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like the title, i have someone who willing to swap his SGS2 with my iphone4. i lke the SGS2 but i am not sure wether it is worth the swap. if u guys be me, would u do it? i use my device mainly for text, internet and organizer. not really into game. i like the big screen of SGS2 which can make web browsing more enjoyable.
thanks for your opinion. =)
1) You are on XDA Developers, who believe in openness and the freedom to customize your device as you please.
2) You ask whether you will regret the swap from iOS to Android here, especially about a phone that is on demand by most and is Android.
I don't think there is a proper way to answer it, its like asking the Mac forums whether you would regret the switch to Windows.
I would suggest playing with an Android device to see whether you like it. I am switching from an iOS device to the SGS II as well and I dont think I will regret it. Especially now that Android Market place has almost the same apps and this device is a Dual Core 1GB Ram beast.
exactly, you are on the sgs2 section of xda forum....
it really is a personal thing, my suggestion is make the change and have a taste of android OS, if you don't like it, wait for the iphone 5~
A plain swap? Hell yes. Even if you don't like it just sell it for like $750-$800 (convert it to your local currency just in case) when the iPhone 4 is just around $450-$500. You will make more money even if you don't like the phone.
I would love to find someone here in Toronto who is willing to just swap their SGS2 with my iPhone 4...it's going to suck having to cough up an extra $150-200
I personally wouldnt regret the swap of an iphone for a Nokia 2110. So swapping an iphone for an SGS2, youll b fine!
I'm doing the same thing, and I doubt I'll have any regrets whatsoever. I'm gaining money and I'm switching to a better, newer phone.
As above, go for it
Seriously, this phone is likely to be the first true iPhone killer, where it performs better than your iThing... Take a look at video reviews to get a flavour of it Some phrases that sprung to mind included "smoothest android phone yet" etc...
And if you really don't like it, you should be able to resell it at a better price, or indeed find someone who would trade the SGS II for an iP4 again...
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Seriously, this phone is likely to be the first true iPhone killer
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lol i love that phrase....'iphone killer'... using that phrase is like saying the iphone is the number one phone and all the other phones being made are clawing at its feet, waiting for it to drop a crumb of food!
I will not submit to the notion that the iphone is in anyway better than my old Nokia 2110!
(This is just my opinion and may not reflect the opinion of millions of other who have made the iphone one of the best selling phones in the world)
Coming from iphone 4 i love this sgs2 more, its not my first android device so i no what to expect and its a pleasure using this its super fast and enjoyable, ill be honest i would of got iphone 5 if that was released, i will still buy ip5 when its out but ill be keeping this beast still, every1 has there own taste but your getting so much more out of this than an ip4,
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lol i love that phrase....'iphone killer'... using that phrase is like saying the iphone is the number one phone and all the other phones being made are clawing at its feet, waiting for it to drop a crumb of food!
I will not submit to the notion that the iphone is in anyway better than my old Nokia 2110!
(This is just my opinion and may not reflect the opinion of millions of other who have made the iphone one of the best selling phones in the world)
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Neither will I, but I am just conveying what some of the fanbois are saying =D
Engadget are some of the biggest fanbois and they loved it.
One thing I have noticed is, the text display rendering, especially in browser is better on iPhone. The columns resize to readable fonts on double tapping in iOS. Android browser doesn't have such 'sophisticated' column resize etc.
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Engadget are some of the biggest fanbois and they loved it.
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I was surprised by Igadgets write up!
totally do the swap, even if you dont like it, the sgs2 is worth more $$$ than the iphone4, you just cannot lose
if you don't like it, sell it, buy a new iphone4, and get some beers with the rest of the money
I already swapped my Iphone 4 for a Windows Phone 7 mobile some months ago so...
Itunes is nothing else than a Virus. You will feel the freedom and the power with SGII.
Just wondering if anyone else is feeling like me, and getting tired of Android. Considering abandoning Android and moving to an iPhone or (maaaaybe) WP7.
Normally I would have never considered it. Like a year ago.
But two things happened...
1: I got an ipad2, and found out that I really enjoyed it.
2. My phone broke. Twice. First the motherboard, and then the touchscreen died. Ive had a total of 5 Android phones (mostly HTC and Samsung) two of those had minor issues, and this one, which basically became TWICE. it's not so much that the hardware breaks that bothers me. That can happen to any phone. What bothers me is the hours you spend on the phone, weeks you wait while it's being repaired, arguing with the phone company whether they should get you a new phone, and on and on and on. Contrast this with Apples customer service. You go to the Apple store, and many times they just give you a new phone if e problem is serious enough, or repeats itself.
And then there's Android itself. Don't get me wrong, I love Android. But there are some things that never really change. The occasional lag or choppy listview you still get with a dual core CPU (!) and mediocre battery life.
And the whole software and hardware upgrade circus...
I got a top of the line Evo3d phone last year, which was supposed to get upgraded to ICS relatively fast, and then a couple of weeks ago HTC all of a sudden made an announcement that pretty much said: "Screw you, Evo3D owners! We're updating other handsets first, so you'll have to wait at least till summertime to get an update!"
And nevermind that you can forget about software updates after a year (If youre very lucky, year and a half. Yes there are developer updates and ROMS, but really, I can't be bothered with it anymore)
The hardware situation is also frustrating. Your phone is outdated in less than a year, replaced by yet another faster flagship, that despite the higher specs only seems to be marginally faster.
Compare that to iPhones, that don't just work, but work well... And not only does a three year old iPhone 3GS STILL get updates to the latest version of iOS (Do you even remember the Android phone you had three years ago? Chances are the last OS update was 3 or 4 versions ago) and an almost two year old iPhone4 not only keeps its resale value really high, it still FEELS like a top of the line phone, able to keep up with today's flagships.
IOS and iPhones obviously arent perfect, and have their flaws too. And I'm still not sure if I'm going to jump ship (or maybe should try WP7) but has anyone else felt frustrated with the whole Android experience and have considered switching?
the occasional lag and stutter is due to the lack of hardware acceleration in gingerbread roms/apps. ICS should take care of that. Also you need to keep in mind that android is constantly improving. All these issues we have now will be corrected by google. Yes, i agree with you on our phones becoming outdated fast, but if that's an issue for you get a nexus phone.
I own an android tablet and an iphone 4 (company phone)
Maybe I would try win mobile but I would not get an iphone for personal use. To your point about the software updates you are not being fair. Ios updates are minor, largely bug fixes, and Ios is almost identical to its original form. Be careful what you wish for regarding 3 year old devices getting software updates. Ask someone with a iPhone 3g how ios 4 worked out for them. My wife had her iPhone 4 go back 3 times for major repairs and freezes occasionally needing to be hard rebooted so hardware problems are not just android issues. Battery life on the iPhone is horrible since ios 5.
Listen, if you like ios and the iPhone there is no issue with that. I do not find android lagier than ios, in fact my old Samsung captivate blows my iPhone 4 away speed wise. The iPad is a great device, I just can't warrent the cost for a device with no flash player.
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ive had 3 iphones. all together. and yes it is a great phone. just a quick summary. if the iphone drops, be prepared to spend lots of money. software wise i hardly faced much issues.IOS is very good and stable, but battery is realy bad.
im new to androids, and i like the fact that its constantly improving. and of course how everyting can be customized. on an iphone, its like apple owns the phone and not you. then u JB it, and still limitations will be there.
and IOS is kind of boring, hehe , android is a bit more fun.
im never sick of android. i would get an iphone but i don't really have the time to sit at starbucks and fake write stories on a macbook so i can look deep to women in their teens.
I see nothing that is the fault of Google's Android. Hardware issues are the fault of the manufacturer and should be covered under warranty. You can't blame an OS for hardware issues. Upgrades one again are the manufacturer's decision. You could make the argument that Android OEMs need to be let in earlier in development (similar to Windows) so that they can have upgrades out in a timely manner. But most of the upgrade stalling come from the stupid custom skins/launchers that OEMs feel the need to distribute. So don't get mad at Android when most of your problems are caused the the OEM.
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Just wondering if anyone else is feeling like me, and getting tired of Android. Considering abandoning Android and moving to an iPhone or (maaaaybe) WP7.
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2. My phone broke. Twice. First the motherboard, and then the touchscreen died. Ive had a total of 5 Android phones (mostly HTC and Samsung) two of those had minor issues, and this one, which basically became TWICE. it's not so much that the hardware breaks that bothers me. That can happen to any phone. What bothers me is the hours you spend on the phone, weeks you wait while it's being repaired, arguing with the phone company whether they should get you a new phone, and on and on and on. Contrast this with Apples customer service. You go to the Apple store, and many times they just give you a new phone if e problem is serious enough, or repeats itself.
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And the whole software and hardware upgrade circus...
I got a top of the line Evo3d phone last year, which was supposed to get upgraded to ICS relatively fast, and then a couple of weeks ago HTC all of a sudden made an announcement that pretty much said: "Screw you, Evo3D owners! We're updating other handsets first, so you'll have to wait at least till summertime to get an update!"
And nevermind that you can forget about software updates after a year (If youre very lucky, year and a half. Yes there are developer updates and ROMS, but really, I can't be bothered with it anymore)
The hardware situation is also frustrating. Your phone is outdated in less than a year, replaced by yet another faster flagship, that despite the higher specs only seems to be marginally faster.
Compare that to iPhones, that don't just work, but work well... And not only does a three year old iPhone 3GS STILL get updates to the latest version of iOS (Do you even remember the Android phone you had three years ago? Chances are the last OS update was 3 or 4 versions ago) and an almost two year old iPhone4 not only keeps its resale value really high, it still FEELS like a top of the line phone, able to keep up with today's flagships.
IOS and iPhones obviously arent perfect, and have their flaws too. And I'm still not sure if I'm going to jump ship (or maybe should try WP7) but has anyone else felt frustrated with the whole Android experience and have considered switching?
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Considered switching? No. I came from iPhone. I would never go back. Must address some things you said from my own personal experience...
RE: phone braking - I'm not sure what experience you've had with Apple, but I've *never* had them just replace a phone in the way that you are implying. Depending on the problem, you may have to send your phone away for repairs or possibly purchase a new one. Unless it is obvious that the problem is on their end, they don't just give you a new phone on the spot. You have to deal with the same discussions of why it's broken, what happened, multiple attempts to repair, blah blah blah. My *one* hard button stopped working for some time, and had to deal with going into the store 4 times and calling customer service repeatedly. It's every company. Can't avoid it.
RE: updates - Yes, they give updates to all phones... but they essentially only have ONE PHONE. Apple doesn't have the plethora of phone brands/types that Android does. So, yes, the iPhone 3 and iPhone 4 get updated with IOS 5. What happened with those updates? My iPhone nearly bricked. I was getting error messages that said that my iPhone "was not compatible" and could not update. It took my sister's iPhone 4 nearly 4 months to finally accept and install the update. Now that it's installed, her apps are FC'ing constantly, her phone freezes on a daily basis (and she can't just pull the battery, keep in mind), push notifications are not working (even though her settings are fine), and her phone dies within 4-5 hours. So... yeah. Not all sunshine and roses.
RE: phone outdated - iPhone 4 comes out, and months later Apple releases their "new phone," being the iPhone 4S. And yes, it's in quotes cause it's essentially the same phone with the addition of Siri. I was pissed at the time. My iPhone 4, which looks and feels and performs just like the brand new version, was now outdated because it didn't have a creepy chick that could talk. /bitterness. At least with Android, if your phone is outdated, it's because a truly new phone has been released - new look, new feel, new OS, new specs, new features, etc.
I get the Apple appeal. I do. I was there once. If you enjoy rooting, flashing custom roms, and having the opportunity to customize your phone, don't jump ship. Sure, you could jailbreak your iPhone, but then you'd just be able to change a couple of settings (ones that you can tailor on a Droid w/o rooting). However, if that stuff doesn't excite and drive you, and you just want a phone to stay stock, and just do basic functions, then maybe the iPhone is best for you. I thought it was fine until I realized I wanted to be able to do more. Just don't jump ship thinking that Apple is some magic company. You'll be disappointed. I was.
mcord11758 said:
I own an android tablet and an iphone 4 (company phone)
Maybe I would try win mobile but I would not get an iphone for personal use. To your point about the software updates you are not being fair. Ios updates are minor, largely bug fixes, and Ios is almost identical to its original form. Be careful what you wish for regarding 3 year old devices getting software updates. Ask someone with a iPhone 3g how ios 4 worked out for them. My wife had her iPhone 4 go back 3 times for major repairs and freezes occasionally needing to be hard rebooted so hardware problems are not just android issues. Battery life on the iPhone is horrible since ios 5.
Listen, if you like ios and the iPhone there is no issue with that. I do not find android lagier than ios, in fact my old Samsung captivate blows my iPhone 4 away speed wise. The iPad is a great device, I just can't warrent the cost for a device with no flash player.
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+10000... totally agree.
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im never sick of android. i would get an iphone but i don't really have the time to sit at starbucks and fake write stories on a macbook so i can look deep to women in their teens.
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Muahahaha this just made me LOL! Quite possibly one of the best comments I've read on XDA. I approve!
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Never get tired of Android . Came from WinMo to Android, and will never go back. As far as Apple and their precious Iphone . NO THANK YOU . Know several people ( Lots ) with everything from the original Iphone to the new Iphone 4S. Nothing but issues and situations. My one bud dropped his day old 4S from about three feet off the ground. Done . It practically shattered. But that's not a big deal take it in if you have insurance, and done. WRONG! Took it in and he got a refurb. Nothing but issues with it. Others I know treat their phones like it's made of crystal. they still have nothing but software issues. I'd say it was isolated, but I'm talking about 15 different people. Out of that group, only 4 have never had an issue with their phones. So IMO it's not worth it. But it's only my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.
i love android and would never abandon it. if u think that iPhone is better than u are so wrong. with iPhone u pay 100% more for 20% less. 65% parts in iPhone are from samsung.
Just don't jump ship thinking that Apple is some magic company. You'll be disappointed. I was.
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totally agree with u m8
i came from iphone -> winMo -> Android i have been using android devices for about 2 years and i can say i will not look back. Android has a great community with great people and devs
Android is the only one for me.. I had I phone 4s......crap lol boring same as the past iPhone's great for people that just want a phone really that dose a few things on the side games ..internet ..fb.. lol but that's about it great for my wife that not technically minded. Android you can customize .. from UI straight down to hardware. As I say each time SHEEP.....copy after copy .....
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Android is better but...
I think android is better, cause i love to costumize my phone hardly, but u know.. it always unstable lorr..
Maybe i need secondary phone like blackberry just to calling and texting.
I have iPhone 4S, iPad2 a well as an android tablet (tf101) and phone, dunno about WP but iOS has it's merits. Definitely smoother (not necessarily faster). However the small size and lack of 4g/widgets/everything is a deal breaker. Since getting ICS on my tablet and my phone, it just seems to be a higher level of product that does more stuff than iOS especially once Cornerstone becomes more standard.
Also I think iOS crashes more http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/ ,I've certainly had a few problems.
It looks like most of your annoyances surround the fact that iOS devices get updates much quicker. Can't really help that but you haven't said much about why android the OS bothers you. Is something terrible about your less-than-current OS? As for hardware, even iPhones have hardware problems and they break/crack much more easily. If you're going to complain about battery life, I hope you know the iphone's battery life isn't really better than the newer androids. Except on most androids you can use spare batteries if you want. If you like using your phone 100% without worrying about battery life that's an easy way. Choppy list scrolling is noticeable on most androids but rare on most newer phones, never really bothers me but that's hardly a deal breaker compared to the features variety that iphones lack.
Ics will amaze you with zero lag.
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I find more and more I love about my phone/android practically everyday. It has actually made life easier in many aspects. Wouldn't think about switching. Just my opinion. Cheers!
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I love Android. I have Apple stuff at home like an iPod and to be honest, never liked it. Wife uses it mostly. I find my Android can do a hell of a lot of stuff and it's fast and there is just so much customization you can't do with an iPhone/iPod. Could not see me not enjoying this Nexus phone I got. I got it unlocked with custom kernel etc and it's way better than it was at stock. So in summary, not at all getting bored with my Android phone. I love it.
I came to android from Blackberry, and an old windows ce phone. I can honestly say that I LOVE my Motorola Atrix android phone. It works....works well....and is so much faster than the crackberry. My sig other, on the other hand, HATES her Samsung Galaxy Vibrant. It seems to get headaches all the time. (a combination of hardware glitches and user error, but I won't tell her that ) I just won't buy into the Apple empire, even if Stevo is gone.
Having plodded through years of Symbian 3rd on the Nokia E71 and E5, I am delighted on a daily basis by the newer, shinier, more customisable UI Android provides. My Galaxy Note is not, however, a better *phone* than the E5. It's a better everything else, though. I keep the E5 as a quickdraw backup.
Overall though, the reason I prefer android is the "wild west" feel of thousands of excellent applications and very few restrictions on how to arrange and use them on my device. Same as Windows vs Mac, really. People would all use Macs if the top 200 games on Steam were compatible with that and not PCs. We go where the mojo is.
It's your money and if you think you like iOS more then get the phone!!
For me, I like Android more now especially Android phones even though I have an iPad. And I had an iPhone before getting my first Android phone.
Will most likely never buy a android phone again. I switched a little over a year ago. I will buy android tablets though cuz i see no point getting an ipad wen i have a iphone. I don't have any problems with my or fiences iphone. No problems with updates like someone else said either. I just came back to Android when i bought my Transformer Tablet and installed ics. Android is still laggy with GPU hardware acceleration forced on or off and don't let me start on the laggy Netflix app compared to the ios version. I still love my Android tablet.
I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
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Have fun with your iPhone 5 which just now caught up to the OG EVO in terms of technology....
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When I get bored I flash a new ROM and play with that lol
all the roms are the same imo.
all sense roms look and feel the same
I had miui and aosp on my nexus s and had that.
Im just bored lol
Iphone 5 isnt that bad. its got a solid processor thats better than the current s4.
The build quality has also always been really good too.
Well, the glass panel on the back was a poor decision but overall I agree on build quality
You're bored with ANDROID and think an iPhone will excite you?? Hahaha.
Enjoy deciding whether your icons are on screen one or screen two.
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I understand where you are coming from, but if you are a tech geek iphone won't excite you for long, you just want the latest toys. The tech everyone wants. And right now you are trying to justify it
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I understand where you are coming from, but if you are a tech geek iphone won't excite you for long, you just want the latest toys. The tech everyone wants. And right now you are trying to justify it
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If i had the nexus s and the evo now.. im pretty sure thats not the case.
sell evo
buy ip5
sell ip5
buy newest android.
The Iphone 5 processor is better than the s4? Sure, on paper it looks nice but I personally won't make that call until I get to use them side by side. The s4 is such a good processor that even Samsung uses it in the us version of the galaxy 3. I'm not an apple fan, but in fairness, they make nice devices. To each their own.
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Keep evo
**** on iphone 5
Buy next best Android device in 6 months
Win.
- I'm a fungi
joebarkho said:
I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
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Hey Joe, I been with Apple iPhone since the iPhone 3G-3GS. I got all into it and started to learn the process for jailbreaking. Let me just tell say, it was fun but like every customization. Not everything works! Due to the jailbreaking team catching up on the random iOS updates. Long story short.. When the iPhone 4 came out I was one of the few to get it the first day. It was a pretty good change at the time coming from the 3G. It took Apple two years to come out with the iPhone 5. I was waiting for the world wide conference to see if it will finally bring a change to the table. After seeing that it still looks like the iPhone 4 and will not surpass a big difference in performance like the iPhone 4S. I made the jump to Android over this past weekend. I knew I was because I had my doubts about Apple just trying to make more money. The reason I knew was making the change was because a few months back when the Samsung Galaxy S2 was at its peak I was a proud owner of one for about 3 months. While having a iPhone 4 and a Android device I quickly began to tell the difference in how advance Android phones were about. The screen size, the none laggyness, the performance was amazing compared to any iPhone. My girl now flows with the iPhone 4S. And to tell you the truth, yes its responsive but it still lacks in the department of performance. For me it lacks in two major factors! Free to customization and screen size. Plus the fact of having such a noob "user friendly" OS system is crap. For crying out loud, even my grandma is rocking an iPhone. It sucks that Apple is changing the way we communicate because of their well established campaign! (For the older crowd to get in the action too) lol... So yea my story simply is justifying that being a long term 4+ years user of a iPhone product. I'm here to say I'm done from their marketing scheme. Everybody has problems with Apps and their phones. But if you know how to run them correctly and are tech like you will not have a issue with any software or build. But what Apple is bringing to the table with these iPhones upgrades does not compare to what HTC EVO or any Android device done so far and will continue to do so. I suggest to see it for your self. But I am also saying, you will not be in for surprise. Except for two important updates they made to Two Apps. (youtube & facebook) Like I said, there is a reason why these two main apps on Android runs like shyt and on the iPhone they run great ever since like a month ago. (its all a scam, Apple are Gangsters with Suites On) Apple paid a big lump to Facebook & YouTube to recreate/renew their Application faster. For the purpose of being First in line. Mark Zuckerberg gave him self away by announcing on Facebook "how great the new update on the iPhone is recreated by his team" Trust me it should not take Android a million years to create "renew" these two Apps. But for some reason they are. Main reason should be: THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT. That being said, I think the main two Apps you will enjoy more on the iPhone will be Facebook, & YouTube. Dam I wrote a lot..Or should I say, Ranting.
So in conclusion:
You have a look of a man who excepts what he sees, because he's excepting to wake up. Ironically this is not far from the truth. Let me tell you why you are here. You are here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire time with Android. That there is something wrong with the world of smart phones. You don't know what it is but its there like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has broughten you to me.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
(Joe answers): The iPhone....
(Me): Do you want to know what it is?
(Joe nods curiously)
The iPhone is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now in this very Thread! You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television, you can feel it when you go to work. When you go to Church! When you pay your taxes....It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to Blind you from the truth.
(Joe replys) What truth?
That you are a slave Joe. Like everyone else you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell, taste or touch. A prison for your mind!
Unfortunatly no one can't be told what the iPhone is. You have to see it for your self. (places pills on table)
This is your last chance Joe. After this there is no turning back. You TAKE THE BLUE PILL THE STORY ENDS, YOU WAKE UP IN YOUR BED AND CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR HTC EVO. You take the RED pill, you stay in wonder land AND I show you HOW DEEP THE RABBIT HOLE GOES.
(moments passes, with spooky music playing in the background)
Remember, all I'm offering is the Truth. Nothing more.
Sent from my EVO in The Matrix!
There is nothing wrong with your iPhone. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your iPhone. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits
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LoL...
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I believe he took the blue pill.
sent from my Evo the awaken Eye. with your moms permission.!
joebarkho said:
I've had Android since the HTC hero on sprint, moved to the Evo Shift, got the nexus S, and now the new evo.
This phone is incredible, but I'm just bored as hell. Does anyone else get really bored with their phone?
I'm thinking of selling this and buying an iPhone, only because it finally somewhat caught up to android and it's just different.
How much do you think I should sell this phone for? Also, if I did want an android after the iphone, the iPhone has amazing resale value and thats just attractive as well.
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I'm the same way. As I write this I have 2 original evo's, a Thunderbolt, a Fascinate, 2 MiFi's, a Nexus 7 and the new iPad sitting around me. I do some phone flashing so thats why I have a couple of the phones but they are all mine...oh yea and my EVO LTE. I get bored easily too. I'm getting an iPhone 4 Friday because I'm getting a great deal on it and just want something else to play with. I'm thinking about getting a 5 if I can do a little trading for one. I ported my number to Google Voice when they started offering it so I could switch carriers with easy. Bottom line...I'm a Tech junkie just like you. I need my next fix!!!!
U know, when apple was coming up they had that commercial during the superbowl where people were being brainwashed in q black and white theatre. Then "Apple Zeus" or who ever it was smashed thru the screen and made everything color. Revolt and Revolution was rampant of course.
It's funny how sides have changed. Apple is now the establishment trying to brainwash everyone. Android is the new Apple as far as ingenuity is concerned.
Matter of fact, android doesn't even need Apple. Phone manufacturer's compete well enough on android to spurn innovation.
i mean android did completely change initially before the g1 when the iphone came out, It was going to be a blackberry style phone.
Apple did a great job introducing something new in the world, but android constantly changes.
The first iphone looks like the 6th one.
the G1 looks nothing like the Gnex. Android changes so much and keeps getting better and more unique with time.
I have been on iOS since the 3G was released. On Thursday I got the GNII and today I flashed Bean's ROM. Awesome!!! holy crap Batman, this is a geek's wet dream right here.
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Welcome to the party!
Lol, you'll never go back.....
Congratulations on your purchase (and new found freedom!) -- I'm sure you'll enjoy your Note II.
Another convert! Awesome! :highfive:
My sister has the 16GB iPhone 4S and now she hates the iPhone lol She takes a ton of photos and eventually ran out of storage. Android Does what iPhone can't.
Android FTW!
My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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Welcome, you'll never want to go back to a 4inch phone again.
Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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The only iDevice I do like is the iPad. It was simply just done right. Simple and fun with a great app ecosystem, and Web browsing. That's all I really care about for a tablet (though I have the N7 and getting the N10).
The iPhone simply is too small and doesn't have enough of what I want/need. And Mac's, if you're coming from Windows, you have to find all these different work around to do stuff that's easy on Windows. Especially when it comes to rooting all my Android stuff.
Anyways, congrats on the upgrade and welcome to the family!
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My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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I know what ya mean. My mom is 62 and she has the iPad 3, iPod mini 4th gen, iPad mini and a Mac Mini (she's a bit of an apple nut). I've gone through a ton of phones (as you know Josh) over the past year and every Android phone I've had she's been blown away BUT... with the Note 2 she is floored and loves the size and s pen. I've bought her android devices in the past to try and get her to convert. Problem is I was trying to early. I got her the HTC Evo View (honeycomb) and the 5" galaxy tab (gingerbread).... so you can imagine how those experiences were for her. To this day she says android is to confusing and buggy. I think her opinion has changed playing with my note.
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Congrats! The Note II is simply awesome, I love mine!
I still love OS X for my desktop OS though. I feel like it is the reverse of the phone world. Windows is like the iPhone (everyone just gets it without thinking) and OS X was for people who wanted a bit more, and its slowly catching up to Windows.
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My neighbors are an older couple. They're fairly tech saavy for their age but they're die hard Apple fans....Macs, iPods, iPhones, iPads, the works. I always give them hell and show off my new Android. Last week I showed them my GN2 and the wife actually said "that will be my next phone". She's got a few more months until her contact expires but she's fed up with little screens. Once I get her over, I'll see what I can do about replacing some other iCrap.
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Exactly. Part of the reason for my switch was bordom. I knew everything about iOS. No challenge. The geek factor was gone. I had dreams of flashing ROM's
I feel the fact I appreciate Android now makes me very "well rounded". iOS and Android have their places. My mom, she has an iPhone and iPad. She jumped right in, figured the basics out, and is very happy. I can't imagine handing her my GNII and having her manage it.
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Eh I can see why people hate iOS products but I really don't. I have an iPad and a Macbook Pro and I love them both. I also loved my iPhone 4 and 4S. I like iOS and I like how the iPhone 5 looks but I prefer Android. I eventually get bored with iOS and need a bigger screen so I go back to android. iOS is like that temptation you go out n seek for a few months but then always come back home to good old reliable n loyal Android
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iOS and Android have their places. My mom, she has an iPhone and iPad. She jumped right in, figured the basics out, and is very happy. I can't imagine handing her my GNII and having her manage it.
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Also just switched from years and years with iOS. For me the great irony was that when we met my technologically-challenged wife had an Android phone and I had an iPhone 4...now she has a 4S and I just got the Note 2. Her almost daily frustration with her old phone (Droid of some sort) made the choice easy when her upgrade time came...my tinkering nature combined with the size and smoothness of the N2 made my choice easy. She just shakes her head when I start yammering on about having just rooted it, or how I'm customizing the latest launcher I'm playing with...but we're both much happier.
IOS most definitely has its place.
One of my best friends for years is a major factory rep for a bunch of electronic lines and is tech savvy.
He lives in a 3 million dollar house on CapeCod and has an awful lot more money than I do......
This guy could have any phone/OS etc that he wants for free but he uses an iphone. I asked him why once and he is one of those guys who says "i just want it to work, I could care less about any customization etc."
I looked at his iphone and he never even bothered to change the wallpaper and he absolutely loves the thing.
Oh ya, head shaking and blank stares when I start talkign about the excitement of the unlock process and loading a new rom. I love it.
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Also just switched from years and years with iOS. For me the great irony was that when we met my technologically-challenged wife had an Android phone and I had an iPhone 4...now she has a 4S and I just got the Note 2. Her almost daily frustration with her old phone (Droid of some sort) made the choice easy when her upgrade time came...my tinkering nature combined with the size and smoothness of the N2 made my choice easy. She just shakes her head when I start yammering on about having just rooted it, or how I'm customizing the latest launcher I'm playing with...but we're both much happier.
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Exactly. It's hard to touch iOS from a "just pick it up and start using it" standpoint. I get a bit annoyed when people are so one sided they trash talk either Android or iOS. We are very fortunate to have 2 excellent choices (ok, 3 if you count Win8, which isn't too bad either)
But for me Android didn't become a player until ICS/JB. I started getting really curious in June of last year, then when I watched the Google IO keynote I was like 'Damn, project butter rocks".
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IOS most definitely has its place.
One of my best friends for years is a major factory rep for a bunch of electronic lines and is tech savvy.
He lives in a 3 million dollar house on CapeCod and has an awful lot more money than I do......
This guy could have any phone/OS etc that he wants for free but he uses an iphone. I asked him why once and he is one of those guys who says "i just want it to work, I could care less about any customization etc."
I looked at his iphone and he never even bothered to change the wallpaper and he absolutely loves the thing.
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Seems like people start with one or the other and stay with it. They really only change to the other if:
Android to IOS
- Friend got an iPhone
- My really old phone is still on GB
- My really old phone is buggy and/slow
- I can't figure this thing out
IOS to Android
- I'm bored. Why can't I customize
- No Flash Player??? WTF
- When will I get JB for IOS 6?
- Apple Maps don't know where I am (it's really not that bad lol)
- I want NFC, big screens, expandable memory, changeable battery, ect!!!
- That's neat, can I flash Roms on my iPhone?
- This is getting expensive
- Wait, I can get free apps without jailbreaking??
There's probably more for each list lol.
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Seems like people start with one or the other and stay with it. They really only change to the other if:
Well, there are a million different reasons. So... this was dumb.
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Exactly. It's hard to touch iOS from a "just pick it up and start using it" standpoint. I get a bit annoyed when people are so one sided they trash talk either Android or iOS. ".
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So do I.
I coach my 12 year daughters soccer team and one of the Moms from the team was talking about upgrading her old droid phone (I'm not even sure which one she had) to an iphone. She told me her phone was very slow/laggy and buggy and she just wanted something simple that worked.
I had a spare ROMed and tweaked Rezound that I was not using and I offered it to her for free. She turned me down flat saying "I never want to see another android phone at this point" and two weeks ago she used an upgrade to buy an iphone 5.
I was talking to her last night and asked how she liked her new phone. She said "this is what I should have bought in the first place"
I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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HTC Droid DNA has been a VERY solid phone for me. I'd choose DNA over iPhone 5 any day.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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do you like customization? do you like a full 1080p high Def screen? do you like a quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram?
the phones you had, well, sucked. they were very low end android phones. the Lucid is terrible lol we used to sell that.. made me a huge profit but I hated selling it. the xperia was meh. the dna is a premium high end device.
people with iPhones "don't have issues" because you can't do everything on them you can on an Android. for example, people don't complain about errors or force closing on iPhones because when an app force closes, they don't tell you it's performed an error. it just backs out to the home screen, ans doesn't tell you why. most people think "oh just a small glitch, I'll uninstall and reinstall the app..." and then it's fixed.
believe me, when I worked at Verizon, I saw more idiots with iPhones with problems than I thought could possibly exist. I couldn't believe that many people didn't even know how to use an iPhone. good god.
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No one can really decide for you, but my friend got the iPhone 5 coming from a droid razr and then I got my dna and let him use it and he wished that he stayed with android. What are you looking to do on your phone. The droid dna can do just about everything. Where as the iPhone 5 doesn't have some features the dna has. The specs aren't really even comparable in my opinion, the dna beats all of the iPhone.
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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The great thing about android is if you want a different look then you change it to what you want. There are very few reported issues as far as software go with android is concerned since the era of jellybean. Android biggest issue is the different hardware that is has to be optimized for. Dna stock is really refined but I for one like to change things up at min once a week. We can't tell you what to chose but if choice is an issue then android is your best bet because you can make it perform like any phone you want.
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
I had a difficult time making that decision as well when I had upgraded a month ago (from a thunderbolt), although the whole integration thing was appealing with the iphone (have an ipad already, plus other family members have iphones), I had decided to go with the dna instead because of the ability to tinker with it and such, enjoy doing that sort of stuff
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
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The thing is though.... you can do that all on the DNA. I would say the DNA on stock is a very stable capable phone and Sense imho looks brilliant over iOS.
I agree though, most apps do come out on the iPhone first due to the platform being more stable and easier to dev for in the beginning.... We'll probably see that change over the course of time with JB and onward though.
I agree with everything said here. It was really a tough for me to decide especially since I use Mac computers, iPad, Apple TV, Time Capsule, etc.. but on android you can flash stuff and try different things if you want too. Its nice having that ability. When I had the iPhone I found myself a little board. I didn't have anything to develop, and everything I had learned to do on android seem to be going to waste.
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If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen
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But then your thumb can't reach all corners of the phone's screen!!
It amazes me when people mention that in reviews of devices, especially when it's a 5 ft guy reviewing it [usually small hands to begin with]. It's neither a pro nor con that's worth mentioning imo
Sarcasm aside, it would be interesting to see Apple come out with a 4+ in screen especially after watching some of their advertisements and events.
All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
My personal opinion is that you should def. get the DNA. In general, if you're going to choose a low grade Android or an iPhone I would recommend the iPhone. I would; however, recommend that a person spend a little bit of money and get a high end Android phone every time. It is well worth the $100-$150 to for a 2 year investment. If it makes you feel better break it down by month. If you do that's about $6.25/month for a completely awesome phone.
I think im sold to the DNA.. about 20 days and I can own one!
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I agree with this. Both devices are capable of doing whatever you need. However, you are limited to what you can do with and without jailbreak on iOS. For example, I didn't like the HTC sense look but don't have root yet so I installed nova launcher... You can't do that on iOS. Don't like lock screen? You can change without root on Android. So on... But at the same time I would keep stock on iOS cause the other stuff doesn't look good in my opinion. (i like stock. That's why I want root for cm 10.1). Ask yourself what you are looking for and ask yourself if you are bored of iOS or bored of Android?
I recommend the DNA because I like the hardware and android, but don't let me pick for you. ^_^ (keep in mind there isn't a root for the DNA right now if you have ota so if it's not out by when you get it, you'll have to pay for jtag or use sense )
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
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She says the apps that force close are "known issues" and listed in the apps reviews.
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What I love about android is that I can change anything I want. If I want to I can:
change the lock screen
add widgets
change launcher
change icons
remove unwanted applications
save email attachments
change file associants (make chrome your default web browser)
ringtone trimmer set any mp3 as a ringer
set any image as a wallpaper
much, much, more..
thats the stuff that sells me.
DNA is awesome fast Quad-core CPU, Adreno 320 GPU, 1080P Display, NFC, Wireless Charging. . . 2GB RAM. Its awesome.
If he wants to tinker with it he will have to wait until the new firmware is unlockable, or he can jtag it.