I know this sounds overly simplistic but, How does the flyer's pen work?
Is it pressure based capacitive stylus?
HTC has stated that they will be releasing the APIs for HTC scribe technology. Will this developer release allow the the pen's drivers to be baked into other tablets?
I think you activate a button on the side of the pen to use it. It's probably charges the nib to write on the screen.
It's an educated guess.
As for being able to write on other screens....well, I'll let better informed ppl answer that one.
It works the same as a graphics tablet. The Pen itself is passive (unpowered) and would not have any drivers associated with it. The display has a digitised layer which the pen interacts with. The digitiser layer would require drivers and is not present on any other phone/tablet as yet.
It has a battery so much, in some way, be powered. Check YouTube unboxing vids
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HazzBazz said:
It has a battery so much, in some way, be powered. Check YouTube unboxing vids
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Wow! You are right. Very weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejP5aBVlueQ
Hello.
Flyer's pen is great, but it is working only in two applications - Notes and Scribe.
I want to use it in Autodesk Sketachpad and Mapple paint.
Is there any way to make it work as usual stylus in other applications?
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
It actually can be used to select UI elements, but it seems HTC wants to restrict it to writing and drawing. In the "kid mode" app, when painting tab is selected, you can use the pen to select other tabs and tool icons. However, after clicking on a tab, pen no longer works on UI elements.
By the way, pen also works in PDF viewer, Polaris Office, Reader, Picture gallery and kid mode app. I hope more developers will discover its potential.
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sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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I believe they've merely announced that they plan to.
I am not sure if I have misunderstood what the thread is about... But the pen can be used as a stylus if you turn it around and use the blunt end - it will scroll the screen and register taps/clicks etc.
Be careful though as the finish on the pen is not smooth and if used to scroll and drag it can scratch the screen and/or the screen protector.
If I have got the meaning behind the OP's thread wrong apologies, it is late (here) and I'll get me coat
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Yes, the other end of the pen can be a stylus, Get a screen protector, and wrap the other side of the pen with a film protector likeinvisishield or bodyguardz.
wow ! thanks for enlighten me !!!
gibson7 said:
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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It has not been released.
It has only been anounced. There is no telling when it will actually be released. The longer they take though the more it will hurt HTC.
I've heard of someone getting the conductive rubber tip from a capacitive stylus and fitting it over the end of the pen. That would work to protect the screen.
hi
just wondering. can i use my digital drawing pad pen on my HTC evo view/flyer?
it has the same stuff, like two buttons and all, with the nib, battery etc.
should it work? evern though its not made for htc?
loni90 said:
hi
just wondering. can i use my digital drawing pad pen on my HTC evo view/flyer?
it has the same stuff, like two buttons and all, with the nib, battery etc.
should it work? evern though its not made for htc?
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What's it do when you try? Who makes the drawing tablet? I know my Wacom pen doesn't work.
just ordered a htc view, and waiting for it to arrive. havent got the pen with it as far as know.
but i got a drawing pad, its not wacom - dont know what it is though...
but since its not working for you, i guess it will not work for me either....
The pen technology is N-Trig. Wacom is a better but not whats available to us. Wacom has no battery. N-Trig uses a battery. You most likely have an N-Trig pen, but there's also a good chance it could be some proprietary pen also. You won't know till you try unless you can find out what you've already got.
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
i dont know about samsung s-pen, but htc ST C400 almost dosn't work on prime ^(
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I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
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Of course it doesn't work. Different technologies, the galaxy note uses a wacom digitizer which is pressure sensitive and compactive thus it can us a fine point stylus. While the TFP uses a now standard compactive digitizer it can only use those fat point stylus. But since the TFP's digitizer is made by atmel, Atmel themselves said they were going to release a stylus called maxstylus which is a fine point stylus and is compatible with atmels digitizer.
I was wondering if the "wacom technology" is a software thing or real hardware parts (like on the wacom tablets)
as far as i know the wacom pens send the info to the surface, the surface itself doesn't recognise pressure. If "just" software reads out the capacative infos shouldn't it be possible to get the drivers and drawing software from the note onto the prime?
I'm just thinking out loud here, i have no hard information. but I am very interested, if a port would somehow be possible ^^
Just to address some stuff here...
A Wacom digitizer is a combination of hardware and software technology that exists both in the tablet and the stylus. The sensors in the tablet screens are sensitive to the nibs of digitizer pens.
The Amtel MaxStylus has already been confirmed to not work on the TF201. The chip that is in the TF201 would only support the pen on a 7" screen or smaller.
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
BUYMECAR said:
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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I use a Amazon capacitive, less accuracy but works, Samsung isn't a normal stylus that's why they named it "S Pen"
anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
Capacitive stylus vs. Active Digitizer
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: (link) this is how it works
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
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Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
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dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm