Photon 4G was just announced for Sprint: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motorolas-4-3-inch-photon-4g-brings-tegra-2-kickstand-magic-to/
Similar specs to Evo 3d in some areas but some intriguing differences too like Tegra 2 chip and it being a world phone rather than US only and having a kickstand. There is also reference to accessing a larger screen through a doc which I'm wondering if is something like the Atrix's laptop-like doc (which I love as a concept).
Not heard anything good about Blur but then there are a lot of Sense-detractors too. Anybody know if you can turn off Blur and install another launcher on Motorola phones without bootloading?
Yea I don't like the design, Blur or VGA front facing cam. And to think...I was going to get this phone if HTC didn't reverse their decision on locked bootloaders. HA!
Neither one is perfect for me
I really like HTC so I'm getting the 3D but if I had my way I would take the new EVO 3D without all the 3D stuff
I preordered a 3D
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Photon 4G was just announced for Sprint: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motorolas-4-3-inch-photon-4g-brings-tegra-2-kickstand-magic-to/
Similar specs to Evo 3d in some areas but some intriguing differences too like Tegra 2 chip and it being a world phone rather than US only and having a kickstand. There is also reference to accessing a larger screen through a doc which I'm wondering if is something like the Atrix's laptop-like doc (which I love as a concept).
Not heard anything good about Blur but then there are a lot of Sense-detractors too. Anybody know if you can turn off Blur and install another launcher on Motorola phones without bootloading?
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Well being that its already been shown that the CPU/GPU combo in the 3D is hands above the combo with tegra 2 in the photon, not even an option for me.
There is one feature that would have me choose the photon over the e3d..... 'free' tethering on the laptop dock.
This would set them apart from att with this device and would be the best offer in the industry. If you are willing to buy the phone and laptop dock, they could let you use it on only the phone's data plan. That is win!
But it won't happen.
Ask yourselves that, if the laptop dock use was free, would you be much more likely to buy it?
Decent phone, nice specs but not for me. Plus who knows when it will release. Sprint announced the 3D in March and we won't get it until the end of June so available sometime in Sept. No thanks, the 3D will do everything I want and I prefer Sense over Blur.
I'll take HTC over Moto..
I think the EVO-3D with Myn's "Warm TwoPointThree" ROM will be the best phone for 2011, besides the quad core Nexus-Three
I was going to skip the E3D for some other Android offering and I think I may have found my next phone. It looks good but I have to get confirmation that the bootloader won't be locked down. The specs look pretty awesome and I can't wait until they hack it to work without a laptop dock.
Awesome.
The main reason I'll get this over the E3D is because it's a world phone.
OP you should copy and paste the specs of the phone in the 1st post so people don't ask spec questions.
Photon has 16gb internal storage vs e3d 4gb. I use internal for apps only so 4gb is enough. The Tegra 2 isn't all its Cracked up to be especially against the newer qualcomm chips.
Photon has international support so that could be important for some.
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I think I have decided against the Evo 3D. At this point in time we can expect that the boot loader for the 3D will come encrypted with the possibility of being unlockable at a later time. Motorola has pretty much encrypted everything they have released in the past 6 months except the Xoom. So my initial expectations are that the Photon is also going to come with an encrypted bootloader. Which means I more than likely will not be getting this phone. We know pretty much for certain that the SGS2 will come with an unlockable bootloader. To me the choice is very easy. SGS2 here I come.
Seems similarly specced to the atrix..and no 1080p video recording bio
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I was going to skip the E3D for some other Android offering and I think I may have found my next phone. It looks good but I have to get confirmation that the bootloader won't be locked down. The specs look pretty awesome and I can't wait until they hack it to work without a laptop dock.
Awesome.
The main reason I'll get this over the E3D is because it's a world phone.
OP you should copy and paste the specs of the phone in the 1st post so people don't ask spec questions.
