It appears that the Atmel maXStylus will be compatible with the touchscreen controller of the TFP. maXStylus claims to be able to sense a 1mm stylus tip.
"Atmel has announced an active stylus chip that delivers "accuracy and linearity of +/-0.25mm" on a capacitive touch screen from a 1mm diameter stylus tip, claimed the firm. The chip is installed in the stylus and works with touch screens using any of the firm's maXTouch E series touch controllers." - Electronics Weekly
The Prime uses the Atmel MXT768E controller, which should be compatible. It just needs the appropriate software to implement the functionality. "Devices with suitable screens require only a software update and no hardware changes." - Electronics Weekly
It also appears that ICS will have native support for their stylus. "As a co-engineering partner to Microsoft, the mXTS100 supports Windows 8 and the recently launched Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. " - EE Times
I'm a noob, so can't post links, but one can go to Atmel's site and easily find the info.
Now we just need a manufacturer to build them for a reasonable price.
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maXStylus mXTS100 for Handsets and Tablets
The maXStylus mXTS100 provides advanced active stylus capability for touchscreen controllers based on Atmel's maXTouch® E Series and future maXTouch technologies. This union simplifies touch system hardware and software while providing a state-of-the-art, inexpensive touch and stylus solution
Here you go. found a good article discussing it and provides a video of how well it works.
www.gizmag.com/atmel-maxstylus/20470/
I want this soo bad. I could totally replace my aging hp tc4200 tablet pc and my old wacom pad with this lil baby. Fingers crossed it makes it to the market!
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Its really interesting, I'd love to know from Asus if this Stylus willl be supported.
I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
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they say its as simple as adding the software support for it. no hardware changes needed. Of enough people showed interest, it could happen. As it would add another functionality to the Prime.
wow this would be amazing! The only reason I bought a tablet is because the primes keyboard dock gives it that added functionality for productive uses. This would make it even better in that regard.
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they say its as simple as adding the software support for it. no hardware changes needed. Of enough people showed interest, it could happen. As it would add another functionality to the Prime.
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So would this mean each app would need its own support for the stylus?
Also I am guessing this isn't useable as a regular capacitive stylus?
Wow this is pretty huge news...it certainly looks like the specs are designed to be comparable with Wacom. It's a great size for a handwriting slate...and maybe if one day we could Shallot windows and onenote...lol getting way ahead of myself... I'm not sure from the write up if it will requires a manufacturer firmware update, or the required software can be included in an app and installed...but very cool.
Let's not let this thread fade too quickly...
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Well, ASUS made the Supernote app. Maybe they have that stylus in mind already.
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Holy...crap. I hope this sees the light of day! This would make the TFP the best tablet by far. I've always been jealous of HTC's implementation. I'll definitely be keeping up with this and hope we get it! This made my night. Thanks for the post.
My understanding is that the stylus will work throughout the ICS operating system as a capacitive stylus.
It's funny though, Atmel says that the MXT768E should be very accurate with even a 2mm stylus. I haven't had very good luck on my Prime with the three 6mm styli I've tried. It's my first tablet, so maybe my expectations were too high.
Perhaps the existing software can't handle the additional sensor points on the screen properly. Writepad Stylus shows a refresh rate of 30-50 Hz in debug mode, but Atmel's spec states a refresh of 150Hz.
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My understanding is that the stylus will work throughout the ICS operating system as a capacitive stylus.
It's funny though, Atmel says that the MXT768E should be very accurate with even a 2mm stylus. I haven't had very good luck on my Prime with the three 6mm styli I've tried. It's my first tablet, so maybe my expectations were too high.
Perhaps the existing software can't handle the additional sensor points on the screen properly. Writepad Stylus shows a refresh rate of 30-50 Hz in debug mode, but Atmel's spec states a refresh of 150Hz.
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I think until we see ICS and thus fully supported drivers, we won't see what this thing is capable of. It also sounds like it's not something that ASUS specifically has to support--the stylus should just be supported once ICS hits. Now, as far as compatible software, I have no idea--will any notetaking/drawing app just automagically support the additional precision?
Can't wait to find out more. As someone mentioned earlier, with both a keyboard and a high(enough)-resolution stylus, this thing could be a notetaking beast.
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A pressure-sensitive stylus that could work on the Prime's display?
Sounds like a mini-sized Wacom Cintiq on a budget...
Some apps already support pressure sensitive stylus.
Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, Adobe photoshop Touch / idea , Picsay Pro and others are said to support it.
Just thoses 4 ones are more than enough to justify buying a pressure sensitive stylus.
When does this come out?
So I've been trying to find out when this stylus is going to come out and I can't find the answer anywhere. I've tried contacting Amtel, but there's no way to do that and there's nothing online about the release date. I've got the Transformer Prime along with the keyboard attachment and this was going to be my final piece for it. I want to use the photoshop touch app with it because it would be freakin amazing. So how do we get these guys to release it? I'm willing to pay $100 for it if need be.
Motorola Xoom2 Stylus any good for Prime?
Hi guys
while waitiing for my to be finished repairing Prime I was surfing the web and came across the Motorola Xoom2 Stylus.
Don't you think that would be something for the Prime too?
A link to an unboxing of the stylus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_XKBNxK3EQ
To me it looks as if the Stylus was soft and pointed, so everything I need to take notes with the Prime.
What do you know about this?
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Just found a new stylus by wacom,bamboo stylus
http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?lang=en
Looks promising, should be due out this month. It has the thinnest nib of any stylus on the market, and since I take alot of stylus notes (maple paint and genial) I think this is a must have for me.
I have ordered it from their site, delivery is within 14 days, i am currently using the Boxwave one but like this one because it is the size of an average ball point pen which I would prefer. Hope it works as well as or better than the Boxwave. I went for it because of wacom's reputation.
Can be ordered from here:
http://eu.shop.wacom.eu/Bamboo/Bamboo-Stylus/Bamboo-Stylus?c=9149
ordered a dagi one as the bamboo looks pretty pricey for.....a possibly better designed rubber nub. I use a wacom tablet and know they make some nice stuff, but it doesn't seem to be much different than the cheaper alternatives out there.
The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
lacrossev said:
ordered a dagi one ....The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
Think will order one, will give a review of it when received, but probably be a few weeks before I get it
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
bdangol said:
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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Its not anything that will work like a wacom tablet + their stylus. This is just a regular capacitive stylus with the nub at the end of it, it just so happens that wacom makes it. Theres no interactivity between the stylus and the device other than the contact of the nib. So yea, it will work fine with the TF101, as will all capactive styli on the market today.
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tonyz3 said:
I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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lacrossev said:
It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
I ordered the DAGI too.
I'll also provide feedback once I receive it.
mias1 said:
That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
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Well the way I see it when u are handwriting your movements should just follow your first stroke. I tried writing quickly and found the dot to be useless because I'm writing so fast I'm just going by muscle memory instead of trying to aim it
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I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
Discusbass said:
I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
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I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
HasC said:
I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
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first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
danielcmacedo said:
first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
HasC said:
Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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That looks awesome, im going to use it for marking up pdf drawings in the field. If i can keep somewhat a straightish line its a winner.
@ Delecron:
You can draw lines using Repligo reader or EZpdf which also allows you to draw in freehand if necessary.
HasC said:
Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
tonyz3 said:
Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Had an email from the developer a couple of days ago where he apologised for not getting back to an email that I had sent him when he first put the software on the market where I requested from him a few changes such as having the undo and other tools at the top instead of having to select them via the menu option. He has done this and made a few other changes that enhance the software e.g. the little arrows on the bottom corner on the right to position the writing area etc.
Hopefully he should be releasing the full version fairly soon because he also advised that the reason for late response to emails was because he is hard at work improving the software before release which in his estimation is a couple of weeks.
I am checking for software updates daily for Tabnotes as I too can see the potential of this program and it is definitely my first choice for producing hand written notes on my tablet.
Too costly, even though the quality is there I just can't pay that much. Probably going to buy a few of these.
UPDATE:
Atmel has posted on their facebook that it *may* not be compatible. However, until one of these are physically tested with a TF201, we cannot know *for certain* what the truth is. ONLY THEN can we 100% confirm/deny it's compatibility.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=378757848808058&id=121682197848959
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EDIT: Didn't find any related posts til now, my bad: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435094
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The skinny:
This thing is due out in the next few months, and should be directly compatible with the Transformer Prime... it will offer active-digitizer-like-performance from Atmel - the guys who made the TF201 touchscreen driver chip.
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First off, some background....
The ASUS Transformer Prime is shipped with Atmel's MXT768E touchscreen chip - Atmel's flagship latest-n-greatest chip to date.
SOURCE: http://www.chipworks.com/en/technic...con-inside-the-asus-eeepad-transformer-prime/
MXT768E chip details:
http://www.atmel.com/microsite/maxtouch_eseries/mxt768e.asp
Key Features
Narrow stylus identification and tracking
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The maXStylus:
http://www.atmel.com/microsite/stylus/?source=redirect
The Atmel maXStylus mXTS100 is supposedly going to offer digitizer-like power in a highly sophisticated stylus... that's due the first quarter of 2012, and will require Android 4.0
SOURCE: http://androidandme.com/2011/11/new...e-could-be-revolutionized-by-atmel-maxstylus/
According to Atmel...
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/p...tegory_id=170&family_id=701&subfamily_id=2407
The maXStylus™ mXTS100 active stylus is designed to provide high-performance stylus capability for maXTouch™ E Series touchscreen controller solutions. The mXTS100 and maXTouch controllers together simplify touch system hardware and software while providing a state-of-the-art, inexpensive touch and stylus solution. This configuration simplifies the hardware since it requires only a single indium tin oxide (ITO) sensor that interfaces with maXTouch to detect finger touches and stylus proximity. Through the system driver and serial interface, the system host controller interfaces with the maXTouch chipset for touch and stylus data. The simultaneous touch and stylus capability is called multiSense functionality.
The mXTS100 uses capacitive sensing to detect an active maXTouch sensor presence and responds with its own signals to indicate location, pressure, button click timing and other information. The maXTouch controller receives stylus information through the sensor while also detecting finger touches. After the maXTouch controller detects a stylus presence, special algorithms activate to process the stylus data to provide high linearity, accuracy and resolution. Further processing provides excellent palm rejection, resulting in a smooth and comfortable stylus writing experience.
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This is analog to Wacom-only stylii working with Wacom tablets. In this case, it's Atmel-only stylii working with touchscreens powered by Atmel E-series chips... which is inside the Transformer Prime...
We may never see a Wacom digitizer come to the Transformer Prime... but we have a pretty damn good alternative coming down the line... just check out the mXTS100's specs... 1mm resolution, automatic palm recognitiion, 140hz sampling rate...
http://www.atmel.com/microsite/stylus/?source=redirect
I will be keeping my eye on this for sure. I would love to have better accuracy for sketchbook. I use a new trent stylus now and its nice, but this would be optimal.
I have a jot pro for now, and this looks more promising.
That looks awesome!
Any idea how much this is will cost?
I'll be keeping an eye on this one also. Looks interesting.
Was talked about in the existing stylus thread
I would hardly call this a predictions, it is pretty much a forgone conclusion it will come. How many other tablets have ICS of which this requires?
Anyway its the one I'm holding out for.
Lock-N-Load said:
Was talked about in the existing stylus thread
I would hardly call this a predictions, it is pretty much a forgone conclusion it will come. How many other tablets have ICS of which this requires?
Anyway its the one I'm holding out for.
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It was talked numerous times in other thread, but still nice to have a thread dedicated for it.
Also, it was confirmed to come. They are suppose to have small beta testing starting this month. Anyone in this forum able to get their hand on this?
Either way, this means product is mostly finalized and they are just doing sample testings to fix very minor problems and find the optimal pricing for it. Given there is a high demand in fairly limited market at this point(only 4.0 tablets that has Atmel chip), i wouldnt be surprised to see this priced fairly expensive.
I saw the video and besides the slight lag, it looks very promising.
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Good Job, OP. Please keep updating this thread if new information becomes available.
Posting to keep track of this thread and to say that this looks awesome.
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So, if this true (and I hope it is) then we we could see greatly improved accuracy from the touch screen but, since I'm new what other benefits does this bring?
Lock-N-Load said:
Was talked about in the existing stylus thread
I would hardly call this a predictions, it is pretty much a forgone conclusion it will come. How many other tablets have ICS of which this requires?
Anyway its the one I'm holding out for.
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Buried amongst the Targus and Jot stylus posts, this Atmel stylus is a lightyears ahead of them - it deserves it's own topic.
If you look extra carefully, this video shows a 10.1 Tablet with a "Verizon" logo on it, being used with the Atmel stylus with Repligo PDF editor
Either a Xoom or Samsung Tab, can't really tell as I don't own either...
Tech Faded said:
So, if this true (and I hope it is) then we we could see greatly improved accuracy from the touch screen but, since I'm new what other benefits does this bring?
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Quoting Atmel:
Provides a highly accurate stylus capability, with 1.0mm/1.5mm/2.0mm stylus tip options and sensitivity to 256 pressure points.
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Also features palm protection - HUGE benefit
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/p...tegory_id=170&family_id=701&subfamily_id=2407
This is amazing, I've had eyes on it since before I decided on the prime. Would be a huge benefit to have.
Damn, just got my Jot
d1ez3 said:
Damn, just got my Jot
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you can return it if you want
I own a Jot pro - even bought the extra little discs to go along with it. I'm keeping mine in the interim as the Jot is still pretty darn good. Once I get the Atmel I'll do a direct comparison and if it's better will be selling my Jot Pro.
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you can return it if you want
I own a Jot pro - even bought the extra little discs to go along with it. I'm keeping mine in the interim as the Jot is still pretty darn good. Once I get the Atmel I'll do a direct comparison and if it's better will be selling my Jot Pro.
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Yeah, I might if this thing comes out soon and is as good as they say. Writing with the Jot is better than a regular stylus but it's still not accurate. I also can't seem to get palm detection working
keeping an eye on this. looks like this thing will cost a premium......
drstk said:
keeping an eye on this. looks like this thing will cost a premium......
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Probably $50+, but worth it for me. I almost returned the Transformer Prime to buy a Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet because it included a digitizer pen. Hand-written notes is one of the biggest benefits to me of a tablet.
Everyone's use is different, but an active digitizer is *heaven* when you're always jotting notes or drawing a lot.
I did/do a LOT of detail sketches, and did them mostly on a Wacom tablet interface before I had my Prime. Having the ability to lift the stylus and still have it register really is an extreme joy... I didn't realize how much I had grown fond of that feeling. It's very subtle, but when you use it for hours a day it is SOOO nice! And the absolute, guaranteed accuracy is sublime. With out it there's a subtle annoyance of always, constantly worrying if your stylus is where you want it...
Even if this thing were $75 I'd buy it...
You may not have to wait ..
I have been lurking for a while now without something to add.
I am new to tablets and the Prime is my first one. I too am challenged buy the capacitive screen writing / drawing details. I have been trying out different stylus types with no great success for me. So I started to investigate for a capacitive ACTIVE stylus and like you have come across the Atmel devices. I believe that may be the solution I’m looking for.
My investigation has found that the Xoom 2 tablet uses the Atmel chips and has an active stylus. I have ordered a Xoom 2 Active stylus from the UK to test my theory out. To test, one will need a Prime with ICS installed. (ICS supposedly fully supports an active stylus). My test stylus will not show till the of this week, the 20th.
I have a challenge for any UK Prime user or any Verizon customer. If you are in the UK, would you please stop by a store with your Prime and try out a Xoom 2 stylus on the Prime? In the US, if you are a Verizon customer, stop by a Verizon store with your Prime and test out the XyBoard 10.1 stylus.
Please report back results.
If this Motorola stylus works then, in the US, we can order from UK or wait for Motorola to release the Xoom in the US sometime this month (1/18 ??). (I understand that the XyBoard 10.1 stylus cannot be purchased separately ).
I do have one other active stylus to check out that may work. I’ll write about that one once we know about the Xoom stylus.
Who is willing to take up this challenge?
cfl.htc.hd said:
You may not have to wait ..
XyBoard 10.1 stylus.
Please report back results.
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I would definitely be interested as well..
The XyBoard is also at Best Buy, which may also have the stylus on demo possibly.
http://upcomingverizonphones.net/droid-xyboard/
However, the 3mm tip on the XyBoard's stylus is almost 3 times as big as the quoted 1mm Atmel stylus tip:http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ries/Motorola-Stylus-with-Precision-Tip-US-EN
3mm is pretty big, more like a sharpie tip than a ballpoint pen tip.
However, it is nonetheless cool it might be compatible!
cfl.htc.hd said:
You may not have to wait ..
I have been lurking for a while now without something to add.
I am new to tablets and the Prime is my first one. I too am challenged buy the capacitive screen writing / drawing details. I have been trying out different stylus types with no great success for me. So I started to investigate for a capacitive ACTIVE stylus and like you have come across the Atmel devices. I believe that may be the solution I’m looking for.
My investigation has found that the Xoom 2 tablet uses the Atmel chips and has an active stylus. I have ordered a Xoom 2 Active stylus from the UK to test my theory out. To test, one will need a Prime with ICS installed. (ICS supposedly fully supports an active stylus). My test stylus will not show till the of this week, the 20th.
I have a challenge for any UK Prime user or any Verizon customer. If you are in the UK, would you please stop by a store with your Prime and try out a Xoom 2 stylus on the Prime? In the US, if you are a Verizon customer, stop by a Verizon store with your Prime and test out the XyBoard 10.1 stylus.
Please report back results.
If this Motorola stylus works then, in the US, we can order from UK or wait for Motorola to release the Xoom in the US sometime this month (1/18 ??). (I understand that the XyBoard 10.1 stylus cannot be purchased separately ).
I do have one other active stylus to check out that may work. I’ll write about that one once we know about the Xoom stylus.
Who is willing to take up this challenge?
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dont have my prime yet, but i am def interested.
Is there a way to do handwriting on the 10.1? I picked one up for our QC department and it'd be very hand if they could handwrite notes on their documents.
EDIT: Will be using Polaris office unless there is something better.
yes you can, there's a whole thread about pens on the accesorie section, with an app you can add to adjust the sensitivity.
Excellent, thanks for the heads up.
I highly recommend FreeNote. It is one of the few apps I have found that works the best for me.
Even though I think the tab is the best tablet on the market right now, the one thing its not very good at is handwriting. Even with the sensitivity app it's not as good as the transformer or the (sorry) ipad. It's a hardware problem; the handwriting lags behind the stylus, and it doesn't have palm recognition (so if you touch anything to the screen, it registers as a touch). If this was your purpose in getting the GT10.1 (and this is the only reason I'd say this); I'd suggest returning it for the transformer (original, I don't know anything about the prime).
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
i dont know about samsung s-pen, but htc ST C400 almost dosn't work on prime ^(
fifasarajevo said:
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
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Of course it doesn't work. Different technologies, the galaxy note uses a wacom digitizer which is pressure sensitive and compactive thus it can us a fine point stylus. While the TFP uses a now standard compactive digitizer it can only use those fat point stylus. But since the TFP's digitizer is made by atmel, Atmel themselves said they were going to release a stylus called maxstylus which is a fine point stylus and is compatible with atmels digitizer.
I was wondering if the "wacom technology" is a software thing or real hardware parts (like on the wacom tablets)
as far as i know the wacom pens send the info to the surface, the surface itself doesn't recognise pressure. If "just" software reads out the capacative infos shouldn't it be possible to get the drivers and drawing software from the note onto the prime?
I'm just thinking out loud here, i have no hard information. but I am very interested, if a port would somehow be possible ^^
Just to address some stuff here...
A Wacom digitizer is a combination of hardware and software technology that exists both in the tablet and the stylus. The sensors in the tablet screens are sensitive to the nibs of digitizer pens.
The Amtel MaxStylus has already been confirmed to not work on the TF201. The chip that is in the TF201 would only support the pen on a 7" screen or smaller.
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
BUYMECAR said:
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
soulctcher said:
Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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I use a Amazon capacitive, less accuracy but works, Samsung isn't a normal stylus that's why they named it "S Pen"
i originally posted this in the general section and then realized it made more sense here. i have an old motion tablet that has a stylus, they cost about 30$, Best part though is you can use it like our s pen(has a button on the side as well) but the cool part is when you flip it over it automatically acts as an eraser
dont know if this has been mentioned before just thought id put it up
thanks
http://youtu.be/T_K57DNBgXc
Thanks for the heads-up. Because you mentioned the compatilbilty I just grabbed the stylus from my Toshiba Portege M400...and it works, eraser and all!
I would have never thought of the darn thing if you hadn't mentioned that it was working with other styli with erasers, thanks!
