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I am curious just how many people after hearing the reports that the GS2 woun't be available in the US or Canada until Sept/Oct are seriously considering a switch to another device or planning to use the delay to look for something better that won't have have hardware that is 6 months out of date due to a long delay from final production to retail.
With a 2 GHz chip from Samsung, the Tegra 3 and the iFail 5 all rumored for a September-January launch the GS2 is competing with some serious hardware that frankly it won't be on par with this winter for the NA market which is their largest market.
I feel like this is a complete failure on Samsung's part and they should be ensuring that the NA carriers aren't allowed to delay the launch of this device past May. I don't see how delaying this device until Q3 won't destroy their sales. Even if a large portion of their customers don't decided to just buy another device that has near equal or better specs and is available before Q3 I don't see how they will keep customers from waiting to the next generation of devices that will only be 1-2 months away. I know if I have to wait until Q3 and HTC or Motorola announces a Tegra 3 device with 10x the power of Atrix or 2X devices then then I can wait another month or two and get that instead of finally getting the GS2 knowing it is already outdated or will be in the next couple months at best.
Maybe if we get enough people here to make it clear to Samsung that they will most likely be buying a different device for one reason or another due to such a delayed release they will put some pressure on the carriers to not mess around with the device and just release it how it was meant to be and not delayed 6 months so they can load it up with bloat ware no one wanted to begin with.
I know I will be waiting a little longer before buying something else since I don't feel the Atrix or 2X are on the same level as the GS2 but with another 6 months of delays I can be pretty sure something will come along and knock the GS2 off it's pedestal and without a insane delay to their top market for delivering the device and when that day comes and it will Samsung will have officially lost another customer.
So what about everyone else, who feels if this release date is valid for the GS2 that they have lost a customer. Whether it be today or 6 months from now?
I feel slightly the same way, but if the rumors about late Q2/early Q3 are correct, we're looking at, more realistically, June-July.
The original Galaxy S wasn't released until around July-Sept for US carriers, but the European variants were also later, compared to the dates of the Galaxy S 2
Since GS Original was released in UK in June (instead of May for GS2) and the US version was September, it might make sense that we're looking at June-July (with an unfortunate possibility of August) for US.
I'm willing to wait that long, if they can keep from butchering the device for US carriers.
But the combination of lack of information, a much later release date, and the possibility of a neutered phone is definitely making me rethink my previous position, which was "wait for this damn phone at all costs".
I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and then if their is no offical date for the US then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really I wouldn't have any problem waiting a little longer if they would give us some news at least other than 1 rumor that it may be 6 months behind Europe and therefor 6 month outdated hardware.
But as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
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Yeah I'm starting to get a little fed up with the wait too... Sucks for you guys in the States that you might have to wait till after Canada (yeah that was a shocker that we might actually get tech before you guys lol). I wish that the carriers here and the carriers there would just shut the f**k up take it and just release it already without the bloat. Let the bloat be optional download content if people actually frakin' want it.
I see this slowly becoming a rage thread... I like it... I'm starting to get sick of Samsung ignoring my attempts to contact them just because they don't want to make an announcement yet. More companies need to realize that there is a "Power User" segment out there that wants quick access to new tech. They need to put better methods of getting this out to them as well. Even if it means Samsung goes old school and skips carriers and sells direct. Yeah it would mean checking with both Samsung and your carrier of choice to make sure the support is there, but if you consider yourself one of these "Power Users" you should be doing that anyways.
Will I keep waiting for this phone? Yeah probably because I've been waiting for it since the initial announcement that there was going to be a GS2 back in December... The next question would be is my patience growing thin? Let's just say one bad step on the ice and it just might break
Yeah, I can't really blame Samsung since they've taken good care of Europe as far as this phone's release is concerned. (I'm much happier others get to enjoy it soon, rather than everyone having to wait).
It's just the power of the carriers in the US that really screws over the customers. There isn't a single change that is made to any phone, of any company, by the carriers that is beneficial to anyone.
It's just so ridiculous that you have to wait longer than is necessary, so they can fill the phone with purely useless software and modifications that just get in the way of the design intended by Samsung. And it's all purely for profit for the carrier.
I guess that's Greed for you. Instead of all the extra data plans raking in cash monthly for the carriers, they go well beyond that and squeeze every ounce of phone real estate with what is essentially more annoying advertising.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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(Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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Not for long though.. Once AT&T takes over.. thats it!
xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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I have never used T-Mobile. I heard some good things about pricing and call quality and such so I checked them out and based on their map in my area I have 3G coverage along the highway, in the middle of town and no signal what so ever everywhere else. I have nothing against T-Mobile really other than their coverage sucks in my area and that is really the only thing i care about in a carrier... well that and giving me an OS update in a timely manner.