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4.3-inch qHD display
1GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
1GB of RAM
16GB of built-in memory
Gingerbread
MotoBlur
Front and rear facing cameras. Rear is 8mp
Dedicated camera button
Mini USB and HDMI ports
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motorolas-4-3-inch-photon-4g-brings-tegra-2-kickstand-magic-to/
I just saw this and it seriously made me re-think my decision to get the 3D. I've been looking around for benches pitting the Tegra 2 against the 3rd gen Snapdragon. It also has much more internal memory, I believe the 3D is 4gb. My biggest reservation is that Moto isn't very hacker friendly and, from what I've seen, that isn't likely to change any time soon.
But it has been a while since sprint and MOTO played nice
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I was going to skip the E3D for some other Android offering and I think I may have found my next phone. It looks good but I have to get confirmation that the bootloader won't be locked down. The specs look pretty awesome and I can't wait until they hack it to work without a laptop dock.
Awesome.
The main reason I'll get this over the E3D is because it's a world phone.
OP you should copy and paste the specs of the phone in the 1st post so people don't ask spec questions.
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I think most people already saw the specs when the phone was rumored a few weeks ago. There was a thread on it somewhere.
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4.3-inch qHD display
1GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
1GB of RAM
16GB of built-in memory
Gingerbread
MotoBlur
Front and rear facing cameras. Rear is 8mp
Dedicated camera button
Mini USB and HDMI ports
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motorolas-4-3-inch-photon-4g-brings-tegra-2-kickstand-magic-to/
I just saw this and it seriously made me re-think my decision to get the 3D. I've been looking around for benches pitting the Tegra 2 against the 3rd gen Snapdragon. It also has much more internal memory, I believe the 3D is 4gb. My biggest reservation is that Moto isn't very hacker friendly and, from what I've seen, that isn't likely to change any time soon.
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Its been done and the snapdragon really looked superior to the tegra 2
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*SNIP* Photon has international support so that could be important for some.
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This is what I'm curious about... Does it have a SIM card? The phone is CDMA & GSM? It would be damn nice to have a good phone to use in Japan if I could just plug in the SIM card from my japan phone
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I think I have decided against the Evo 3D. At this point in time we can expect that the boot loader for the 3D will come encrypted with the possibility of being unlockable at a later time. Motorola has pretty much encrypted everything they have released in the past 6 months except the Xoom. So my initial expectations are that the Photon is also going to come with an encrypted bootloader. Which means I more than likely will not be getting this phone. We know pretty much for certain that the SGS2 will come with an unlockable bootloader. To me the choice is very easy. SGS2 here I come.
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lol, so much wrong in that statement. BTW, it looks as if toast has already looked and saw the 3D can be rooted, so no problem anywhere as far as locked down.
Atrix with a kickstand.... I'll pass.
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lol, so much wrong in that statement. BTW, it looks as if toast has already looked and saw the 3D can be rooted, so no problem anywhere as far as locked down.
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He might be right in the statement he made. The few 3D's that have been seen around are review samples and are s-off. No one is certain whether the initial batch will be encrypted or not due to the fact they were already manufacturing them when HTC decided not to encrypt the boot loaders. We might have to wait for an OTA to get them un-encrypted, won't know until they release. As for Moto, he is correct, they do their best to lock down everything.
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If this has been asked before I apologize and mods can close this. Now that we have s-off, root, custom roms, kernels, etc. Aside from the 3d which can wear off, is the EVO 3d worth it? There has been alot of debate for and against and I just can't see keeping OG EVO just to be pushing it to the max to run the stock rom of the EVO 3D. Thinking on making the plunge in two weeks. If there is a thread for this already I apologize again and close this.
Apples to oranges. I get almost every new phone that gets released on Sprint. The 3D is effect is pretty cool. More memory and faster processor are big plus. And I like the screen better.
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Apples to oranges. I get almost every new phone that gets released on Sprint. The 3D is effect is pretty cool. More memory and faster processor are big plus. And I like the screen better.
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Ok, I played with a co-workers 3vo and once I saw storage and memory I was pretty much sold.
Storage and memory are only a snip of what it offers. The dual core processor flies! The screen is bright and vivid. It runs apps seamlessly, and video is crystal clear. Its a huge step up from the 4G I think.
I know when I was thinking about getting this phone, all I could focus on was, "Well, i dont really care about 3D, so why get the phone?" Truth is its so much more than just 3D, its an over all step up from the 4G, with 3D capabilities.... good luck on the plunge!
I've had my photon since October. I've been an avid HTC fan until I picked up this phone. Sold I was. I've never looked back.
However, I really like the new evo lte. I have serious problems when it comes to new toys that are easy to obtain with something as simple as the swipe of magical plastic.
That being said...
My theory on Motorola and the rumored Photon Q is as follows;
Motorola has said, according to an article on either engadget or AC, that the quad core Tegra 3 with lte will be ready Q4. The fall CTIA is October 9th - 11th. I'm gonna say we will either see an event a week before or an event at CTIA in October. Things just seem to be coming together like a good game of tetris.
Now I really don't wanna burn and uograde when I'm expecting to see something amazing from Motorola. I'm also betting Motorola picks up the ubuntu project which I also think will be shown off in October.
That's a lot of speculation... Lol
So, I'm thinking I'm gonna keep the photon and buy a dock and a keyboard and a mouse and hook it up to this 73inch monster sitting in my living room. Only problem with that is the reviews saying that webtop just sucks a big set.
Questions...
Is webtop that bad?
Is it worth it for somebody who might find it useful?
Is all the functions of the device still there? Text and calls and what not.
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
Tegra 3 is ****e, though, and I can't imagine the LTE variant will be any better. Snapdragon S4 trounces it in very meaningful ways like browser performance, battery life, and audio quality. I desperately wish the international/open market One X had S4 instead of Tegra 3 (Though I still wouldn't buy it because the One X has no SD slot... Whereas the Evo LTE does). If I had the option, you bet I'd buy the Evo LTE over whatever Moto churns out at the end of this year. Next year, under Google, Moto might have a shot - and open bootloaders. This year I for one have been burned enough.
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Well what is webtop good for? What specific uses?
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
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Well what is webtop good for? What specific uses?
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Useless if you are locked but if you unlock it has near unlimited potential. ICS Webtop on the other hand is a joke and is a move in the wrong direction. ICS Webtop should be an extension of "Mirroring Mode" and Moto should replace the current Webtop with a proper desktop environment. If Ubuntu and I can run a proper desktop environment on an Atrix/Photon why the hell can't Motorola. Here's a write up as to why stock Webtop and ICS Webtop are full of fail.
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Useless if you are locked but if you unlock it has near unlimited potential. ICS Webtop on the other hand is a joke and is a move in the wrong direction. ICS Webtop should be an extension of "Mirroring Mode" and Moto should replace the current Webtop with a proper desktop environment. If Ubuntu and I can run a proper desktop environment on an Atrix/Photon why the hell can't Motorola. Here's a write up as to why stock Webtop and ICS Webtop are full of fail.
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Wow, they are moving backwards
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Well what is webtop good for? What specific uses?
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Citrix web apps. And if you use it for work, and your company has a draconian device policy that makes it easier to authorise one device and use it on multiple screens rather than actually use a laptop.
Apologies for neglecting the Ubuntop/Webtop Plus dev. Have yet to try it thanks to being stuck on locked Moto devices myself. Looks great, and I can think of many more uses for a full Linux distro in my pocket.
I actually like what they're doing with the new webtop, though I wish it was more powerful and could run the phone apps in a window like the old webtop. There's a lot of merit in taking advantage of Android's built in scaling, and having a separate UI with widgets and so on for larger screens is a great idea.
Ultimately I wish webtop was ChromeOS, since that would make the most sense from a Google product and service consolidation perspective.
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Looks like tegra 3 won't be out till 2013
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tegra 3 is out now, tegra 3 + (lte support wont be out til late this year, the phones are already being made and software tested. ALL the high end sprint phones will have s4 chips this year.
I'd be ok with a quad core S4 like that lg superphone is rumored to have.
So with webtop just blowing chunks, can you get ubuntu to run on a stock photon that's locked? Or is unlocking mandatory?
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i really doubt it will have the quad core, sprint isnt gunna one up the evo a few months after by having such a much nicer phone.
and ubuntu isnt even out yet so its not possible at all right now
Like Loki said, his Ubuntop makes webtop into a beast. Your performance will compare with the original netbooks in some ways, but in another it just makes your device infinitely more versatile than just a netbook. Even if you don't extend webtop, basically imagine a Chromebook that uses Firefox instead of Chrome. The only other native application would be the Cell phone window that lets you use your cell phone in an IM like form.
It's not all bad, it's a heck of a lot better for nothing. Before I changed webtop I mostly read webcomics, social sites and used Google Docs. After Lokifish's improvements I now have Bluefish, Abiword, Gnumeric, a real desktop experience that doesn't sacrifice anything from the phone. It is only too awesome to have your phone move seamlessly from being a handset to a miniature computer without any skips in calls or text messages. Since I chose to integrate Google Voice I can text from the web without anyone being the wiser.
so. ...... what can we do now top make whip or get ubuntop now? ... and how do i do the hdmi hack? before people start saying search function or google. i trust people on xda..... and the search function using the app on my phone always says no results no matter what i put in
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Ubuntu actually being a full fledged mobile os is pure speculation right now unless I'm missing recent news. Canotical was vague on the subject. It very well could be talking about some sort of official webtop-esk support.
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so. ...... what can we do now top make whip or get ubuntop now? ... and how do i do the hdmi hack? before people start saying search function or google. i trust people on xda..... and the search function using the app on my phone always says no results no matter what i put in
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HDMI hack....if your talking about Nebtop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404625
Loki's Ubuntop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281528
CCallahan said:
HDMI hack....if your talking about Nebtop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404625
Loki's Ubuntop: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281528
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for that dang locked bootloader:/
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Webtop sucks. Useless. Has really specific use case scenarios and very, very little beyond that. Good news is Moto know this, and have made some head way towards fixing it with the new ICS webtop on the RAZR, which will presumably be included on the Photon's ICS update. It's basically the ICS tablet interface with properly scaled apps and a separate home screen layout from the phone. Quite cool.
Tegra 3 is ****e, though, and I can't imagine the LTE variant will be any better. Snapdragon S4 trounces it in very meaningful ways like browser performance, battery life, and audio quality. I desperately wish the international/open market One X had S4 instead of Tegra 3 (Though I still wouldn't buy it because the One X has no SD slot... Whereas the Evo LTE does). If I had the option, you bet I'd buy the Evo LTE over whatever Moto churns out at the end of this year. Next year, under Google, Moto might have a shot - and open bootloaders. This year I for one have been burned enough.
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Would you like some coffee with your negativity?
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Would you like some coffee with your negativity?
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Lmaoooo
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Which would you buy and which do you think will offer more roms. I'm available for an upgrade now.
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I had the same choice yesterday . I honestly picked the S3, HTC's UI gets boring and old after a while and i have an HTC phone right now. I wanna try something new and that 2gigs of ram is hard to pass on.
That's what I was thinking plus the larger screen is an added bonus on the s3.
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I wouldn't want to miss my 64gb microsd and an exchangable/extendable battery. So I'd go for a SIII. What a shame that HTC removed both.
Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
Both phones are very good. If you are on sprint then its a given, just go with the evo. If your not then you have more room to play. However I would recommend the evo over the Samsung GS3. First Sprint gives true unlimited data and already has the evo, not the GS3. Giving props to the GS3 for the slightly bigger screen is a no-no. It is only a tenth of an inch bigger. Besides the bigger the screen, the more cpu/gpu power used. Speaking of that the evo has a snap dragon krait @ 1.5 GHZ dual core while the Exnos is @ 1.4 GHZ dual core. The Krait is a fairly popular CPU and is extreamly fast and responsive for its generation. It also in many other devices with have a large development behind them, therefore the CPU will be better tuned and potently have a higher overclock the the exnos. If you are concerned about ram, why should you be? The evo can easily run all applications that can be thrown at it including games. For the record virtual ram is available now.... (ya it wont be as fast enitialy, but what if they were to mount it to the rom instead of the standard class 5 micro sd card...) And if you enjoy gameing your in luck Htc's one line is the first 3rd party company to exclusively be accepted by Sony's playstation, allowing you to be able to play some exclusive playstaion games. The evo, in my personal opinion has a far superior build quality then Samsung's cheap plastic mat finish. When it comes to Customer care, support and updates, htc will surpass samsung. There are a lot of cool new software features such as S Voice on Samsung though, although a lot of people say they are lousy, and just another selling point to compete with Apple's precious Siri app. IF you are conserned about the batterlife, the evo has a larger battery then the GS3, and even though its non removable, it last a long time. I own it and im a power user. I cant stop using it. If you look at the popular devices section you will see mainly samsung devices, although the evo is on there and shurely will reach #1 as its original, the htc evo 4g did ,witch was the #1 device for well over a year. Development will pretty much be even though, maybe the evo a little beter, having a starting chance. There is so much more info that i could talk about but im starting to ramble on and on. When it comes to picking a device I look for the best device weather it is a brand name or not and the amount of potential development it will receive. That being said I pick the evo and would recommend it as the best Smarthphone on the market to anyone looking to buy a new phone! I know this may seem very one sided, but i did my research before choosing between the two (yes these are the exact to phones i was comparing before making a final decision). I own many samsung products and am not saying the GS3 is bad, just not the best choice. Give me a thanks if I have helped anyone with this matter, and if not, be mature and do not flame me or others providing information to help the general public!
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Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
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It does have a micros sd card holder under the plastic portion under the top back of the phone that covers the camera, NFC, and all other antennas. You don't have to be tethered to a charger all day like many other smart-phones because the batter life is fantastic. Have you ever heard of Sedio? They are making a battery case for the evo right now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667613 (all thanks go to the OP!) Sense is so well optimized that you forget its even there. All of the features you loved remain. It feels like AOKP/AOSP but with the option of adding sense widgets!
Hi5josh man you need to do some research. First off they will both share the krait s4 processor that you think so highly of. Second of all the S3 has a bigger battery than the Evo LTE. Hey listen if you like the Evo LTE thats cool but dont post information unless you get it correct (no offense). One more thing honestly the whole Sony thing is a gimmick they didnt announce or show any games yet. Dont expect any ps1, or 2 games to be played on your EVO that would just defeat the purpose of the Playstation Vita. HTC will probably get some Homebrew games from third party developers through Sony. Samsung has already had a game center so not missing much there at all.
Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
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Would have made more sense to release the dual core world wide but my guess is the tegra is significantly cheaper.
Also some people already have lte unofficially and millions will have it within a few months based on the roll out schedules.
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Are you really asking why they didn't hold off on releasing a phone for 2 years? lol I'd never buy stock in your company.
And LTE is already becoming available in some areas.
With that said, people without LTE coverage can still enjoy a pretty badass phone even without LTE. Do you think they'd sell it for less if they removed the LTE antennas, or something?
If you don't like the phone because it has LTE technology that you can't use yet, don't buy it. I hear the iPhone is great for people who have no desire for advanced technology.
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Settle down, take a breath. No need to get all butt hurt. Its definitely a great phone. But I won't see LTE for a long time. Like quite a lot of others. So a quad core would have been a way bigger hit. Then when LTE was out to MAJORITY of the market and they had time to figure out quad and LTE comparability....bang, they're all dead. Btw I had an iPhone...I know better.
You don't really need it quad core is not well develop yet just like duel core last year suck till ICS, just look at the pocket now review of the GS3, is exynos which is one of the best processor and it seems like Samsung rush it out, but to each their own, I'm happy with this duel core
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Good point.^
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/06/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-initial-benchmarks-and-hands-on-impressions/
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EVO LTE test same thing I've out scored on quadrant highest was 5120 and test on smartbench there is slight difference I just ran it 4 times
Edit: trivial benches don't make or break anything so its just a thought the extra gig is nice though still have no major issues on my EVO LTE so I'm sticking with my UK s3 pre order as well ..
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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Next year? Nah... Its been done already
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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Yeah the MSM8960 3D edition is a quadcore S4 processor with a 3D chip built in... It was announced in February
and thanks to the architecture it runs cool as ice
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Anyone else wonder why they released this as the LTE when there really isn't any LTE, and the majority of people won't get LTE for a long time? Just don't get why they didn't bang it out as the quad core version. Then two years from now when LTE actually becomes available to the masses, and they figure out how to make 4 cores and LTE work together....release the mack daddy?