I have a few of these for my tablet-pc in case I lost one.
BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
Basically, any tablet PC that uses wacom penabled technology will have a stylus that is compatible with the Note. So tablets from Motion Computing, Lenovo's X61/X200 convertibles, Toshiba Portege M convertibles, HP 27xx convertibles, Fujitsu Stylistics, just to name a few all use the same Wacom digitizers.
What that means too is that with enough searching, you could find a very cost effective alternative pen for the Note. I like using my old Motion Computing pen that is shaped like a fountain pen. You can also replace the hard plastic nibs with a felt nib that feels much more like writing on paper.
And before anyone asks, No, you cannot use a stylus from any of the Wacom Intuous or Bamboo art tablets. The technology there is not the same.
I'd really like someone to come up with an app that lets us use the Note as a "small" wacom pad for the PC and Mac. Either by using bluetooth or USB, we could set our phones on our desk and use the digitizer while working in Windows or OSX. That would be amazing.
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Basically, any tablet PC that uses wacom penabled technology will have a stylus that is compatible with the Note. So tablets from Motion Computing, Lenovo's X61/X200 convertibles, Toshiba Portege M convertibles, HP 27xx convertibles, Fujitsu Stylistics, just to name a few all use the same Wacom digitizers.
What that means too is that with enough searching, you could find a very cost effective alternative pen for the Note. I like using my old Motion Computing pen that is shaped like a fountain pen. You can also replace the hard plastic nibs with a felt nib that feels much more like writing on paper.
And before anyone asks, No, you cannot use a stylus from any of the Wacom Intuous or Bamboo art tablets. The technology there is not the same.
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I can confirm my note doesn't work with the styli from my Cintiq or my Wacom 4...
Can you post some links to known working styli, I am looking for one with the weight and styling as a real pen with interchangable nibs.
Cross or Parker styling would be awesome!
Would this one work? http://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-Digit...UTH2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1334357063&sr=8-8
Well the X61 Stylus doesn't look bad, anyone know if it has an eraser on it?
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BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
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Just looking at the video, this appears to be the Motion Computing, Inc. L-Series...
($33 on Google Shopper)
Product Type Digital Pen
Manufacturer Part Number 504.500.01
Manufacturer Website Address www.motioncomputing.com
Manufacturer Motion Computing, Inc
Product Name L-Series Digitizer Pen
Brand Name Motion
Compatibility Motion Computing M1200, M130, LE1600, LS800 and M1400 Tablet PC
Can anyone confirm this? It does look like a nice, affordable stylus.
If someone actually orders a stand-alone pen that works, please share the link to it.
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Just looking at the video, this appears to be the Motion Computing, Inc. L-Series...
Product Type Digital Pen
Manufacturer Part Number 504.500.01
Manufacturer Website Address
Manufacturer Motion Computing, Inc
Product Name L-Series Digitizer Pen
Brand Name Motion
Compatibility Motion Computing M1200, M130, LE1600, LS800 and M1400 Tablet PC
Can anyone confirm this? It does look like a nice, affordable stylus.
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Yes, that one will work. I have used that exact stylus on my Note at times since I own a couple of Motion tablets. This is one of the nicer pens I've used since it feels like an actual fountain pen.
Basically any stylus from a Motion Tablet will work in the M, LE, LS, F and J series tablets. The only one that won't work is from their CL900 tablet which uses an N-trig digitizer instead of Wacom.
I have purchased several different stylus pens. So far my favorite is a "Samsung Series 7 Slate Digitizer Pen"
It has a decent pocket clip (along with a tether loop hole), the top works as an eraser in s-memo (needs a bit too much force though), and its black (I have a black note). It's 1/8 inch shorter than the note and bigger around than a pencil.
Also see:
http : //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339268
Sorry to sound negative but why do people do this?
So you carry the already huge phone, and still add a huge pen?
Pls educate me.
Thanks
fbauto1 said:
Sorry to sound negative but why do people do this?
So you carry the already huge phone, and still add a huge pen?
Pls educate me.
Thanks
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Everyone uses tech differently for their own applications and usage scenarios.
In my particular case, I use my Note for a lot of note taking, diagramming, sketching... I don't find the S-pen very comfortable to use for extended periods of time. So having some alternative pen options is a good thing.