Yeah, we will probably have a much longer wait as the US carriers take their time and **** up the design of the phone like they all did on the first Galaxy go around.
Here comes 4 or 5 compromised versions of the new Galaxy SII all of them lacking something that the others have, but all of them filled to the flipping brim with crap ware that doesn't do God Damn thing but annoy the hell out of you. Asshole US carriers, everyone of them sucks.
Just give me the phone like it is designed, and don't attempt to dazzle me with your bull ****.
i agree with all the complaints i've read in this thread. i'd like to see a more solid release date for the US as well besides Q3. looking at the release dates, Q3 reads like August for the US at the earliest.
i'm thinking i'm going to wait until late May/mid June in hopes for a more solid release date. but if there isn't one by then, i will likely get an import for AT&T after making sure it's completely compatible with their network. at that point i'll be able to afford dropping $600-$700 for it unlocked.
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xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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I'm thinking about going this route. Did you have to do anything special to get the phone to work, or did you just throw in your ATT sim card?
Just add the ATT (or Straight talk) Sim and you're good.
For a change I actually can't complain in canada. Pickrd mine up on launch yesterday
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Can't say I'm too surprised, but can a company be more ambiguous about a release?
Many sources are claiming that it will release on Sunday 9/18. I've called 3 different local att stores and my answers ranged from never heard of it to we are restaging our store on Sunday 9/18 for some new phones but the SGS II is not part of it
Commercials on TV are everywhere, Sprint customers already have their hands on it and we(ATT customers) are left with "coming soon" without even a concrete release date.
The phone is already on the verge of being late to the party(been out since May globally) so come on AT&T, and give us some information that is worth something!
Botched? AT&T will release whenever and still sell a ton. Only people like you and me really care when the release date is.
I just called att sales and and they gave me the same old story about keep checking online. I pushed the issue about wanting to talk to a supervisor since I have heard that the stores are stocking them as we speak. He came back on and said he talked to his store manager (confused here as when you call sales they connect you to a store?) and then said his manager confirmed that they are stocking them in the stores but STILL could not give a release date. He said that could mean a few days or a week/s until they receive the release date. I said sprint came out with it today. I also asked about pre-order and he said they are not taking pre-orders. I am JUST AS frustrated as you on this whole fing matter. Just give us a REAL TRUE RELEASE DATE. I am GLAD that I never run att software and don't rely on them for it to be released ever. Well I guess we will see on Sunday. I will probably stop by a local att store today also and push them for info. I will be back once I am able to during my lunch break.
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(1) It's AT&T
(2) It's not an Apple product.
Regardless how much potential GS2 can be, AT&T simply won't give a s**t because it will never sell as many as iPhone 5 can be.
Best friend works for AT&T and they haven't got them in stock yet. They haven't heard a release date yet either. I can say that seeing sprint release it has me EXTREMELY anxious for this damned thing on AT&T. He knows how much I want this phone and is going to let me know as soon as they get it in stock.
Okay I am calling MANY ATT stores local to me (at least I have about 18 local stores that I am in the process of calling now. I will continue to update this post whenever I get a chance. I am listing the phone number, whether they say if/when the release date is, whether they say the do/don't have it IN STORE NOW. So far this is the first couple I have called:
EDIT: I called alot of the local att stores and listed them all below. Kind of bummed that none other than 1 said with good confirmation that they hadn't heard of a release yet. Some that say possibly Saturday said that that USUALLY before a phone is released they will get inventory the day before. I had let them know that I had spoken to 611 earlier which told me stores were starting to get stock today for either this Sunday 18th or next Sunday (which was TRUE from my conversation with 611). So I guess ONLY Sunday we will NO FOR SURE one way or another...I had also mentioned what the 1 store told me that they had them. Sorry but I am so excited and upset with the not hearing anything from att.
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2RELEASE DATE
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949-553-9861
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949-764-0021
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YES (Said she guarantees it, close to inventory specialist)
714-327-0292
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714-258-8290
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714-965-4917
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MAYBE GET STOCK TOMORROW
714-541-0162
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MAYBE GET STOCK TOMORROW
714-573-0500
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714-596-2700
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NO
949-559-1457
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NO
949-699-0643
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NO
949-425-0600
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POSSIBLY TOMORROW
714-285-9800
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714-538-5700
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NO
562-402-2417
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NO
562-402-8700
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POSSIBLY SATURDAY
714-870-9912
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562-690-7522
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POSSIBLY SATURDAY
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Same thing happened with the release of the Captivate, T-Mobile got it first on a Thursday and rumors were that AT&T were releasing it that Sunday, no official announcement just a rumor. Went to AT&T that Saturday to ask about it and they said they only had cases for it but wouldn't expect it for another week, went across the street to Best Buy and they had it in stock!!!! Bought it and went back to AT&T with the Captivate in hand and asked to buy the case LOL.
Hopefully I'll have such luck tomorrow, if not then I'll be patient and get it Sunday, but if it's not out then Sprint may have my service!
Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
Same here actually Shammyh.
And don't forget that THIS phone is being released this weekend. They could be referring to this phone if they don't know the difference:
http://pocketnow.com/android/att-announces-budget-priced-huawei-imuplse-4g
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
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Lol me too! I used my upgrade at wal mart on christmas eve, they never took the upgrade off my account!
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
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Well he meant the regular users without a special plan. I bought my Captivate in July 2010but i used my wife's upgrade Contract..... my Captivate Died on Weds so I was forced to use my Mother-inlaw's contract. That is the only reason I have the ability to upgrade to the SGS II if released on Sunday. Other than that I would have 6 more months to wait.
I bought the Captivate, July 17, 2010, I have been eligible for an upgrade since July 18, 2011, YMMV.
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I bought the Captivate, July 17, 2010, I have been eligible for an upgrade since July 18, 2011, YMMV.
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I bought mine in september '10 and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until may of '12. What I'm gonna do though is use an upgrade from another line on my plan. This way I can get the gs2 now and have the option for the prime or even gs3 next year.
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Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Ya I got my first cappy in July 1007 model, then my wife in October 1010 model. Mine is the primary account holder and my upgrade was ready as of end of August. So ya I am ready.
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Well I got a bit more bad news for us waiting for the S2 on ATT. I just came back from my local Radioshack and a Samsung rep was there. He told me specifically that the Galaxy S II will be launched on AT&T in early to mid OCTOBER!! WTF
I may wait a few more months and see what comes out by the end of the year, they shouldn't have waited to release this on ATT this long!
Ok so at&t giving special treatment to some customers and giving them more than 1 upgrade per line every 2 years is just one more reason to dislike them as a carrier.
Why does at&t not give me special treatment? I have 4 lines on my family plan and also u-verse tv service.
Playing favorites is a sure way to piss some customers off.
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Well I got a bit more bad news for us waiting for the S2 on ATT. I just came back from my local Radioshack and a Samsung rep was there. He told me specifically that the Galaxy S II will be launched on AT&T in early to mid OCTOBER!! WTF
I may wait a few more months and see what comes out by the end of the year, they shouldn't have waited to release this on ATT this long!
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Thank god I decided to import my phone a week before the first announcement lol. That is just too long of a wait already without having any concrete dates. Makes me wonder if they are really holding it out to be sure it competes with something.
Poor americans. Drunk on credit, heading for a cliff, with the corporate greedheads telling you keep going they've got the GPS heading locked in. Guy above is probably right too with the comments about apple having interests it needs to protect. System is clearly broken. Dunno how, but the volk in europe are getting closer to pushing reboot. For that matter, we all gotta flash a new kernel, yellow triangle be damned!
Does anyone have any good intel as to when we may see the Titan at AT&T? Also, is there any new news as to when we might get Skype for WP7? Christmas is coming and I'm due for an upgrade!
Dave
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Does anyone have any good intel as to when we may see the Titan at AT&T? Also, is there any new news as to when we might get Skype for WP7? Christmas is coming and I'm due for an upgrade!
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Microsoft held a big WP7 event in NYC today. They showed off all the phones.
The only good tidbit out of the event (that we did not already know) was that the HTC Titan on AT&T would be priced around $200.
No release date was given by AT&T and the demo units were not even branded, which makes some reporters think it will be some time before we see units in the stores.
So, I am waiting also as I am eligible for an upgrade and will use it for the Titan!
Eligible for an upgrade myself, dying to get one.
I was at an ATT Corporate store yesterday looking at the Focus S and he said their releases were on the 1 and 3rd Sundays of the month. He thought it was probably going to be Nov 20th. He didnt have any exact knowledge of the date. He didnt think any other major ones would be released after that for the holidays.