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I'll have LTE in the second half of the year, which is coming up soon. Just saying...
Why would they put a WiMax chip in the phone?
The device would have to be thicker to accommodate a radio that is not integrated into the chipset.
WiMax radios are worse on battery than LTE radios.
WiMAx isn't being expanded and will be unsupported by the EOL on the phone. Bringing in another WiMax device would mean they have to maintain the network longer - remember that its not only you that enters a contract, but Sprint as well - they have to maintain their network for use.
You could say QuadCore and 3G only - but really? Come on? A non 4g super phone? that would be insane.
I would also assume that our purchase of the device helps fund the roll out to an extent.
I think you will be surprised how fast you get 4G - if your like me, you probably won't get it while you are on this device because I change to often, but it will come and it will come quickly.
I know I'll have LTE before I'm done with this device, and if this thing is this nice now, when I upgrade again in June next year I'll be blown away!
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I can understand why people would like quad-core, but I'm extremely pleased with our dual cores (coming from the OG) esp when the biggest difference between the two chips is that the nvida chip is based on the older A9 Cortex and being 40nm, compared to our Snap Dragons which are based on the newer A15 Cortex and been reduced down to 28nm!
Essentially its just a smaller and super efficient chip versus and an older and less streamlined one.
Don't get me wrong, the quad would be nice, but after seeing serious heat issues on the HOX international version, I'm sure this older design has something to do with it, so I'm glad we got the cooler (literally) and streamlined chip, which would give us access to Sprints LTE... At somepoint
By some point next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Qualcomm come out with a quad core based off the 28nm size, and then THAT will be beast!
If you read all of that, you deserve a cookie!
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If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
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If that's the case my EVO LTE won't get too hot right wrong you push any phone it will get hot infact it gets as hot as the epic touch some points for no good reason as well but besides that point .
Both are good but it seems there's some sort of odd anger still brewing over who's is better faster etc who gives a crap u want a quad get it u want dual get it but these things u speak of are tested via Qualcomm if I remember correctly the e3d adreno 220 on paper beat the sgs2 when qualcomm did the testing we all know what happened after that ..
I'm not choosing quad or dual I may go phone crazy and get both idk but what I do know is they both beat the crap out everything else out there screw tech data I can spew that too real world they both ate great buys great phones
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Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here ), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
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Well of course anything you use that's electronic is bound to get hot over an extended time with use.
When I wrote this, I started remembering when the first round of Xbox 360s came around, and the processor was (correct me if I'm wrong) 40nm, and because it got so damn hot, and nothing to help cool it down, the failure rate on the first Xboxes was through the roof. When they later cut the chip down to the 32nm size, and installed some more ventilation, the chip never got nearly as hot, and the failure rate went down.
This isn't saying that are phones are Xbox 360s (give it a few more years, and I'm sure we may be able to play those types of games on here), but going from a bigger to smaller processor, overall the chip shouldn't get nearly as hot as the quad core.
YMMV of course. This is probably aimed more at the person whose getting around 2 1/2+ days on their phone right now.
Edit: This was to roughly show the difference in the chip by size and design. I love that ours are smaller and more efficient, and I wouldn't care if they did have quad core on here instead. Cause....
This phone is the TRUE SUCCESSOR to our beloved OG and I'm glad we got it in our hands finally! Regardless of what processor we have inside
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I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
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I agree I gotta not smoke when I get up anymore haha they are both great here's my issue .
I don't need a new phone I want one but not on contract I have several on contract now EVO.LTE being one sgs2 the other and my brother's two I pay all of them so I know my sister is getting the sgs3 us I'm leaning international just to give it a shot if I don't like it try to swap it for the us one while she's sleeping or something lol ..
But really I think they all are great none of you or myself are wrong going with any of these things I think as said in other threads android on android hate is hot right now thanks htc and Sammy lol ..
Xbox well I went through two first gen 360s before I gave up for a year and got a great gaming pc
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Lmao.
