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Hello.
Flyer's pen is great, but it is working only in two applications - Notes and Scribe.
I want to use it in Autodesk Sketachpad and Mapple paint.
Is there any way to make it work as usual stylus in other applications?
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
It actually can be used to select UI elements, but it seems HTC wants to restrict it to writing and drawing. In the "kid mode" app, when painting tab is selected, you can use the pen to select other tabs and tool icons. However, after clicking on a tab, pen no longer works on UI elements.
By the way, pen also works in PDF viewer, Polaris Office, Reader, Picture gallery and kid mode app. I hope more developers will discover its potential.
gibson7 said:
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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I believe they've merely announced that they plan to.
I am not sure if I have misunderstood what the thread is about... But the pen can be used as a stylus if you turn it around and use the blunt end - it will scroll the screen and register taps/clicks etc.
Be careful though as the finish on the pen is not smooth and if used to scroll and drag it can scratch the screen and/or the screen protector.
If I have got the meaning behind the OP's thread wrong apologies, it is late (here) and I'll get me coat
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Yes, the other end of the pen can be a stylus, Get a screen protector, and wrap the other side of the pen with a film protector likeinvisishield or bodyguardz.
wow ! thanks for enlighten me !!!
gibson7 said:
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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It has not been released.
It has only been anounced. There is no telling when it will actually be released. The longer they take though the more it will hurt HTC.
I've heard of someone getting the conductive rubber tip from a capacitive stylus and fitting it over the end of the pen. That would work to protect the screen.
guess too earlier to look\ask around..the possivilities using that pen on pad other than flyer, once the application is ported to general android pad... curious how difficult technically ?
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I was under the impression that Scribe was dependent on hardware too, not just software. Does the flyer have a special digitizer? Can anyone else confirm?
figurine said:
I was under the impression that Scribe was dependent on hardware too, not just software. Does the flyer have a special digitizer? Can anyone else confirm?
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Yes, the Flyer has an n-trig active digitizer
my naieve thoughts are....as long as screen is the same.....pen...we can get the pen without getting a flyer.
unless there are some ckecking/funtioning apps put in the pen along with its hardware, then we will have to deal with.....
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Guess you didn't catch what the other posters said. There is a special piece of hardware in the screen of the HTC Flyer called an N-Trig Digitizer that allows the pen to work. I know there is a Win7 tablet on the market that also uses the same digitizer so the pen will work on that device as well.
Short answer, the pen will only do what it does if your device has a digitizer in the screen. Any sort of app has nothing to do with it. It is purely hardware based.
i see. so screen is different.
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Is there any alternative app/ pen that would work similar?
Milhouse82 said:
Is there any alternative app/ pen that would work similar?
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errrr ...a stylus !?
the flyer pen even use a battery, to use it you have to press a small button so it sends electricity to the digitizer to detect the differentiation between itself and your fingers
jeandujardin01 said:
errrr ...a stylus !?
the flyer pen even use a battery, to use it you have to press a small button so it sends electricity to the digitizer to detect the differentiation between itself and your fingers
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Ok I deserved that! I actually bought a stylus and then returned it because I am looking for something that would allow me to make notes on documents and something that is a little more precise than my finger. I am thinking that I will just have to get a Flyer and the GT10.1 really does not serve this purpose.
the Samsung stylus is a little sharper than the regular stylus everyone is selling
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S100CBEGSTA
maybe that + Evernote = WIN !?
Just FYI.
The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet also ships with a n-trig pen.
I have one of these devices and would love to have the functionality (instant editable screenshot) on my tablet.
So if anyone could dump the app from their flyer I would be willing to testdrive it
Alfaspyke said:
Just FYI.
The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet also ships with a n-trig pen.
I have one of these devices and would love to have the functionality (instant editable screenshot) on my tablet.
So if anyone could dump the app from their flyer I would be willing to testdrive it
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It doesn't work like that.
I have a Flyer and a Tab. In GB the Flyer's pen did as you say and captured a screenshot that you could then draw on using the pen. I've upgraded my Flyer to HC and the pen now behaves differently. You can use the pen as a stylus (interact with the screen/widgets etc), but you can also draw on the screen having taken a screenshot/make a new note etc using a special hardware 'button' in the Flyer casing (screenshot attached - you can only just make out the button you click on to activatwe the pen functions - where the pen tip is).
You'd therefore need both the hardware and software capability to use it.
http://www.amazon.com/Pogo-Sketch-P...TF8&coliid=I1XRLCVVWQFS7R&colid=22IJDUUE6WTD7
This is what I use.
hi
just wondering. can i use my digital drawing pad pen on my HTC evo view/flyer?
it has the same stuff, like two buttons and all, with the nib, battery etc.
should it work? evern though its not made for htc?
loni90 said:
hi
just wondering. can i use my digital drawing pad pen on my HTC evo view/flyer?
it has the same stuff, like two buttons and all, with the nib, battery etc.
should it work? evern though its not made for htc?
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What's it do when you try? Who makes the drawing tablet? I know my Wacom pen doesn't work.
just ordered a htc view, and waiting for it to arrive. havent got the pen with it as far as know.
but i got a drawing pad, its not wacom - dont know what it is though...
but since its not working for you, i guess it will not work for me either....
The pen technology is N-Trig. Wacom is a better but not whats available to us. Wacom has no battery. N-Trig uses a battery. You most likely have an N-Trig pen, but there's also a good chance it could be some proprietary pen also. You won't know till you try unless you can find out what you've already got.
