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I am curious just how many people after hearing the reports that the GS2 woun't be available in the US or Canada until Sept/Oct are seriously considering a switch to another device or planning to use the delay to look for something better that won't have have hardware that is 6 months out of date due to a long delay from final production to retail.
With a 2 GHz chip from Samsung, the Tegra 3 and the iFail 5 all rumored for a September-January launch the GS2 is competing with some serious hardware that frankly it won't be on par with this winter for the NA market which is their largest market.
I feel like this is a complete failure on Samsung's part and they should be ensuring that the NA carriers aren't allowed to delay the launch of this device past May. I don't see how delaying this device until Q3 won't destroy their sales. Even if a large portion of their customers don't decided to just buy another device that has near equal or better specs and is available before Q3 I don't see how they will keep customers from waiting to the next generation of devices that will only be 1-2 months away. I know if I have to wait until Q3 and HTC or Motorola announces a Tegra 3 device with 10x the power of Atrix or 2X devices then then I can wait another month or two and get that instead of finally getting the GS2 knowing it is already outdated or will be in the next couple months at best.
Maybe if we get enough people here to make it clear to Samsung that they will most likely be buying a different device for one reason or another due to such a delayed release they will put some pressure on the carriers to not mess around with the device and just release it how it was meant to be and not delayed 6 months so they can load it up with bloat ware no one wanted to begin with.
I know I will be waiting a little longer before buying something else since I don't feel the Atrix or 2X are on the same level as the GS2 but with another 6 months of delays I can be pretty sure something will come along and knock the GS2 off it's pedestal and without a insane delay to their top market for delivering the device and when that day comes and it will Samsung will have officially lost another customer.
So what about everyone else, who feels if this release date is valid for the GS2 that they have lost a customer. Whether it be today or 6 months from now?
I feel slightly the same way, but if the rumors about late Q2/early Q3 are correct, we're looking at, more realistically, June-July.
The original Galaxy S wasn't released until around July-Sept for US carriers, but the European variants were also later, compared to the dates of the Galaxy S 2
Since GS Original was released in UK in June (instead of May for GS2) and the US version was September, it might make sense that we're looking at June-July (with an unfortunate possibility of August) for US.
I'm willing to wait that long, if they can keep from butchering the device for US carriers.
But the combination of lack of information, a much later release date, and the possibility of a neutered phone is definitely making me rethink my previous position, which was "wait for this damn phone at all costs".
I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and then if their is no offical date for the US then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really I wouldn't have any problem waiting a little longer if they would give us some news at least other than 1 rumor that it may be 6 months behind Europe and therefor 6 month outdated hardware.
But as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
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Yeah I'm starting to get a little fed up with the wait too... Sucks for you guys in the States that you might have to wait till after Canada (yeah that was a shocker that we might actually get tech before you guys lol). I wish that the carriers here and the carriers there would just shut the f**k up take it and just release it already without the bloat. Let the bloat be optional download content if people actually frakin' want it.
I see this slowly becoming a rage thread... I like it... I'm starting to get sick of Samsung ignoring my attempts to contact them just because they don't want to make an announcement yet. More companies need to realize that there is a "Power User" segment out there that wants quick access to new tech. They need to put better methods of getting this out to them as well. Even if it means Samsung goes old school and skips carriers and sells direct. Yeah it would mean checking with both Samsung and your carrier of choice to make sure the support is there, but if you consider yourself one of these "Power Users" you should be doing that anyways.
Will I keep waiting for this phone? Yeah probably because I've been waiting for it since the initial announcement that there was going to be a GS2 back in December... The next question would be is my patience growing thin? Let's just say one bad step on the ice and it just might break
Yeah, I can't really blame Samsung since they've taken good care of Europe as far as this phone's release is concerned. (I'm much happier others get to enjoy it soon, rather than everyone having to wait).
It's just the power of the carriers in the US that really screws over the customers. There isn't a single change that is made to any phone, of any company, by the carriers that is beneficial to anyone.
It's just so ridiculous that you have to wait longer than is necessary, so they can fill the phone with purely useless software and modifications that just get in the way of the design intended by Samsung. And it's all purely for profit for the carrier.
