If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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The IMAX Hubble 3D is really good too. the depth is almost too much. but great none the less.
Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
Where can i get it?
.mkv works on evo?
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.mkv works on evo?
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Use the free app Handbrake to convert it to mp4. Search the forum, there are step by step instructions posted.
Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/345384-3d-pop-out-clarified-violations-lead-discomfort.html
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I spoke with my neighborhood stereoscopy expert (30-years of experience, custom-built camera rig, home-theater setup with polarized projectors, etc.) and learned quite a bit about 3D imagery. Thought I'd share some general facts and other factors that cause eye strain and headaches.
Regarding images that pop out: already proven possible with the screen technology. But will the phone's camera be able to capture a subject and then show it popping out? Most likely, but not guaranteed.
In another thread, I incorrectly concluded that the focal point determines the threshold where things pop out or appear behind the screen. Actually that threshold is fixed based on the distance between the lens and the offset of the sensors behind the lenses. I have no visibility into how the E3D's sensors are set, so there's no way to guess what the zero parallax line lies. However, once the phone is released, it will be trivial to determine this by taking a picture of a ruler (or tape measure) that extends from the camera. If you overlay the stereo images in photoshop, the ruler will appear as a thin X. Where the convergence of the X is on the ruler will be the zero parallax line (aka point of convergence).
Objects farther from zero parallax will appear behind the display; objects closer will appear to pop out from the screen.
This article makes it really simple to understand:
STEREOSCOPIC (3D) FILMMAKING OVERVIEW Part 2
Commonly, the distance between cameras (aka the stereo base) is set to the human interocular distance (distance between human eyes), which is about 2.5". But there's no real reason why this needs to be enforced; it really depends on the scale of your subject. If you're taking a picture of insects, your camera lenses should be much closer together. If you're taking a picture of the grand canyon, the cameras should be very far apart. Again, that article above talks about why you may want to use cameras that are further apart. But a moot point for E3D since we can't adjust the cameras. But given that the Evo's cameras are kinda close together, the best 3D shots will be with subjects closer to the screen.
Onto the discomfort.
My source tells me that pop-out is actually not very desirable for two reasons:
1) it causes eye strain due to the need to focus on a point close to the eyes (cross-eye). Prolonged cross-eye is not comfortable.
2) when a pop-out object is cropped by the edge of the screen, our brain freaks out because it conflicts with reality. The object should appear in front of the edge and not be cut off. This is considered a violation of good stereoscopy and should be avoided.
Another violation is an exaggeration of depth where the distance between stereo images exceeds the interocular distance. This isn't going to be a problem with the Evo 3D's images, but this is much more common in a theater. Film producers sometimes push the limit to try to give the scene maximum depth by spacing out the parallax images. This can trigger instant headaches. Also if you sit too close to the screen, the problem becomes amplified.
He rattled off a few more violations that I can't recall, but basically he says that the violations are what make 3D gimmicky, and it's also responsible for the discomfort and inability to see in 3D for some subset of the public. When the rules of stereoscopy are obeyed, the results are spectacular and comfortable to view, because they simulate depth realistically.
Just sharing for those of you actually interested in the 3D capabilities of the phone.
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Thanks for the link and info on 3D. That was a pretty good read. I definitely feel the discomfort of items that pop out and are cut off by the boarder of the screen. Very surreal.
dca1970 said:
Where can i get it?
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You can get it from here but you'll have to convert it using Handbrake which is free.
Here's a tutorial:
I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
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I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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You have to hit the menu button and switch to 3D mode.
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
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Hmm ... thanks for your feedback. I tried watching the movie on my desktop and found it was messed up there as well, so it's not an issue with the phone player. I tested both aac encoders, the lame mp3 encoder, and even ac3 (each at various bitrates) with the same result. The original video (mkv) plays fine...
Edit: I tried another video and the settings worked fine. Not sure what the deal is with this particular video (Hubble 3D).
