I just had a few questions about my new Evo 3D... I've been looking on the forum. but haven't found anything... So I thought I'd Ask..
Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
Is the 3D camera/video supposed to constantly auto focus over and over? i can see maybe it needs to due to the 2 cameras. but it kinda gets annoying, when trying to take a pic.. haha.
Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
I believe that the screen has to be looked at horizontally because of the 3d technology the screen uses? Kind of like certain types of polarized 3d glasses. The 3d effect isn't the same when you look at the screen when it is vertical.
DevXen said:
Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
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Settings--> Display--> Auto-rotate screen
DevXen said:
Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
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I'm only 99% sure of this one. I believe the 3D only works in landscape mode because the the cameras need to be in a horizontal fashion to take a 3D picture. The camera's have to be side by side instead of top and bottom.
I suppose if you took the picture in portrait, then were able to turn your phone horizontally without rotating the screen that you'd be able to view a portrait 3D picture, but then your picture would be sideways.
Whatever the case, the cameras need to be side by side. That is the nature of stereoscopic images. Ever seen a Magic Eye picture? Imagine trying to see the hidden image in portrait. Not possible.
DevXen said:
Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
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I do like the 3D, but I really only like it when watching movies in 3D (i.e. Green Hornet) and when watching certain YouTube 3D videos. The videos made with higher end 3D camera equipment look really cool. The ones shot from Evo 3D don't look as good to me.
look at the layout of the lenses. If you tilt it on it's side it would be like tilting your head to the side. not to mention the 3D is more a fun gimmick than a primary use feature.
the only way they could take a 3D portrait picture would be if the lenses rotated to keep them horizontal.
the UI does not rotate does not do landscape, the one you were using was a port of either the desire z or shift that allows it due to the hardware keyboard.
i am sure it will be one of the first ports once we get root.
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
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DevXen said:
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
... Dev
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Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
gk1984 said:
Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
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Cool man thanks for the advice.. i'll look into it.
DevXen said:
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
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If I were you, I'd invest in a 32 GB SD card if you want optimal quality photos. As you probably already know, the more you compress a photo's file size, the more the quality of the picture degrades, especially with the JPEG file format. The JPEG file format, which is used on all the cameras I've played with so far, can compress an image down to a really low file size, but at the same time the picture quality degrades. The JPEG format also suffers from generation loss, meaning every time you decode and encode an image into the JPEG format, you lose quality. Personally, I prefer the PNG format over other formats since it uses lossless compression, but I don't think the EVO 3D's camera has an option to save in that format. The downside of the PNG format is that the file sizes are still larger than the JPEG format, but it's significantly smaller than the RAW format.
But then again, you're using a phone camera. If you were using a professional or high end amateur camera, I'm pretty sure things would be different. Basically what I want you to take from this is to try to avoid compressing/decompressing JPEG images often. It degrades the picture quality. I only wish the EVO 3D could save images in PNG format since it uses lossless compression.
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What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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#2 won't work.
5mp+5mp doesn't = 10mp
10mp would be like taking the first 5mp shot and attaching the 2nd 5mp shot by a corner to one of the corners of the first shot.
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111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
_________|__________
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |_________|
Assuming the boxes with the 1's in them are 5mp each, a 10mp box would be made by making lines enclosing the 2 other boxes - where the X's are.
With the 2x5mp cameras, you'd only have 1/2 the data necessary to create a 10mp picture.
Technical talk aside...
I think it would be cool to invert the 3-d...
To take a picture of someone's head and "pop it inside out" so that their nose was the furthest point AWAY from you, rather than the closest.
I don't know if this would be as simple as swapping the two images or not - so the right displays on the left and the left displays on the right.
Nothing like playing with someone's mind by inverting the way they think the world is and showing it to them =D
Kalah, 5mp+5mp does indeed equal 10mp. Your way of thinking is a little skewed though. The pictures would come up essentially the same way the 3d pictures will be displayed on the phone normally (ignore the - signs, they are just for formatting since the site will delete extra spaces):
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111+222222=121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
The picture doesn't show a larger area, just a higher pixel density. The problem is this will only work for distant photos as they are taken from just slightly different angles.
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Kalah, 5mp+5mp does indeed equal 10mp. Your way of thinking is a little skewed though. The pictures would come up essentially the same way the 3d pictures will be displayed on the phone normally (ignore the - signs, they are just for formatting since the site will delete extra spaces):
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111+222222=121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
111111-222222- 121212121212
The picture doesn't show a larger area, just a higher pixel density. The problem is this will only work for distant photos as they are taken from just slightly different angles.
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Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
I'd love to see some great high quality 3D Augmented Reality apps that incorporate 3D. I'm sure there would be good money interactive 3D AR. I know it's cheesy and all, but those little pet games are very popular (personally not a fan). One thing that I would find absolutely fantastic is an app that allows you to draw or create cool 3D shapes in AR. When you close out of the app, all your drawings save and when you open it again you can continue creating awesome stuff and building an alternate digital reality splattered with your creativity. And it would be vital to add in a feature so you can add friends so you can share your world with them.
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What would you like to see/think would be cool/only possible with the Evo 3D?
1. Dual focus images: Not sure how well this would work or how well the effect would even be perceived, but independently focus each camera when taking a 2D image (obviously requires someone to figure out how to use both cameras in 2D mode). Possibly result in a easy Tilt Shift photo.
2. 10mp image: Doubt this one is even possible really, but stitching an image from each camera together.
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1) both images are offset as they are taken from different points, wouldn't work
2) again, different angles of the same image, wouldn't work
Kalash said:
Technical talk aside...
I think it would be cool to invert the 3-d...
To take a picture of someone's head and "pop it inside out" so that their nose was the furthest point AWAY from you, rather than the closest.
I don't know if this would be as simple as swapping the two images or not - so the right displays on the left and the left displays on the right.
Nothing like playing with someone's mind by inverting the way they think the world is and showing it to them =D
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turn the phone upside down
or, open the mpo file in something like "stereophoto maker" (freeware), press "x" (swaps images round) and save the new mpo file back to the phone. (am sure there will be an app to do this eventually)
Bonerman5000 said:
I'd love to see some great high quality 3D Augmented Reality apps that incorporate 3D.
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Wikitude 3D world browser already announced for Optimus 3D a month or 2 ago http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/wik...-first-3d-augmented-reality-browser-50003709/
Should be easy enough to do for Evo 3D
Kalash said:
#2 won't work.
5mp+5mp doesn't = 10mp
10mp would be like taking the first 5mp shot and attaching the 2nd 5mp shot by a corner to one of the corners of the first shot.
_________
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
111111111 |xxxxxxxxxx
_________|__________
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |1111111111|
xxxxxxxxx |_________|
Assuming the boxes with the 1's in them are 5mp each, a 10mp box would be made by making lines enclosing the 2 other boxes - where the X's are.
With the 2x5mp cameras, you'd only have 1/2 the data necessary to create a 10mp picture.
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Seriously if people were this helpful and informative on xda it will have more members than facebook.
You sir, will have your thanks button clicked
Kalash said:
Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
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Again, you don't really understand what "megapixels" means. It is already width x height in the picture. Example: 1000 px x 1000 px = 1,000,000 px or 1MP
If you double one dimension, you double the MP of a photo. I didn't say you made it "twice as big." Yes, I agree that when people say twice as big they usually mean twice the height and twice the width, which is really 4x as big.
on to a different camera idea i just thought about.....
you know when you try to take a picture inside of a moving subject and it always blurs due to lights and ****. wonder if you could make an app that fires the cameras a split second from each other and you can choose one of the better pics
Kalash said:
Alright... Kindof.
You can get 10mp across, but your vertical resolution wouldn't increase. You'd get some really wide pictures.
To double the size of a photo, you have to quadruple the pixels... Not double them.
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You could also do something like this (ignore "-" sign):
11111 - 22222 - 1*1*1*1*1*
11111 - 22222 - *2*2*2*2*2
11111 + 22222 = 1*1*1*1*1* -where each "*" is a virtual pixel value, which is
11111 - 22222 - *2*2*2*2*2 -approximated by taking some sort of average
11111 - 22222 - 1*1*1*1*1* -between the neighboring (left right bottom)
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2 -top) actual pixel values.
---------------- 1*1*1*1*1*
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2
---------------- 1*1*1*1*1*
---------------- *2*2*2*2*2
simplest approximation would be * = (right + left +top + bottom)/4.
Using two camera for 2d shoot can have only benefit in focus and sharpness, because 80% of picture is same on bouth cameras
The 3D is nice and all, but the dual camera seems like it ought to have real potential:
1) HDR (High Dynamic Range) photos
2) Accurate? distance measuring
3) 3D model generation
4) Facial security for lock screen - 3D based, so can't be faked with a photo
5) "Corrected" 2D photos - use the differences between dual photos to filter out artifacts? Better low light photos / night vision?
6) Action shooting (alternate cameras for faster snap shotting?)
7) "Hand" lock screen? (take a 3D photo of your hand, to unlock your phone?)
Just throwing stuff out there I haven't a clue on how to actually create any of those, or even if they're possible.
munsterrr said:
on to a different camera idea i just thought about.....
you know when you try to take a picture inside of a moving subject and it always blurs due to lights and ****. wonder if you could make an app that fires the cameras a split second from each other and you can choose one of the better pics
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Try fast burst camera from the market. Doesn't use both camera's but takes pictures quite fast.
New idea?
i thought creating 3D icons... and use the 3D cam. to create a wallpaper of the image the camera see in 3D in combination i think that looks cool.
http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/2...-to-use-your-camera-as-your-iphone-wallpaper/ example
I would like to have some image effects on the 3D pictures... kinda like HDR and Vintage or Black and white 3D pics.
3D Video Chat!
We already have 3D video recording so something like live video chat does not seem like too much of a leap. Most video chat programs don't support the front camera of the Evo4g let alone the Evo3D. Having a program that specifically targets the Evo3D for 3D video chat would be an amazing feature to compliment this awesome phone.
Cheers!
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We already have 3D video recording so something like live video chat does not seem like too much of a leap. Most video chat programs don't support the front camera of the Evo4g let alone the Evo3D. Having a program that specifically targets the Evo3D for 3D video chat would be an amazing feature to compliment this awesome phone.
Cheers!
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What video chat apps don't support the 3D's front camera? Yahoo, Tango, Fring, Skype, and Qik all do, that only leaves Oovoo. Plus the front camera won't do 3D, it wouldn't be video chat, you could stream live in 3D though.
Find the difference between two 3D pictures
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3d drawing/spin art.
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I am no dev, so wouldn't even know where to start, but am I mistaken in thinking that it would be possible to create an app that utilizes both cameras while taking pictures and then overlapping them to create a 10 MP file? I am plenty satisfied with the 5 MP 2D as well as 3D pics and movie, just thinking we may be able to get a little more out of this bad boy that we could share on sites like Facebook.
I know that the 3D pics will be flattened on their own to 2D when you try to upload to FB, but it seems that it simply cuts one of the images to create a smaller file and doesn't overlap them.
Thoughts?
Oh...and congrats and thanks to #TeamWin for pwning this beast and all of the devs for their continued help and support!
It wouldn't work the 2 cameras are slightly angled to achieve the 3d effect so if you flattened the image it would be a blurry image
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How about two pics at the same time with different exposure settings.
Automatically merge the two images together for a dynamic photo.
The gallery already lets you convert the 3d into 2d.... It takes both images and does what you're asking.
IMO, it makes the 2d image look blurry after doing so.
I'd rather just get it on my computer and take the left (in focus image it seems to be) as it is more clear.
If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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The IMAX Hubble 3D is really good too. the depth is almost too much. but great none the less.
Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
Where can i get it?
.mkv works on evo?
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.mkv works on evo?
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Use the free app Handbrake to convert it to mp4. Search the forum, there are step by step instructions posted.
Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/345384-3d-pop-out-clarified-violations-lead-discomfort.html
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I spoke with my neighborhood stereoscopy expert (30-years of experience, custom-built camera rig, home-theater setup with polarized projectors, etc.) and learned quite a bit about 3D imagery. Thought I'd share some general facts and other factors that cause eye strain and headaches.
Regarding images that pop out: already proven possible with the screen technology. But will the phone's camera be able to capture a subject and then show it popping out? Most likely, but not guaranteed.
In another thread, I incorrectly concluded that the focal point determines the threshold where things pop out or appear behind the screen. Actually that threshold is fixed based on the distance between the lens and the offset of the sensors behind the lenses. I have no visibility into how the E3D's sensors are set, so there's no way to guess what the zero parallax line lies. However, once the phone is released, it will be trivial to determine this by taking a picture of a ruler (or tape measure) that extends from the camera. If you overlay the stereo images in photoshop, the ruler will appear as a thin X. Where the convergence of the X is on the ruler will be the zero parallax line (aka point of convergence).
Objects farther from zero parallax will appear behind the display; objects closer will appear to pop out from the screen.
This article makes it really simple to understand:
STEREOSCOPIC (3D) FILMMAKING OVERVIEW Part 2
Commonly, the distance between cameras (aka the stereo base) is set to the human interocular distance (distance between human eyes), which is about 2.5". But there's no real reason why this needs to be enforced; it really depends on the scale of your subject. If you're taking a picture of insects, your camera lenses should be much closer together. If you're taking a picture of the grand canyon, the cameras should be very far apart. Again, that article above talks about why you may want to use cameras that are further apart. But a moot point for E3D since we can't adjust the cameras. But given that the Evo's cameras are kinda close together, the best 3D shots will be with subjects closer to the screen.
Onto the discomfort.
My source tells me that pop-out is actually not very desirable for two reasons:
1) it causes eye strain due to the need to focus on a point close to the eyes (cross-eye). Prolonged cross-eye is not comfortable.
2) when a pop-out object is cropped by the edge of the screen, our brain freaks out because it conflicts with reality. The object should appear in front of the edge and not be cut off. This is considered a violation of good stereoscopy and should be avoided.
Another violation is an exaggeration of depth where the distance between stereo images exceeds the interocular distance. This isn't going to be a problem with the Evo 3D's images, but this is much more common in a theater. Film producers sometimes push the limit to try to give the scene maximum depth by spacing out the parallax images. This can trigger instant headaches. Also if you sit too close to the screen, the problem becomes amplified.
He rattled off a few more violations that I can't recall, but basically he says that the violations are what make 3D gimmicky, and it's also responsible for the discomfort and inability to see in 3D for some subset of the public. When the rules of stereoscopy are obeyed, the results are spectacular and comfortable to view, because they simulate depth realistically.
Just sharing for those of you actually interested in the 3D capabilities of the phone.
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Thanks for the link and info on 3D. That was a pretty good read. I definitely feel the discomfort of items that pop out and are cut off by the boarder of the screen. Very surreal.
dca1970 said:
Where can i get it?
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You can get it from here but you'll have to convert it using Handbrake which is free.
Here's a tutorial:
I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
gthing said:
I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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You have to hit the menu button and switch to 3D mode.
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
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Hmm ... thanks for your feedback. I tried watching the movie on my desktop and found it was messed up there as well, so it's not an issue with the phone player. I tested both aac encoders, the lame mp3 encoder, and even ac3 (each at various bitrates) with the same result. The original video (mkv) plays fine...
Edit: I tried another video and the settings worked fine. Not sure what the deal is with this particular video (Hubble 3D).
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You have to hit the menu button and switch to 3D mode.
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Thanks that worked
Wait so besides you can "look into" like a box, images can also "jump out"?
Nice!!! Or not, if i read that article lol.
daveeckert said:
Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
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Wow - you're right. That part looks amazing! I'm going to try to rip just that clip tonight and put it up on Youtube so everyone else can see it.
As a side note, I've found that the angle to view 3d on my phone is not straight on. I have to hold it at a bit of an angle with the right side of the phone further away from my face than the left. Is that what everyone else is finding or are you guys viewing things pretty much dead on?
el_chamuco said:
Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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SBS or Side-By-Side is the key search term to find 3D movies. Just go to one of the usual places and search it.
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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Please for all of us. Just go get the LG.
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liljacques said:
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
ian928 said:
The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Everything he said. Also, with some 3d software, you can adjust the depth of field.
ian928 said:
The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes, the depth will be the same if you watch the same files on any of these devices. The screen can't change the media, only the media itself can change.
Do some reattach on how 3d stuff works and you will see what I mean.
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borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes absolutely the evo 3d, optimus 3d, and the 3ds will have the exact same 3d effect when viewing the same source file, such as avatar 3d or any other prerecorded media.
What people are referring to when they say the optimus has more depth or the evo has more popout is the pictures and video created by the phone. Since the evo's cameras are father apart the two phones will create a different 3d effect even when taking a picture in the exact same location with both phones. This difference is due to the 3d cameras and has absolutely nothing to do with the screen.
The 3d effect simply cannot have any difference in depth when viewing the same prerecorded media. Do a little more research into how 3d works and you will understand this better.
people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
You are referring to the differences in the cameras, not the screens. Optimus photos viewed on the evo will have the same depth as when they are viewed on the optimus. All these phones are doing is showing two 2d pictures on the same screen at the same time while blocking the opposite eye from seeing the other pic. The same 3d source will have the same 3d effect on both phones. The same source has the same two pics when viewed on either screen and therefore cannot have a different 3d effect.
Now if we are talking about different sources then of course the 3d effect can be different.
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Only true if one assumes that both handsets are using a parallax barrier of the same quality which works equally effective. This doesn't seem to be the case. (3d images on the O3D are supposed to be more crisp and the viewing angle is supposed to be wider as well)
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seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
The viewing angles may well be better on the optimus but when you're in the sweet spot on the evo there is absolutely no bleed over from the other image. This can be seen be winking each eye independently. Therefore the parallax barrier isn't effecting the amount of depth in the 3d when viewed properly.
The amount of depth is determined by the source not the screen. I suspect when people say the optimus has better 3d they're either not viewing the same source on both or they're referring to viewing angles which has nothing to do with the amount of depth in the 3d effect.
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people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
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How can a less crisp screen be more crisp? Hhmm
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Well thanks guys but at least with the 3ds it is possible to set the depth/power of the 3d effect. Maybe the optimus is set higher then the evo3d?
And will there be a fix so the evo3d takes better 3d photos?
It seems everyone agrees the optimus3d is better in that...
Most 3d games you can adjust it. When viewing a picture tap the picture select effects and adjust the 3d alignment to your hearts content. Make it appear far away or make it popout.
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3d games are very different than pictures and video. They are computer generated and therefore the 3d effect can be easily adjusted on the fly. I have two 3d games on my evo and both can be adjusted over quite a large range from off to a lot of depth.
Pictures and video are a different animal. On the evo you can adjust the overlay of the pictures, which is just sliding one pic to the left and the other to the right. Now this does change the amount of depth but on most pictures there is only one point where the image looks correct without the other image bleeding over. This feature is there to compensate for the evo's, cameras being unable to swivel like your eyes. The cameras can't go crosseyed like your eyes can when viewing something close to your face. Some images will get the other image bleeding over and this feature allows you to compensate til there is none.
The problem is everyone here seems to think some super quality screen on one beats the other. Lol.
Ignorant.
People don't even see 3d the same. Certain types of 3d may effect someone more or less than another.
The LG simply assist with focussing on the 3d content.
Thus the content appears smoother more in depth. When really as you adjust. The LG cleary does too.
That would help eliminate the card board effect somewhat.
I'm not a doctor. Technologist is more fitting.
Sometimes an analytical view can assist in providing a better understanding of a competitors technical advantage.
This technology will be used by all manufacturers soon.
Then Apple will pull a patent out their ass or some bull**** rebrand it and call it the new hotness your grandma wish she lived long enough to have.
Apple will get its way and we will all get the iPhone.
Of course by 5 years time Apple would of purchased Android.
Rebranded it.
Send it out in pieces.
Call it the new hotness you wish you would of lived long enough to have.
Sorry some dork shiet. But you get it. I think.
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Hi guys!
Please Have a look attached file and advice me.
Is my evo 3d faulty? or common?
Need your help and opinion.
Thanks!
bboori said:
Hi guys!
Please Have a look attached file and advice me.
Is my evo 3d faulty? or common?
Need your help and opinion.
Thanks!
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Never heard of this before .. according to your screenshot and your "good" and "bad" pictures, there appears to be an issue. where did you obtain the "good" picture from? do you have two evo 3d devices you're comparing side by side?
Suppose if you wanted to add measurements on the physical gap between the two cameras along with the screenshots, then others could also measure the gap between their cameras and post their results.