I guess that's Greed for you. Instead of all the extra data plans raking in cash monthly for the carriers, they go well beyond that and squeeze every ounce of phone real estate with what is essentially more annoying advertising.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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(Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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Not for long though.. Once AT&T takes over.. thats it!
xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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I have never used T-Mobile. I heard some good things about pricing and call quality and such so I checked them out and based on their map in my area I have 3G coverage along the highway, in the middle of town and no signal what so ever everywhere else. I have nothing against T-Mobile really other than their coverage sucks in my area and that is really the only thing i care about in a carrier... well that and giving me an OS update in a timely manner.
Yeah, we will probably have a much longer wait as the US carriers take their time and **** up the design of the phone like they all did on the first Galaxy go around.
Here comes 4 or 5 compromised versions of the new Galaxy SII all of them lacking something that the others have, but all of them filled to the flipping brim with crap ware that doesn't do God Damn thing but annoy the hell out of you. Asshole US carriers, everyone of them sucks.
Just give me the phone like it is designed, and don't attempt to dazzle me with your bull ****.
i agree with all the complaints i've read in this thread. i'd like to see a more solid release date for the US as well besides Q3. looking at the release dates, Q3 reads like August for the US at the earliest.
i'm thinking i'm going to wait until late May/mid June in hopes for a more solid release date. but if there isn't one by then, i will likely get an import for AT&T after making sure it's completely compatible with their network. at that point i'll be able to afford dropping $600-$700 for it unlocked.
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xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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I'm thinking about going this route. Did you have to do anything special to get the phone to work, or did you just throw in your ATT sim card?
Just add the ATT (or Straight talk) Sim and you're good.
For a change I actually can't complain in canada. Pickrd mine up on launch yesterday
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Quick question guys,
I just rang my local T-Mobile store to see what their pricing is going to be on the SGS2 and i was told they still have no idea... I have a contract with them that i'm using in my SGS2 i picked up from Phones 4 u last week. I wanted it sooner rather than later so i could get a good idea of the phones performance and still have the option to return within the 14 days if i wasn't happy or if T-Mobile can do me a better deal.
the guy on the phone said that he'd heard a lot of Phones 4 u's SGS2's have been returned due to issues with the device shutting down after a couple of days usage, becoming near inopperable... When i told him i'd had no such issues, he told me that it was because i'd only had mine since the 27th.... i told him that as far as i was aware it was only available from the 26th at the earliest...
Anyways, this seems like dirty tactics to me, has anyone else heard of such reports?? As far as my device is concerned its been flawless, and i'm certain that if this was happening we'd have heard of it on here, if not from bloggers and reviewers...
the phone call really p*ssed me off, almost to the point where i'm thinking of telling t-mobile to stick it and switching to the new Orange sim i have...
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Quick question guys,
I just rang my local T-Mobile store to see what their pricing is going to be on the SGS2 and i was told they still have no idea... I have a contract with them that i'm using in my SGS2 i picked up from Phones 4 u last week. I wanted it sooner rather than later so i could get a good idea of the phones performance and still have the option to return within the 14 days if i wasn't happy or if T-Mobile can do me a better deal.
the guy on the phone said that he'd heard a lot of Phones 4 u's SGS2's have been returned due to issues with the device shutting down after a couple of days usage, becoming near inopperable... When i told him i'd had no such issues, he told me that it was because i'd only had mine since the 27th.... i told him that as far as i was aware it was only available from the 26th at the earliest...
Anyways, this seems like dirty tactics to me, has anyone else heard of such reports?? As far as my device is concerned its been flawless, and i'm certain that if this was happening we'd have heard of it on here, if not from bloggers and reviewers...
the phone call really p*ssed me off, almost to the point where i'm thinking of telling t-mobile to stick it and switching to the new Orange sim i have...
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Sales tactics never cease to amaze me.
The majority of early adopters are on here, and there has not been a single report of malfunction
Jumping from t-mobile to orange, is like choosing between 6 and half a dozen (same company)
Move over to 3 or vodafone and enjoy high speed data (instead of the t-mobile 300 kbps limit)
No issue with mine and I got it on the 26th from p4u.
yeah i couldn't find anything of it, and as i said to him, most early adopters are going to be people like me, who actively use forums and follow pre/reviews etc...
i realise they have/are merging, but i really wanted to get a better deal upgrading, but tbh it was the guys cocky know-it-all attitude that really got me, i'm a huge believer in quality customer service, and when i originally questioned Phones 4 U as to why i should choose them over T-Mobile direct, i actually got a good 'honest' sales pitch, not a cheap-ass shot at the competition...
