Upgrade Switcharoo Part 2 - HTC EVO 3D

So, My son's phone line qualifies for an premier upgrade(dont know why, but it does), and I want to use it for myself.
Can I just get the 3d under his phone number, activate it, then go home and call Sprint, and have them swap his phone number to my phone, and my phone number to the 3D?
I've done a phone number swap with family members in the past, but, I had read some stuff about Sprint charging you 200 dollars if you try this with the EVO 3D..
Anyone else do this successfully so far?
thank you

You can even do it yourself online after you buy the phone on his line. But a phone call night be faster. Online you'd have to re activate his old phone first then put the 3D on your line then activate your old phone on his. See you always have to have a phone active on the line so don't get rid of your third phone yet.
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so the "penalty" I read about on Wirefly is just BS?

donatom3 said:
You can even do it yourself online after you buy the phone on his line. But a phone call night be faster. Online you'd have to re activate his old phone first then put the 3D on your line then activate your old phone on his. See you always have to have a phone active on the line so don't get rid of your third phone yet.
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Hell, he could even do it in-store. I doubt they care.

I've done that before with no problem, did it over the phone.

wase4711 said:
So, My son's phone line qualifies for an premier upgrade(dont know why, but it does), and I want to use it for myself.
Can I just get the 3d under his phone number, activate it, then go home and call Sprint, and have them swap his phone number to my phone, and my phone number to the 3D?
I've done a phone number swap with family members in the past, but, I had read some stuff about Sprint charging you 200 dollars if you try this with the EVO 3D..
Anyone else do this successfully so far?
thank you
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Yes you can, its easy to do.

Yes this can be done I just did this yesterday.

Thanks Everybody...I thought this was a no brainer, but, you never know until someone tries it..
I appreciate the info...now, the REAL QUESTION becomes is it worth giving up the EVO 4G with Root, for this guy, just stock..

wase4711 said:
Thanks Everybody...I thought this was a no brainer, but, you never know until someone tries it..
I appreciate the info...now, the REAL QUESTION becomes is it worth giving up the EVO 4G with Root, for this guy, just stock..
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As a happy new EVO3D owner with a backup rooted EVO4G right beside it I can honestly say "no way"... not unless this thing gets unlocked...my CM7 EVO4G is faaaaast, battery sipping, customized to the hilt.....my EVO3D? It's the same as everybody elses Evo3D...with bloatware, same font, same kernel, same lock screen, no wifi tether, no nandroid--no NEED for nandroid.
Do not give up a EVO4G for it. If you can get one and keep the EVO4G 'just in case', I would do that...heck, I did.
...and if you don't have that option, well, once we manage to get the bootloader non-crypto-signed then work on getting s=off can start....that's when it'll be fine to get rid of the EVO4G for sure....which I hope happens soon, cuz they said I can go back to RS and get my $158 trade-in-value for the next 30 days...

so, the added processing power, and more storage memory doesn't blow away the eVO 4g?
I agree, that an unlocked phone is tons more fun than an locked one; I just wonder if the 3D is so powerful compared to the regular EVO, that it makes it alot more fun to play with..

wase4711 said:
So, My son's phone line qualifies for an premier upgrade(dont know why, but it does), and I want to use it for myself.
Can I just get the 3d under his phone number, activate it, then go home and call Sprint, and have them swap his phone number to my phone, and my phone number to the 3D?
I've done a phone number swap with family members in the past, but, I had read some stuff about Sprint charging you 200 dollars if you try this with the EVO 3D..
Anyone else do this successfully so far?
thank you
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Yes you can, its easy to do.

wase4711 said:
so, the added processing power, and more storage memory doesn't blow away the eVO 4g?
I agree, that an unlocked phone is tons more fun than an locked one; I just wonder if the 3D is so powerful compared to the regular EVO, that it makes it alot more fun to play with..
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Well I tend to disagree...I think the phone is very nice and fast..I'm getting better battery life and sense 3.0 never ran like this on my 4G..I think we will get root..but I can live without it for now..the screen and camera are both nice improvemente imo..some ppl seem disappointed but a lot of ppl are very hard to please..also every game I've played is twice as smooth

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Problem solved question answered! Thanks. ****MODS PLEASE CLOSE****

