I don't know if anyone's seen this yet, but for all the US users currently on AT&T, they'll begin to offer a $50 prepaid unlimited plan on June 26th. It'll include unlimited minutes, data, and text (including international text).
I just wanted to get a discussion going to see if this will work with the Galaxy S II. It's marketed for GoPhone's (not sure what that means), and smartphone data will be extra, though a lot of us have already been successfully using the non-smartphone postpaid data plan on AT&T.
A link to Engadget, which also includes the AT&T press release:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/atandt-to-offer-50-unlimited-prepaid-plan-ready-to-gophone-jun
There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
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There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
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Perhaps there's a lack of clarity in the press release, but it seems as if unlimited data is also included (albeit not for smartphones, for which the $5 to $25 charge is applied).
However, it seems that "unlimited web" is included for "quick messaging phones."
Many of us have been successfully using cheaper non-smartphone unlimited data plans for our Galaxy S II's, since the IMEI is not registered in AT&T's system. Essentially, we've been able to access the dumbphone plans.
Just wondering if that might also be the case here with the new prepaid plan.
kreoXDA said:
dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
kreoXDA said:
I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
Anyway, I'll recheck that thread to see if I'm mistaken... or if there have been some new developments.
If anyone checks if this works, please post. I am interested.
kreoXDA said:
I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
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According to some, the smartphone plan for "4G" phones would give you uncapped "fake 4G" speed. The feature-phone unlimited 3G does give you "fake 4G" speeds and HSPA+ access but the speed is supposedly capped. I believe it all depends on WHERE you use the phone. Where I am, I was getting same HSPA+ speeds on my old 3G smartphone plan and on the current feature phone plan: max 6 Mbps down, 2 up, on a very good day, on 99% of other days I get about 3 down and 0.5 up. Since I can clearly see that I can't really achieve the max speeds the "speed-capped" plan allows, it made no sense to me to switch to the "fake 4G" service for 4G-labeled phones.
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
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I think it is this thread, based on my bad memory.
vince2398 said:
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
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confirming, as I described above, I get the H+ icon on the phone and good speeds, here in New York City. I do suffer from hanging signal problems though (some people attribute it to "fast dormancy" setting, changing which does not help me personally)
I'm on the non-smartphone data plan and getting HSPA+ in my area.
In the several areas I've run speed tests (California Bay Area, Southern California, Denver), I've averaged about 3mbps up and 1mbps down. I've hit up to 5-6mbps down.
Of course, more speed is always a good thing, but these speeds are entirely satisfactory to me.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing if the prepaid plan offers the same data service.
Also, I'm assuming the $50 a month is an out the door flat rate that includes all taxes and fees?
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
kreoXDA said:
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
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I'm wondering if prepaid might be the way to go then, since the market seems more competitive and unlimited data is one of the key selling points.
Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
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If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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LOL Why would they do that now? You would probably activate your dumpphone on prepaid account and then just switch sim cards.
Did anyone end up getting the $50 featurephone plan? Did you swap a smartphone onto it? Most importantly, I would like to know what kind of data speeds are you getting on the prepaid featurephone plan?
I read reports that ATT caps prepaid featurephone data to 0.2 Mbps or lower (EDGE speeds). Can anyone post a speed test using this plan?
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Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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There is a "4g" enabled unlimited plan. You should be on it if you upgraded through an At&t sales location. On the other hand, if you just swapped your SIM (or an uninformed sales rep did) then you may not be.
There are definitely different SOC codes. The easiest way to find out is to call and ask.
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goscrewsir said:
There is a "4g" enabled unlimited plan. You should be on it if you upgraded through an At&t sales location. On the other hand, if you just swapped your SIM (or an uninformed sales rep did) then you may not be.
There are definitely different SOC codes. The easiest way to find out is to call and ask.
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Thanks for letting me know about the different types. I was afraid to call and have them force me into a 2GB plan after finding out that I have an Atrix. I did buy the phone from an AT&T store, but I don't think he changed my plan.
I've been feeling pretty down with my "4G" phone giving me speeds like 1.5Mbps down and .2 up in Manhattan. Simply ridiculous.
RE: 4G
I have heard that AT&T hasn't enabled "4G" yet. Google "Atrix 4G" and check out news results.
cataclysmicvoid said:
Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't seen anyone saying they're getting speeds that fast. Highest I've seen is 5mbps from a Bell user.
Okay so I have been reading about AT&T prepaid with the Note.
So basically all I need to do is buy this phone
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/packages/packages-details.jsp?q_package=sku5330250
then pop the sim in the Note and set the APN to what the sticky shows and WIN! correct? Once everything works then just call up and have my number ported over from Sprint to the prepaid?
TIA
Moved To AT&T Note General
We have a AT&T note forum now. Please post all relevant questions there
Yeah but I'm buying the international Note not the AT&T Note.
MrDSL said:
Okay so I have been reading about AT&T prepaid with the Note.
So basically all I need to do is buy this phone
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/packages/packages-details.jsp?q_package=sku5330250
then pop the sim in the Note and set the APN to what the sticky shows and WIN! correct? Once everything works then just call up and have my number ported over from Sprint to the prepaid?
TIA
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If you want to get unbelievably slow data speeds, then yes that is exactly what you want to do. Sorry but I would never buy a phone at full price only to cripple it with 1-3mb download speeds (if you even get that with a gophone plan) This will also render the gps practically useless.
People confuse me.
imitenotbecrazy said:
If you want to get unbelievably slow data speeds, then yes that is exactly what you want to do. Sorry but I would never buy a phone at full price only to cripple it with 1-3mb download speeds (if you even get that with a gophone plan) This will also render the gps practically useless.
People confuse me.
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People report much faster speeds then that by doing this..What is it I'm missing?
imitenotbecrazy said:
If you want to get unbelievably slow data speeds, then yes that is exactly what you want to do. Sorry but I would never buy a phone at full price only to cripple it with 1-3mb download speeds (if you even get that with a gophone plan) This will also render the gps practically useless.
People confuse me.
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1-3 mbps is quite nice if you can get that on AT&T. But I disagree with GPS useless part. I routinely use my GS2 for GPS navigation. And it has no problem when travel through some areas that are 2G only. In fact, with Google Nav, once the route is caculated, you can turn the data off and your navigation still works because the map data along the route is pre-cached.
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People report much faster speeds then that by doing this..What is it I'm missing?
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Go phone or pre-paid plans are heavily throttled by AT&T. You won't be able to get the full speed.
foxbat121 said:
1-3 mbps is quite nice if you can get that on AT&T. But I disagree with GPS useless part. I routinely use my GS2 for GPS navigation. And it has no problem when travel through some areas that are 2G only. In fact, with Google Nav, once the route is caculated, you can turn the data off and your navigation still works because the map data along the route is pre-cached.
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Go phone or pre-paid plans are heavily throttled by AT&T. You won't be able to get the full speed.
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Interesting about the GPS. I did not know that, but thats a good thing. Sorry I just think 1-3 is a joke for a smart phone. I regularly get 8-12 with my h+ on my skyrocket and have seen 50+ on LTE with the skyrocket. Some may say you don't need it but its certainly nice to have when pulling up web pages and downloading stuff. Streaming is also seamless, where I had problems with my i4 streaming pandora
Well this is what I get all the time with Sprint. So almost anything could beat that and my gps works fine...At home and work im on wifi anyway but those speeds arent hard to beat really.
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Well this is what I get all the time with Sprint. So almost anything could beat that and my gps works fine...At home and work im on wifi anyway but those speeds arent hard to beat really.
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Yikes lol
That was at my house which doesn't get the best reception in the world. I guess if you're coming from those speeds with sprint you'll be fine.
Changes things doesn't? LoL
I'm so tired of these speeds!!
Yes that certainly changes things lol I would post your question in the int note section, as most of us on this forum will be getting the ATT one and not using a prepaid plan (I assume)
I dont see why gophone is heavily throttled. You use what you pay for and if you go over, the line gets cut until you reload your account.
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Yes that certainly changes things lol I would post your question in the int note section, as most of us on this forum will be getting the ATT one and not using a prepaid plan (I assume)
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I dont see why gophone is heavily throttled. You use what you pay for and if you go over, the line gets cut until you reload your account.
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I dont think that its necesarily heavily throttled its just that the data plan you are using is one that is not capable of good speeds. The data plan for the phone the OP linked is not even 3g
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I dont see why gophone is heavily throttled. You use what you pay for and if you go over, the line gets cut until you reload your account.
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IIRC, there is unlimited data plan for GoPhone.
The throttle part is from posts here by an AT&T employee. And I believe him because for the limited bandwidth AT&T has so far, GoPhone should be on the lowest prority for bandwidth allocation
Yes you could do this. If certain conditions are met. First, the Note must be an unlocked version that can be used anywhere. 2nd, and this is the biggest one, AT&T allows the phone to be used on a pre-paid plan.
The reason for this comment is simple. AT&T knows what phones attached to which SIM Cards. I can bet you the cost of a plan that AT&T will notify you that you can not use a Smart Phone on the GoPhone SIM and Plan. AT&T has no GoPhone's that are Smart Phones. So once they see that you have a Smart Phone, especially one like the Note, attached to a GoPhone SIM, they will throw a fit. They will want their money from that Data Plan.
Not to mention, the GoPhone Plans suck. The amount of money you will spend will equal out to what it will cost you on a contract plan. Especially if you are a heavy texter/data user.
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Yes you could do this. If certain conditions are met. First, the Note must be an unlocked version that can be used anywhere. 2nd, and this is the biggest one, AT&T allows the phone to be used on a pre-paid plan.
The reason for this comment is simple. AT&T knows what phones attached to which SIM Cards. I can bet you the cost of a plan that AT&T will notify you that you can not use a Smart Phone on the GoPhone SIM and Plan. AT&T has no GoPhone's that are Smart Phones. So once they see that you have a Smart Phone, especially one like the Note, attached to a GoPhone SIM, they will throw a fit. They will want their money from that Data Plan.
Not to mention, the GoPhone Plans suck. The amount of money you will spend will equal out to what it will cost you on a contract plan. Especially if you are a heavy texter/data user.
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First, the international notes imei is not in ATTs system so they would have no idea what phone is on the plan. Second, all you do is activate the go phone with unlimited nonsmartphone data plan on the gophone with supplied sim, swap some into note and configure correct apn settings so that the note can get on ATTs data network. Third and unrelated, there are gophone smartphones like the thrive and new one which I forget the real name but model is the frog. All the instructions on using gophone plans with international notes are in the other forum
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Hi, new member here looking to get a GNote soon...
I found this service today straighttalksim(dot)com
It uses AT&T's network and you can use any unlocked phone you want. Just throwing it out there.
KSoD said:
Yes you could do this. If certain conditions are met. First, the Note must be an unlocked version that can be used anywhere. 2nd, and this is the biggest one, AT&T allows the phone to be used on a pre-paid plan.
The reason for this comment is simple. AT&T knows what phones attached to which SIM Cards. I can bet you the cost of a plan that AT&T will notify you that you can not use a Smart Phone on the GoPhone SIM and Plan. AT&T has no GoPhone's that are Smart Phones. So once they see that you have a Smart Phone, especially one like the Note, attached to a GoPhone SIM, they will throw a fit. They will want their money from that Data Plan.
Not to mention, the GoPhone Plans suck. The amount of money you will spend will equal out to what it will cost you on a contract plan. Especially if you are a heavy texter/data user.
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There are go phones that are smart phones, but they require seperate, and really expensive, data plans on top of the go phone minutes. Not that it really counters your main point, but it's more of an FYI.
I read somewhere that you can log into your att account and see what data plan you are on to ensure you can get HSPA+s speeds but i cant find that info anymore. does anyone know?
My roomate came from a samsung captivate to an atrix 4g and we want to make sure he's getting the full speed possible
If u own an matrix 4g you're deffinatrly never going to get 4g speed because real 4g doesn't exist yet h+ is jut a bit faster than 3g and deffinately limited and there no extra charge for h+ because it isn't much different.
Download speed test on the market and u can see ur up and down speeds
At best it is 3.5G and depending where you live you won't see h+ speeds but wish u luck
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If u own an matrix 4g you're deffinatrly never going to get 4g speed because real 4g doesn't exist yet h+ is jut a bit faster than 3g and deffinately limited and there no extra charge for h+ because it isn't much different.
Download speed test on the market and u can see ur up and down speeds
At best it is 3.5G and depending where you live you won't see h+ speeds but wish u luck
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I know all this, as i have an LTE nexus on verizon
but i still want to know how to check if his account is setup for HSPA+ after coming from a non "4g" att phone
Att requires a smartphone data plan with the purchase of the atrix. All att data plans have the same speed. If he bought the phone through att, he has a data plan, he has att "4g".
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Att requires a smartphone data plan with the purchase of the atrix. All att data plans have the same speed. If he bought the phone through att, he has a data plan, he has att "4g".
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From what I've read, there are 3 different data plans. Basic smart phone, smart phone with 4g, and some other one I don't know.
Legacystar said:
From what I've read, there are 3 different data plans. Basic smart phone, smart phone with 4g, and some other one I don't know.
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(All data plans do not have the same speed as someone else stated).
The other one is iPhone data plan. Actually, I believe there is also a BB plan.
When you purchase an Atrix they automatically put you on the correct data plan, so you need to check nothing. That data plan will be 2GB, 4GB, or unlimited data on 4G, which is not real 4G as was already stated.
If you are really that concerned about your roommate's data plan, tell him to call AT&T for crying out loud and talk to them!
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(All data plans do not have the same speed as someone else stated).
The other one is iPhone data plan. Actually, I believe there is also a BB plan.
When you purchase an Atrix they automatically put you on the correct data plan, so you need to check nothing. That data plan will be 2GB, 4GB, or unlimited data on 4G, which is not real 4G as was already stated.
If you are really that concerned about your roommate's data plan, tell him to call AT&T for crying out loud and talk to them!
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He didn't purchase it from att, got one off Craig's list . He has a grandfathered unlimited plan. We all know how dumb customer service reps can be.
Ok so you know the plan. Unlimited. that's all it will say on the site. If you insist, you log in and navigate to your account and plan settings. If you want to test speed, download speedtest from the market.
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settings-about phone-status
under Mobile Network Type, you should see "HSPA". That is the best ya gonna get from most AT&T connections (so called 3.5G) I don't recall ever seeing it say HSPA+. If you have UMTS, you are getting old "mediaNet" speeds, probably a fallback from a crappy signal from the tower. I don't know how the 4gLTE displays.
edit: this is indicative of what type of signal you are getting, not what plan you have. But if you have HSPA, you got the plan you want.
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settings-about phone-status
under Mobile Network Type, you should see "HSPA". That is the best ya gonna get from most AT&T connections (so called 3.5G) I don't recall ever seeing it say HSPA+. If you have UMTS, you are getting old "mediaNet" speeds, probably a fallback from a crappy signal from the tower. I don't know how the 4gLTE displays.
edit: this is indicative of what type of signal you are getting, not what plan you have. But if you have HSPA, you got the plan you want.
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Not an expert on att so not trying to argue, but according to this, just because your seeing hspa signal, does not mean you are getting enhanced speeds.
http://gdgt.com/discuss/how-i-was-finally-provisioned-for-4g-on-my-atandt-galaxy-nexus-i8z/
The different data plans do not affect speed, just the amount of data you can use. You are limited to what your phone's hardware can do and your coverage.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
C0BRA01 said:
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
HSPA+
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
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Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I've tested running completely stock, stock + rooted, and on The Collective Unofficial ROM.
Yes I am on AT&T.
C0BRA01 said:
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I'm running into the same issues. I am thinking that since I am a long time AT&T unlimited user, I only have two options available:
Note: I already unlocked, then rooted the stock with Odin, did a back-up with
Titanium, did a nandroid back from the phone, and loaded the clockwork recovery into my phone so that I can load ROMS easier.
Options:
1. Subscribe to AT&Ts NEW service options and I will be subscribed to their
new HSPA+/LTE club (give up unlimited) without any problems.
OR
2. Don't subscribe to any of their new plans, and stay stuck with the Edge and
3G, and Unlimited data services, all while the phone falsely shows 4G at the top of the screen.
My fastest down speed has been around 6.5 MB - depending on where I am while 4G was being displayed on the phone.
It seems to me that the HSPA+/LTE requires a special subscription.
Network Mode does not appear on my phone, so I can't ensure that it
it has a 4G service selected. I was looking for a fix that would turn my Network Mode back on.
I can see a defaulted APN titled AT&T PTA, but it is locked from edits.
If I set my phone to that defaulted AT&T PTA everything works but data. SpeedTest immediately displays, "Try Again".
In my Elixir application, if I choose "Turn WiMax(4G) ON,
I get the following in Elixir:
=====Data======
State: DcInactiveState
disconnected with last try at 4:38 PM
fail because
SERVICE_OPTION_NOT_SUBSCRIBED
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So, I think that either we need to figure out how to turn Network Mode back on,
for the AT&T Notes, or give up unlimited and go with their new plan.
Some kind of way it seems like a subscription may be tied into allowing HSPA/LTE speeds.
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
4g vs 3g
Don't bother upgrading. I had unlimited, and am now on their 5gb a month plan with tethering. and I am not getting any faster speeds. I seriously doubt it's the plan, and I am getting billed for 4g.
Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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I think maybe I misread your earlier post. Do you mean that you have an AT&T Unlimited plan (calling minutes, etc) or AT&T unlimited data plan?
If you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, they should upgrade you to the unlimited 4G data plan with the new SIM card.
If you have the Unlimited calling plan, then you might have to suck it up and get one of the capped data plans if you really want LTE.
Either way, to get the faster data speeds you would need a new SIM card. The older SIMs (even from last year in some cases) can't handle the faster LTE speeds and can cripple the data speeds on the phone to the point you are describing.
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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I just picked mine up yesterday. Upgraded from a Nexus One. I still have the old SIM, it's disabled. I purchased the phone at the ATT store. Comes with a NEW SIM or you won't get LTE speeds.
1. Other than the upgrade fee, my monthly bill is the same. I still have my unlimited data plan, only since I'm LTE now I don't get throttled until I hit 5G.
2. I get 25M DL, 8.5 UL at my house. I live in San Diego. (depending on where I am. I tried here at work and got **** for DL, right next to thousands of iPhone users)
If someone is telling you different, they are lying.
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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No. It has to be an "unlimited smartphone data plan". If you have that no matter what phone you are using, you can keep it. Usually you can tell by how much you are paying for the data plan. There was a "unlimited" plan for other non smartphones for like $20 for phones like the Razor etc but the smartphone plan for what were known previously as PDAs was like $39.
So which one do you have? I am pretty sure if you only have the unlimited non-smartphone plan you cannot convert that to a smartphone unlimited plan...
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Yes, and I think there is a list of cities somewhere. Seattle area, as high tech as it is, does NOT have it yet, while smaller cities, and lower tech areas do? Doesn't make sense to me. So for now I am stuck with HSPA+
On my HD2, I had regular 3g speeds, then I did a radio change, and used the Rafpigna Froyo ROM, and suddenly I started getting speeds like my sig pic shows. My data is slower with this ROM, but from what I have been reading around the net, my speeds are pretty typical for a lot of the Notes on HSPA+
Forgot to mention that I installed the leaked ICS ROM, and it is very much worth doing. Data speed went up a little as well. Still not as much as my HD2 was though.
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The speed of the network will always vary greatly. They are completely based on your proximity to the tower and the current load from other users on the tower. Unless you can find a tower with no other users on it and you can repeat the test from the exact same spot, there is no way to compare speeds between phones, or even the same phone at different locations.
If you find some threads where people are reporting their speeds, you will see that they vary by massive amounts.
I can say that I am still onthe unlimited data plan and on stock ROM I was getting 10Mbps. It must be your area because my last phone was hitting max capability on HSPA @ 7.2 Mbps.
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Edit, just to clarify I went from a 3G only phone and finally got a 4G phone and I really don't thing they are trying to throttle your speeds just because you are on 4G with an unlimited data plan.
I was an AT&T rep from a long time ago (before cingular) and one thing that has held true is that all reps are told by corporate to push people into new plans no matter what. I was told as a rep by another rep that even something as swapping phones required new 2 year contracts which was and still is bull.
AT&T arbitrarily swapped my plan when I went from my G1 to a streak because they said I never was on a smartphone plan. I explained to them that I was on a blackjack and went to a G1 (paying $30 a month) and then I went to the streak. They told me tough luck and they were keeping me on the tiered data plan. I calmly asked for their manager, when I was transferred I exploded on the manager telling them that I call every time when I swap phones to make sure everything is good (not needing to upgrade my plan or anything) and that it was their screwup and if they're treating me like this I was going to leave. I promptly got an apology and asked for my current IEMI number and we were done. I threw in words and phrases like improper business practices, bait and switch and other such things. Managers have more "Say" on what they can do, you tend to get things taken care of because they just don't want to deal with you.
that's been my experience with AT&T, they're far from perfect, but if you start yelling and being upset, you're more likely to get what you want. Sad but true.
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Nope, no LTE in Seattle yet. Only HSPA+ Seattle is very high tech, and yet, no LTE here. One of AT&T's major data centers is here as well. Hard to tell why they are slow rolling it out here.
I don't get to see the invoices. My wife works for AT&T, and gets those. She did tell me I am being billed for 4g though.
Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
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Hi all,
I've been hanging in the International Note forums as I have a GT-N7000... I love it!! And running ParanoidAndroid it's awesome!!
Anyways, I will be moving to the US (San Francisco) next month and I have a few questions for my fellow Note'rs:
-Will I be able to use my International Note in the US with at least 3G speeds and/or HSDPA speeds?
- Is there a carrier that will let me use my phone and give me cheaper prices?
- For new voice+data plans, can I get unlimited for cheap somewhere with good coverage?
Any other topics or gotcha's you can think of will be appreciated!
See you soon !!!
You can use Straight Talk unlimited voice text data $45 US. Its monthly, and you buy refill cards.
Your phone supports the AT&T frequencies. You will get at least 3g. But you can go to their site to see a map to verify that.
You will have to purchase the sim card ahead of time, as not many stores sell the sim.
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Hi all,
I've been hanging in the International Note forums as I have a GT-N7000... I love it!! And running ParanoidAndroid it's awesome!!
Anyways, I will be moving to the US (San Francisco) next month and I have a few questions for my fellow Note'rs:
-Will I be able to use my International Note in the US with at least 3G speeds and/or HSDPA speeds?
- Is there a carrier that will let me use my phone and give me cheaper prices?
- For new voice+data plans, can I get unlimited for cheap somewhere with good coverage?
Any other topics or gotcha's you can think of will be appreciated!
See you soon !!!
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yup, straight talk sim, as stated above. and you could always throw me that international version and take my U.S version and get 1/2/3/4G LOL.
BTW, there is no such thing as an Unlimited GSM/HSPA data plan in the USA. Voice, yes, SMS/MMS, yes, mobile data, no.
Straight Talk say their data is unlimited but they cut you off after 2GB/mo. Although I have read that ST will turn it back on it you call them up and profess to not using the data for file downloading, running a server or business using it.
Thanks, Straight Talk sounds like a good fit...
Is the quality good? Or at least as good as the competitors'?
>they cut you off after 2GB/mo
Do you mean that they throttle speed down or do they cut it off and no more data is flowing?
To give you an idea, I am on Vodafone Spain at the moment (living in Spain heheh and my plan is €120 per month (=approx. $150 per month), I get 1000 minutes in the day, 1000 minutes nights and weekends, and 1 GB of data.
So Straight Talk will be a good bargain!!!
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...Do you mean that they throttle speed down or do they cut it off and no more data is flowing?...
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The latter. go over 2GB and no data.
Wow that's radical...
Here with Vodafone when I go above 1GB of data they I go into "Best Effort" mode when I cannot be guaranteed the speed of the connection, it can be HSDPA, it can be 3G... or it can be GPRS...
But I'll have a connection...
But again it costs an arm and a leg!!
So Straight Talk seems like the best deal...
If you don't mind...trade your International Note for an unlocked AT&T and get Tmobile monthly 4G for $30 and get 5GB's of 4G data. After 5GB they throttle you. Still way better and cheaper than Straight Talk's plan. But you will be on Tmobile's Network...but i heard Tmobile speeds are pretty fast in the bay area. If you use your current International note on Tmo's network you'd only get 2G coverage...not the biz. Good luck on relocating!