ok I am a little confuse...the Evo 3D came out last week and its able to run netflix(friend is running it right now as we speak). So why the thunderbolt that been out for nearly four months still cannot run netflix officially?
The 3D isn't an official device either yet. They still have to side load the .apk.
basically it's not about "being able to run it" it's getting the digital rights of the netflix media locked down to satisfy the studios.
Netflix is running great on my BAMF GingerREMIX 2.1 Thunderbolt.
If I want to run Netflix on a tiny screen, my iPod Touch is still hanging in there.
Still don't see the mass appeal to run Netflix on anything smaller than at least a tablet. Not worth it really. I'd like to have it for rare occasions where it would be nice but w/e really.
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The 3D isn't an official device either yet. They still have to side load the .apk.
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It may not be but you can load the apk and play it without rooting etc. Ok cool that some people don't care about running netflix on "a tiny screen" but I do and I just don't understand why I am not able to use it
Theres a simple answer. Because its not in the software that shipped with the thunderbolt. The Evo 3D shipped with the necessary DRM files for it to work, but the thunderbolt did not. These file's are in the gingerbread roms though that are working on rooted thunderbolts so i believe it will come to the unrooted folks with gingerbread.
Another great reason to root.
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Another great reason to root.
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I might have to take the dive..but I am a virgin when it comes to rooting
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Theres a simple answer. Because its not in the software that shipped with the thunderbolt. The Evo 3D shipped with the necessary DRM files for it to work, but the thunderbolt did not. These file's are in the gingerbread roms though that are working on rooted thunderbolts so i believe it will come to the unrooted folks with gingerbread.
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For the last time...it's not DRM causing the problem. It's due code missing in the stagefright media libraries. Please read the Netflix threads in the development forum and application forum before spreading more false information to people (who will in turn also spread that false info).
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For the last time...it's not DRM causing the problem. It's due code missing in the stagefright media libraries. Please read the Netflix threads in the development forum and application forum before spreading more false information to people (who will in turn also spread that false info).
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So do u think the TB will get it? Also my friend is running it on his EVO 3D without rooting it...its not in the market but he found the apk and its running find without doing anything
mbrown3460 said:
So do u think the TB will get it? Also my friend is running it on his EVO 3D without rooting it...its not in the market but he found the apk and its running find without doing anything
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Probably will with gingerbread, assuming they fix the libraries or make their current apk work around it. If not, everyone that rooted already has it on gingerbread just from flashing the needed libraries into it. Can't say for sure for those without root. I dont think anyone knows aside from netflix for sure. I know at least the HTC Inspire which is mostly just a GSMv3 version of our phone has to flash the library fix as well. It came out about a few weeks before our phone as well.
Not sure if you did not root or you just didnt notice that netflix worked on Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt yet, but it's already possible if you're willing to ignore the rules some
As for hulu+ it's just a check, but I havent had time to try to remove it and I need someone else to test it. I loiter on IRC so if you want hulu+ and see me on there, feel free to ask.
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Probably will with gingerbread, assuming they fix the libraries or make their current apk work around it. If not, everyone that rooted already has it on gingerbread just from flashing the needed libraries into it. Can't say for sure for those without root. I dont think anyone knows aside from netflix for sure. I know at least the HTC Inspire which is mostly just a GSMv3 version of our phone has to flash the library fix as well. It came out about a few weeks before our phone as well.
Not sure if you did not root or you just didnt notice that netflix worked on Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt yet, but it's already possible if you're willing to ignore the rules some
As for hulu+ it's just a check, but I havent had time to try to remove it and I need someone else to test it. I loiter on IRC so if you want hulu+ and see me on there, feel free to ask.
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Thanks for the info! Need to stop being a punk and learn how to root my phone....don't really have time wit my hectic schedule
mbrown3460 said:
Thanks for the info! Need to stop being a punk and learn how to root my phone....don't really have time wit my hectic schedule
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same here. I work too much, and would rather spend time doing other things (like sleeping) than rooting. It's my plan to root eventually, but i just haven't justified the time to learn it yet.
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Probably will with gingerbread, assuming they fix the libraries or make their current apk work around it. If not, everyone that rooted already has it on gingerbread just from flashing the needed libraries into it. Can't say for sure for those without root. I dont think anyone knows aside from netflix for sure. I know at least the HTC Inspire which is mostly just a GSMv3 version of our phone has to flash the library fix as well. It came out about a few weeks before our phone as well.
Not sure if you did not root or you just didnt notice that netflix worked on Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt yet, but it's already possible if you're willing to ignore the rules some
As for hulu+ it's just a check, but I havent had time to try to remove it and I need someone else to test it. I loiter on IRC so if you want hulu+ and see me on there, feel free to ask.
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So is there a version of the library fix for the rooted MR1 ROM yet, or is it still being worked on?
As of right now, I believe its still being worked on.
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Just felt like mentioning the newest Netflix (backed up from my Droid with TiBu) works perfectly fine on CM7 RC1.1 without the lib fix. I had to apply the fix on RC0.6 but seemed to work fine to begin with on RC1.1. I'm not sure if something with stagefright changed in that time but nice that it works.
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Ok, I was thinking about maybe using that one click root app I found on the market but i need to know how safe is it? and is there a fully awesomely working version of Froyo out there or even gingerbread I can use and if so how do I install it?
And when the official froyo update comes out will my phone still be able to revive the over the air update?
Using the OCLF/Root was completely safe and easy, for me at least.
No issues at all doing it, it went very smooth with no issues at all.
Yes -- you can still receive OTA updates once you've rooted.
Ian
def no gingerbread out there for you to run
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
Safe as in what? Secure wise or bricking your device? The Vibrant is easy to root but secure wise you need to be careful since your device will be "open" to any program getting root access.
I see people use the click app to root their phones. Check it out on YouTube that's where I found the info. Personally I am not going to root my cuz I don't want to deal with the headaches. Yes I have root one android phone before & was successful. I enjoy putting different roms but when I flash CM6 one his first updates on that then later on couldn't change the rom. The reason cuz I had a low memory I was told on the phone internally. So I am taking no chances with phone.
vamp6x6x6x said:
yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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So are you admitting you like sausage lol
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vamp6x6x6x said:
lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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Too much work. Easier to add ps.
I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!
Before Rooting....
1) learn how to use the keyboard
2) find out what Froyo and the consequences of installing a beta are
3) No, if you install Froyo probably you won't be able to get the OTA update when available and, you may not be able to roll down if you want to.
I would stay out of it if i was you
not worthy to just root to flash the leaked Froyo... You only get the 'skin' of Froyo.. there is no JIT and GPS is not working
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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I understand what your saying, and believe me I know a lot about android and actually a little bit about rooting but I am super paranoid about bricking my phone for two reasons:
I love my phone.
I had to pay full price for it.
What I don't understand that much is about different roms and whatnot. As for the Gingerbread thing I was kidding, but I was serious about the Froyo thing...but after reading this thread i have decided that if I do ever root with the one click root app it will only me to install simple things like lag fix, adfree, etc. Thank you for your help.
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Or you can revert to a backup.
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To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Simple unroot your phone
nomadrider123 said:
Simple unroot your phone
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you know the one-click root that comes with the one-click lag fix? The unroot part didn't work.
This was my experience hacking on the g1 too... sometimes things worked, sometimes they didn't. When they don't, it's a lousy trip.
I just get sick of messing with it sometimes, and just want it to work.
is it possible to port the captivate froyo leak to our phones? or do we still need a kernel for froyo from sammy?
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is it possible to port the captivate froyo leak to our phones? or do we still need a kernel for froyo from sammy?
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There was a posted working ROM in the IRC last night.
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There was a posted working ROM in the IRC last night.
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Lol, how working?
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i was wonderin the same, is there a link anyone here?
I don't know he said he fixed the accelerometer
http://github.com/jt1134/android_ve...053be601b619ad27de6fe120100d5de6705c9b#diff-0
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I don't know he said he fixed the accelerometer
http://github.com/jt1134/android_ve...053be601b619ad27de6fe120100d5de6705c9b#diff-0
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Kernel, not ROM.
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Kernel, not ROM.
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haha yea i figured reading that commit, lol guessing the froyo is a no-go as of right now
Link file says Kernel
lets hope they can get a rom made using this soon
looks like there is a kernel made
Woohoo! C'mon Froyo!
Trying to build a kernel with the new defconfig now. Will report back momentarily.
I don't know how many times this has to be brought up guys, but we wont have froyo till we have kernel source for 2.6.32. The kernel source we have working right now is 2.6.29
Just calm down and be patient, or get to work and start developing. There is only so much devs can do, and if you want a feature or something, try doing it and learn. We don't need new forums posted everyday about how you want froyo, or tv out, or ios.
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I don't know how many times this has to be brought up guys, but we wont have froyo till we have kernel source for 2.6.32. The kernel source we have working right now is 2.6.29
Just calm down and be patient, or get to work and start developing. There is only so much devs can do, and if you want a feature or something, try doing it and learn. We don't need new forums posted everyday about how you want froyo, or tv out, or ios.
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TBH, I'm equally sick reading these posts. Guess what, you can say that till you're blue in the face and people will still act in ways you don't want, it's called being being excited/impatient. You kind sir/madam could save yourself some bandwidth (and apparently annoyance/frustration) by just not licking on these links.
*edit* Also, it's great to see another New Mexican on the boards *edit*
Yeah...no licking links!!!
I don't know how many times this has to be brought up guys, but we wont have froyo till we have kernel source for 2.6.32. The kernel source we have working right now is 2.6.29
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New to this myself. Fascinate is my first smartphone. So I gather we are likely waiting for the 2.2 release from Samsung for the Fascinate? Then someone will likely take the src and remove the bloatware etc?
Is the Cyanomodgen version also waiting on this?
Main thing I want is tether and all the bloatware removed from my phone. I have not rooted and am waiting for a good reason to do so. Don't want to root then have to undo it down road or something to get some other update and risk something going wrong. Thinking of waiting for the GPS fixes to get out etc first. Really want the Cyanomod ROM for this phone.
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Main thing I want is tether and all the bloatware removed from my phone. I have not rooted and am waiting for a good reason to do so. Don't want to root then have to undo it down road or something to get some other update and risk something going wrong. Thinking of waiting for the GPS fixes to get out etc first. Really want the Cyanomod ROM for this phone.
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The root process is easy and shouldn't affect any updates. Removing certain apps could possibly affect any OTA updates - this has happened on some Motorola phones.
Rooting will allow Wireless Tether and the ability to remove bloatware. Make it easy on yourself and just MOVE apps you don't want from /system/app to your SD card so you can easily put them back when it's time to receive OTA updates.
The root process is easy and shouldn't affect any updates. Removing certain apps could possibly affect any OTA updates - this has happened on some Motorola phones.
Rooting will allow Wireless Tether and the ability to remove bloatware. Make it easy on yourself and just MOVE apps you don't want from /system/app to your SD card so you can easily put them back when it's time to receive OTA updates.
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Thanks for the quick answer. Will this remove bing as well?
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Thanks for the quick answer. Will this remove bing as well?
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no
edit: message has to be at least 10 characters. darn.
matthewsh said:
Thanks for the quick answer. Will this remove bing as well?
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no
edit: message has to be at least 10 characters. darn.
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Actually, we have no idea it it removes Bing or not.
Most likely it won't, but stranger things have happened, like Bing as the primary search for an Android phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
That can probably be done with this phone since it uses the same chipset as the E3D and Sensation. Once I get mine next tuesday/wednesday ill see what I can do about getting this module to work.
If anyone takes a look at it, post anything you have tried. This could in theory at the very least allow an undervolt which would help offset the LTE power sucking.
Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Yeah I.hear ya. I.haven't gotten much Involved myself buy then again I'm no dev LOL. But I k.ow my way around a bit. But I think the dev section is gonna he hoppin as well.
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
I am personally more interested in the possibility of underclocking and undervolting than OCing. Or maybe OCing and undervolting like I did with my droid x - can really help save some battery and allow the phone to sip less juice. This phone is so new I am getting ahead of myself, but hopefully in time we can get root/roms/OCing and undervolting apps to work on the Rezound.
I normally run my battery on performance mode on all my phones. I set it to normal, and with the equivalent usage I get 1/3 better battery life. I even leave all my antenna's on(except WiFi when I am away).
Just to let everyone know what I tried. I took the file for "unsupported phones" from the link's thread and changed the version number to match the rezound, which is -- 2.6.35.13-g20c5d1d -- . As you can see it was not just the ending part starting with the 'g' that needed to be changed as ours is 2.6.35.13 and the file was made for 2.6.35.10. But since a reboot resets everything I tried it by changing only the part starting with 'g' and it failed saying "Exec format error". So I then changed the entire version string to match ours and adb actually completed the task but the phone rebooted immediately and everything was wiped out again.
I did this before the kernel source was put up on the forums but since I dont have ANY knowledge of messing with kernels I am no help there, but hopefully this can help someone get this mod going for the Rezound.
we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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Yeah I rememba that man. I was just talking about that the other day. I also mentioned that maybe we can use that somehow but I wouldn't know where TP start. But we need a stable Temp Root first I think. Not degrading anyone's work either.
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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It will take me a little time to find. I don't think I have the script on sd anymore and the thread is buried deep. I shall go look.
Edit: ironically easier than I thought to find. Here is the thread from the 3D forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
And I know for a fact this worked and worked well. I used for a while, well up until we were s-off..
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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Cool. I did find a tidbit that might (don't get your hopes up and basically pretend I didn't even say this) make root last longer. Obviously until I have my rezound for the next few days I can't even think about testing anything.
Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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I will once I get around to writing it. I am in class right now then I am driving 5 hours home. So maybe tomorrow afternoon Ill get a script working. Also, I may have figured out a way to disable elements of sense in an automated script(for those that don't like sense).
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
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Since I happened to venture to theses parts since our buddy plat ventured to this. I am a bit surprised to see you switched. How ever the module you are talking about in the op I am pretty sure you can't just hex edit the kernel version. As the kernel will be different for the device compared to that of the evo 3d. If it is anything like doing the g2 version for the htc merge that is. Where it had to be recompiled to work correctly.
I am sure one of the dev's familiar in here with building source code could get it done up. If it works after that I am unsure. Though con you ported the sense hd rom from the inc to the desire. That was the only one that you had ported. Followed by you followed samuel2706's guide and other info he gave you. Then you came to me to ask how I fixed the mms and verizon branding in the rom. In which I told you how to fix it but you put it off as you fixed it. As you are putting off in here.
I'm on the fence here guys and need some either reassurance or confirmation of my fears/concerns.
Let me start by saying i'm borderline pissed off that I pay for a Sprint contract and yet VM is getting ICS possibly far before Sprints EVO 3d...This is a large driving force behind wanting to root.
So anyways here are my concerns..
-It's a VM build...does this cause adverse affects?? Lower priority?? ETC??
-I Roam most of the time and use a custom PRL. Is this possible with the ICS ROMS??
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS. I'm not including app incompatibility here...more or less saying everything working that would work if we had an official ICS release.
Additional questions..not really concerns..
-Is there any roms currently with Sense 4.0 that are fully functional as This would be nice considering we'll never see it officially.
-Can I get better performance??
Lastly, If I do decide to root where do I start...I see tutorials but they say from hboot such and such etc..however I have no idea what I have on my phone to know what tutorial to use...I just got it 2 months ago, and i've fully OTA updated it. I came from an optimus v to sprint evo 3d...I had my optimus rooted and had custom roms on it.
I say Root, but I always root my phones.
You need to find out what hboot you are on, take back cover off, remove battery, put battery back in, cover back on, then hold power and down volume rocker. You will get to a white screen and it will tell you which hboot you have. Since you say you have OTA updated, you are likely on 1.5.
You should go through the downgrade process to get you on 1.4 which will allow full s-off and be the simplest route for flashing firmware/ROM's.
I have been using the VM ICS leaks since they came out and the Dev's did their
thing on them and I haven't had anything not work. I am using MeanROM ICS and Mike keeps it updated pretty regularly.
Whatever you do, do not install the VM firmware file you may see posted. It is unnecessary and will likely cause issues.
There are no ROM's that have fully working Sense 4.0 + ICS + all other items(3D Wimax).
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-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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I do recommend you root. The custom roms beat the snot out of the stock.
As long as you use a Sense based ics Rom, everything works. I take 3d pics and video and just watched a 3d YouTube video just to check.
While they are not yet as refined as the Gb roms, everything works.
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Two biggest benefits of rooting regardless of the phone:
1) Full system backups in recovery.
2) The ability to remove all carrier crapware.
Now, there are several other benefits, such as upgrading to more updated ROMs that will eventually not be available for this phone (it will never officially receive Android 5.0 or Sense 4.0).
As for fully functional, I'm running the Booster Shot port with Sense 3.6. Silky smooth and fully functional, including 3D.
If you choose to root, fully read and understand the process so you don't brick your phone. Get your HBOOT versions (mentioned in a previous post in this thread) and root accordingly.
Definitely boost in performance even if you don't go with ICS. I compared my rooted 3d with my roomates 3d and my 3d runs so much faster it seems like it isn't even the same phone.
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I would recommend root, since you have a lot of options to choose different ROMs.
No Sense 4.0 ROM is working correctly. There are issues with 3d and with call drops, what is more important I think Anyway, most ROMs using Sense 3.6 run ok.
I also have the benefit of having daily contact with my rooted evo vs my girlfriends not rooted evo... Mine phone is way faster at everything.... Even before I went to meanrom ics....
The difference is night vs day...
If you really want to see the performance of your phone, the way it should be most definetly Root it.
I haven't done it myself but I'm 100% positive google will find you a list of benefits from obtaining root...
And btw even tho its a little weird and in beta my favorite thing about ics is google chrome... It's just an awesome phone browser, just what stands out in my mind atm.. ask me tomorrow and ill prolly say something different.
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If your on the fence, don't do it. If your going to commit to modding your phone, you have to know 100% what you're up against. For most, that's bricking your phone in a certain way so you can downgrade it. Than getting the hboot down through a tool in a LINUX distro. Than going through ruu than using revolutionary. And lastly flashing a recovery. It's not difficult
As long as you know what you are up against.
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My two cents:
Root it.
Backup your stock system, flash an ICS rom. If you don't like it, simply restore back to the original setting. You can still add tweaks and goodies not available to the non-rooted.
The beauty of being rooted is it's yours, totally yours, too make how you want it.
Root, root, root!
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another vote for root.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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exactly...every sense based rom is fully functional with 3d also...this is a one way street to root....root...backup your rom...flash...any chance you don't like you can always return to your previous state...unrooted...since there are no drawbacks except the fact that you have to setup all over again at a new rom, can't see a reason not to....with these guys here after all it's child play to root and to reverse it so no worries...
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm only on sprint roms.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still debating this though mainly because i'm wondering if there would be benifit to waiting till the official spring ics comes and then letting devs release some roms based on that one instead of the virgin mobile one.
I'm thinking then we could flash the sprint firmware and possibly that updated firmware would be a plus, to performance.
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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No performance hit as far as I can tell. With the custom roms, my performance has vastly improved.
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Ok, so I just checked and I'm on hboot 1.5. Fully stock, fully updated as stated. Can someone point me to the threads and steps I need to take to do this?
Edit: I'm only asking for verification on steps/threads to use as I do not want to mess up and use an outdated tutorial or something and f up my phone. I just want to take every precaution to ensure I do not end up with a brick, and I follow the exact steps Needed for my situation. Not trying to make anyone angry that I'm asking for something I could search for...I just trust you guys to point me to where i need to be more than i do myself searching the correct tutorial for my situation.
Also when on the optimus v i used clockwork mod recovery...I'm assuming this isn't the recovery to use for this phone? And also this five minute wait to edit my post is frustrationg >< lol.
All you need to do is go into the development threads and read. I'm 59 years old for Christ sake, and figured out how to root my phone by reading the first few "stickied" posts. Took all of 15 minutes to get hboot 1.5 removed and hboot 1.4 with s-off installed.
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Well yeah, Not to flame you but the amount of time you've been thinking about doing it and getting advise if you should or not, I would think you'd be doing some reading on how to do it.
If you get stuck, there's plenty of people to help you out.
Just make sure you know enough first so you are confident in doing it.
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
Yes you can. You can even dl and flash ripped ota's. As a cheap backup this phone is great.
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I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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If you follow directions to a t, you won't have to worry about your phone not working. Just give yourself an hour or two and you got it.
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They have a point. Follow all the directions word for word. I have got in a hurry and forgot some steps in very crutial times and still have managed to get back to stock. Still no problems. And an hour or two, maybe less, is all it will take. If you need and advice on where to start or what you want to do, use the search. Still can't find it, just ask. Plenty of people here to lend a hand.
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Its good to be prepared. I like that. With this phone, however, Motorola supplies us with an "in case of emergency" option called an SBF file. If anything goes wrong, you just plug your phone into your computer, start the application and in about 5 to 10 minutes, you are back to square 1.
And about your note, which other site are you looking at? You can pretty much get everything you need for this phone in these forums. ROMs are not universal and you have to use stuff specifically made for this phone. So unless the other site was Droid X2 specific, it wont work.
Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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The only problem that some have had with zerg is that it can delete some files to make space and has caused issues with flashing the newest eclipse...I haven't been on the newest eclipse so I personally have not experienced that particular issue
But I have used it numerous times with good results
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this phone is almost impossible to hard brick, if you mess something up it takes maybe 10 minutes to run through an sbf and then your right back to stock. zergrush issue is only for the 2.3.5 versions of eclipse otherwise it works fine.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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2.3.5? As in Android 2.3.5? My phone is stock 2.3.5 now and I need 2.3.5 after this is over with (and eclipse is the rom I was targeting). There's an issue with the compass on this phone and 2.3.4 - E & W are swapped when in portrait mode, held vertically. That's a big deal for me as I use a lot of astronomy apps that rely on that E & W being accurate.
This is why I want to make sure this works on a phone I'm not relying on at the moment.
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If you are going to flash Eclipse you do not want to use Zerg. You will need to use Pete's one click root.
Check out eclipserom.com as it is the official site for Eclipse.
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GatorDad said:
I've been reading up on rooting and roming my DX2. I'm technically capable, but, stuff happens and I can't really afford for my phone to be down for a few days while I work out a problem.
So... I've been thinking about buying a used DX2 and use it as my testbed/spare phone. It wouldn't be activated, so I presume no OTA updates, but otherwise would that work? Can I do everything but OTA updates with a non-activated Droid X2 phone?
thanks in advance
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Get a Samsung Fascinate, there are plenty of ROM available, ICS runs smoooooth and you can do much more with it.