I have been having some issues with my fascinate ever since I had to swap out ESN'S to get my signal back. It seems like I've been missing alot of calls. I have been dealing with the issues without much complaint.
Today my wife called me 3X and my phone didnt even ring 1X. I decided it was time to call verizon.
The rep I spoke to gave me 2 choices for a replacement. The choices are a DROID X2 and DROID INCREDIBLE 2 or another fascinate.
My question is which phone should I take Droid X2, Droid Incredible 2 or another fascinate. Thanks all!
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I think either would be good choices to be honest. I am curious though, how did you convince the rep to give you one of the newer phones? I would like to take advantage of this.
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I think either would be good choices to be honest. I am curious though, how did you convince the rep to give you one of the newer phones? I would like to take advantage of this.
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I didnt, I simply told her what was going on with my phone and those were my choices for replacement. I told her I wanted another samsung phone in hopes that she would spit back the charge but she spit back a refurbished fascinate. She said the choices were not hers. The computer gives her choices based on the type of phone you currently have.
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I was given the option of Droid X2, Incredible 2, or Charge.
Although I would like charge due to 4G, it doesnt seem like there are a lot of devs there. (At least compared to Fascinate)
I would only think of taking the Charge, the Fascinate beats out the Dinc2 and X2 IMO... went into a vz store today and the guy there told me that they know about the Fascinate issues and there is a big "update" coming at the end of the month, whether this is gingerbread or a froyo patch he didn't know... as for a new phone he said they are absolutely not supposed to offer anything but another Fascinate or MAYBE a Dinc2
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GrainOsand said:
I have been having some issues with my fascinate ever since I had to swap out ESN'S to get my signal back. It seems like I've been missing alot of calls. I have been dealing with the issues without much complaint.
Today my wife called me 3X and my phone didnt even ring 1X. I decided it was time to call verizon.
The rep I spoke to gave me 2 choices for a replacement. The choices are a DROID X2 and DROID INCREDIBLE 2 or another fascinate.
My question is which phone should I take Droid X2, Droid Incredible 2 or another fascinate. Thanks all!
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i 100% wouldnt take a droidx2...but i hate motorola with a passion and its locked down
im not really up on the dinc2, i think its a device that should have launched last thanksgiving...but thats w/e
either the dinc2 or fascinate replacement i guess would be ok
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i 100% wouldnt take a droidx2...but i hate motorola with a passion and its locked down
im not really up on the dinc2, i think its a device that should have launched last thanksgiving...but thats w/e
either the dinc2 or fascinate replacement i guess would be ok
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Would you recommend a Charge instead of a Fascinate?
Also to people having trouble with getting verizon store employee to change your phone, here is something from their forum.
On 7-8-11, Verizon Wireless implemented a POLICY on the Fascinate. Whenever a new policy comes along, all 80,000+ employees are not going to be aware of it immediately. Not that it's excusable, but it happens from time to time.
If you go to a Verizon Wireless CORPORATE store, and they are unfamiliar with the process, I will post info to guide them on the new policy. I cannot post the policy because I could get canned, but I can post how to get to the policy.
Where is this policy? There are 2 ways to get there:
1) Open up InfoManager. In the search box, type in: "Samsung Fascinate Not Receiving Calls." This will bring up several search results. It's the first result that shows up.
2) There is an OST article number for this information. The OST that can also be typed in the Infomanager search box is 70946. This will bring up several search results as well. It's the first option.
Things to note: This missed call issue is intermittent.
**There is no fix for it. It can't be master reset, updated with new software (at this time), battery pulled, *228 update, or network troubleshot. It does NOT need to be duplicated in-store for a replacement as it is intermittent. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes it doesn't. When it's a known intermittent issue, we should NOT need to duplicate it in the store. **
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Kaze105 said:
Would you recommend a Charge instead of a Fascinate?
Also to people having trouble with getting verizon store employee to change your phone, here is something from their forum.
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as for the charge as a replacement...if you live in a 4g area or are soon to get 4g, then yes
if not, then from a development stand point, no i wouldnt
I just got my device replaced with a Dinc 2. I feel that 4" is the perfect screen size. I am just really hoping I don't get one that has Gingerbread on it, because the S-Off exploit has been patched with the update.
The nice thing is that this doesn't renew your contract. So when it is up, you are still able to upgrade. I am actually able to upgrade right now (main line on a family share plan) but am holding off until some more phones (and hopefully the new Nexus, but I'm not holding my breath) come out
beenz said:
I just got my device replaced with a Dinc 2. I feel that 4" is the perfect screen size. I am just really hoping I don't get one that has Gingerbread on it, because the S-Off exploit has been patched with the update.
The nice thing is that this doesn't renew your contract. So when it is up, you are still able to upgrade. I am actually able to upgrade right now (main line on a family share plan) but am holding off until some more phones (and hopefully the new Nexus, but I'm not holding my breath) come out
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i actually have to try and take my fascinate in this weekend as the speaker is sporadically not working...hopefully i can just replace it with another as im not in the mood to deal with a different phone (amongst the choices for replacements)
nitsuj17 said:
i actually have to try and take my fascinate in this weekend as the speaker is sporadically not working...hopefully i can just replace it with another as im not in the mood to deal with a different phone (amongst the choices for replacements)
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They still sell them, so I wouldn't think you will have a problem getting another Fascinate. It's good to hear that you will be keeping it for awhile longer (or at least until/if the Galaxy S II comes to VZW), as you and only a handful of other people are huge assets to the Fascinate community
Same dilemma for me. My account has notes allowing me to get Charge, DX2 or DI2 without any arguing (thanks to Mike from vzw forums) but yesterday I played a little bit with Charge and I didn't like it. It's too bulky and physical buttons instead of touch keys is no go for me. 4G speeds are tempting though. I think I will wait some more for fix.
Does anyone have the number I could call to get this replacement? My fascinate has been rebooting constantly, locking up, and not ringing during calls.
nitsuj17 said:
i actually have to try and take my fascinate in this weekend as the speaker is sporadically not working...hopefully i can just replace it with another as im not in the mood to deal with a different phone (amongst the choices for replacements)
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We do need a Dinc2 themer! Im telling ya, its not a bad phone. Not better than a sf, but no worse either. Come to the Dinc2 nitsuj!
Sent from my Dinc2.
nitsuj17 said:
i actually have to try and take my fascinate in this weekend as the speaker is sporadically not working...hopefully i can just replace it with another as im not in the mood to deal with a different phone (amongst the choices for replacements)
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Hey Justin, just to give you a little update. I just left the VZW. No more fascinates for exchange, so I was told either a dinc2 or a X2 after a little bit of belly aching I am getting a refurbished Charge. I didnt even have to change my data plan im still at $30 unlimited. Should be here next week. Thanks for your advice....
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GrainOsand said:
Hey Justin, just to give you a little update. I just left the VZW. No more fascinates for exchange, so I was told either a dinc2 or a X2 after a little bit of belly aching I am getting a refurbished Charge. I didnt even have to change my data plan im still at $30 unlimited. Should be here next week. Thanks for your advice....
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seems to be its hit or miss on whether they have fascinates or not for replacement
my concern is i know im going to get the sgs2 (or equavilent) when it launches (hopefully within 2 months) so i dont feel the need or desire to get something radically different....as i cant own a device and not work on it
and the charge doesnt appeal to me for a few reasons as i dont have 4g and i really doubt i lack the ability to port all of the com rom stuff to it on my own w/o way too much effort (just to ultimately fail)...and dont want to use anyone elses roms (unless aosp was more imminent)
the dx2 isnt happening either (locked phone, no development)
the dinc2 would be appealing only for the use of aosp in the meantime and id be able to resell it and cover the cost of my next on contract phone easily
honestly the only phone id really take as a replacement besides another i500 would be the thunderbolt...despite my misgivings about the phone and its issues i could at least use bamf roms or aosp and still (probably) cover next phone with resale
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GrainOsand said:
Hey Justin, just to give you a little update. I just left the VZW. No more fascinates for exchange, so I was told either a dinc2 or a X2 after a little bit of belly aching I am getting a refurbished Charge. I didnt even have to change my data plan im still at $30 unlimited. Should be here next week. Thanks for your advice....
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So did you bring your Fascinate back to stock before you went in the store? i usually try to not go in to the store b/c most of them people are morons.
If it helps,
My wife has the Dinc2 and LOVES it. She is not in to modding at all, so the fact that limited dev support is not a big deal. She went from a D2G to the Dinc2 so she's never really had a dev supported phone.
A friend of mine has a Dx2 and says the dual core processor doesnt quite make up for having stock running.. While quadrant doesnt mean jack for the most part, he gets around 1600 and my fascinate breaks 2k on CM7.
The charge is a phone i wouldn't mind having.. i would consider trading my fascinate for a charge, but the phone im really waiting for (and hoping actually comes to the US) is Galaxy S II.
nitsuj17 said:
seems to be its hit or miss on whether they have fascinates or not for replacement
my concern is i know im going to get the sgs2 (or equavilent) when it launches (hopefully within 2 months) so i dont feel the need or desire to get something radically different....as i cant own a device and not work on it
and the charge doesnt appeal to me for a few reasons as i dont have 4g and i really doubt i lack the ability to port all of the com rom stuff to it on my own w/o way too much effort (just to ultimately fail)...and dont want to use anyone elses roms (unless aosp was more imminent)
the dx2 isnt happening either (locked phone, no development)
the dinc2 would be appealing only for the use of aosp in the meantime and id be able to resell it and cover the cost of my next on contract phone easily
honestly the only phone id really take as a replacement besides another i500 would be the thunderbolt...despite my misgivings about the phone and its issues i could at least use bamf roms or aosp and still (probably) cover next phone with resale
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Yeah, at first they told me I could get anothet fassy, then when I went to store they said it was no longer available for warranty replacement. Not sure what happened in the 4 hours between. I chose the charge for a few reasons but in the end It really doesnt matter my contact is up in 5months so at the very least I got a new toy to play with til then. Im sure ill be able to sell it and recoup more than my fascinate would fetch when the time comes especially to someone who doesnt want to lose their unlimited data plan... Thanks again
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GrainOsand said:
Hey Justin, just to give you a little update. I just left the VZW. No more fascinates for exchange, so I was told either a dinc2 or a X2 after a little bit of belly aching I am getting a refurbished Charge.
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I went on Tuesday to our corporate store with mine (flashed unrooted stock Froyo Odin first) and they overnighted me a replacement.
I wonder if this one has problems if they will offer a different model. I really like my fassy...

[Q] How do I unroot my Photon?

I need instructions on how to use adb to unroot my Photon. I rooted it without the dock per this forum's instructions. And yes, I'm still a noob so I don't know what sbf is. But I can follow instructions very well, at least to a certain point.
I need help because I am returning my Photon tomorrow because I can't stand using the camera and the screen. It bothers me too much. Worse yet, I use my phone as a mp3 player and it seems to be very slow at that. With the screen off and using headset controls, it doesn't respond as fast if at all like my Optimus V or Motorola Triumph does. I'm pretty disappointed with the Tegra 2, seems almost as if it was overrated to begin with. I probably had set my expectations too high from the beginning.
I'm not much of a gamer, so graphics that the Tegra 2 is suppose to be able to put out doesn't bother me too much. I just prefer the snapdragons because they seem to work better for my needs.
And the screen. It looks great when I'm watching an mkv movie, but that's it. It doesn't do other things well enough for me. My pictures all look too grainy and pixelated. At times, when looking at skin tones, all i see are the square blotches and no smooth pictures, even hd pictures don't look right.
The camera is too slow to respond and to be honest, my Motorola Triumph takes better pictures and seems to work faster at it than the Photon.
overthatscreen said:
I need instructions on how to use adb to unroot my Photon. I rooted it without the dock per this forum's instructions. And yes, I'm still a noob so I don't know what sbf is. But I can follow instructions very well, at least to a certain point.
I need help because I am returning my Photon tomorrow because I can't stand using the camera and the screen. It bothers me too much. Worse yet, I use my phone as a mp3 player and it seems to be very slow at that. With the screen off and using headset controls, it doesn't respond as fast if at all like my Optimus V or Motorola Triumph does. I'm pretty disappointed with the Tegra 2, seems almost as if it was overrated to begin with. I probably had set my expectations too high from the beginning.
I'm not much of a gamer, so graphics that the Tegra 2 is suppose to be able to put out doesn't bother me too much. I just prefer the snapdragons because they seem to work better for my needs.
And the screen. It looks great when I'm watching an mkv movie, but that's it. It doesn't do other things well enough for me. My pictures all look too grainy and pixelated. At times, when looking at skin tones, all i see are the square blotches and no smooth pictures, even hd pictures don't look right.
The camera is too slow to respond and to be honest, my Motorola Triumph takes better pictures and seems to work faster at it than the Photon.
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i doubt they will know its rooted and they probably wont care if it is....just dont say anything, but if you want to appear un rooted just delet all root user apps i.e. file explorer, wifi tether,root checker and anything that would suggest that its rooted, but it isnt really that big of a deal.
its shady....you should have root access to all your devices. Computers allow root access why not phones?
I just got rid of my 3d. Dont waste your time if you think this phone has problems the 3d is a nightmare... trust me i had mine for 3 weeks. A couple problems i had was camera sticks to 3d in 2d mode after a couple hours of use screen turns black and you have to pull battery at least twice a day battery goes from hero to zero in 2 hours with moderate use i thought the camera app was kinda weak the whole phone lags when you open app draw, browsing the market, while your on the web browser, the list just goes on and on... trust me you'll thank me later
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I actually like the 3D more than the Photon. The wife has one and everything seems to work very well on it. I'm not into taking 3D pics, I just prefer the new Evo to the old one.
So anyways.. All I have to do is remove all the root apps and that's it? No going back in and removing the torpedo stuff?
I don't think it matters if it is rooted or not, but you can use this thread to go back to a stock un-rooted Moto rom.
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I actually like the 3D more than the Photon. The wife has one and everything seems to work very well on it. I'm not into taking 3D pics, I just prefer the new Evo to the old one.
So anyways.. All I have to do is remove all the root apps and that's it? No going back in and removing the torpedo stuff?
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I think twice before getting rid of a photon for a 3d. I had my 3d for 2 months and was in the sprint store atleast once a week wither verified problems. Enough so that even tho I was over my 30 days they still gave me a photon.
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ooxcfhxoo said:
i doubt they will know its rooted and they probably wont care if it is....just dont say anything, but if you want to appear un rooted just delet all root user apps i.e. file explorer, wifi tether,root checker and anything that would suggest that its rooted, but it isnt really that big of a deal.
its shady....you should have root access to all your devices. Computers allow root access why not phones?
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I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
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Even when there is a internal notice saying that service can be performed on rooted phones, you saying that I could still be liable for the restocking fee?
Sprint service and repair facts
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wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
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I turned in my rooted EVO 3d last week. I was 3 weeks past my 30 days, the manager and the head tech were super cool about it. I even offered to unroot it but they said it didn't matter. The tech was even questioning me about how I liked the rom.
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I think 1/2 the members of this forum has returned/exchanged a rooted phone...I know for sure I have. Back when I got into the whole rooting thing, I used to be paranoid whenever I took my phone in; now THATS the least of my concerns.
People need to stop slinging all that nonsense of voided warranties & restocking fees. If Sprint's good with it....so am I.
I've also returned a rooted phone and Sprint had no issues with it at all.
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Even when there is a internal notice saying that service can be performed on rooted phones, you saying that I could still be liable for the restocking fee?
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There is a restocking fee to return a phone period, it doesn't matter if it's rooted or not. Exchanging for the same phone because it's allegedly defective is free, changing models comes with a restocking charge. And going from the photon to the evo is a huge step backwards.... Everyone except 1 person I know with the 3d switched or is planning on switching to the photon.
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wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
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I am sure there are some employees that know how to check to see if a phone is rooted or not, but it is by no means the standard. As countless people have said in various threads, I have returned and had work performed on rooted phones.
I have come across so many sales associates that don't even know phone details/specs. I doubt they know how to check to see if a phone is rooted or not.
so is there a way to unroot or not? I need to return my phone for repairs. I already updated to the final build, so should I just do that again to unroot it even though it hasn't been released yet?
unroot for return or exchange
SIMPLE SINCE U HAVE to manually install superuser from market to gain root anyways,unlike normal method where it installs right from a rooting program,just go to application manage delete superuser,delete all trace of apps that use root or better yet do a factory reset.. superuser should uninstall, really seeing superuser on screen is the most common sign of rooted phone.
You could try the terminal emulator root method but instead of typing the last prompt as install.so-sh type uninstall
Just an idea! Also I know flashing sbf file with rsdlite looses root with no signs of ever being flashed
Good Luck
Not exactly true...
codee said:
There is a restocking fee to return a phone period, it doesn't matter if it's rooted or not. Exchanging for the same phone because it's allegedly defective is free, changing models comes with a restocking charge. And going from the photon to the evo is a huge step backwards.... Everyone except 1 person I know with the 3d switched or is planning on switching to the photon.
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I'm returning the Photon within my first 30 days of being a new sprint customer, and exchanging for a Samsung Galaxy II (EPIC 2 4G) with no restocking fee . The photon truly is a piece of $h1t that was not ready for release, not to mention the Idiots who designed it, approved the design, tested it after build to realize that when it is in kickstand mode, you can't charge the P.O.S. lol and out of the box, it won't play most videos that you put on it, even MP4's . Plus the amount of battery pulls is ridiculous. Trying to assign certain ringtone MP3's causes it to ring but lock up, and these are the same small 128k MP3s that all my old phones used, including my G1, MyTouch 3G, and Samsung Galaxy (ALL TMO phones). All of them can play all my videos, but the photon stutters and loses sync, etc. this is a "Not Ready for Prime Time" release just to get something out there. Shame too because I really liked the feel.. And the speakerphone is the loudest I've heard in ages... At least on a smartphone...
Right there with you bud.. I was sold on the photon by overhearing one on speakerphone, but didn't get a close look at it. I bought it online. What a dismal piece of hardware. Out of the box, it could not and would not play any of the MP4's, mkv's or FLV's that my TMO myTouch and Vibrant played. When playing a video with the kickstand open, you can't charge it. As a nightstand clock? HA The A-Hole who designed that should be fired. Sure, we all want a smartphone that can't be charged overnight while using as an alarm clock (with the kickstand) or while watching videos... Haa.. Add to that the frequent lockups when trying to play any of my MP3s (which all ringtones on my other phones) , which requires pulling the battery to get it to shut up... The lousy slow and sluggish interface and the gallery is a nightmare compared to Samsung's UI... No thanks MoPho... Back you go. Your only feature that is any good is the speakerphone, and I just don't use it often enough to put up with such a terribly pixelated screen. This is NOTHING like the SAMOLED.... qHD? I think not. Save the marketing terms... Build a good phone we can buy and enjoy.
The kickstand works both ways. Flip the phone over 180 degrees. It will stand that way too. Then you can charge at the same time.
It actually stands upright too, just not as stable.
So back to topic please...
I'm trying to sale my Photon to get the SGS 2 and I need to un root it.
Can someone please provide a step by step on how to un root this phone thanks in advance
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[Q] Coming from the HTC family, what can you tell me?

For the last couple of years I've held in my hand an HTC device. I became very familiar with their S-OFF procedures and I am just curious what things are like for Motorola users. I know I should probably search, but I'd like some opinions rather than guides. How is Moto's bootloader unlocking different than HTC? Does Moto have an unlock tool like HTC's halfa** tool? Anyone else here move from HTC, is it worth it?
I'm picking one up later today on craigslist so I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into. Currently, I've got an EVO 3D.
I moved to the photon from an EVO 3D as well. I always used HTC phones going as far back as the HTC Mogul. I actually prefer Blur over Sense. There is a ton of little things about this phone that make it better, in my eyes mind you, than the 3D.
I've honestly never even thought about going back to an HTC. That is until now. With the evo lte coming out its provoking the need for a new toy.
I got this phone in October and I still don't wanna run it over with a tank.
Anything specific you wanna know?
No root tool, however, the root method is simple and pain free if you are capable and can follow directions.
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Thanks for the info! I've wanted the Photon 4G since I renewed last fall but I chose the EVO 3D (coming from the EVO 4G). I was pretty disappointed with the 3D in general and I've regret the decision of getting it in the first place. But from your personal use, how's battery life? Is the Tegra 2 better than the S3/Adreno 220 in the 3D? I enjoy playing games and so far (Modern Combat 3, BackStabHD) have performed pretty well on the 3D. Any experience with these on the P4G?
Go back to the HTC family.
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Battery life on the P4G is a lot better for me at least than the 3D ever was. Another note, reception. Leaps and bounds over Sammy and just a hair better than HTC. Wifi, data, calls and texts. To me 3g is unless on this phone. I sit on a super fast Wifi connection at home and 4g blankets the places I go.
As far as games go, my gaming extent is angry birds and techno kitten adventure.
vitaminjay1982 said:
Battery life on the P4G is a lot better for me at least than the 3D ever was. Another note, reception. Leaps and bounds over Sammy and just a hair better than HTC. Wifi, data, calls and texts. To me 3g is unless on this phone. I sit on a super fast Wifi connection at home and 4g blankets the places I go.
As far as games go, my gaming extent is angry birds and techno kitten adventure.
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Thanks for the info. You say 3G is useless because of the WiFi/4G or because there is a problem with 3G?
treetolber said:
Go back to the HTC family.
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Lol from experience with the P4G or because you have a 3VO?
3g is fine. I personally can't tolerate how slow it is.
You've got a point. I just assumed it was my area. Everything shows as 3G on my EVO but I swear it's 1x/EvDO. I think it's just to make people happy
Yeah. I work from home so unless I leave the house I'm on a 100meg connection. If my phone ever says 3g, I don't even bother with using data.
Any other specific stuff?
Thats about it. Thanks very much! Once I get the phone I'll post any questions if I have any but it sounds like I'll enjoy it!
Ok I picked up the Photon... so far so good (overall). I have two issues though that maybe you can help me with.
1) Headset might be busted. Plugin in headset the phone goes nuts making calls, bringing up voice commands - tried with two known working headsets. Audio sounds like hissy/tinny. If I push the plug to the side it sounds ok so I'm think it's loose? I'll get a Torx set from RadioShack tomorrow and check more.
2) The phone is slow. On the home screen, swiping between each screen has such a tremendous lag. The music player takes almost a minute to load the songs from my SD card (roughly 3000 songs). I just did another factory reset so we'll see how it goes.
Yeah. That sounds like it's broken.
Hard reset should fix the slow problem. I use ADW EX to replace the shock ui but that's just cause I like it better and I got the circle folders.
Anything else?
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I tried a gameloft game tonight, Modern Combat 3 and I get to the 3rd splash screen and it reloads the app. I'm downloading the data files for BackStab HD now to see if that one will work.
HDMI out is pretty unimpressive. When you move from one app to another you can see a transparent image of the previous screen behind the active one. Not a big deal, HDMI out isn't a huge deal but for videos/pics I think it'd be fine.
Hopefully tomorrow with be a better day with this puppy. If I keep having problems I'll just claim it through Asurion.
EDIT: HDMI is fine. Problem was with a crappy HDTV.
Your headphone problem alone should get you a free replacement at sprint if you're under the TEP plan... Defective product.
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vitaminjay1982 said:
Your headphone problem alone should get you a free replacement at sprint if you're under the TEP plan... Defective product.
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Even though I didn't buy it from Sprint? I have the TEP plan but they direct me to Asurion regarding any type of TEP claim.
Yeah. Go into the sprint store and tell them your headphone port doesn't work. I got my photon from craigslist. Had a problem with getting texts and it got replaced.
As long as you don't have water damage you sound be fine. I wouldn't take it apart before you bring it in. Let them do it.
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vitaminjay1982 said:
Yeah. Go into the sprint store and tell them your headphone port doesn't work. I got my photon from craigslist. Had a problem with getting texts and it got replaced.
As long as you don't have water damage you sound be fine. I wouldn't take it apart before you bring it in. Let them do it.
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Battery's wet indicator has been tripped. There isn't one on the phone.
Worth a shot.
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Returned EVO for issues. Second one is perfect.

My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
darkfire23 said:
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
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The hardware revision in the settings is the same. I'll check the box tomorrow.
evo401 said:
thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
I believe I am lucky. Even though there are the multitasking issued, which everyone has, my EVO has never done the loading sense home screen thing... And I run some memory hoggin apps. Grindr, last.fm, maps, xda, browser, mail. Never had the reload show up yet.
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I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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What apps, do tell
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im having the light leak issue also.
also the sticker i had was black, like some generic sticker placed over the small clear one that was probably broken already.
i may have been sold one that someone returned. mf's
question: do i have to go to the same store i bought it at to exchange it?
I understand your pain dealing with people that are less knowledgeable than you (a Sprint rep tried to tell me that the SD card on my phone could be what was causing the reception issues if the card was 32gigs, no joke). However, try to understand that most of the time these people are just following instructions set forth by their employers. When things usually start to escalate like that, stay polite and ask for a manager. Believe me, it works better.
Anyway, I'm glad you got a non-defective phone and can start to enjoy it
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
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I exchanged my first EVO LTO for frequent reboots at a Sprint Corporate store, 2nd one perfect!
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
My first was light leakage and second was ripple and all I can find around here all have the ripple, hope this goes away in the upcoming batches...
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cjrdriven said:
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
I had to return my first one as well. I was not getting calls txt or voice mails. Data worked find but nothing else.
exchanged it at best buy, and all my messages came through right away.
I suspect that it was not a phone issue but an activation issue.
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
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You mean like the Galaxy S3, the phone that will have zero problems on launch day? Good luck. My first Evo had a bad pixel, and I am waiting on the replacement. I was going to get the SG3 instead, but after reading the UK SG3 threads, there are a lot of issues. I decided that the Evo is best for me. Whether it is superior or not is subjective.
Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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I'm guessing you didn't have their Touch Pro? I went Samsung after that. That being said I will never buy another Samsung phone, they don't support their phones for ****. I'm with you though I'll take the minor data drops and wait out HTC patches and the much stronger dev support system..
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It is amazing to have the chance to compare two different phones. I ended up unfortunately having that experience after I dropped my brand new EVO LTE in the toilet. My first phone I noticed that it didn't auto dock on my car dock even with the option turned on.
Haven't tried the camera on the new phone but old phone seemed like it didn't take sharp pictures like I was expecting but ones that were more out of focus than really blurry.
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
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Which roms have this built in? I returned my EVO recently and my new phone has the same wifi problems. I would like to try a rom before returning the phone again.
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Asurion Replacement for HTC Evo 3D is...

my wife dropped her HTC Evo 3D and cracked the screen, she has Insurance so i jumped onto Asurion.com and was going through the Process, i know at times they offer the EpicTouch4G as a replacement, but they were offering her a HTCEVO-Standard, is this the Older HTC Evo 4G? the one she upgraded from a year ago to the Evo 3D, and now they are trying to give it to her as a replacement for the 3D, i understand you get something of equal , but i really consider that a DOWNGRADE, i know it couldnt be the HTC Evo LTE, seems like it would of said something like HTCEVO-LTE or something along that, i could be wrong, anyone know for sure what the HTCEVO-standard is? am i correct at thinking its the HTC EVO 4G?
I'm pretty sure it's the Evo 4G. Call and get something better. Ask for a SG2
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lol, I'd be so pissed if they tried to do that to me. Granted I was given a 3D as a replacement for my 4G, but you can't go the other way, that's just shady.
Ya I would be pissed too. I used my upgrade to go from my EVO 4g to my 3d. I would he asking for my upgrade back.
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I'm sure they wouldn't downgrade you. Then again I'm sure they'd try to downgrade you. Lol. Make sure it is the latest EVO 4G LTE. That's my next phone.
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Delakit said:
I'm sure they wouldn't downgrade you. Then again I'm sure they'd try to downgrade you. Lol. Make sure it is the latest EVO 4G LTE. That's my next phone.
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Ya maybe that's what they meant by EVO 4g. I would double check. If that's the case jump on it quick
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They jacking her, ha
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I called them and it was the old HTC EVO 4g and not the EVO 4g LTE , I told them I was not going to give them $100 to go back to a 4G, I explained that only a year ago I had the HTC EVO 4g and paid $200 to upgrade to the EVO 3d, now I have to pay $100 to get a 4g back again, so $300 and 2 years later I have the phone I started out on, the EVO 4g, I told her I was not happy and wasn't doing it, she insisted they were comparable and that's all she could offer, or I could wait 5 days for their stock of EVO 3d's to come in and they would ship me one and I would get it within 2 days of when they come in, again I wasn't happy, having to wait 7+ days for my wife to have a working phone, so I asked to speak to her manager, she put me on hold and I guess switched me over to a manager which then I explained to her my situation, she put me on hold so she could check their inventory of phones, she then came back and said she could offer me the Samsung galaxy s2 which I gladly accepted, I also got this as a replacement for my 3d, I just wonder how many people actually accept the EVO 4g as a replacement for their broken 3d?
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Thanks for posting the thread... It's good to be informed about what's being given as replacements. My EVO3d has a gimpy touch screen. Sometimes it takes several screen cycles to bring it back, and it fights like hell in call. Just can't decide when to pull the trigger on the old girl...
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I called them and it was the old HTC EVO 4g and not the EVO 4g LTE , I told them I was not going to give them $100 to go back to a 4G, I explained that only a year ago I had the HTC EVO 4g and paid $200 to upgrade to the EVO 3d, now I have to pay $100 to get a 4g back again, so $300 and 2 years later I have the phone I started out on, the EVO 4g, I told her I was not happy and wasn't doing it, she insisted they were comparable and that's all she could offer, or I could wait 5 days for their stock of EVO 3d's to come in and they would ship me one and I would get it within 2 days of when they come in, again I wasn't happy, having to wait 7+ days for my wife to have a working phone, so I asked to speak to her manager, she put me on hold and I guess switched me over to a manager which then I explained to her my situation, she put me on hold so she could check their inventory of phones, she then came back and said she could offer me the Samsung galaxy s2 which I gladly accepted, I also got this as a replacement for my 3d, I just wonder how many people actually accept the EVO 4g as a replacement for their broken 3d?
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People gotta be stupid to settle for less
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jdawglx01 said:
Thanks for posting the thread... It's good to be informed about what's being given as replacements. My EVO3d has a gimpy touch screen. Sometimes it takes several screen cycles to bring it back, and it fights like hell in call. Just can't decide when to pull the trigger on the old girl...
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Mine does the same thing and I already got the screen replaced on it once. It acts up about twice a week and I usually just restart the phone. I'd be happy with a SG2 replacement if it comes down to it.
What do you mean by screen cycles?
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o0adam0o said:
Mine does the same thing and I already got the screen replaced on it once. It acts up about twice a week and I usually just restart the phone. I'd be happy with a SG2 replacement if it comes down to it.
What do you mean by screen cycles?
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Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
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Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
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if i had a non working EVO 3D id absolutely would get that switched out with an S2, they just got their official ICS out, and its bigger and faster.
my girl has an T-Mobile S2 and it screams, its great to use and handle. and takes 100x better pictures.. "someone" on xda whoses a "tmo tech" let out that the TMO S2 is set for an Official JB update later this year after the S3 gets it.
the extend batteries and accessory options are better and cheaper as well.
and if it wasnt bad enough the Epic 4g Touch has the better and faster chipset than the TMO S2.
Pull the trigger if u got the chance....
Oh and its also worth more too in the resale market...
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Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
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I see... Yeah I do the same thing to fix mine. Exact same thing happens to me that the buttons don't even work.
I've considered trying to get a replacement but last time I tried they just restored my phone and the problem stopped. Now it's happening again.
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Her replacement arrived today and its brand new not a refurbished , she couldnt be happier! If I was you I would pull the trigger as soon as I seen the replacement as a epic touch 4g or if it says HTC EVO standard call and tell them u don't wanna downgrade and ask what else they have to offer, u might have to be firm with them and talk to a manager but just let them know u don't want the EVO 4g as a replacement, good luck!
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My evo 3d does not conect to computer and somtimes it freezes. My cousin has the galaxy s2 but in my opinion i like the htc sence and rom over the samsung. I also know that there is a better selection of roms to chose from on the evo 3d. I am on mikvergin rom and cant wait for ice cream sandwich so i can overlock the deoman. Sorry for the spelling i am on my 8th beer.i also have s-of on hboot 1.5
Good deal
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Yes, you should get a Galaxy S2 replacement!
Asurion replaced my Evo3D with a GS2 on June 5. It wasn't a refurb, it was brand new. The GS2 was the only choice I had, and I was really upset until I received it. I loved my Evo3D! I miss the 3d and the Sense UI. :crying:
I'm really happy with the Galaxy S2 now tho, especially the USB storage.
I wouldn't have taken the Evo4G, either -- that's b.s! Good luck to the people with future 3d accidents! Insist on the GS2 and don't accept less!
(I had dropped the Evo3D on the street getting out of my car, in Texas, in 105°! I didn't notice for 30 minutes, and it cooked the bottom buttons, (home-menu etc.)
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Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
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Samsung Moment, a nightmare of a phone that will haunt me for the rest of my existence, but this E4GT is hella worth it especially with CM9 on it!
spaceosc said:
if i had a non working EVO 3D id absolutely would get that switched out with an S2, they just got their official ICS out, and its bigger and faster.
my girl has an T-Mobile S2 and it screams, its great to use and handle. and takes 100x better pictures.. "someone" on xda whoses a "tmo tech" let out that the TMO S2 is set for an Official JB update later this year after the S3 gets it.
the extend batteries and accessory options are better and cheaper as well.
and if it wasnt bad enough the Epic 4g Touch has the better and faster chipset than the TMO S2.
Pull the trigger if u got the chance....
Oh and its also worth more too in the resale market...
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Samsung/Sprint borked the shat out of the ICS update for this phone, ppl are saying they think it's deliberate so we'll just go out & buy the S3 lol, but since kernel source was released too, we now have a source built kernel for CM9 & we're about to be official, this is definitely the best time to own a E4GT!
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