It appears that the Atmel maXStylus will be compatible with the touchscreen controller of the TFP. maXStylus claims to be able to sense a 1mm stylus tip.
"Atmel has announced an active stylus chip that delivers "accuracy and linearity of +/-0.25mm" on a capacitive touch screen from a 1mm diameter stylus tip, claimed the firm. The chip is installed in the stylus and works with touch screens using any of the firm's maXTouch E series touch controllers." - Electronics Weekly
The Prime uses the Atmel MXT768E controller, which should be compatible. It just needs the appropriate software to implement the functionality. "Devices with suitable screens require only a software update and no hardware changes." - Electronics Weekly
It also appears that ICS will have native support for their stylus. "As a co-engineering partner to Microsoft, the mXTS100 supports Windows 8 and the recently launched Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. " - EE Times
I'm a noob, so can't post links, but one can go to Atmel's site and easily find the info.
Now we just need a manufacturer to build them for a reasonable price.
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maXStylus mXTS100 for Handsets and Tablets
The maXStylus mXTS100 provides advanced active stylus capability for touchscreen controllers based on Atmel's maXTouch® E Series and future maXTouch technologies. This union simplifies touch system hardware and software while providing a state-of-the-art, inexpensive touch and stylus solution
Here you go. found a good article discussing it and provides a video of how well it works.
www.gizmag.com/atmel-maxstylus/20470/
I want this soo bad. I could totally replace my aging hp tc4200 tablet pc and my old wacom pad with this lil baby. Fingers crossed it makes it to the market!
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Its really interesting, I'd love to know from Asus if this Stylus willl be supported.
I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
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they say its as simple as adding the software support for it. no hardware changes needed. Of enough people showed interest, it could happen. As it would add another functionality to the Prime.
wow this would be amazing! The only reason I bought a tablet is because the primes keyboard dock gives it that added functionality for productive uses. This would make it even better in that regard.
demandarin said:
they say its as simple as adding the software support for it. no hardware changes needed. Of enough people showed interest, it could happen. As it would add another functionality to the Prime.
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So would this mean each app would need its own support for the stylus?
Also I am guessing this isn't useable as a regular capacitive stylus?
Wow this is pretty huge news...it certainly looks like the specs are designed to be comparable with Wacom. It's a great size for a handwriting slate...and maybe if one day we could Shallot windows and onenote...lol getting way ahead of myself... I'm not sure from the write up if it will requires a manufacturer firmware update, or the required software can be included in an app and installed...but very cool.
Let's not let this thread fade too quickly...
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Well, ASUS made the Supernote app. Maybe they have that stylus in mind already.
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Holy...crap. I hope this sees the light of day! This would make the TFP the best tablet by far. I've always been jealous of HTC's implementation. I'll definitely be keeping up with this and hope we get it! This made my night. Thanks for the post.
My understanding is that the stylus will work throughout the ICS operating system as a capacitive stylus.
It's funny though, Atmel says that the MXT768E should be very accurate with even a 2mm stylus. I haven't had very good luck on my Prime with the three 6mm styli I've tried. It's my first tablet, so maybe my expectations were too high.
Perhaps the existing software can't handle the additional sensor points on the screen properly. Writepad Stylus shows a refresh rate of 30-50 Hz in debug mode, but Atmel's spec states a refresh of 150Hz.
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My understanding is that the stylus will work throughout the ICS operating system as a capacitive stylus.
It's funny though, Atmel says that the MXT768E should be very accurate with even a 2mm stylus. I haven't had very good luck on my Prime with the three 6mm styli I've tried. It's my first tablet, so maybe my expectations were too high.
Perhaps the existing software can't handle the additional sensor points on the screen properly. Writepad Stylus shows a refresh rate of 30-50 Hz in debug mode, but Atmel's spec states a refresh of 150Hz.
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I think until we see ICS and thus fully supported drivers, we won't see what this thing is capable of. It also sounds like it's not something that ASUS specifically has to support--the stylus should just be supported once ICS hits. Now, as far as compatible software, I have no idea--will any notetaking/drawing app just automagically support the additional precision?
Can't wait to find out more. As someone mentioned earlier, with both a keyboard and a high(enough)-resolution stylus, this thing could be a notetaking beast.
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A pressure-sensitive stylus that could work on the Prime's display?
Sounds like a mini-sized Wacom Cintiq on a budget...
Some apps already support pressure sensitive stylus.
Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, Adobe photoshop Touch / idea , Picsay Pro and others are said to support it.
Just thoses 4 ones are more than enough to justify buying a pressure sensitive stylus.
When does this come out?
So I've been trying to find out when this stylus is going to come out and I can't find the answer anywhere. I've tried contacting Amtel, but there's no way to do that and there's nothing online about the release date. I've got the Transformer Prime along with the keyboard attachment and this was going to be my final piece for it. I want to use the photoshop touch app with it because it would be freakin amazing. So how do we get these guys to release it? I'm willing to pay $100 for it if need be.
Motorola Xoom2 Stylus any good for Prime?
Hi guys
while waitiing for my to be finished repairing Prime I was surfing the web and came across the Motorola Xoom2 Stylus.
Don't you think that would be something for the Prime too?
A link to an unboxing of the stylus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_XKBNxK3EQ
To me it looks as if the Stylus was soft and pointed, so everything I need to take notes with the Prime.
What do you know about this?
anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
freakboy13 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
Capacitive stylus vs. Active Digitizer
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: (link) this is how it works
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
Vikingpus said:
This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
gypsy214 said:
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm