Warning about the Rocketfish (Best Buy) leather case - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Just a warning to those that are considering the Rocketfish leather case. The chemicals used to dye the fake leather interior eventually leach into the white plastic of the Flyer and appear to permanently stain it. I've tried as many chemicals as I dare to remove the now black color but no luck. I'm taking both back to Best Buy tomorrow to see what they will do. I believe Rocketfish is owned by Best Buy (house brand) so they need to take care of it either way. I'll post pics later. Anybody else notice stains on their Flyer's?

A small spot of gray yeah. Comes out with Windex or rubbing alcohol and a wash cloth.

kkinder said:
A small spot of gray yeah. Comes out with Windex or rubbing alcohol and a wash cloth.
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No, it doesn't. That has been tried. This is not on the surface.

I have noticed these gray marks on my flyer as well, but I love this case so much I don't really care. I don't really plan to use it outside of the case anyway. It gives my flyer the feeling of a real book when I carry it, and it looks very nice. Plus I can still put it in my pocket with the case on.
It's not perfect by any means, but the best I have found. For 50 dollars I would expect better fit, but I haven't found anything that fits better, or looks as good, for less money.

I wonder if this might be better http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0055EPO8O/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/183-0174799-8151867
I intend on getting a full body skin for my view and then maybe after that a leather case.

RotoRooter said:
No, it doesn't. That has been tried. This is not on the surface.
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Heh. Worked for me. Try a litte more elbow grease.

so what did Best Buy do when you showed it to them? Mine is doing the same thing.

Posted this on another thread:
Flyer on the back of the upper and lower cover for white leather finish, this material is very easily absorbed by the color, any color dyed leather or cloth, heat or after a long period of friction, there is a chance to dye the color of paint in white leather surface, the proposed first enclosed flyer back film affixed after the fuselage using this holster in order to avoid problems arise.
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translated from this page:
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So even if you get your flyer replaced, if the case uses dyes it's probably still going to stain.

Bestbuy took my Flyer back as a return and it showed signs of staining. Alcohol did help lessen the damage but it was still quite obvious.

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Looking for Black Battery Cover....

Hi i'm looking for a Black Battery Cover for my TP2...
Does Exist ???
I understand most hardware shops will sell you paint that'll do it?
...actually, jesting aside, I did that with black spray paint for a car on an old phone back: forget the phone, it was an old Nokia - but as long as you spray evenly (and for this phone perhaps cover with masking tape the speaker insert grill) you'd probably get a good result
I ordered a black battery cover by Expansys and received a standard grey one. I returned it. Be careful with Expansys and pictures that don't match the product...
Same for Me..
Expansys
And I need a grey Cover. But expansys have no cover for TP2 at this moment
I was thinking of spraying mine flat/matte white...white looks so clean. Ill paint mine a soon i can get a new back cover from ebay..
here's a solution to your problem
If it is worth the hassle to you try this:
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/htc-touch-pro2-user-dyes-battery-cover-provides-pics-video-tutorial
Are the covers on the variant he uses in the video of a matte finish to begin with? I'm wondering if the gloss finish on the unbranded HTC back cover would resist the dye?
Tref said:
Are the covers on the variant he uses in the video of a matte finish to begin with? I'm wondering if the gloss finish on the unbranded HTC back cover would resist the dye?
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I did this on my verizon tp2 which did not have a gloss finish tho and it turned out fantastic and so easy to do. Now the plastic cam lens cover and the silver colored trim around it and the vol up/dn buttons did not turn color. Perhaps because they were kinda glossy? Not sure, but a lucky break anyway for me. Very, very pleased with the results. I used very warm water, not boiling hot and as I said...good results.
If your buttons were gloss finished and didn't take the dye, then my whole back case would probably resist it as well. About the only thing that isn't glossy on mine is the speaker grill. Too bad, I wouldn't mind losing the silver color.
black cover
Dyed my VZW cover in $2.50 dye near boiling temp then removed from heat while cover and stylus were submerged. Rinsed with cold water after 30 mins and the end result was amazing. I'll be doing it to every phone in the future as long as is has the porous back cover.
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Tref said:
If your buttons were gloss finished and didn't take the dye, then my whole back case would probably resist it as well. About the only thing that isn't glossy on mine is the speaker grill. Too bad, I wouldn't mind losing the silver color.
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Just a thought, but you could use some pvc primer on it ahead of dyeing it. This takes the gloss slickness away. If your not familiar with it, it is what is used on pvc(plastic) pipe to make the glue stick because of the slick pipe finish. Available at hardware stores. I bought an extra cover from verizon for very cheap just in case before I tried anything. I heard some went into their various corp stores and asked for any extra covers and got them free, according to reports.
You could also try buffing with a very fine emory grit paper to remove gloss.

Otterbox Defender screen cut wrong?

I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
-TM
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I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
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Yes sir, the case was designed that way. Returned mine for that reason.
#Winning# said:
Yes sir, the case was designed that way. Returned mine for that reason.
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What a stunningly foolish design. All the had to do was glue $0.005 worth of thin fabric between the plastic (doesn't matter since the LCD isn't there) and that would protect the entire front, plus the speaker.
I'm thinking of getting some really light fabric, coating it with silicone, and pressing it in place. Shouldn't affect speaker quality, silicone is soft so no chance of glass damage, and it would essentially waterproof (to a degree of course) the entire front.
The commuter screen protector sucks too. It was flawless for the EVO, but doesn't fit the 3d right
It fits my screen just fine.
The only thing that doesn't fit is the top part of the silicone casing. Everything else is super.
kellybrf said:
The commuter screen protector sucks too. It was flawless for the EVO, but doesn't fit the 3d right
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siraloz said:
It fits my screen just fine.
The only thing that doesn't fit is the top part of the silicone casing. Everything else is super.
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Hmm...are you sure you're not talking about the Commuter?
Could be worst....the guys over in the sensation forum are crying because otterbox isnt making them a case lol
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ffolkes said:
Hmm...are you sure you're not talking about the Commuter?
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That would be why he replied to someone elses post about the Commuter
ffolkes said:
I'm looking at an installed Otterbox Defender, and I'm disturbed to see the plastic sheet is cut way too low on the screen, around the earpiece. The shape of the black plastic shell alone is sufficently large enough to clear the sensors/ffc/speaker. There was no need for them to die cut the screen too. This creates a literal pocket for dirt to collect against the screen. Is that how they all are? That's an unforgivable flaw.
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Couldn't agree more. I see this as a huge design mistake.
I saw this too, but I really did not think much of it. I guess there is no such thing as a perfect case.
Sent in 3D using my EVO.
Put a full screen protector on it before case and its fine love mine no issues love it no dust issues.
That's the way the case was made no issues.
nebenezer said:
Couldn't agree more. I see this as a huge design mistake.
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I returned it to Best Buy, and got the Platinum Series - 2-in-1 Covert Convertible Case for HTC (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...18353391762&skuId=2809635&st=evo 3d&cp=2&lp=3). I haven't decided if I'm keeping it yet though.
When I returned it, I feared getting a hard time since technically it was open (even there are no seals on the box) but as soon as I briefly showed the guy the top of the case, where it's cut too low, he was absolutely shocked and said "that looks like it was designed to collect grit and be suicide for your screen" and happily exchanged it.
And yeah, you can (and should I guess) use a screen protector too, but it's just so silly for a case that was designed to be the toughest, most rugged thing to have such a glaring vulnerability. I'd rather they addressed that, than put time and effort into putting a plug over something else. I'd rather get my 2D/3D switch dirty if it meant they would have focused more effort on the most important thing - the screen. And given how tightly and accurately the plastic case fits, why did they have to make the hole for the proximity/speaker/ffc so sloppy and loose? They could have cut that thing out with submilimeter accuracy, and it would have fit great, since there is no need for wobble-room/slop when that case otherwise fits so perfectly.
The Defender does feel very nice in hand though, very solid, and I loved the silicone they used. Had a wonderful feel, not the usual tacky silicone you see in "gel" cases or whatever you call them.
ffolkes said:
I returned it to Best Buy, and got the Platinum Series - 2-in-1 Covert Convertible Case for HTC (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...18353391762&skuId=2809635&st=evo 3d&cp=2&lp=3). I haven't decided if I'm keeping it yet though.
When I returned it, I feared getting a hard time since technically it was open (even there are no seals on the box) but as soon as I briefly showed the guy the top of the case, where it's cut too low, he was absolutely shocked and said "that looks like it was designed to collect grit and be suicide for your screen" and happily exchanged it.
And yeah, you can (and should I guess) use a screen protector too, but it's just so silly for a case that was designed to be the toughest, most rugged thing to have such a glaring vulnerability. I'd rather they addressed that, than put time and effort into putting a plug over something else. I'd rather get my 2D/3D switch dirty if it meant they would have focused more effort on the most important thing - the screen. And given how tightly and accurately the plastic case fits, why did they have to make the hole for the proximity/speaker/ffc so sloppy and loose? They could have cut that thing out with submilimeter accuracy, and it would have fit great, since there is no need for wobble-room/slop when that case otherwise fits so perfectly.
The Defender does feel very nice in hand though, very solid, and I loved the silicone they used. Had a wonderful feel, not the usual tacky silicone you see in "gel" cases or whatever you call them.
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I checked the case ur talkin about out felt flimsy compared to the defender also less protection otter box defender takes the cake there. I didn't like the gay flap they had on the convert to cover the camera lens wait for ballistic to.come out with there case if your wanting a tank.
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I checked the case ur talkin about out felt flimsy compared to the defender also less protection otter box defender takes the cake there. I didn't like the gay flap they had on the convert to cover the camera lens wait for ballistic to.come out with there case if your wanting a tank.
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Yeah, I agree. But for me, the best case I ever had for my Evo4G was the Seidio Surface (or BB rebranded equivalent). My plan was to get an ultrarugged case for those days I'm working outside in the field (haha, literally) and the Surface for regular daily use. So that's why the Convert case sorta fits both bills. But I agree, for someone that needs extreme protection daily, the Convert isn't as good as others like the Defender.
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Yeah, I agree. But for me, the best case I ever had for my Evo4G was the Seidio Surface (or BB rebranded equivalent). My plan was to get an ultrarugged case for those days I'm working outside in the field (haha, literally) and the Surface for regular daily use. So that's why the Convert case sorta fits both bills. But I agree, for someone that needs extreme protection daily, the Convert isn't as good as others like the Defender.
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Hope it works out for u man. I liked the feel of the otter box more then the seidio convert re branded heard some bad things about how flimsy it was checked it out at best buy didn't really seem as sexy as defender . I think ballistic would be good just that thing is a freaking tank. hope u have good luck with finding a case man.
Yeah, I quickly noticed the dust issue there too, but hey, compared to the bubbles that inevitably arise with stick-on screen protectors? I'll take it. I was able to get a swiffer cloth underneath the gap and managed to rid some of the dust that way. The only other option I might consider, if it becomes a real issue later on, is to poke a piece of a feather duster under the protector and gently swab it every so often. FYI- If you use the plastic clip while in your pocket (With the screen facing the backside of the clip), then it won't pick-up that much dust.
Other than the aforementioned, this case is everything I really ever wanted in a protective shell. I love the lens covers, screen protector, double layer of hard/soft protection, and how it fits the device like a glove. I think we can always find an issue with something if we look hard enough, but this thing rocks.
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Yeah, I quickly noticed the dust issue there too, but hey, compared to the bubbles that inevitably arise with stick-on screen protectors? I'll take it. I was able to get a swiffer cloth underneath the gap and managed to rid some of the dust that way. The only other option I might consider, if it becomes a real issue later on, is to poke a piece of a feather duster under the protector and gently swab it every so often. FYI- If you use the plastic clip while in your pocket (With the screen facing the backside of the clip), then it won't pick-up that much dust.
Other than the aforementioned, this case is everything I really ever wanted in a protective shell. I love the lens covers, screen protector, double layer of hard/soft protection, and how it fits the device like a glove. I think we can always find an issue with something if we look hard enough, but this thing rocks.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150623970249&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 put this on before the case and ur good to go no dust works great for me in the garage where I work on the shop floor mechanic
Just get a Zagg and pull the plastic piece off the Otterbox..
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Just get a Zagg and pull the plastic piece off the Otterbox..
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LOL if u use zagg don't put to much solution on the protector or u will get water damage on the screen don't know hoe well these screens are sealed og EVO had ****ty glass sealing the screen was never glued all the way around .

Beware - Cheap eBay cases

Beware of the cheap eBay cases. I've tried several styles and one has basically ruined the painted trim on one of our NTs. Ironically the cheaper one with the elastic straps causes the least amount (no) damage while the ones with the "leather" frame-type holder has rubbed off or damaged the trim on another of our NTs. The elastic straps also do a better job of holding the NT since the "leather" trim ones has begun to stretch and allow the tablet to slide around.
Could you post a pictures?
I got a Moko Folio case off amazon that did something similar. It put dyed black dots all over where the felt-ish backing touched the nook. My fix was to put a skinomi on so the dots would not get worse but I am still disappointed.
yea i bought one of those cheap cases on ebay for like 18 bucks. i am starting to see some leather stains on my NT... any ideas on how to get rid of them? i already tried rubbing alcohol which didn't work, my next idea is to use vinegar...
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yea i bought one of those cheap cases on ebay for like 18 bucks. i am starting to see some leather stains on my NT... any ideas on how to get rid of them? i already tried rubbing alcohol which didn't work, my next idea is to use vinegar...
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I bought a cheap silicone sleeve and cheap neoprene soft case. I'm going to try them out tonight and update my thread afterwards as to how they work.
KOCTA said:
Could you post a pictures?
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I'm hoping it's just the color from the cover but I tried to clean it off and it didn't work.
Sorry it took so long, but here are the pics - excuse the dirty screen - seems like the screen savers smear up more that the unprotected screen:
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yea i bought one of those cheap cases on ebay for like 18 bucks. i am starting to see some leather stains on my NT... any ideas on how to get rid of them? i already tried rubbing alcohol which didn't work, my next idea is to use vinegar...
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You can try oxalic acid containing products ("Barkeeper's Friend") and if that doesn't work it's pretty permanent. It's stronger than vinegar but it's the same idea; it should be safe on plastics. This is assuming it IS a stain and not rubbed off (the above looks rubbed off).
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I'm hoping it's just the color from the cover but I tried to clean it off and it didn't work.
Sorry it took so long, but here are the pics - excuse the dirty screen - seems like the screen savers smear up more that the unprotected screen:
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I bought the same case in those pics and took the same cornholing . I tried all kinds of stuff to clean it and stopped just short of acetone. Right now my nt has a Skinomi skin on it, but when that eventually gets scuffed up and removed, I'll try that barkeeper's friend suggestion.
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The same thing happened to me.
I bought cheap "leather" case from ebay. After I noticed this thread I checked my Nook and it has these marks
It is a first time a have such issues with cheap ebay cases.
It looks like it is a stain not a rubbing off of nook plastic.
Probably it is a black dye from fake suede used as liner migrated to the nook plastic.
Plastic used in Nook definitely is a factor.
I wish I noticed this thread before I used the case. I ordered new one from BN.
I would greatly appreciate if somebody shares a way to remove these marks.
try the speck fitfolio, picked mine up from amazon. works pretty good, doesn't cover the front and it has a soft suede backing so no problems with scuffs
Has anyone tried those types of cases that have fabric (rather leather/"suede") inner backing?
Let us know if they do come off. I have noticed some slight staining on mine and am probably going to buy a more fabric based case.
TBH it doesn't bother me too much since I mine is almost always in a case. I get nervous when it's not.
I got my case (actually, one of those things that make your tablet look like a book) from B&N for $19 on sale. It works perfectly and gets a lot of compliments. I wouldn't get those cheap eBay ones...
I was really close to buying one of the Moko until I saw that Snugg made a case for the Nook. I'm glad I did after seeing this thread. The Snugg case is great and hasn't stained my tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/Snugg-Quality...8YTY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330541401&sr=8-1
News flash: Cheap chinese knock offs causing damage. News at 11.
Judging from the pics it looks more like rub off then residue. But knowing they used the lowest grade materials I wouldn't it put the idea of cheap ink soaking into the rubber plastic of the NT case either. Good call on the bartenders friend. That stuff has saved me in the past. As has the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.
I would not use goo gone though. I've had that crap destroy plastics in the past.
I do hope you guys are able to get your nooks looking good again. I know I love keeping mine in pristine condition and would be pretty upset if something bad happened to mar it's surfaces.
You're better off buying the covers from BN.
I didnt buy the cheap leather chinese case from ebay becuase it was cheap, I liked it cuz it had the ability to fold into a stand. The barnes cases dont have that, but I severely regret not having bought one now.
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I didnt buy the cheap leather chinese case from ebay becuase it was cheap, I liked it cuz it had the ability to fold into a stand. The barnes cases dont have that, but I severely regret not having bought one now.
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/tasume-in-carbon/22193460
You should have searched a little more. At $40 and free shipping after a promo code, this was worth every penny.
Solar.Plexus said:
You should have searched a little more. At $40 and free shipping after a promo code, this was worth every penny.
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I like it, but its bulky looking, I like cases that don't add bulk.
Ill probably get the black silicone case from B&N, since its the only one I like that covers up the scuffs left by the ****ty ebay case. Im willing to try drops of acetone with cotton swabs, worst case scenario, ill pull the thing apart, and paint the bezel.
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I like it, but its bulky looking, I like cases that don't add bulk.
Ill probably get the black silicone case from B&N, since its the only one I like that covers up the scuffs left by the ****ty ebay case. Im willing to try drops of acetone with cotton swabs, worst case scenario, ill pull the thing apart, and paint the bezel.
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It's not actually that bulky. The covers are really thin and are made of an almost rubber material. The flaps fold back and are held together by magnets inside.
It was a really good idea from Barnes and Noble if you ask me. Perfect for working out of my e-book textbooks during class.

Glossy plastic

I've had my Mist Blue XC for less than 3 days. I've done nothing but lay it on flat surfaces being very careful with it until a case I ordered arrives. Now I noticed there are a ton of fine scratches on the back of the phone.
Brilliant move choosing to use glossy plastic on this thing, Sony...
Sorry to hear that, what case did you order ( link please) are there any third party cases , beside the original ones ?
Can you please post photos of the scratch? Probably have to use screen protector on both sides. And then use a case
Hard to shoot the scratches. They are really fine scratches on the gloss coat I assume.
I ordered this cheap case on Amazon until something better comes out.
https://www.amazon.com/Xperia-Compa...a+x+compact+case"&refinements=p_85:2470955011
Strange , the link you posted is states" X Compact Case" but the pictures are from the Z5 compact Ringke Fusion
andysoft83 said:
Strange , the link you posted is states" X Compact Case" but the pictures are from the Z5 compact Ringke Fusion
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Pictures have been updated on the item now. Doesn't look like the previously advertised case (top and bottom edges are open). I ordered one, and I'm not impressed the item changed.
Yeah, Not happy they changed the images but it will do until something better comes out.
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I've had my Mist Blue XC for less than 3 days. I've done nothing but lay it on flat surfaces being very careful with it until a case I ordered arrives. Now I noticed there are a ton of fine scratches on the back of the phone.
Brilliant move choosing to use glossy plastic on this thing, Sony...
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yeah... it does seem to scratch rather a bit too easily. At least (so far on mine) the screen doesn't have the same scratchability as the back:fingers-crossed: . Maybe sony will release some carnauba based polish when support folks start suggesting that the little fine scratches will just buff out...
so anyone could get a glass panel for the back of this phone? anything to put there might do the job actually
Glossy plastic is highly underrated. It looks good and is light and cheap. Won't shatter like glass, less slippery than metal, and the inevitable scratches are...quickly and cheaply repaired to bring the surface to like new condition. How? take a minute to apply a little wax polish with a soft cloth and rub until dry.
I have used Novus Fine Scratch Remover (#2), but I would think car wax would work just as well. I removed some marred patches from when I dropped the phone on hardwood floor and it skidded a bit, and not only did those patches disappear, but so did the fine scratches.
I don't think this would be wise for the screen, however, as it would probably harm the oleophobic coating.
This is why I put stickers on the back (and eventually sides) to protect the phone, and also make it less slippery in my hands, you can see some photos here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74286145&postcount=7

TETDED Slim Leather Case

A cautionary tale for those who have or are looking at the Tetded/TETDED slim leather case on eBay or elsewhere. I have had this case for about a month and it has been great - snug, nice leather and best of all a nice slim fit, similar to the Apple leather case for the iPhone. Today I took the case off to kind of just take a look at the phone and wipe away any schmutz and much to my chagrin, noticed some wear marks on the glass (top of the phone). While faint and kind of hard to notice due to the glass being shiny, it has wear marks nonetheless. I sent a message to the seller on eBay who asked for pictures of the wear, which will be tricky to take, like I said, because they are both faint and the glass is shiny.
I like the case a lot and would easily recommend it to someone looking for this style of case, but after noticing this...I don't think a case should leave marks on your phone.
I have a full skin on my pixel. Front and back. Do you think there is enough give in the case to fit over a skin?
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I have a full skin on my pixel. Front and back. Do you think there is enough give in the case to fit over a skin?
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It would be pretty damn tight.
Could you shield the glass with some carefully-cut-out plastic kitchen wrap before putting it in the case? (There's probably a better kind of plastic film to use, but that's the first one that came to mind.)
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Could you shield the glass with some carefully-cut-out plastic kitchen wrap before putting it in the case? (There's probably a better kind of plastic film to use, but that's the first one that came to mind.)
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I have a skin on the glass only
Thanks for the warning. I've been eyeing this case. Guess I should stop.
I had an orange version of this case, cleaned it with leather cleaner and the dye came off! I love a nice premium leather case, but this isn't it in my book.
Just sad we cannot get a high quality slim leather case, that isn't a wallet or folds out into a stupid origami swan or something. If the Pixel is selling as well as we are led to believe, I am surprised more folks aren't making them.
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Just sad we cannot get a high quality slim leather case, that isn't a wallet or folds out into a stupid origami swan or something. If the Pixel is selling as well as we are led to believe, I am surprised more folks aren't making them.
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More likely is that leather cases are not very popular now and they take a lot more production to make compared to a molded case. Less demand, more production costs means less availability.
I have the exact same case, and have had mine on for about a month as well, maybe slightly longer.
Just checked the back of mine and it's fine - totally scratch free and perfect under the case. I can't see how this case would damage the back of the phone as it's backed with a thin layer of foam.
Maybe some crud got stuck in between the case and the back?

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