so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
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Still not getting folks being so high up with LTE considering most people that inhabit these boards will use the alloted data in the first few days of the month
3G seems fine for me and streaming higher band video content is a battery hog anyway. Speed is nice but IMO, a $30 3G unlimited data plan seems a far more pratical option for most people.
Allotted data? What are you talking about? Correct me if i'm wrong but you are merely assuming that Verizon won't have an unlimited 4G data plan for smartphones. I have seen no information suggesting that there will be no unlimited plan available.
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I hear that Verizon has plans to initially have unlimited LTE data plans for smartphones but they might change that in the future. I'm sure that Verizon's will throttle people's data if they reach 5 gb... Personally, I don't see why they don't simply charge extra for for LTE to allow it to be unlimited like Sprint does. I wouldn't mind paying 10 extra dollars a month for unlimited data from Verizon... I think that the problem with carriers is that they don't want people hogging their airwaves with their PS3, their laptop, and their little brother's iPod Touch tethered to the phone on their network with the "that's what your cable/dsl network is for" attitude. If they truly feel that way, they should start charging cable/dsl prices and remove the caps while using some of the money to build more towers so they won't have to worry about it. They have devices that they're getting ready to release that are capable of playing/streaming 1080p HD videos. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these smartphone//tablets and were only able two watch two or three videos the entire month. If they're gonna have devices that require a lot of bandwidth to reasonably perform to one's liking, the shouldn't release these devices until their networks are able to handle them being in the hands of the masses. It makes no sense to pay 40-50 dollars for internet at 4G speeds while paying 250-600+ for a device and have to go to find a hotspot to connect to wifi or connect to wifi at home.
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3G unlimited for $30 and LTE for $50 seems fare. That way, they get the revenue for folks using the service to update towers. I would say $40, but probably no way VZW would charge that for LTE.
If Verizon has unlimited LTE data for HTC Thunderbolt, they would get a lot of people to buy it. The question is would they get enough revenue to continue to keep it unlimited while upgrading their towers... It would be understandable if they put a 5 gb cap on the mobile hotspot feature because they wouldn't be able to sell their USB modems (which they charge mb and gb packages). But to not have unlimited LTE data from Verizon for a smartphone save the mobile hotspot feature is ridiculous imo. AT&T's LTE plans for the future include limited data and data speed to be purchased in tiers; Verizon can really keep them at bay with unlimited LTE data for strictly smartphones. The question is will Verizon compete directly with AT&T's LTE plans (match AT&T's plans). They reality is that they don't have to. They can make a more attractive unlimited LTE data plan and net more customers and "defectors" from AT&T while making them look like greedy money-hungry cornballs.
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Agreed bobbyseals. Verizon won't disappoint.
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Agreed bobbyseals. Verizon won't disappoint.
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Hopefully...
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http://phandroid.com/2011/02/02/rumor-verizon-4g-unlimited-data-plans-to-debut-at-29-99/
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if they allow me to keep 3g unlimited for 29.99 and make 4g an option I'll be happy cause there isn't many places covered by 4g anyway... I wont change from my incredible if its going to cost me 20 more a month
Agreed, and I live in 4g, and work on the LTE project.
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if they allow me to keep 3g unlimited for 29.99 and make 4g an option I'll be happy cause there isn't many places covered by 4g anyway... I wont change from my incredible if its going to cost me 20 more a month
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Good one, I want the Thunderbolt for the device and not so much for the LTE. That said, yes I can sit here at the office and run our LTE USB and get 20 - 25 mbps and run up 5 gigs in short fashion then really start paying out the wazoo, but RevA EVDO at 2 mbps I can do just fine watching HULU or teathering Skype with video or whatever which is fast enough. I might give a few bucks more for the LTE if it is unlimited, but never buy myself into a plan that caps my data and makes me pay more just to get a speed boost that I just do not need now.
If 3g would actually give me the speed its supposed to I wouldn't need 4g at all. I rarely get over 200kbps down on att's hspa network.
That would be dumb for them to charge same price as current data. How do they justify the 4G investment? that would be one red looking net present value business case
My guess is $45 (30 +15 premium).
Lets not forget Verizon is about to rake in tons of new subscribers while barely spending a dime in advertising (i*hone)
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Lets not forget Verizon is about to rake in tons of new subscribers while barely spending a dime in advertising (i*hone)
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From the new BestBuy leak there will be a $30 unlimited option on thunderbolt. Which would make me get it over the iphone. $30 for 4g would be amazing.
Ive played with the thunderbolt and honestly you will only notice the 4g when downloading.On web pages not so much.
EDIT/UPDATE: File your complaint with the FCC over the bandwidth throttle;
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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Using AT&T and a new SGS2. I've had a grandfathered "unlimited" plan for 10 years @ $30/mo.
"Unlimited" by definition means 'without limitations, unrestricted'. I was getting over 700KB/sec download before the throttle, now I barely get 15KB/sec, it's effectively crippled my phone and certainly made GPS unusable. Calls to AT&T are pointless, they have a different definition of 'unlimited' and are telling me the throttle won't be lifted until my next billing cycle in January.
Two questions;
Does anyone else find this absurd? "Unlimited" is a very specific, non-ambiguous term.
And has anyone found a way around this?
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of course its absurd but there's no way around it
I'm not a lawyer but this seems like class-action material. It's false advertising, at the very least.
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Just wondering, how much did you use per minutes of internet before hey started throttling you?
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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That's the complaint there, can't figure out what's triggering the throttling.
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edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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3G and Faug G data speeds vary greatly by market. I think LTE is fairly consistent market to market, and in those markets the HSPA+ data is generally 8-11 Mbps.
Some people complain when they are throttled down to 100KB/s, something that's a good day for me.
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To answer those that asked, and yes, I admit this might seem ridiculous, but I did ~10.6GB in 14 days. Prior to that, I averaged 10-20GB a month with no hassles. With the new phone, the $0.10 Google market sale and a lot of experiementing, it was higher than expected with the new speeds. Still, "unlimited" is unlimited.
The notice I got came in the form a text, informing me that I should check their data plans (again, I have unlimited, why would I care?) and then a second notice that came in hours later - sometime around 4-5am that read:
"ATT Free Msg: Your data use is approaching the top 5% of users. Avoid reduced data speeds, use Wi-Fi where available. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-344-7584"
That's it. The warning came but I was already throttled and the "smart" part of my phone is effectively useless.
Read this story it explains how AT$T determines who should get throttled.
In a nut shell if you live in a area that has high data usage then the threshold is a lot higher then if you live in a area that has low data usage.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AT-T-iPhone-data-throttle-4G-2G,news-13445.html
Dude 25GB is excessive!
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But the i777 doesn't have LTE.....right?
Can't we sue at t for throttling since we never signed up for throttled plan.. It suppose to be unlimited and they are not throttling other data plans
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It doesn't say anywhere in your agreement you are set to get certain speeds. It also says all over that att will do whatever they deem necessary if they feel your use can cause detrimental affects on other users.
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Made an update to my earlier post. My account on att.com reports that I did 10.6GB and was roughly half-way into my billing cycle.
Since their nerfbat hits entire neighborhoods (by design) it makes for some ridiculous scenarios. This **** was obviously derived by committee.
Question: Is it even possible to consume all of the data in your plan if you are restricted to 2G? No. It's not.
AT&T's plan caps can't even be consumed at 2G speeds, it would be fun to see a class-action against AT&T for failure to fulfill contract by deliberate act.
Scenario:
1) you use a bunch of data quickly to DL something in the beginning of the month.
2) AT&T flags you and demotes you to 2G for the remainder of the month.
3) At full 2G speed, you DL everything you can, but are only able to use up 2/3 of your paid data plan simply because it is not possible to use more than that with 2G in a month.
While you're stuck at 2G, your 3G-equipped neighbor is now in the top 5% and gets demoted to 2G, too.
Yes, I smell class-action.
Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Technically you are unlimited, they're not completely shutting down your data. You can still transfer all day long, just at a slow pace.
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Creative English at it's best. ATT: Oh we didn't mean unlimited we were saying "Hey, its uhh, limited. "
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I got my rezound around 2 1/2 weeks ago and as of this posting I have used 7.022 gb (I'm 15 days into the 31 days of the billing cycle). This is the highest I've ever used so I was just wondering..what is amount of data everyone uses on a normal basis and what the Max amount of data you ever used? Does having a 4g phone significantly increase data usage? I haven't done anything special that I didn't do with my old 3g phone..
average for me is about 50GB/month. most i've ever used was like 110GB(tethered & downloaded/installed all my steam games on my new laptop).
i do a lot of streaming & tethering.
if you're unlimited, don't worry. they only care if 3g users are using too much data.
I use about 7 gigs a month on rare occasions.. depends how much netflix i watch.. i usually use about 2-4 gigs a month on average.
cheers
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average for me is about 50GB/month. most i've ever used was like 110GB(tethered & downloaded/installed all my steam games on my new laptop).
i do a lot of streaming & tethering.
if you're unlimited, don't worry. they only care if 3g users are using too much data.
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That's crazy..everyone keeps saying verizon throttles, did you get throttled?
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average for me is about 50GB/month. most i've ever used was like 110GB(tethered & downloaded/installed all my steam games on my new laptop).
i do a lot of streaming & tethering.
if you're unlimited, don't worry. they only care if 3g users are using too much data.
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I used 25gigs last month. glad to know I'm not in the top 5%
Used like twenty last billing cycle, so far two thus far.
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That's crazy..everyone keeps saying verizon throttles, did you get throttled?
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i've never been throttled and know someone who always goes over 100gb and never gets throttled either. had heard from a verizon employee that they only care about people on 3g using too much data. apparently there's plenty of 4g to go around.
I've used 5gb in the past 4 days.. Average 25-50ish. I also load obscene amounts of webpages lol
22G last month and am at 15G this month. Use easy teather for my laptop alot streaming Netflix
Chris
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average for me is about 50GB/month. most i've ever used was like 110GB(tethered & downloaded/installed all my steam games on my new laptop).
i do a lot of streaming & tethering.
if you're unlimited, don't worry. they only care if 3g users are using too much data.
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Haha Big Red can suck on my unlimited data plan. I WILL NEVAR GIVE IT UP. NEVARRRRRR!!!!!!
I've used about 2GB a month on my Rezound... less than I thought I would actually.
consistent
60 gb per month. when i was in virginia using 3g , i was throttled even using thunderbolt. now in chicago with average 60, never had a connection on 4g less than 7 down and 4 up. usually my speed runs 15 down and 10 up on rezound.
I use 2-3GB max.
Who cares. I have unlimited
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Haha Big Red can suck on my unlimited data plan. I WILL NEVAR GIVE IT UP. NEVARRRRRR!!!!!!
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until everyone is on a lte device (verizon has stated they are not making anymore 3g smartphones, which leads everyone to believe the next iphone will have lte), and then I would guess throttling will come into play.
Personally I use on average about 7-8gb a month. But I don't tether. I prefer a wired connection for my home internet, much more stable speeds and reliability.
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KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
Thanks for the input..I'm glad to see I'm not the one using so much data. For a while I thought that myverizon data counter was rigged.
damn i wish i had UNLIMITED DATA or 4g, i dont even know wat the 4g icon look like lol im on wifi all day every day so i average less then 1gig a month jus thinking bout changing my data to 750mbs but dont wanna lose my 4gig
Damn, some of you live it up haha.
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Damn, some of you live it up haha.
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This is the only fast unlimited. I'm enjoying this.
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I asked this in the razr form, but I got nailed. Verizon markets this phone to death and when I have have been on the phone with them calls it "there best phone". I am on my 2nd phone and 2nd sim card. They will not take this one back.
What should I do? What can I do help!!!
Videos:
1st phone:
1)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=relmfu
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzvVb79-Qg&feature=channel
3)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDnByyo0tw&feature=channel
2nd phone:
1)http://youtu.be/l1L_EZVEsHw
2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOo4q4qGZCc&feature=channel
Thanks from 4ktvs
Edit: Ok I guess not. I guess I need to ask for a new phone some how. I don't think they will take this one back.
How much do rez's go for?
Thanks
Edit: full data use:
January: about 30Gb ( Unlimited LTE was cool as mess at the time, but droped a lot. )
February: 89Gb ( Internet was bad)
March: 54Gb ( Internet was still bad, but got it fixed.)
So far: 35GB and it just ended. ( I uploaded a lot of thing's with it. When working that is)
More: So I have not even used 50mb, not gb MB and this happened:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9KuhIivbm4
The end: Well I guess using 90gb throttle's you forever on Verizon and now I will have to keep my month to month line on AT&T. I will just wait it out and end it at the end of the 2 years. oh well I can live with it.
Thread is done, Mods lock this thread down. It has turned into a flame fest and I will take full hit for this.
just an update to say it's been fixed, no more 500kbs every 24hours.
Sorry to all for thinking I was "throttled", but I looked all over the internet: Xda,youtube, verizon forums, and more. I could not find any one with the same issue. And yes I should be called stupid, a jerk, and the list go's on.
I was hard headed about this issue and I was not right.
And even if I had been "throttled" I got what was coming any ways. I did not think it was fair to be throttled for is long as I was, but I have had a weekend to think about it. Any way just happy to have this fixed and I don't be using 50+GB a month any more, thats for sure.
Any way sorry for being a bit of a jerk and no I don't think you will just "forgive" me or anything, but I when I know I have been a jerk. The lest I could do is say your right and I was not.
Edit again: It has come back so now I went to the BBB and the FCC.
If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
No. Unless you're on 3G. And even then, probably not.
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If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
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there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/
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If I remember correctly, Verizon does not throttle 4G - they will only throttle 3G and only if you're in their "top 5%" which really just means you've consumed more than 5GB of data on the current billing cycle..
Looks like maybe you're either in an area with terrible 4G coverage, or you should have just gotten a Rezound and not a RAZR
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I should have went for the rezound, but my verizon bud pushed the razr and I said ok.
Now I guess I got a crap phone. Do I need to buy a new phone? (Rezound)
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there actually HAS been 4g throttling cases. if you use a **** ton of data on an unlimited plan they will throttle you. a guy on rootzwiki i think the galaxy nexus forums, had data throttling on 4g and the customer service lady said it was because he was in the top 5% of users :/
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YES thank you. tell me more
I used 12Gb and bam 400-600kbs day and night.
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YES thank you. tell me more
I used 12Gb and bam 400-600kbs day and night.
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12gb?!? That's insane I barely brake 2 on my unlimited
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Here's the link idk if they found a solution http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14945-yes-verizon-does-throttle-4g/
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My internet was bad. I got mad at this when I got 600kbs, so I started uploading youtube videos with it and now I sit at 30GB.
Yeah I'm not sure - they state clearly that they do not throttle 4G, but we all know that what they say and what they do aren't always the same thing. But the one thing I can tell you is that I get great 4G speeds and coverage on my Rezound, but I am not a huge data user. I have an unlimited plan, and tether my tablet to my phone everyday, but I generally only use between 2 and 3GB per month, so I've never gotten up into the range where throttling would be a problem. Honeslty I keep it in 3G mode 99% of the time because its fast enough for what I do (mostly just RDP connections, Google Music, light web browsing and Google Maps) and the battery lasts much longer.
look around the forums. iirc there is a data throttle remover. I never owned a razr so I don't know if one was developed for that phone.
Verizon is NOT throttling 4G, unless they've changed their policies. And even then, they don't throttle 3G like AT&T throttles. It's not based on individual users, it's based on tower load, so whoever made up this "5%" thing needs to get their story straight if they're going to make sh*t up.
read
support.verizonwireless.com/information/data_disclosure.html
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read
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To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
my internet seemed slow when i was at 1.9gbs-2gbs and then when i went over 2gbs it was fine. idk bug or something.
tekhna said:
To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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correct
tekhna said:
To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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it SAYS the top 5% there! your PROVING yourself wrong. quit raging about making up stuff when it says it on the VERIZON website. SIT DOWN jk lol
tekhna said:
To optimize our network, we manage data connection speeds for a small subset of customers – the top 5% of data users with 3G devices on unlimited data plans – and only in places and at times of 3G network congestion.
It's not about the top 5%, it's about place and time. You could be 5% and never get throttled because the towers you use aren't congested.
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So what is this then and have you seen it before?
I have had some time trying to get this fixed.
antp121 said:
it SAYS the top 5% there! your PROVING yourself wrong. quit raging about making up stuff when it says it on the VERIZON website. SIT DOWN jk lol
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read again, this time with your eyes.
4ktvs said:
So what is this then and have you seen it before?
I have had some time trying to get this fixed.
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No, I haven't because I have a 4G phone, and so do you, which means it doesn't apply to us. You're not being throttled.
All,
Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
laughingcolors said:
All,
Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
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Maybe its begun..
xredjokerx said:
Maybe its begun..
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reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
laughingcolors said:
reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
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still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
laughingcolors said:
still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
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What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
TonikJDK said:
What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
230 gigs?! No wonder they are throttling you. Even 30 gigs would probably be cause for them to throttle you.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
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I see why they throttle you lol.
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I was getting on average of 15-18mbps a month ago but now I am getting on average 3-4mbps. Pretty crappy but that is why Verizon is no longer the #1 carrier in my eyes.
230 gigs through a cell phone is excessive. I use the crap out if mine and barely make 4 gigs. I can't even imagine 230 gigs.
Driodx isnt the only one using that amount of data last month I hit 263 gigs I stream a lot,Netflix etc. After I rolled over this month im at 70 gigs so I say unlimited should be unlimited I pay 29 for unlimited and its 30 for 2 gigs the basic data plan Verizon's greed is running a muck
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I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
Wait a second your saying tower congestion is to blame and putting that on those who use their unlimited data as an unlimit to which means NO LIMIT as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed no its Verizon's decision to throttle and force those of us on an unlimited plan to change simply because of greed
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... as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed ...
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hey man, I hate this over populated state and all I want to do is escape to the country someday, but I'm stuck here at the moment, you don't have to rub it in.
PhilDX said:
I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
They've begun throttling me in so cal, i use about 10-30 gigs a month but its all twitch streaming, youtube videos, netflix. Nothing nefarious. Sometimes getting the google.com page to load up takes a min, thats how bad they are throttling. Its horrible.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
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I'm not happy with VZW throttling, it would definitely be much better if they upgraded their network to support more bandwidth. I have been buying phones at full retail just to hang on to my unlimited data plan, that's how much I want to keep it.
the problem is none of us are under contract for unlimited data anymore, the two year contracts have all expired (or will soon). so basically VZW can do whatever they want to maximize profit - they can throttle the heaviest users or they can terminate the unlimited data plans entirely and force all of us back on 2 Gb plans. that's what I want to avoid. I would rather keep unlimited data and be forced to stay below their stated throttling threshold (5 Gb per billing cycle) than lose it entirely and be limited to 2Gb per billing cycle.
I was able to keep my unlimited data when I purchased a new phone and started a new 2 year contract by using the best buy website trick.
issues also going on with others via reddit;
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskLosAngel...ne_else_having_trouble_with_verizon_wireless/
They tried to steal my UDP. I've noticed that occasionally it goes to a crawl. As of now I'm on stock rooted 4.4.2 unlocked. Everything else runs great. I'd say on a really data heavy month (using pbay etc) I can get to 20 but I usually float around 10-15