldn't happen with a stock radio. Could be the Evo, might not.
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Ground feedback loops are a common issue for aftermarket stereos, but damn well shouldn't happen with a stock radio. Could be the Evo, might not.
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Doesn't hurt to have clean grounds. I used to have terrible feedback on am stations, I cut all my grounds, used a sanding disk on a angle grinder to clean up the metal, tossed on new ends and never had a problem since.
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How about Bluetooth a2dp audio quality? Sense 3.x is pretty bad, does the evolte/sense 4 fix the low bit pool/rate?
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BT should be fine, as far as I'm aware this has BT 4.0 and Apt-X codec support like the One X/S. Bluetooth 4.0 gives you higher audio bandwidth over bluetooth and Apt-X gives you lossless BT audio up to ~370kbps for stereo sound according to the developers at CSR. In blind A/B testing with my international One X via a wired connection and the Samsung HS3000 they sound the same to me for 320kbps mp3, and slightly worse for FLAC encoded files which were unlistenable on earlier BT versions).