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Everyone uses tech differently for their own applications and usage scenarios.
In my particular case, I use my Note for a lot of note taking, diagramming, sketching... I don't find the S-pen very comfortable to use for extended periods of time. So having some alternative pen options is a good thing.
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What is your profession? I mean if you need that much of note taking, diagramming, sketching, wouldn't you benefit more from a tablet?
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What is your profession? I mean if you need that much of note taking, diagramming, sketching, wouldn't you benefit more from a tablet?
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Well, I am an engineer and the Note has replaced my Moleskin that I used to carry around in case I am caught in the hall with "Can you, could you, would you" tasks that usually evaporate from my brain before I can get back to my desk.
I might be biased because I haven't used a mouse in over a decade, I've been on digitizers and for the last 3 have been wacoms, I have used their Intuits 2-4 and a Cintiq, I am used to their accuracy. Trying to do charts, designs or paint with a mouse is like trying to paint with a brick. Once you try one, you'll never go back!
The stylus with the Note is a full wacom stylus not one of those inaccurate crayons that iPads have to use, it has pressure and accuracy so it is like writing with a mechanical pencil right down to erasing like one! It measures pressure so if I write harder, the line gets thicker and darker...and yes, sometimes a picture is worth more than a thousand words!
As for a tablet; this is more portable than a tablet, it is always in my pocket. It is more accurate (as said above) than any tablet (which the best one out there is the iPAD right now, I admit it!) but this is better than an iPAD or iPhone!
I am so used to having a pencil for my Moleskin that a stylus feels quite normal. I am desperately looking for a Wacom Cross but it is a quest that I suspect I will never complete!
Try one for a week, you might never go back! This is a device for business. This is proof that cowardly Microsoft would have had a runaway success if they had released the Courier...this is at least a Moleskin journal to the what could have been the Courier being a Franklin Planner...ah was might have been!
I tried my wacom pin and no luck :-( I have the new wacom pad and pin with multi touch
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717
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What is your profession? I mean if you need that much of note taking, diagramming, sketching, wouldn't you benefit more from a tablet?
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What difference would my profession make? I have coworkers who don't like the Note... its really up to the individual.
I can't explain it any better than what HoneyBadger said. The Note is infinitely more useful to me because since it's a cell phone, I carry it around with me all the time. It pushes the edge of pocketability so I'm getting the maximum amount of screen real estate for its portability.
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Honeybadger said:
Well, I am an engineer and the Note has replaced my Moleskin that I used to carry around in case I am caught in the hall with "Can you, could you, would you" tasks that usually evaporate from my brain before I can get back to my desk.
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A Moleskin is a perfect analogy. I used to carry around IPAQs like the hp4700 which is nearly comparable in size.
I've also been scouring ebay for the wacom cross pen but still can't find one.
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Honeybadger said:
Thanks for the heads-up. Because you mentioned the compatilbilty I just grabbed the stylus from my Toshiba Portege M400...and it works, eraser and all!
I would have never thought of the darn thing if you hadn't mentioned that it was working with other styli with erasers, thanks!
I have a few of these for my tablet-pc in case I lost one.
BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
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The Motion Stylus I like is part #504.500.01 which is the stylus shaped like a fountain pen. I don't have enough posts to display a link. I could PM it if you're interested.
The Fujitsu pen you had linked will work as well.
"A Moleskin is a perfect analogy. I used to carry around IPAQs like the hp4700 which is nearly comparable in size."
We must be from the same tribe, I also had a Hx4700 and loved it. This does seem to be its inheritor.
This one?
Not sure if anyone has tried this one but I like it and was wondering if it would work also?
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA3316U-3ETC-Digital-Tablet-Pen/dp/B000F6OJHE/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0
I like that it has a clip.
Cant find a thread dedicated to alternate stylus or links to items.
Thanks
Edit: just found a thread... lol but still looking for an answer please....
Dangry said:
Not sure if anyone has tried this one but I like it and was wondering if it would work also?
I like that it has a clip.
Cant find a thread dedicated to alternate stylus or links to items.
Thanks
Edit: just found a thread... lol but still looking for an answer please....
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Yes, that pen should work with the Note. The tablets that are listed in the link, such as the R10 and M200 have Wacom penabled digitizers that are compatible with the Note.