My Droid X2 hits around 3600 on CM7.2 my Fascinate hits 3300 before I tweak the kernel and overclock it... There is just more available for that device.
Either or, I would suggest staying within these forums, if you don't see it here it isn't available...
PS I swap in and out between phones, it's nice to have a spare
Good luck with everything.
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Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Yea, I read about that and I'm encouraged. I'd still feel better about it if it was happening on a device I didn't care about though.
I'd rather avoid any finger pointing - it was a popular droid x2 specific site. It stated that using the "zergRush" would not work due to some file sig issue or something like that. I don't exactly recall at the moment.
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its not direct conflict, zergrush works on 2.3.4 and 2.3.5/1.3.412
not 2.3.5/1.3.418 which there is no direct root method
bricking is very unlikely with the locked bootloader, and the leaked sbfs
if you are trying to flash eclipse and 2.3.5/1.3.418 don't use zerg use pete's root tools
if this is confusing blame moto
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GatorDad said:
Thanks, but I could care less about overclocking et al. While I'm a huge Samsung fan, I'm sticking with the DX2 for a while. I like it, and it's *rugged*. My son, a fireman, keeps his on him even when fighting fires. Have you seen how thick/heavy a fire suit is? You sweat your you-know-what off in one and you come out soaking wet - and everything else you had on you - phone included. He also has a 1 yr old who uses the DX2 as a toy. She chews on it, drops it, throws it and the damned thing still looks great and works perfectly.
Picked up the "spare" DX2 last night off ebay. I should be able to start playing early next week.
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Excellent, I will agree on the ruggedness of the X2. I have dropped mine from far above on ladders...and it keeps on ticking
So, forgive me but you want to root and install a ROM on the X2??
Root with Pete's if you are on 2.3.4 then install ota rootkeeper and protect your root...at that you can update via ota and still keep root, after the update completes you just run rootkeeper again to restore root.
Depending on which ROM you want will determine which version of Android you'll need...
Eclipse is the only ROM that requires 2.3.5...
so if you're at Android 2.3.5 I would install boot strap recovery and create a NANDroid backup...
After you create your NANDroid backup you would just flash your ROM, wipe data...etc
If you're at Android 2.3.4 you can do the same as above, just skip the update (don't install it)
If you are at 2.3.5 and you want to install a ROM that requires 2.3.4 you will have to use Rsd to SBF your phone to that version of Android. You can find easy tutorials on how to do that in General...they are stickied....
I stay with 2.3.4 because all the ROM I flash require that.
Just root with Pete's and you'll be fine either way....
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GatorDad said:
I appreciate the input folks. Really. However, as someone who develops linux kernel drivers for astronomy cameras and uses a linux laptop and some bash scripts (with 1wire devices) to control my beer brewing process - I know how easy it is to screw something up (and have many times in the past). I prefer to cover my arse before playing with something I *need* to having working. That, and I kinda like the idea of having a backup phone for when I drop mine in the toilet or something similarly stupid.
note: the step-by-step directions here are in direct conflict with another web sites step-by-step. Who is right? I'm going to gamble on this set, but just in case...
Thanks again everyone.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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Can you please link to the site which is in direct conflict? It would be helpful in determining who's right or why conflict exists.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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Ok, read that you are on 2.3.5 already...sooooo you will need to SBF to 2.3.4 to start root and so on...
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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It's just confusing now that we are using Pete's again...
There is no other site
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No, as I stated earlier - it was another droid x2 specific site.
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So when you receive your DroidX2 what are you going to do?
Surely there is an abundance of info abroad, but have you decided to just do it? Did you download Petes or Zergrush yet?
I hesitated at first, but bam I just did it. I had this whole thing worked in my head preparing to...what if... Then I just did it, exactly how others have stated. Root it, and don't look back, we are always here to help. Moon shadow has a couple guides here for rooting, sbf'ing, etc... If you're uncertain, just ask
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