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I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
Menu -> settings -> wireless & networks -> wi-fi settings -> menu -> advanced -> wi-fi sleep policy -> never
I think that's it.
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okachowwa said:
I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
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Have you checked the Wifi Settings to see which sleep option is selected? There is an 'Never' option which tells wifi to stay on even when the phone sleeps.
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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Yup, I have the same issue with CM7 nightlies. This worked flawlessly in CM6 and stock2.1. So far there isn't a viable solution.
from the CM6.1.1 thread...
Q. How do I keep my wifi from going to sleep every time the screen shuts off?
A. There is a hidden feature that disables wifi sleep.
menu > Settings > Wireless & networks > wifi settings > menu (again) > advanced > Wi-Fi Sleep policy > Never > menu > Save
However: although you can keep the wifi service from sleeping, the wifi driver will still sleep on it's own after detecting no bus activity for a period of time.
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from the CM6.1.1 thread...
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
I've had the same behavior on FR008 and the stock ATT 2.1 load as well. When Wifi is in that on but not really connected state some apps can wake it up...the default browser usually will, but Listen would not. I just gave up and only turn on wifi when I need it.
kinggrowler said:
I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
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That's a good tip, I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it lol and I also agree that it is good practice to do so. I just wanted to point it out in case a dev was going through this thread which is relevant to the topic.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
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...although I have a strong suspicion.
kinggrowler said:
Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
...although I have a strong suspicion.
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First of all:
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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That being said. Beta does NOT necessarily imply that thing are not fully functioning, it simply implies that it hasn't been put into RC or stable. You can have a fully functioning beta program. HOWEVER, it may not be working properly. But creating a thread about an issue that's been brought up 20+ times now is pointless. I'm PRETTY sure the devs know about the issue, should it actually be an issue. Now that I just wasted another 15 seconds of my life, i'm going to casually /part from this thread and I'll end my post with this quote again, in case you didn't catch it the first time.
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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This is for OP and very important man of the day, kinggrowler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11171075&postcount=1054
and i'll even quote it directly for you:
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There are no broad wifi issues to resolve, and I do not plan to change the wifi driver one iota. I am using the one that works right for most people, and flawlessly for me.
If you are not having such luck, then you need to look at your access point if you have already wiped data.
Really, the constant carping about wifi is absolutely pointless.
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I believe the proper thing for me to say right now would be:
game. set. match.
Me too. I can't roam between networks, either. I have to disable and re-enable the wifi each time.
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...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network?
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1) Because Google Maps uses known wifi hotspots to help establish your location.
2) So that you don't have to keep toggling wifi on and off when moving between hotspots (or home and work, for example).
3) To use the network notification feature (aka "notify me when an open network is available").
HTH
Edit: seems to be fixed in RC3!
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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i have try everything and still same issues with wifi. and i change the radio ( baseband ). still i am thinking of uninstalling it bc i dont have wifi
Sorry to tell you but that was with the old wifi stuff (every nightly up to build 25), which I had no problem with. The RC/nightlies have new wifi data made by jznomoney, which I have on and off problems with. Its working for most people but there are a handful who are having problems. I flashed ladios' kernel and my wifi is doing a lot better with the new RC/nightlies.
Signatures are fancy.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
Code:
Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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I've noticed something similar with CM7 on my Aria. When I leave the house and come back it doesn't always connect automatically and it will enter into this cycle of scanning, connecting, disconnected.
I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop the cycle and stay connected. I don't use a lot of data anyway but I still prefer to use wifi when available. Interestingly just now it wouldn't even see any of my neighbor's wifi networks at all which is odd.
Hi hope someone can help.
I've bought an Xperian X10 mini for my daughter. She loves it. All her friends love it. The iPhone owners want one! (Big) but.....
She is not a heavy user, and so put her on a PAYG contract. However it is running out of credit very quickly, and when I checked the usage it is nothing she is doing, but some background app that is regularly (hourly) connecting with GPRS and doing... well something, but I have no idea what :-S The info on the usage (from Orange) is (e.g.)
date & time event type dialled number/description duration/vol(Kb) cost (?)
22/05/11 19:22 GPRS ap-prepaidsessio 38.0 0.00
with the same entry every hour:22
We have tried disabling as many sync type options / apps as we can find (e.g. Timescape) but it is still happening, and is driving me up the wall.
The reason I am even more annoyed is that most of the time it is at home, and connected (apparently successfully) to our wifi, so why the hell is it using GPRS anyway when there is an active wifi conection?! :-S
I have tried everything I can think of, and short of turning it off there seems little I can do. Can anyone help please??
- Which app is doing this?
- How do I configure it to either
i) use Wifi (preferred - would rather not disable functionality if possible) or
ii) stop auto syncing every hour?
Any help very gratefully received!
Thanks in advance
T
There are a couple of apps out there that can monitor data usage per app. But so far, all those that I found require Froyo (2.2) and above. I'm guessing your using the stock SE ROM so that's 2.1.
But there is an alternative.
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
Click Usage Statistics
Click Battery history
Click the Other usage dropdown
Click network usage
That should show you which apps are using your network connection. But both wifi and 3g; at least it gives you an idea.
As to how to prevent use, you could go to each app and customize syncing options if at all possible. If you just want to block an app from using the network totally, I suggest LBE Privacy Guard, free on the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lbe.security
They have a thread here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091065
EDIT: BTW, the phone shouldn't be using GPRS when wifi is available. That's weird. First time I've heard of that happening.
Many thanks for the info - really useful - will check the links you've given.
On the wifi (and yes it is weird - and annoying!) could it be "connected" but without a "proper" connection? Is there some way I can check, e.g. switch off GPRS and see if can see www?
Just tried what you suggested (disconnected the internet from my wifi router, but router still on), and my X10MP didn't even attempt to connect to GPRS despite using apps which use data. The apps returned errors.
Maybe your X10M fails to connect to the wifi? I actually have no idea what's going on.
you and me both buddy!
thanks for trying tho!
I'll delete the connection anyway and try set it up again....
"no batterry usage data available"
do I need to enable something to collect it?
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"no batterry usage data available"
do I need to enable something to collect it?
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I didn't need to enable anything to use that. Sorry, don't know how else to help.
well it carried on despite various fiddling. so I did a factory reset.... no accounts set up no sync etc - factory reset - and it's still happening??!! so something SE/Android is doing it, but I still have no idea what? Surely I'm not the only person with this issue??!! :S :S :S
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well it carried on despite various fiddling. so I did a factory reset.... no accounts set up no sync etc - factory reset - and it's still happening??!! so something SE/Android is doing it, but I still have no idea what? Surely I'm not the only person with this issue??!! :S :S :S
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very simple fix, go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > uncheck Data enabled.
that way mobile data (gprs,edge,3g) is turned off and your problem is solved. If you're using stock SE software, theres a Data Traffic widget that lets you toggle the Data Enabled setting on and off easily.
Sync is not the only thing using data traffic, background apps can too, as well as some of the apps she might be using. ( some apps have adverts )
Thanks. Had also been nosing on SE site, and am obviously not the only person with this problem. I unchecked the box a few hours ago, am hoping that that cures it. I've also found anotehr PAYG plan with the same provider that has unlimited internet, so may switch to that. So one way or another will be resolved.
However I am still left annoyed. This ****** device is supposed to be under MY contorl not the other way round! Not knowing what is doing this, or (and because of this) not being able to stop it is ****** annoying! As is the fact it (whatever "it" or "they" are) is using GPRS when there is an open wifi connection!!
Ho hum - progress eh...
Well turning off the Data seems to have done the trick thanks. NOt really satisfactory not knowing what is doing it, but there we go. Thanks for all the help all
If shes not using the data at all, you can try to delete all access points - GPRS,WAP, etc. even MMS...with no APN, no connection, no access to net, no credit loss...Just go to settings-wireless networks-mobile networks-access point names-click on any of them-press menu button and choose delete...Im working for the operator so I solve this kind of problems every day :-D It is easy if you dont want to use net in mobile at all but still I think you should flash it with SEUS because your problem is weird.
That's the thing - she does use data. so want it to be enabled. but the vast majority of the time is at home with a perfectly good wifi connection, so why won't it use that?!
Anyway am swapping to a PAYG tarriff promising "free" internet, so will see how that goes.
thanks t
searched, no find.
I have two consistent issues.
1 - When retrieving sites requiring a login, or when logging into LastPass, if I can get to the "Processing..." popup, it will hang and sit. Sometimes it will complete Processing... after a couple minutes, and sometimes it will continue until I kill the app. This issue is frequent, so restarting the app is not an acceptable workaround.
2 - When loading a page it will often do the same but without a popup. It will take forever to load, sometimes not at all. Occasionally I can reload the page and it will work, occasionally it will not load at until I reboot the phone or something.
these issues seem to occur frequently on home wifi. my PC, also on wifi, will load from these servers instantly.
i have had the issue on the following:
stock
Unnamed latest
Shostock latest
entropy dd latest, and last two
siyah latest and previous
with/without overclocking
with/without data enabled
affects all browsers, lastpass, tapatalk, xda premium, etc, etc.
caches cleared, including dalvik
no stress on the phone, running usually 250-500MB RAM only.
any ideas? the phone is basically unusable as a smartphone at home. the issues may or may not be as bad on regular data. TIA.
one more try... anyone help with this issue?
You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
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You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
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thanks for the reply.
the issue is inconsistent even at home. i have been watching for causal conditions but not finding anything yet. it does not appear to be my wifi. no other devices have ever had any kind of problem, and there have been many (i share the my wpa2 wifi with neighbors as well, many smartphones, etc). yes, the issue frequently affects me off wifi on data. and yes, it occurs at my office wifi as well. but the intermittent nature makes me think it's something with the phone's software, which is why i'm focused on figuring this out here. when it rains it pours, and i will have to reboot the phone, not just kill my browser or other app, in order to connect. sometimes rebooting more than once is required.
Have you tried a 'wipe data / factory reset' in ClockworkMod Recovery?
yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
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yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
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I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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Nope. Got it new with contract
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ok, mine is a refurb, but has not appeared to have even a single hardware issue. guess i'll continue to cycle new software and see if this eventually irons out. next step is to get more into the system settings and investigate. my initial guess is my phone is sending repeated requests in the background.
if anyone is interested, i may have found the problem. i'm no networking guru, but i changed my phone's DNS settings to OpenDNS's servers like my home router's config. previously my phone was using Google's DNS servers. after changing the phone to OpenDNS loads are consistent and snappy like every other box in the house. keeping an eye, but so far so good.
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Hey guys
I just installed the leaked AT&T ICS (the CWM version that's been posted), and so far everything's generally great.
However, ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been downloading data like crazy over WiFi. Oddly enough, this has happened on my phone before as well when I was using GB, and I believe it also occurred then right after a reinstall.
It's incredibly annoying because whatever the phone's downloading, it seems like it's using a lot of bandwidth because any other internet-related activities I try and do take *forever*. I've rebooted the phone several times, tried stopping every service that I can, and turned off all auto account sync stuff. It's been several hours since I installed ICS, and it's still going.
I'm going to let it sit overnight and see what it's doing in the morning, but even if this is only a temporary problem it's REALLY annoying. Especially since if it's not done doing whatever it's doing by morning, I won't be able to use cellular data on it because I only have the 200 MB plan and don't feel like losing my entire volume for the month because I can't stop my phone from downloading.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? Like I said I'm pretty sure this isn't an ICS-specific problem because it happened under 2.3.4 also, I just want to be able to shut down whatever's doing this excessive downloading. And I'd love to know *what* exactly is being downloaded that's it's taking so long and using so much bandwidth.
Thanks for any help you guys can lend
If you do switch to data to let it pull it down, you can use the data usage in the settings to see what app is doing it. My Data Manager (free in the Play Store) can also monitor data, on cell data and wifi. That would also tell you what app is doing it.
I would guess you either have a ton of data in your Google account, such as contacts, calendar, Gmail, or you have an app that is trying to sync data down. I'm guessing you are restoring apps, then notice the data draw. Think about any apps you have that may sync data back and forth. If you sign into your Google account at initial set up, it should (depending on settings) automatically download and install your apps. But, that should be apparent, you should see the downloads as it does them app by app.
All that is based on guesses of what I would consider "normal" behavior after installing a new ROM.
Good luck tracking it down. :thumbup:
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Settings > Data Usage
Check what is using it, and listing what APKs you added might help.
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If you do switch to data to let it pull it down, you can use the data usage in the settings to see what app is doing it. My Data Manager (free in the Play Store) can also monitor data, on cell data and wifi. That would also tell you what app is doing it.
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Or avoid all that and use the native ICS data monitor.
The weird thing is that I hadn't really done anything to the phone when it started using all the data. My Google account doesn't really have much in it (don't have a ton of contacts, don't use it to back up apps/etc.), and I think the only things I'd done app-wise were updating a couple preinstalled apps (Facebook and Maps, I think), but I hadn't installed anything new yet.
I installed My Data Manager, but it looks like it's already done whatever it was doing. Though, even now the download arrow is constantly lit up on WiFi, but I think whatever it's doing now has something to do with the network I'm on (dorm room) as I've noticed almost constant non-zero download bandwidth being used on my desktop as well when it's on the network. If I turn WiFi off now it isn't constantly using cellular data any more, so thankfully it looks like it's finished with whatever it was doing and the constant WiFi downloading is a network, not phone, issue.
On an unrelated note, I was going to reinstall a tethering app, but figured I'd give a try to the built-in tethering first (don't have a plan). On GB it wouldn't even let me start up the tethering without a plan IIRC, but under ICS the tethering not only starts up, I can even connect my laptop to it. Unfortunately I couldn't get internet access on my laptop though, so I'm guessing there's still a restriction on it. Just found it interesting that you can actually enable the tethering without a plan now.
But there's a more serious problem, however. Is ATT clamping down on third-party tethering? I used to use Barnacle WiFi Tether, so I went to install that from the market. Well, Play tells me the app isn't able to be installed on my device because of carrier restrictions (lame). No problem, I figure, I go to their website and download the apk from there and manually install.
Well, when I try and start tethering using Barnacle, it says "WiFi: Could not set ad-hoc mode of wlan0: Operation not supported on transport endpoint"
Does this mean I'm screwed? Will any third-party tethering apps work? To be honest I'm not really into trying out 5 million different ROMs on my phone and don't really mind TW at all, so I'd prefer to keep it stock. But I use my phone overseas and need to be able to use tethering, and if ATT is really clamping down on third-party apps then I'll be installing a completely stock kernel once one's easily available.
Thoughts? Anyone else experimented with tethering on UCLC2 yet?
Well, never mind regarding the tethering stuff - I'd still be interested anyway to know if ATT is trying to actively prevent you from using it in ICS, but I just flashed the SHOstock2 ROM and I gotta say I'm blown away. Even after using it for a half hour I'm pretty sure I'll never go back to stock again (I'm sure most of you would say DUH to that), has everything I'd want in a ROM and nothing I don't. Default tethering works right out of the box too, so I don't even have to worry about installing another app.
Only kinda weird thing is the data indicator keeps switching between H+ and 3G (I'd post on the actual ROM thread but I don't have 10 posts yet...). I'm only on the 200 MB data plan so I switched it to the wap.cingular APN, but even after doing that it still switches. Data seems fast - and I'm not one to be super-concerned with data speeds since I'm mostly just checking e-mail - so it's not a huge deal, but figured I'd mention it anyway.
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Well, never mind regarding the tethering stuff - I'd still be interested anyway to know if ATT is trying to actively prevent you from using it in ICS, but I just flashed the SHOstock2 ROM and I gotta say I'm blown away. Even after using it for a half hour I'm pretty sure I'll never go back to stock again (I'm sure most of you would say DUH to that), has everything I'd want in a ROM and nothing I don't. Default tethering works right out of the box too, so I don't even have to worry about installing another app.
Only kinda weird thing is the data indicator keeps switching between H+ and 3G (I'd post on the actual ROM thread but I don't have 10 posts yet...). I'm only on the 200 MB data plan so I switched it to the wap.cingular APN, but even after doing that it still switches. Data seems fast - and I'm not one to be super-concerned with data speeds since I'm mostly just checking e-mail - so it's not a huge deal, but figured I'd mention it anyway.
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The data switching is normal. The device idles on 3g to save battery and kicks up to 4g when it needs the speed. Stock roms hide this behavior by showing the 4g icon even on 3g
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Settings > Data Usage
Or avoid all that and use the native ICS data monitor.
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I never thought to press the menu key in there, there is no indication there are more options. By default it doesn't show wifi data, but on my TouchPad running CM9, that's all it shows. Guess I shouldn't have assumed the ICS wouldn't be without menu use fragmentation like every other android version.
Yeah, the data switching on a custom ROM is normal. Just showing you what the phone actually does. It can save power by reverting back to the 3G vs H when you are idle. The first thing most custom ROMs add is tethering on the built in method. If the leak let you start it up, I'm guessing its incomplete. I would bet att does the same in ICS as GB and has an app to check your account before letting you turn on tethering. Att can detect tethering on the back end too, so if you are caught they warn you first, but you can end up being put on the tethering plan if you keep tethering.
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Ahh, thanks for the info on the data switching, never knew about that!
I don't use tethering in the US, but I do overseas, which is why I was concerned about ATT blocking tethering apps. However, I realized it's probably not an issue anyway because I'm guessing that tethering wouldn't be blocked with a non-ATT SIM card. Anyway, SHOstock rocks, so it's all good
Also good to know that ICS can monitor WiFi traffic by default - didn't think to hit the settings button on that screen. I gotta admit, that's one huge interface design flaw of Android. There should be some kind of indicator on the screen when there's a menu available, really poor interface design choice to have to hit the menu button randomly to see if any menus are there.
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Also good to know that ICS can monitor WiFi traffic by default - didn't think to hit the settings button on that screen. I gotta admit, that's one huge interface design flaw of Android. There should be some kind of indicator on the screen when there's a menu available, really poor interface design choice to have to hit the menu button randomly to see if any menus are there.
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With new ICS developed devices, most don't include touch buttons... The Nexus for example (using on screen buttons) only shows a menu button when a menu is available...
Cheers.
ALSO- I also noticed what appears to be constant "spurts" of Wifi data usage as well (at least according to my Wifi status bar indicator)... It doesn't seem to affect my Mobile Data, and every data monitoring App (including stock ICS data monitoring) doesn't show the culprit, which leads me to believe that we may be dealing with a system app that is accessing data in the background almost constantly... But only on Wifi. Maybe a location service, or something to do with Syncing? I say system because not even stock Data Monitoring is recognizing an app using data...
Another reason I say this is because I pointlessly wiped my device and started over due to this... "bug"... Only to find that running stock CM9 (with no installed apps) my Wifi indicator still led me to believe my device as downloading spurts of data constantly.
I haven't been able to narrow it down, and am hoping that the issue is fixed in a future software update. - But it is more than likely not an app, just an ICS/CM9 bug.
UPDATE- Just checked a Samsung Epic 4G running CM9 and the bug isn't there... So, it's something specifically within our device and ICS... Again, maybe a System app or Kernel bug...
~So I haven't really seen anyone else with this issue so I don't know how to fix it.
My phone likes to randomly not load things via internet. Mostly happens with ATT Data connections, but sometimes it happens with Wifi as well I believe (hasn't happened with wifi in a long time).
I can try and load a page and it will simply not load a thing for a good while (sometimes hours), then all of a sudden it will load like it's on a 10MB connection.
Happens with the internet browser, facebook, and any internet apps. Really gets annoying when I'm trying to browse the internet
I have tried different APNs to no avail, tried turning wifi on/off, changing all wifi settings, etc.
Anyone got any suggestions? (Maybe I'm just retarded and there's a well-known fix for this... at least I can hope right?)
Thanks
EDIT: It also used to never send MMS until I changed APN's if that makes any difference. Just not sure if its a software/setting issue, or if its hardware that needs to be replaced.
There are two APN settings, one of which is used by MMS. It sounds as if your APN settings might have been wrong at one point. What are your APN settings now?
Are you on a different ROM? Do you use a 3rd party app to disable and enable the data connection (to save power)? I know my app sometimes doesn't turn the data back on, so I have to go in and do it myself.
Is this your first phone with AT&T? If so, where did you transfer form? Did you have a data plan with your previous carrier? Did you buy your phone from Amazon?
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~So I haven't really seen anyone else with this issue so I don't know how to fix it.
My phone likes to randomly not load things via internet. Mostly happens with ATT Data connections, but sometimes it happens with Wifi as well I believe (hasn't happened with wifi in a long time).
I can try and load a page and it will simply not load a thing for a good while (sometimes hours), then all of a sudden it will load like it's on a 10MB connection.
Happens with the internet browser, facebook, and any internet apps. Really gets annoying when I'm trying to browse the internet
I have tried different APNs to no avail, tried turning wifi on/off, changing all wifi settings, etc.
Anyone got any suggestions? (Maybe I'm just retarded and there's a well-known fix for this... at least I can hope right?)
Thanks
EDIT: It also used to never send MMS until I changed APN's if that makes any difference. Just not sure if its a software/setting issue, or if its hardware that needs to be replaced.
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There are two APN settings, one of which is used by MMS. It sounds as if your APN settings might have been wrong at one point. What are your APN settings now?
Are you on a different ROM? Do you use a 3rd party app to disable and enable the data connection (to save power)? I know my app sometimes doesn't turn the data back on, so I have to go in and do it myself.
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My APN settings are the "phone" HSPA and "phone" MMS settings from the large thread in this forum.
The phone isn't even rooted. No different ROM, just a stock phone. No 3rd party apps that disable/enable data.
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Is this your first phone with AT&T? If so, where did you transfer form? Did you have a data plan with your previous carrier? Did you buy your phone from Amazon?
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I've had ATT for a decade or so now. Phone bought and activated in an ATT store, and last phone I had was an iPhone, so whatever data plan that used was what I was previously using. I would assume they changed the plan to reflect the android device (if there is any difference), but I wouldn't really know because it is on our family account.
Anybody got any clue? This is really annoying the **** out of me. Also found out my brothers phone (on same family plan) is doing the same thing.
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Anybody got any clue? This is really annoying the **** out of me. Also found out my brothers phone (on same family plan) is doing the same thing.
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Maybe download Tweakker from the market; it automatically rewrites APN settings for your phone and carrier. CM7 uses wap.cingular, and I used Tweakker to change it from that. Worked, no probs, loved me long time, yada yada.
Thanks, just downloaded it. We'll see if it makes any difference.
Worked great until just now. Lost internet again. Thanks though.
Any other ideas?
i am on AOKP, not sure if you have the options to do the following in stock but try.
1.do you have the option of deleting APN? delete all...
2. force the phone to look for wireless carriers (takes like 4 minutes).
3. click on At&t to registet on it.
4. reboot and the original apn should be there.
I reset it back to the original APN but I dont expect it to help... I had the problem even before I started messing with the APN. We'll see how it goes though.
Any other suggestions are still welcome.
I have a similar, if not the same problem. I have concluded that it's either a modem/hardware issue or network issue. Every one and a while, I'll have to wait ~20 seconds for the internet. This always happens on AT&T data. Once the connection is made, the green and orange data indicators light up and the page loads just fine. Changing the APN's increases my internet speed by a lot, but does not fix the latency issue.
Someday I'll get around to calling AT&T.
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I have a similar, if not the same problem. I have concluded that it's either a modem/hardware issue or network issue. Every one and a while, I'll have to wait ~20 seconds for the internet. This always happens on AT&T data. Once the connection is made, the green and orange data indicators light up and the page loads just fine. Changing the APN's increases my internet speed by a lot, but does not fix the latency issue.
Someday I'll get around to calling AT&T.
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Sounds like the same issue to me.
I keep thinking I should go to the ATT store but I really dont feel like having them do a reset of my phone then send me home without actually fixing anything.
Have you noticed what kind of connection you have? I don't use stock, so I haven't thoroughly tested this there, but I believe I experience the same issue. I'm running CyanogenMod 7, and what I see is that whenever the phone drops to 3G, I don't get data. I can force 2G (Edge), which works, and if I pick up HSPA+, I get data. If I'm in fairly sketchy signal areas (bad parts of buildings, fairly far from towers, etc.), I'll notice it flip-flopping back and forth between 3G and H+, with no data. I've never had an issue with wifi not properly loading anything.
I did try switching back to stock for a couple of hours, and it appeared my issues were more along the lines of what you describe, without actually displaying a flip to 3G when I can't get data...but like I said, I don't use stock on a regular basis.
NINJA EDIT: I'm on my second phone with this issue, after getting a refurb due to a USB port going bad. I've tried flashing multiple modems, and have been able to increase my speed, but have not been able to fix the issue when I drop to 3G.
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Have you noticed what kind of connection you have? I don't use stock, so I haven't thoroughly tested this there, but I believe I experience the same issue. I'm running CyanogenMod 7, and what I see is that whenever the phone drops to 3G, I don't get data. I can force 2G (Edge), which works, and if I pick up HSPA+, I get data. If I'm in fairly sketchy signal areas (bad parts of buildings, fairly far from towers, etc.), I'll notice it flip-flopping back and forth between 3G and H+, with no data. I've never had an issue with wifi not properly loading anything.
I did try switching back to stock for a couple of hours, and it appeared my issues were more along the lines of what you describe, without actually displaying a flip to 3G when I can't get data...but like I said, I don't use stock on a regular basis.
NINJA EDIT: I'm on my second phone with this issue, after getting a refurb due to a USB port going bad. I've tried flashing multiple modems, and have been able to increase my speed, but have not been able to fix the issue when I drop to 3G.
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Im in an area where I constantly get 4G or LTE... I haven't really noticed a correlation between the drops and whether or not its on 4G/LTE. I haven't experienced it on Wifi in a very long time though.
Also, the stock APN seems to magnify the problems greatly. Switched back to the Tweakker APN and it runs much better (although it still happens occasionally)
Had the same issue as you, try my guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576199 it seems to have helped many!
Sent from my AT&T Galaxy S II (I777) Killin' it with Task650's awesome AOKP ROM port!
Thanks but the Tweakker APN seems to have solved the internet issues. Only problem now is that MMS doesn't work with the Tweakker APN. Anyone got any suggestions on that?