The T-Mobile guy even tried to tell me that the reason they aren't stocking it yet, and still not for at least a week, is due to the device having faulty software and told me to expect problems with my device over the comming few days...
Hope everyone else is loving their soon to be faulty SGS2's as much as i am!!!
Typical sales bull****. If there really is a common issue, its sure going to get noticed and logged onto forums. Unless its Apple, in which case the laws of fashion step in.
Can't say I'm too surprised, but can a company be more ambiguous about a release?
Many sources are claiming that it will release on Sunday 9/18. I've called 3 different local att stores and my answers ranged from never heard of it to we are restaging our store on Sunday 9/18 for some new phones but the SGS II is not part of it
Commercials on TV are everywhere, Sprint customers already have their hands on it and we(ATT customers) are left with "coming soon" without even a concrete release date.
The phone is already on the verge of being late to the party(been out since May globally) so come on AT&T, and give us some information that is worth something!
Botched? AT&T will release whenever and still sell a ton. Only people like you and me really care when the release date is.
I just called att sales and and they gave me the same old story about keep checking online. I pushed the issue about wanting to talk to a supervisor since I have heard that the stores are stocking them as we speak. He came back on and said he talked to his store manager (confused here as when you call sales they connect you to a store?) and then said his manager confirmed that they are stocking them in the stores but STILL could not give a release date. He said that could mean a few days or a week/s until they receive the release date. I said sprint came out with it today. I also asked about pre-order and he said they are not taking pre-orders. I am JUST AS frustrated as you on this whole fing matter. Just give us a REAL TRUE RELEASE DATE. I am GLAD that I never run att software and don't rely on them for it to be released ever. Well I guess we will see on Sunday. I will probably stop by a local att store today also and push them for info. I will be back once I am able to during my lunch break.
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(1) It's AT&T
(2) It's not an Apple product.
Regardless how much potential GS2 can be, AT&T simply won't give a s**t because it will never sell as many as iPhone 5 can be.
Best friend works for AT&T and they haven't got them in stock yet. They haven't heard a release date yet either. I can say that seeing sprint release it has me EXTREMELY anxious for this damned thing on AT&T. He knows how much I want this phone and is going to let me know as soon as they get it in stock.
Okay I am calling MANY ATT stores local to me (at least I have about 18 local stores that I am in the process of calling now. I will continue to update this post whenever I get a chance. I am listing the phone number, whether they say if/when the release date is, whether they say the do/don't have it IN STORE NOW. So far this is the first couple I have called:
EDIT: I called alot of the local att stores and listed them all below. Kind of bummed that none other than 1 said with good confirmation that they hadn't heard of a release yet. Some that say possibly Saturday said that that USUALLY before a phone is released they will get inventory the day before. I had let them know that I had spoken to 611 earlier which told me stores were starting to get stock today for either this Sunday 18th or next Sunday (which was TRUE from my conversation with 611). So I guess ONLY Sunday we will NO FOR SURE one way or another...I had also mentioned what the 1 store told me that they had them. Sorry but I am so excited and upset with the not hearing anything from att.
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1PHONE NUMBER.
2RELEASE DATE
3 IN STORE NOW
949-553-9861
NO
NO
949-764-0021
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NO
949-622-8240
18TH
YES (Said she guarantees it, close to inventory specialist)
714-327-0292
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NO
714-258-8290
NO
NO
714-965-4917
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MAYBE GET STOCK TOMORROW
714-541-0162
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MAYBE GET STOCK TOMORROW
714-573-0500
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NO
714-596-2700
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NO
949-559-1457
NO
NO
949-699-0643
NO
NO
949-425-0600
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POSSIBLY TOMORROW
714-285-9800
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714-538-5700
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NO
562-402-2417
NO
NO
562-402-8700
NO
POSSIBLY SATURDAY
714-870-9912
NO
NO
562-690-7522
NO
POSSIBLY SATURDAY
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Same thing happened with the release of the Captivate, T-Mobile got it first on a Thursday and rumors were that AT&T were releasing it that Sunday, no official announcement just a rumor. Went to AT&T that Saturday to ask about it and they said they only had cases for it but wouldn't expect it for another week, went across the street to Best Buy and they had it in stock!!!! Bought it and went back to AT&T with the Captivate in hand and asked to buy the case LOL.
Hopefully I'll have such luck tomorrow, if not then I'll be patient and get it Sunday, but if it's not out then Sprint may have my service!
Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
Same here actually Shammyh.
And don't forget that THIS phone is being released this weekend. They could be referring to this phone if they don't know the difference:
http://pocketnow.com/android/att-announces-budget-priced-huawei-imuplse-4g
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
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Lol me too! I used my upgrade at wal mart on christmas eve, they never took the upgrade off my account!
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Speak for yourself. I got a Captivate less than a year ago and I'm eligible for an upgrade.
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Well he meant the regular users without a special plan. I bought my Captivate in July 2010but i used my wife's upgrade Contract..... my Captivate Died on Weds so I was forced to use my Mother-inlaw's contract. That is the only reason I have the ability to upgrade to the SGS II if released on Sunday. Other than that I would have 6 more months to wait.
I bought the Captivate, July 17, 2010, I have been eligible for an upgrade since July 18, 2011, YMMV.
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I bought the Captivate, July 17, 2010, I have been eligible for an upgrade since July 18, 2011, YMMV.
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I bought mine in september '10 and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until may of '12. What I'm gonna do though is use an upgrade from another line on my plan. This way I can get the gs2 now and have the option for the prime or even gs3 next year.
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BenKranged said:
Its botched because they are a couple of days behind sprint?
The international version has been available for months if you have deep enough pockets.
If you can only afford a subsidized phone, keep waiting.
This is the captivate forum btw. If you bought a captivate on release or since then that line isn't eligible for an upgrade yet anyway.
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Ya I got my first cappy in July 1007 model, then my wife in October 1010 model. Mine is the primary account holder and my upgrade was ready as of end of August. So ya I am ready.
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Well I got a bit more bad news for us waiting for the S2 on ATT. I just came back from my local Radioshack and a Samsung rep was there. He told me specifically that the Galaxy S II will be launched on AT&T in early to mid OCTOBER!! WTF
I may wait a few more months and see what comes out by the end of the year, they shouldn't have waited to release this on ATT this long!
Ok so at&t giving special treatment to some customers and giving them more than 1 upgrade per line every 2 years is just one more reason to dislike them as a carrier.
Why does at&t not give me special treatment? I have 4 lines on my family plan and also u-verse tv service.
Playing favorites is a sure way to piss some customers off.
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Well I got a bit more bad news for us waiting for the S2 on ATT. I just came back from my local Radioshack and a Samsung rep was there. He told me specifically that the Galaxy S II will be launched on AT&T in early to mid OCTOBER!! WTF
I may wait a few more months and see what comes out by the end of the year, they shouldn't have waited to release this on ATT this long!
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Thank god I decided to import my phone a week before the first announcement lol. That is just too long of a wait already without having any concrete dates. Makes me wonder if they are really holding it out to be sure it competes with something.
Poor americans. Drunk on credit, heading for a cliff, with the corporate greedheads telling you keep going they've got the GPS heading locked in. Guy above is probably right too with the comments about apple having interests it needs to protect. System is clearly broken. Dunno how, but the volk in europe are getting closer to pushing reboot. For that matter, we all gotta flash a new kernel, yellow triangle be damned!
Spoke with *UPPITY* sales clerk behind the AT&T corporate store in the Suburbs of NYC (Long Island, Hicksville) and was told the following:
"What happened to the Galaxy S II, I don't see it on the sales floor anymore?"
"Sorry it's been replaced by the newer, Skyrocket..."
"Didn't the Galaxy S II just get released a few weeks back @ $199 on October 2nd...?"
"Yes, it's obsolete now because the Skyrocket replaces it @ $149 so it's discontinued..."
I couldn't talk, I couldn't stand the way she just stared at me w/ a cavalier, uncaring look on her face when I exclaimed my displeasure that my brand new Galaxy S II was *DISCONTINUED*...
"Blah blah blah ... I'll be happy to refund the phone for you minus the $35 restocking fee...blah blah blah"
I'm upset at her ATTITUDE she showed, not at the Samsung Galaxy SII.. The Skyrocket is BIGGER, LAGGY and slightly FUZZIER display when compared to my S II SGH-I777 due to the 4.5 SUPERAMOLED screen. No FM radio BUT it does have Visual Voicemail as a built in app...
I ***GLAD*** I picked up my SHG-I777 when I did otherwise, it would be too late. Hopefully this salesclerk is off her rocker when she suggests that the SGH-I777 has been discontinued for any FENCE SITTERS out there... ??!???
My personal TAKE on WHY AT&T dropped the SGH-I777 are two:
1. it's because they don't want to take heat for the HPSA+ vs. 4G (LTE) radio that wasn't on the SGH-I777. Also I played with it on display and I *LOVE* my SLIM S II vs. the Skyrocket
2. Confusion on Joe and Jane public walking into the store, "Look honey, there's the new galaxy Sii for $199 no it's over here called the Skyrocket and it's $50 CHEAPER at $149..." (No TYPO, that's $149.00...)
BTW - I also saw the OTHER LTE phone the HTC (Sorry don't remember the Model # exactly) BUT it does have an ON BOARD FM tuner and HD screen very VERY sharp gives the iphone a better run for the money and I *think* it might be a slightly better display than the SGH-I777
Whew what a mouthful! At any rate, still LOVING and ROCKIN' my SGH-I777 don't have any regrets or buyer's remorse... Hopefully this will be a helpful read for one or two people out there...
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I think the clerk was b.s.'ing you because the corporate store here still had S2 for sale and they claimed they will continue to sell it for some time to come. I agree about the HTC Vivid screen, it was quite nice.
I was told by Best Buy manager today that they pulled the OGSGS2 from the stores
I originally wanted to test out the Skyrocket till my 30days is up and then choose to go back to the OGSGS2, so I had to ask them if they are available...but he said they are being pulled
This might not be the case with AT&T Stores
Their removing it in select lte markets so they can sell more of the skyrocket, don't get the skyrocket horrible battery life and horrible processor
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Actually sad about this.
If not many original ASGS2 are sold and no talented developer works on "reoriented" kernels like for Captivate, our ROM choice would be very limited.
It's actually ridiculous to officially discontinue a 1 month old phone, even quicker than HP Touchpad...
its even on the site they may just take it out the store but we will have to see over the next week i really don't see it going anywhere anytime soon
Both phones are showing up on the site, and the Skyrocket is $50 more.
However, a number of leaked documents indicate that to try and push the ****rocket despite it being an inferior expensive device, they are discounting it by $100 and eliminating the I777 in LTE markets.
It may depend on the market it's being sold.
Where are you guys located?
yeah, i posted a thread on this about the phone being removed from LTE market AT&T corporate stores, but instead of opinions, everyone gave me heat about it.
but i guess it's bc i'm new and have no credit on anything i say yet, idk. lol
sucks though, but i still have my OGSGS2. i love it. you're right about the skyrocket, bit laggy.
but i do have a vivid, and i personally think its a good device, but i still find myself with my OGSGS2 alot more
http://www.talkandroid.com/71088-an...date-for-evo-3d-and-galaxy-s-ii-more-to-come/
there are rumors that it may happen soon
Well if the minimium wage associate with three hours of product training said it's discontinued than it must be.
I am a store manager for at&t in Jax FL, and I can assure you that it has not been discontinued. As a matter of fact, one of the memos that we got state that the skyrocket should be able to compliment the galaxy s 2 sales. The sgs2 is one of at&ts best sellers, and there is nothing slated for discontinuation. Any info anyone receives of the contrary, is b/s. Can we please put this rumor to bed now! Mid October, a report came out that Samsung sold 30mil gs2s in 15 days.
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I work for a corporate AT&T in South Florida and we actually just received another shipment of the OGSII. We're not an LTE market yet, but for what it's worth we haven't received any notification that they're discontinuing the SGII. She probably just made that up.