Yea I understand. I wasn't picking favorites between the two, I'd be more than happy to have the quad, but then there would be no LTE once Sprint rolls it out. So with LTE in mind, thats why we received the dual core because it works with it. Plus its smaller and just as fast and as long as its a major upgrade from the OG, its money well spent.
I do agree that the Android on Android hate should calm down esp now that we (all of Android) are being shafted by Apple. Hopefully over the next couple of years, Android OEMs will sort of form an alliance to protect themselves from Apple, like the move Google did by giving HTC some patents to use. The more we attack each other, the more divided we will become, and the easier it will be for Apple to sue for stupid crap and ultimately win.
I wish I could get a gaming PC, but its just a lot of money for me, and the plus side of the 360, like most consoles, is that the games will be playable without any hardware upgrades for years. Yea it won't look nearly as good, or play faster, but it works and that's enough for me
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IDK, maybe just skeptical because I never seen any wimax. Crap, my state barely seen it. We have a tiny little spec on the map.
Here is the correct answer to your question. If they had not made the phone LTE capable you would have had an outrage of people complaining that the phone isn't "future proof" and cant run on LTE when it come to their area. "how can it be a flagship phone if it even can't connect to the new networks?" That would have been all over the forums. Also, apps and the system alone doesn't utilize quad core processor efficiently if at all. Just like quad core computers have been around for a looong time, it took even longer for programs to utilize quad cores, and most of the programs you use every day on a pc aren't even touching the other two cores (assuming you have a quad core pc). This is why the benchmarks are equal (if not better) on the S4 vs Exynos quad because the apps/system isn't designed to take advantage.
Having the transformer prime with the Tegra3 I have to say I'm a tad disappointed.
It has been at least somewhat proven that the s4 is superior in many bench mark tests. And this chip is based off of a newer more efficient platform.
Really just do yourself a favor and imagine that the lte has 4 core.
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I don't know why people are so eager to get a quad-core processor in their phone. The software barely takes advantage of two cores so there would be very little gain to adding two more.
I just wanted to get some input about what everyone thinks about the 3rd party development concerning these two phones. I currently have, and still love, my original Evo 4g. I have it rooted with CM7 installed.
I'm on Sprint, and I love being able to use the free wifi hotspot built into CM7 without paying a ton of money to sprint. I like having emulators and playing all my old favorite games on the TV.
The difference in the screens doesn't bother me much, but I figured the extra power of the GS3 would be very beneficial with the way I use the phone. On the other hand, I've heard custom mods and development aren't near as good with the GS3.
So the main question:
Should I go for the raw power of the GS3, or the more modding and developer friendly LTEVo? I really don't want to lose my free wifi hotspot... I use it all the time and I'm not sure if I can get it with the GS3.
The free hot spot you can get when you root with any phone, so that's a non issue.
My understanding is the phones are about the same, the galaxy has more RAM it seems, but the processor is about the same. You should consider build.quality. do you like how the EVO looks and feels or the Sammy? I don't like the plastic feel of the Samsung phones myself. It's a personal choice.
Also the front buttons on the galaxy are ugly, and u like dedicated camera button on the EVO. And kickstand.
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You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
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Sg3 had more RAM
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More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
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My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
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I'm thinking the same but usually upgrades are a pain cause so many differences and carriers, I think sprint got the best track record with upgrades but maybe is because they don't have so many phones as Verizon and att, plus this time around the device is the same @ll over the us carriers so it should be easier, I'm getting the gs3 on tmobile since I already have tmobile but I'm keeping my EVO and wait for lte and the only thing that I hate about my EVO 3g doesn't cut it sometimes, when the evo came out I had not problems with 3g and that's all I used cause 4G will kill battery quick, to the op they both are great phones I think you should try the gs3 and if you prefer sense too much(even tho you said you like cm7) then get evo lte, btw development on the gs3 will be probably better then evo only because is the same phone in all major us carriers so all those developers will make roms for each on carrier and just changed radios and what not for the other carrier so it will be amazing and that was what Myn was talking about when he choose to get the GS3
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I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Your decision should come down to maybe a handful of things. Probably the biggest knock against the Evo LTE is the battery. You have the freedom to access the S3's battery whenever you please without having to remove screws. For some people, that's a dealbreaker and they would shell out for the S3. Likewise, others would prefer the dedicated camera button.