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Thanks that worked
Wait so besides you can "look into" like a box, images can also "jump out"?
Nice!!! Or not, if i read that article lol.
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Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
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Wow - you're right. That part looks amazing! I'm going to try to rip just that clip tonight and put it up on Youtube so everyone else can see it.
As a side note, I've found that the angle to view 3d on my phone is not straight on. I have to hold it at a bit of an angle with the right side of the phone further away from my face than the left. Is that what everyone else is finding or are you guys viewing things pretty much dead on?
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Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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SBS or Side-By-Side is the key search term to find 3D movies. Just go to one of the usual places and search it.
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I just had a few questions about my new Evo 3D... I've been looking on the forum. but haven't found anything... So I thought I'd Ask..
Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
Is the 3D camera/video supposed to constantly auto focus over and over? i can see maybe it needs to due to the 2 cameras. but it kinda gets annoying, when trying to take a pic.. haha.
Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
I believe that the screen has to be looked at horizontally because of the 3d technology the screen uses? Kind of like certain types of polarized 3d glasses. The 3d effect isn't the same when you look at the screen when it is vertical.
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Isn't Sense 3.0 supposed to support landscape mode on the UI? (is there an option to enable this? - 2.1, I think Supported this on my OG E4G.
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Settings--> Display--> Auto-rotate screen
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Why does the 3D only work in Landscape mode? .. like if I take a pic in 3D, it will only take the pic if I have the phone tilted to landscape. which is crazy to me. Many shots look better from the portrait angle. which is refuses to take pictures that way. my thinking is. if its 3D. wouldn't the orientation not matter? and worse case scenario if it did. so I have a pic that you view sideways. But i'd still have my better angle picture, right?
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I'm only 99% sure of this one. I believe the 3D only works in landscape mode because the the cameras need to be in a horizontal fashion to take a 3D picture. The camera's have to be side by side instead of top and bottom.
I suppose if you took the picture in portrait, then were able to turn your phone horizontally without rotating the screen that you'd be able to view a portrait 3D picture, but then your picture would be sideways.
Whatever the case, the cameras need to be side by side. That is the nature of stereoscopic images. Ever seen a Magic Eye picture? Imagine trying to see the hidden image in portrait. Not possible.
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Other than those issues, I've loved the phone. the 3D is better then I thought it'd be. a lil weird/different to get used to. I love the speed, it restored my texts from my previous phone, and deleting threads took seconds, not hours. that was really nice.
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I do like the 3D, but I really only like it when watching movies in 3D (i.e. Green Hornet) and when watching certain YouTube 3D videos. The videos made with higher end 3D camera equipment look really cool. The ones shot from Evo 3D don't look as good to me.
look at the layout of the lenses. If you tilt it on it's side it would be like tilting your head to the side. not to mention the 3D is more a fun gimmick than a primary use feature.
the only way they could take a 3D portrait picture would be if the lenses rotated to keep them horizontal.
the UI does not rotate does not do landscape, the one you were using was a port of either the desire z or shift that allows it due to the hardware keyboard.
i am sure it will be one of the first ports once we get root.
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
... Dev
DevXen said:
thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
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Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
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Ok, for the photo compression question (if you still have it) I can point you in the right direction, but don't exactly have a solid solution for you. I use Photoshop and that has a feature to compress images. If you have that, great. But it's not worth getting just to compress photos. But the tool is "optimize for web." This strips the photo of all extra bits that won't be necessary. You'd want to be close to that 960x540 resolution too. Maybe try searching for photo optimizing software, possibly something geared to preparing photos for a website. If you find something and it asks how heavily to compress a jpeg on a number scale, usually 8 is a good starting point.
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Cool man thanks for the advice.. i'll look into it.
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thank you for the replies guys.. i knew it'd be a good idea to ask here..
I did have another question.. I want to put thousands of pictures on my evo. (friends, pets, guitars, live concert pics, funny pics, illusions, etc) .. years ago, when I had my Palm Centro. I found, I was able to compress the images. and keep fairly good quality for that screen.. i was able to drop 2meg pics down to like 37k in filesize .. i was able to fit a couple thousand pictures on the sd card there, and it was somethinge like 300 megs.. it was nice.. i tried to copy those to my Ipod classic. and i guess the Ipod, did'nt like that.. as it re-created the pics bigger. but i can only assume to better fit that screen. so I was bummed out..
anyhow.. I would like to put many pics on my Evo 3D like that, but cut size. though keep relatively decent quality. if i open it on my evo, i'd like it to be full screen and clear... but compressed down from the 900k-2megs that the camera, or even the Evo 4G did..
Does anyone have any recommendations on either what resolution/quality to convert the pics too? / a program to do it? / advice?
I found a tutorial on converting video to work best on the evo. and it says: Set the EVO 3D Width and Height (the EVO 3D supports a maximum of 960 x 540 pixels) .. so that makes sense for video.. but not for pictures.. - but it was this tutorial that got me thinking.. (i also tried last year to find info on optimal pic size for the Evo 4G, and could'nt find anything and gave up looking)
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If I were you, I'd invest in a 32 GB SD card if you want optimal quality photos. As you probably already know, the more you compress a photo's file size, the more the quality of the picture degrades, especially with the JPEG file format. The JPEG file format, which is used on all the cameras I've played with so far, can compress an image down to a really low file size, but at the same time the picture quality degrades. The JPEG format also suffers from generation loss, meaning every time you decode and encode an image into the JPEG format, you lose quality. Personally, I prefer the PNG format over other formats since it uses lossless compression, but I don't think the EVO 3D's camera has an option to save in that format. The downside of the PNG format is that the file sizes are still larger than the JPEG format, but it's significantly smaller than the RAW format.
But then again, you're using a phone camera. If you were using a professional or high end amateur camera, I'm pretty sure things would be different. Basically what I want you to take from this is to try to avoid compressing/decompressing JPEG images often. It degrades the picture quality. I only wish the EVO 3D could save images in PNG format since it uses lossless compression.
So is anyone else seeing double image if they dont film their subject in a sweet spot? Seems kind of pointless doesnt it? If I am filming stuff, I would prefer to not tell my subject that they cannot move beyond a certain zone.
Or... is my 3d defective?
edufur said:
So is anyone else seeing double image if they dont film their subject in a sweet spot? Seems kind of pointless doesnt it? If I am filming stuff, I would prefer to not tell my subject that they cannot move beyond a certain zone.
Or... is my 3d defective?
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I only see issues if I am close to something, like a macro shot
Ive had the same problem. Taking 3D pictures of moving objects just doesn't work well.
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Ive had the same problem. Taking 3D pictures of moving objects just doesn't work well.
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Without a quick enough shutter speed, taking pictures of moving objects period doesn't work well.
my problem isnt just moving objects. it is anything that is NOT in a certain zone. If the object being filmed is too close or too distant, it doubles (instead of 3d).
With 3d photography, there ARE limitations on distance.
Remember, a camera doesn't work like your eyes which are able to do more than just focus.
A camera lens is FIXED in a specific position and when you change your focal points the fixed position may be either to wide or, when focusing at distance, too narrow.
Movie makers and professional photographers are aware of this and can work around it. Specialized 3d photography actually uses 2 cameras in sync with a rail that separates the cameras based on the focal point.
Here's a simplified example of the rail for home use:
http://www.adorama.com/alc/article/How-to-Build-a-Two-Camera-Rig-for-Wiggle-3D
For what the evo and point and shoot 3d cameras do, it's just fine as long as you know the limitations of distance (both macro and >40ft or so)
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For what the evo and point and shoot 3d cameras do, it's just fine as long as you know the limitations of distance (both macro and >40ft or so)
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I appreciate this info... but... my evo 3d is struggling with objects even > 8 feet.
is anyone else experiencing the same issue? should i take it back?