Measuring the gap seems to be a pretty quantitative method of analyzing the issue.
Keep us updated!
joeykrim said:
Never heard of this before .. according to your screenshot and your "good" and "bad" pictures, there appears to be an issue. where did you obtain the "good" picture from? do you have two evo 3d devices you're comparing side by side?
Suppose if you wanted to add measurements on the physical gap between the two cameras along with the screenshots, then others could also measure the gap between their cameras and post their results.
Measuring the gap seems to be a pretty quantitative method of analyzing the issue.
Keep us updated!
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3d photos from other web site for your understand.
coz I'm not good at speaking english. ^^; so I made it
But I can say My 3d photos are always like wrong 3d style. it makes headach. T.T
And please googleing about 3d photography than you will know which is good 3d photo. ^^
Thanks.
That picture of your camera is not square. You need to center the camera over the red square
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did you drop the phone at all. that looks like a probelm.
No I didn't..
Ignore a camera picture.
How is your photo look like?
you guys got 3d photo like a good 3d sample?
tell me and post your photo please.
I'd like to compare it.
Thanks.
Comparison
Ok, I think the position of both cameras are unimportant because. I think most of the corrections and overlaping of the images taken from the cameras and creating the 3d effect are software made (thats my opinion and my guess as an Electronic Engenieer). But I can't be sure because i wasn't in the design of the phone :S, jajaja... and I haven't even study about this process...
But I'll tell you what would I do for determining the problem.
The problem could be the display too... So i'd try taking a 3d pic and then look at it in other 3d device (maybe another evo 3d).
If the image is still the same, I'd try update firmware or Rom... or something in the phone software...
Think about the cameras, they are like eyes... and think about people, some have a larger space between the eyes than others and no one is perfect like your phone. It's the brain that fixes itself to watch the world in the better way.
If you have headache watching 3d pics, also you could be the problem jejeje... because you are not used to the watch it (like my father). Ask someone else if they have the same problem when watching 3d pics in your phone.
No no, that's not what I'm trying to say. ummm..
For example..If you want to take a 3d photo by 2 normal cameras. you must take a photo same level(horizontaly) of balance. because humen eyes like it.
if not same level of camera makes wrong 3D style of my smaple photo. Yes!! you can see this wrong 3d with 3d effect but it is not proepr method of take 3d photo. also gogleling LG3d camera photo sample. it is alligned verticaly.
I'm not good at speaking Eng. But I hope you guys understand what i'm talking to.
Thanks.
Maybe I don't understand what it takes to take a 3d pic.
Just think it's more like a software issue.
Also, the distance of the camera you are complaining about would result in a much more ugly photo because a little radious is higher at the distance.
When you are going to take a photo before you push the trigger, do you still see the it in a bad shape?
I also speak in Spanish, I'm from Mexico.
Feel free if it's easier in spanish but not in the forum, jejeje...
Please have a look this article.
Rotational and Vertical Disparities in Source Footage
Disparities corrected so all straight lines are parallel
Unwelcome Disparities (Geometric, lens and temporal)
Disparity is a “dirty word” for stereographers. In fact the only “good” type of disparity in S3D is horizontal disparity between the left and right eye images. As mentioned before, this is known as parallax.
Any other type of disparity in your image (vertical, rotational, zoom, keystone or temporal) will cause the viewers eyes to strain to accommodate. This can break the 3D effect and cause muscular pain in the viewer’s eyes or even nausea. Every stereographer will strive to avoid these disparities on set by carefully calibrating the steroescopic rig and it will be tweaked ever further in post production through the use of 3D mastering software.
From : http://www.dashwood3d.com/blog/beginners-guide-to-shooting-stereoscopic-3d/
So I think our camera has got Vertical Disparities problem. or my camera only?
If it is software problem. how can I adjust it? and finally don't you have this Vertical Disparities problem?
PS. You will not be able to 'see' this problem on your mobile screen, not until you put it on YouTube and can see what's going on when viewing anaglyph with no glasses on your pc. than You will notice it.
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can you send me a pic taken from your phone?
I don't see any problems with mine.
fcomeba said:
can you send me a pic taken from your phone?
I don't see any problems with mine.
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Here is mine http://db.tt/N1d0DdEA