At the end of the day, the decision is yours. I'm not really sure if I ever see myself buying a phone not made by HTC. Their products are simply amazing. I don't have anything against Samsung, it's just I love the three flagship Evos I have owned. I haven't found a reason to abandon them.
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
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Im running cm9 on my Evo Lte now it's almost perfect no video camera yet. I think the SG 3 already has official cm support because Samsung already released source, HTC hasn't yet. Im pretty sure once source comes out the evo will get official support too. So to me it's which phone you like better, they're so close spec wise.
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I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
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This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
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You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
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More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
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I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
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Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
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I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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Lol that's a kick I'm the nuts, 2gb of ram!! AMD a small print disclaimer saying 1gb is to run touchwiz smoothly lol screw SG3
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nkchri2 said:
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
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I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
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Hold your horses here...
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of these "more RAM=1337 ph0ne" comments that are parroted endlessly everywhere. No Android phone has ever had 2GB of RAM before... The bottom line is that its benefits remain to be seen. From what we do know, it really shouldn't help at all (given the way Android utilizes RAM). Maybe with Android 5 or 6 (lol) down the line? Who knows.
What I do know for sure right now is that RAM it will precisely 0 effect on its emulator performance. That all comes down to developer optimization for particular chipsets. At the level Android phone emulators are currently operating (not to mention the basic systems they're emulating), RAM is the last thing that will help. Now a future PS2 emulator might be a different story, although the S4 is not nearly powerful enough to run it at anywhere near acceptable levels.
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
IMO the big difference to consider between these two phones is software, plain and simple.
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
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I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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I wasn't trying to directly compare... I was just stated that for reference. As far as the extra ram being used up by touchwiz, then that just means there is one more huge reason to keep using Cyanogen like I am now. Goodbye touchwiz, hello extra 1Gb RAM!! Even if current emulators and apps can't take full advantage of the extra RAM, I think it still does make it more future proof than the LTEvo. And even if you can't unlock the other 1GB from touchwiz, it still will make the phone faster and less laggy with dedicated RAM for the UI.
As far as the benchmarks, I'm not really sure where you got that information. A link would be nice = D
I'm not a dead set fan of either phone. I have thoroughly enjoyed my original Evo. I just want to pick the better phone for how I want to use it. So far, I haven't seen anything to sway my choice towards the LTEvo. The better/removable battery and the extra RAM are pretty big.
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So far from this post and more research, this is what I've found.
Evo 4g LTE:
- Looks like the rear facing camera is better
- Better display
- It's not all plastic
- Kickstand!
- Hardware camera button
- Doesn't rely on proprietary accessories (a la S3 MHL cable)
- Beats audio
Galaxy S3
- Extra RAM (even if it is dedicated to Touchwiz, that is just a big chunk less of the original 1GB being used for the UI, which means more free RAM)
- Same phone across all carriers, hopefully leading to more/easier 3rd party development
- More camera functions (continuous shooting / best shot)
- Removable battery
- Longer lasting battery
- 32 Gb option available
- .6 MP larger front facing camera
- Better multitasking than the LTEvo (no reloading)
- S-Voice
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
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Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
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How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
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I missed the two post concerning my comments on the battery life. The S3 having a way better battery was the wrong way of putting it I guess. Yes, it's only 100mAh more, so it has a 5% larger battery. I guess the point is the S3 must be much easier on its battery. You mentioned gsmarena...
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This compares the two phones and lists the S3 having 2 hours and 30 minutes longer talk time the the LTEvo. I have seen a few other websites also showing a clear advantage in the battery life with video and surfing as well, I just can't find that link and gsmarena just lists talk time numbers. If I do I'll repost.
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@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
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Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
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Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
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Dude you are in the EVOLTE forum, we are all users and fans of this phone. What do you expect? Ofcourse we will lean towards the evo more. Both are good phones, but honestly we like the evo way more otherwise we wouldnt have bought it and actively discuss and praise it. Stop trolling with the gs3 is better crap.