To get as close as possible to a perfect 3D experience for human eyes, a 3D camera needs its two lenses to be the same distance apart as our eyes are. Notice the 3VO's "eyes" are only 1.375" apart. My eyes are closer to 3" apart center to center. What it means is that the near and far extents of the view taken will either be hard to align for focus or impossible and thus ignored by one of our eyes or the other. Far elements won't have as much 3D impact anyway, except in contrast to near elements in the same scene. You'll notice broad distant landscape scenes aren't the choice shots as 3D samples. Pick scenes with foreground (not too close) and background (and even middle ground) elements to shoot, and your shots will turn out fine. Make sure your camera is level though. If you don't then you won't see the 3D effect until you re-create that tilted relationship between your eyes and the viewscreen.
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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Please for all of us. Just go get the LG.
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liljacques said:
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Everything he said. Also, with some 3d software, you can adjust the depth of field.
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes, the depth will be the same if you watch the same files on any of these devices. The screen can't change the media, only the media itself can change.
Do some reattach on how 3d stuff works and you will see what I mean.
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes absolutely the evo 3d, optimus 3d, and the 3ds will have the exact same 3d effect when viewing the same source file, such as avatar 3d or any other prerecorded media.
What people are referring to when they say the optimus has more depth or the evo has more popout is the pictures and video created by the phone. Since the evo's cameras are father apart the two phones will create a different 3d effect even when taking a picture in the exact same location with both phones. This difference is due to the 3d cameras and has absolutely nothing to do with the screen.
The 3d effect simply cannot have any difference in depth when viewing the same prerecorded media. Do a little more research into how 3d works and you will understand this better.
people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
You are referring to the differences in the cameras, not the screens. Optimus photos viewed on the evo will have the same depth as when they are viewed on the optimus. All these phones are doing is showing two 2d pictures on the same screen at the same time while blocking the opposite eye from seeing the other pic. The same 3d source will have the same 3d effect on both phones. The same source has the same two pics when viewed on either screen and therefore cannot have a different 3d effect.
Now if we are talking about different sources then of course the 3d effect can be different.
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Only true if one assumes that both handsets are using a parallax barrier of the same quality which works equally effective. This doesn't seem to be the case. (3d images on the O3D are supposed to be more crisp and the viewing angle is supposed to be wider as well)
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seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
The viewing angles may well be better on the optimus but when you're in the sweet spot on the evo there is absolutely no bleed over from the other image. This can be seen be winking each eye independently. Therefore the parallax barrier isn't effecting the amount of depth in the 3d when viewed properly.
The amount of depth is determined by the source not the screen. I suspect when people say the optimus has better 3d they're either not viewing the same source on both or they're referring to viewing angles which has nothing to do with the amount of depth in the 3d effect.
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people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
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How can a less crisp screen be more crisp? Hhmm
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Well thanks guys but at least with the 3ds it is possible to set the depth/power of the 3d effect. Maybe the optimus is set higher then the evo3d?
And will there be a fix so the evo3d takes better 3d photos?
It seems everyone agrees the optimus3d is better in that...
Most 3d games you can adjust it. When viewing a picture tap the picture select effects and adjust the 3d alignment to your hearts content. Make it appear far away or make it popout.
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3d games are very different than pictures and video. They are computer generated and therefore the 3d effect can be easily adjusted on the fly. I have two 3d games on my evo and both can be adjusted over quite a large range from off to a lot of depth.
Pictures and video are a different animal. On the evo you can adjust the overlay of the pictures, which is just sliding one pic to the left and the other to the right. Now this does change the amount of depth but on most pictures there is only one point where the image looks correct without the other image bleeding over. This feature is there to compensate for the evo's, cameras being unable to swivel like your eyes. The cameras can't go crosseyed like your eyes can when viewing something close to your face. Some images will get the other image bleeding over and this feature allows you to compensate til there is none.
The problem is everyone here seems to think some super quality screen on one beats the other. Lol.
Ignorant.