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I was at an ATT Corporate store yesterday looking at the Focus S and he said their releases were on the 1 and 3rd Sundays of the month. He thought it was probably going to be Nov 20th. He didnt have any exact knowledge of the date. He didnt think any other major ones would be released after that for the holidays.
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Confirmed by AT&T today online that the Titan will be in stores November 20th.
happy Dance, cant wait. Too bad I am working that whole day
I have heard a LOT of people saying that their pre-orders were pushed back due to delays, but I pre-ordered with Gamestop recently. I called them today to ask if the Prime was still on track for the 19th, and they said it should be ready for pickup TOMORROW! Can anyone else who pre-ordered at GS confirm? Does anyone know why the dates are so different for different retailers.
Edit: Sorry, I was just trying to ask a question, didnt know this was old news.
Did you really need to make another Gamestop and release date thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374761
Mod, please close this thread.
I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
Here's me not holding my breath.
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That'd be nice, but for some reason i'm not feeling too optimistic about it.
all these ICS post without any proof are starting to get annoying. There is alerady tons of threads with people making claims they talked to someone at samsung, a rep, a secretary, anyone, and they have all been false. Dont get me wront i would love ICS to finally be released, but only because the kernal will be released soon after. im happy with UCLE3 right now. Also ICS getting pushed would have more to do with AT&T then samsung.
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I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
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I talked to a rep and they said June 21
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Updates get released when they are ready. This is not the launching of a new OS or IOS when they say what date it will be available so people know. Updates are not set on till a certain date then released, they are released when they are ready and its that simple. They can give estimates on the month of release based on bug fixes and how stable the rom is based on testing but I promise NO CARRIER or SAMSUNG (HTC MOTOROLA APPLE ETC) will ever sit on a finished update PERIOD! Its bad for business to sit on an update, but I know updates are slow but these companies didn't come this far by being stupid and not giving the majority of their customers what they want. They may be slow at giving it to us but they still deliver in the end. Nobody, I repeat nobody except AT&T and the people making the software update can tell anyone when the update will be released and the way they tell you is by pushing a notification to your unrooted stock Gingerbread Galaxy Note. Like the man above said these threads about releasing the update are getting outta control especially when they keep getting posted by people that obviously have no clue how the update process goes, when they know, we know, and that's exactly how it works. Do people really think these multi BILLION $$$$ companies carry on like teenagers and keep secrets and gossip about something as meaningless as an ICS update? The 22nd isn't even a Sunday LOL (people in the know, know what this means). OH I forgot, how does having an S3 make this Samsung employee qualified to know when updates will be released? Was he working at the AT&T booth in the mall or the local AT&T store? Most of these guys/girls cannot even handle a problem without calling the real AT&T for help so trust me the guy you talked to knows nothing.
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I talked to a rep and they said June 21
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My rep said on the 24th. Now who are we going to believe.
I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Just root and flash already. After that you won't have to wait for this nonsense anymore.
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I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Santa lies...he probably owns an iPhone. But the Easter Bunny said the official ICS is gonna hatch by end of June.
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I talked to a Samsung employee that had an S3 and told me they are supposed to release it June 22nd. But we will see.
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whats the significance of him having a S3, pertaining to a Note release?
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I talked to Santa and he said Dec 25th
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Hilarious lol
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I talked to a rep and told him I wanted an official ICS phone by June 22nd. He asked if I wanted a S3.
I'll believe the release date rumors, the day it is actually released. Been hearing new dates every week.
TELUS: JULY 13
TELUS is very consistant at communicating the “expected in market date” of when various devices will receive an OS update. Right on track is a refresh of their “Device OS Upgrade schedule” and those with the Samsung Galaxy Note, BlackBerry Bold 9790, Nokia Lumia 800, and LG Optimus 7 can be excited as your devices will be graced with a new OS soon:
Android:
HTC Desire HD OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is July 25th
LG Optimus LTE OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is Mid July
Samsung Galaxy Note OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is July 13th
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is Late July
Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 OS 4.0 “Expected in market date” is August (was previously Late July)
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ok ill explain myself. haha
so i work for att and last week they had Samsung come in and show us some features of the note and how to sell them better. The rep from samsung had a galaxy note with the official ATT ICS update on it already. He told me it was coming around the time the s3 is going to be relased. But who knows its seems ligit because he does work for samsung.
I talked to the CEO just now and he said it is already late tonight. He will do it tomorrow morning
I just called the president, he's sending me the official download link now.