People don't even see 3d the same. Certain types of 3d may effect someone more or less than another.
The LG simply assist with focussing on the 3d content.
Thus the content appears smoother more in depth. When really as you adjust. The LG cleary does too.
That would help eliminate the card board effect somewhat.
I'm not a doctor. Technologist is more fitting.
Sometimes an analytical view can assist in providing a better understanding of a competitors technical advantage.
This technology will be used by all manufacturers soon.
Then Apple will pull a patent out their ass or some bull**** rebrand it and call it the new hotness your grandma wish she lived long enough to have.
Apple will get its way and we will all get the iPhone.
Of course by 5 years time Apple would of purchased Android.
Rebranded it.
Send it out in pieces.
Call it the new hotness you wish you would of lived long enough to have.
Sorry some dork shiet. But you get it. I think.
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After spending some time trying to figure out a way to make some nice 3d videos of music visualizations I think I got them to look pretty good.
My main attempt was to get the videos to be the in your face type 3D, you know the kind that seems like the object is floating in your face between the screen and your eyes so I tried a ton of things.
I tried Wondershare, Leaowi 3d convertor, Makeme3d, Xillisoft etc... With no decent 2d-3D convertors, I even went as far as installing the IZ3D Driver on my computer in attempt to get a true 3D output. I even went as far as placing my Evo 3d on a tripod and recording the pc screen music viz...
that ended up with nice 3d effects however quality was bad so was the music and it wasn’t really in your face type unless I moved the phone toward and away from the viz..
with still bad outputs I decided to use Fraps recorder to just record the viz in Avi uncompressed, then tried hand break, free make, etc. all kinds and then doing the 2d to 3d, none of the apps worked well, except for Xillisoft, the key was to raise the depth to 10 highest, then to flip Left and Right, it made a nice in your face result.
Anyway, thought I would share them. I am sure someone out there would dig it.
basically it’s just a song playing and the music viz doing its thing and pretty much nice 3d, only issue I have not figured out is trying to keep the size as small as possible yet higher bite rate and clearer, which most will notice the overall; quality isn’t that great I just wish I could get the right combo to make the quality perfect with the 3d conversion,
here is the links to a few videos I made , if some feedback comes that they are liked, I will be glad to show steps to make it or even make more, enjoy
Oh in case anyone curious, I used milk drop Winamp, RV viz, and old ass Vuzix viz I found online (which was actually the nicest looking of all.). That’s the "one called Dangerous:
Also It would be awesome if anyone has similar videos they can share I have not successfully found any online yet
here is just a few screenshots of the video:
Note: I noticed that they each have a different eye distance spot so if it looks or strains your eyes try moving it closer or further
And here is the first 5 videos I uploaded.
Hope you like Depeche Mode
Download links
Music Viz video in 3D with the song " Light " By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4qukuj0cyfilfcp
Music Viz video in 3D with the song " Enjoy the Silence " Dubstep mix By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u0akzvgip89eov9
Music Viz video in 3D with the song "Dangerous" By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?of1pd29abecj47t
Music viz video in 3D with the song "Judas" by Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?v3324o9ey88j6ms
Music viz video in 3D with the song "Waiting for the Night" by Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?71m56u9s68euwnb
Thanx for starting a 3d videos thread with both instructions and sample videos.
YouTube would be useful for a quick preview at least, even if the mp4 offer the highest quality.
suddene said:
I even went as far as placing my Evo 3d on a tripod and recording the pc screen music viz...
that ended up with nice 3d effects however quality was bad so was the music and it wasn’t really in your face type unless I moved the phone toward and away from the viz..
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Not sure if trolling, or just stupid.....
e_town said:
Not sure if trolling, or just stupid.....
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With all due respect , Not sure if your wife's ass aint hitting right today or you are just one of those lonely sad mad at the world type people with nothing but negative comments due to your personal dark secrets that you have been completely hiding due to the shock you received at an early age..