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Updates get released when they are ready. This is not the launching of a new OS or IOS when they say what date it will be available so people know. Updates are not set on till a certain date then released, they are released when they are ready and its that simple. They can give estimates on the month of release based on bug fixes and how stable the rom is based on testing but I promise NO CARRIER or SAMSUNG (HTC MOTOROLA APPLE ETC) will ever sit on a finished update PERIOD! Its bad for business to sit on an update, but I know updates are slow but these companies didn't come this far by being stupid and not giving the majority of their customers what they want. They may be slow at giving it to us but they still deliver in the end. Nobody, I repeat nobody except AT&T and the people making the software update can tell anyone when the update will be released and the way they tell you is by pushing a notification to your unrooted stock Gingerbread Galaxy Note. Like the man above said these threads about releasing the update are getting outta control especially when they keep getting posted by people that obviously have no clue how the update process goes, when they know, we know, and that's exactly how it works. Do people really think these multi BILLION $$$$ companies carry on like teenagers and keep secrets and gossip about something as meaningless as an ICS update? The 22nd isn't even a Sunday LOL (people in the know, know what this means). OH I forgot, how does having an S3 make this Samsung employee qualified to know when updates will be released? Was he working at the AT&T booth in the mall or the local AT&T store? Most of these guys/girls cannot even handle a problem without calling the real AT&T for help so trust me the guy you talked to knows nothing.
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I hate to pull a 'well actually', but Im going to do so.
Carriers are well known for sitting on updates even tho they are ready. There are a number of reasons for doing so, marketing being a big reason. By controlling WHEN a release is pushed, they can market other phone models or actually advertise big OS updates, often times making the carrier sound like THEY actually did all the hard work and their customers should appreciate the OS update as a good deed by the carrier.
Anyone remember the Samsung Captivate? Gingerbread? How long did it take to come to the Captivate 'officially'? The rumour, although no one for sure can say, is that AT&T sat on this update and decided never to release it. Samsung then decided to take it upon themselves and provide the update via Kies Mini (PC software with the SOLE purpose of updating firmware via your PC rather than the carrier delivering said update). It was shortly after this that AT&T began making the update available over the air, after Samsung forced their hand. Likely, all of this was to push Captivate users to buy a newer model phone with LTE (which means higher priced data plans).
AT&T typically pushes firmware updates and new phone releases, both on Sundays. Dont ask me why, I just know that is what they 'usually' do. However, to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe they are planning something different.
Anyone remember the Lumia 900 (flagship Windows Phone 7 made by Nokia)? This was announced as officially coming out on Easter Sunday (Easter in the states) but since AT&T wasnt actually open, they had to sell it on Monday. Someone at AT&T forgot to look at a calendar.
The S3 is supposed to be available at AT&T June 18th according to this article (end of the second to last paragraph in the first section). This article was written today.
The Galaxy S3 was intended to be released at the end of June along with its competitors AT&T, which will get the new phone on June 18, and Sprint, which has a release date of June 21.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/352985/20120616/samsung-galaxy-s3-release-date-verizon-canada.htm
Read the entire paragraph, for the context of the use of the word 'intended'.
Now, the 18th falls on a Monday which has me scratching my head because everything being reported is simply not the way AT&T usually does things. Even more funny is, no one seems to actually KNOW when the S3 will be available and if the ICS update is supposed to coincide with the release of the S3 (again, quite frankly, I dont know why AT&T would care, they are both not really related to each other), and no one knows when the S3 will be available for AT&T customers, how can anyone determine the release of this firmware?
So, my opinion? We are looking at either June 17th (tomorrow) or June 24th if Samsung and AT&T keep their promise of Q2. BUT, I have heard that ICS was delayed for all carriers because Samsung is fixing a kernel bug, code that exists in ALL variants of the Note that caused hard bricks when flashing roms on variants containing the quadcore processors found in the international Note. I know the way I said that was likely confusing so let me clarify. The kernel code exists in all variants of the Note. However, the code does NOT affect the dual core processor variants of the Note. But Samsung is fixing said code in all variants of the Note, their are a number of potential reasons why that I wont go into here. This bug was fixed back at the end of May but this ate into the carrier testing period so it was delayed. I could totally be wrong here but Im guessing July 1rst, which would be close enough to Q2 that I doubt anyone could really ***** about it not being in Q2.
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An official ICS update means source code!. Many of us are waiting for an official update not specifically so we can flash it but so that we can begin to see some real rom development start happening beyond themes and generic tweaks. Not that I dont appreciate the work that has already been done but I am really curious as to what the Note is 'really' capable of.
My rep told me the 20th.
My rep knows more then your rep.