But anyway, ya actually to clear it up, filming a music viz with a 3d camera comes out pretty good and in 3d, especially with a stable filming like a tripod
so I don't understand maybe I am just too "stupid" to even understand why your negative comment made any sense as to why I was stupid for doing that.. It's funny how this forum at once was full of friendly and interesting members and lately it's become flooded with one liner morons that like to talk smack without even opening their minds or explaining their reason for being so ignorant..
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the 3d Youtube idea was great I had not realized that their uploads allow a 2d-3d experimental conversion which I am trying out now, thanks for the heads up on that.
Allright, so i downloaded one to check it out, and it just shows me the side by side when I play in my EVO3D. Do I need to convert it or something?
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Allright, so i downloaded one to check it out, and it just shows me the side by side when I play in my EVO3D. Do I need to convert it or something?
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Press menu play3d
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Press menu play3d
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doh. Thanks.
And I don't really see any 3D depth. Were you recording from a 3D monitor?
If you want 3D movies on your Evo3D skip all this nonsense, and check search TPB or Google for Half-SBS movies, or go to http://3dhalf-sbs.blogspot.com/
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If you want 3D movies on your Evo3D skip all this nonsense, and check search TPB or Google for Half-SBS movies, or go to http://3dhalf-sbs.blogspot.com/
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well I know of all those sites .including sikflicks and many others but like I said on first post , all these google half sbs.and.such searches never really lead me to any viz type videos mostly are movies or short films .. So I wouldnt really call it.nonsense ..as a matter of.fact I have.shown these videos to about 3- 4 friends.whom all have an EVO 3d.and.they were all impressed and stated they have.seen.nothing like it in 3d especially the depth . What needs to be done.which would.be really cool is for someone.to create an app like that Winamp viz called MilkDROP. Or even add some 3d support to "project M" THAT WOULD Be awesome
Oh I just also noticed if you are viewing the videos and notice no 3d then you are probably watching the video upside down and and have the auto rotation locked ..just watched it in the wrong way and noticed the depth was reversed when I had auto rotate off ..
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Downloaded and tried the first vid, here is my constructive criticism:
Bitrate is way too low or encoder is way too bad, many scenes with big blocks/squares typical of too low bitrate for high motion videos. VBR may help too (varible bitrate), but a huge increase in bitrate is a must, or lower resolution.
Video has flipped left/right, as described in the text above, I had to rotate the Evo3D slightly to get the correct 3D view.
Problem is that flipping left/right for 3D video with objects deep into the screen, does not give you out of screen effects. The source has to be correct and show out of screen 3d to begin with. The following video shows perfect out of screen 3D, the logo is always within the screen border (reb/blue only, but you will get the point): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4woa-Hodg4
In this case, you need to work with the 3d driver settings and adjust the parameters and it will only work for a few scenes, for example the metaballs that never leave the screen.
Tunnel sequence does not need to be out of screen to be kickass in 3D.
A tip is to hook up your PC or Evo 3D to your 3DTV or 3D projector.
You or your friends will get motion sickness within 1 minute, brilliant
Hi guys!
Please Have a look attached file and advice me.
Is my evo 3d faulty? or common?
Need your help and opinion.
Thanks!
bboori said:
Hi guys!
Please Have a look attached file and advice me.
Is my evo 3d faulty? or common?
Need your help and opinion.
Thanks!
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Never heard of this before .. according to your screenshot and your "good" and "bad" pictures, there appears to be an issue. where did you obtain the "good" picture from? do you have two evo 3d devices you're comparing side by side?
Suppose if you wanted to add measurements on the physical gap between the two cameras along with the screenshots, then others could also measure the gap between their cameras and post their results.
Measuring the gap seems to be a pretty quantitative method of analyzing the issue.
Keep us updated!
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Never heard of this before .. according to your screenshot and your "good" and "bad" pictures, there appears to be an issue. where did you obtain the "good" picture from? do you have two evo 3d devices you're comparing side by side?
Suppose if you wanted to add measurements on the physical gap between the two cameras along with the screenshots, then others could also measure the gap between their cameras and post their results.
Measuring the gap seems to be a pretty quantitative method of analyzing the issue.
Keep us updated!
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3d photos from other web site for your understand.
coz I'm not good at speaking english. ^^; so I made it
But I can say My 3d photos are always like wrong 3d style. it makes headach. T.T
And please googleing about 3d photography than you will know which is good 3d photo. ^^
Thanks.
That picture of your camera is not square. You need to center the camera over the red square
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did you drop the phone at all. that looks like a probelm.
No I didn't..
Ignore a camera picture.
How is your photo look like?
you guys got 3d photo like a good 3d sample?
tell me and post your photo please.
I'd like to compare it.
Thanks.
Comparison
Ok, I think the position of both cameras are unimportant because. I think most of the corrections and overlaping of the images taken from the cameras and creating the 3d effect are software made (thats my opinion and my guess as an Electronic Engenieer). But I can't be sure because i wasn't in the design of the phone :S, jajaja... and I haven't even study about this process...
But I'll tell you what would I do for determining the problem.
The problem could be the display too... So i'd try taking a 3d pic and then look at it in other 3d device (maybe another evo 3d).
If the image is still the same, I'd try update firmware or Rom... or something in the phone software...
Think about the cameras, they are like eyes... and think about people, some have a larger space between the eyes than others and no one is perfect like your phone. It's the brain that fixes itself to watch the world in the better way.
If you have headache watching 3d pics, also you could be the problem jejeje... because you are not used to the watch it (like my father). Ask someone else if they have the same problem when watching 3d pics in your phone.
No no, that's not what I'm trying to say. ummm..
For example..If you want to take a 3d photo by 2 normal cameras. you must take a photo same level(horizontaly) of balance. because humen eyes like it.
if not same level of camera makes wrong 3D style of my smaple photo. Yes!! you can see this wrong 3d with 3d effect but it is not proepr method of take 3d photo. also gogleling LG3d camera photo sample. it is alligned verticaly.
I'm not good at speaking Eng. But I hope you guys understand what i'm talking to.
Thanks.
Maybe I don't understand what it takes to take a 3d pic.
Just think it's more like a software issue.
Also, the distance of the camera you are complaining about would result in a much more ugly photo because a little radious is higher at the distance.
When you are going to take a photo before you push the trigger, do you still see the it in a bad shape?
I also speak in Spanish, I'm from Mexico.
Feel free if it's easier in spanish but not in the forum, jejeje...
Please have a look this article.
Rotational and Vertical Disparities in Source Footage
Disparities corrected so all straight lines are parallel
Unwelcome Disparities (Geometric, lens and temporal)
Disparity is a “dirty word” for stereographers. In fact the only “good” type of disparity in S3D is horizontal disparity between the left and right eye images. As mentioned before, this is known as parallax.
Any other type of disparity in your image (vertical, rotational, zoom, keystone or temporal) will cause the viewers eyes to strain to accommodate. This can break the 3D effect and cause muscular pain in the viewer’s eyes or even nausea. Every stereographer will strive to avoid these disparities on set by carefully calibrating the steroescopic rig and it will be tweaked ever further in post production through the use of 3D mastering software.
From : http://www.dashwood3d.com/blog/beginners-guide-to-shooting-stereoscopic-3d/
So I think our camera has got Vertical Disparities problem. or my camera only?
If it is software problem. how can I adjust it? and finally don't you have this Vertical Disparities problem?
PS. You will not be able to 'see' this problem on your mobile screen, not until you put it on YouTube and can see what's going on when viewing anaglyph with no glasses on your pc. than You will notice it.
Thanks.
can you send me a pic taken from your phone?
I don't see any problems with mine.
fcomeba said:
can you send me a pic taken from your phone?
I don't see any problems with mine.
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Here is mine http://db.tt/N1d0DdEA