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I am a store manager for at&t, and I can assure you that it has not been discontinued. As a matter of fact, one of the memos that we got state that the skyrocket should be able to compliment the galaxy s 2 sales. The sgs2 is one of at&ts best sellers, and there is nothing slated for discontinuation. Any info anyone receives of the contrary, is b/s. Can we please put this rumor to bed now! Mid October, a report came out that Samsung sold 30mil gs2s in 15 days.
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giantenemybird said:
I work for a corporate AT&T in South Florida and we actually just received another shipment of the OGSII. We're not an LTE market yet, but for what it's worth we haven't received any notification that they're discontinuing the SGII. She probably just made that up.
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At last, voices of reason. Thanks guys for speaking up. Hopefully the Skyrocket will get its own forum soon so these endless threads with nothing but hearsay will have a home to call their own.
he's not in a LTE market. i'm specifically speaking of that, not everywhere.
the stores vary.
here in the LTE market, we didn't even have the OGSGS2 in store, everyone who wanted it had to order it.
I think it was said that it's temporarily discontinued in LTE markets to boost Skyrocket sales. Odd but that's what I was told in the couple stores by me.
Oh well, I got my OSGSII from Best Buy for $99. And I hopefully will get a $100 BB gift card for reward points
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At last, voices of reason. Thanks guys for speaking up. Hopefully the Skyrocket will get its own forum soon so these endless threads with nothing but hearsay will have a home to call their own.
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Hi Barry,
Voice of reason, *finally*?!?? Really, did I sound hysterical, was I not reasonable when I created my OP...? I paraphrased my ENTIRE conversation that took place when I walked into my LOCAL corporate AT&T store in Hicksville, NY (516) 935-7770. I was only asking about my current unlimited data plan and also wanted to see the new Skyrocket...
Would you like to know the reason why I bothered to asked the clerk about the SGH-I777this in the first place..., it's because I couldn't find it!!!!
I found the Android section with only 4 Android phones (Skyrocket, HTC, and two others but NO Samsung SGH-I777, so I had to ask...
Yoneilio - As an AT&T store manager, please contact Rob at the corporate AT&T store here in Hicksville, NY because he'll tell you just like I was told by the young sales girl that the SGH-I777 has been pulled...
*MAYBE* it's just this store policy if I had *KNOWN* in advance the reaction I was going to get, I wiould have asked for more specific details:
Is it pulled from this store only?
Long Island
or NYC metro area?
Believe me I will find out now, you guys just made it my *** Voice of Reason***...
For the record, I only posted this up here to find out the reaction and to see if this was local or not, I'm glad that Yoneilio spoke up at an AT&T rep and states that this isn't the case! Yoneilio when you call Rob, speak some sense into him and ask him WHY this is being pulled and how IRRATE the folks here are on the forum!!!
@ Giantenemybird - This goes for you too, since you're also an AT&T employee, see if you can get the skinny from Rob, too *IF* you can call long distance from FL to NY...
MANY MANY thanks to both of you both for your help in ADVANCE!!!!
I'm here in Forest Hill Queens and the AT&T store by me still has the OG GS2 in stock. I checked the store in Time Square and they also have them in stock.
Boston, LTE market. Have both in stock but the skyrocket is $249.
Firepac said:
I'm here in Forest Hill Queens and the AT&T store by me still has the OG GS2 in stock. I checked the store in Time Square and they also have them in stock.
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Thanks Firepac! If you head out EAST *EVER* The AT&T store is in Hicksville, same exit as IKEA, it's in the Walbaum's shopping center next to Liberty Travel agency... it a *NICE* store but NOTHING in comparison to the one in Downtown FLUSHING, NY...
Glad to know that so far, it seems to be isolated to only Hicksville...
I just talked to a local store (don't know how credible he is though) and was told ICS upgrades would start coming to AT&T phone next month. I confirmed this at 2 other stores in nearby cities this weekend who said the same thing. Seems legit.
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Would be nice to finally get a kernel and get some OC going
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Seems legitimate. AT&T and other like to get a flagship phone for something before they release the update and next month the HTC x one will be the first ICS phone to hit AT&T. Im starting to get excited.
TwiztidRS said:
Seems legitimate. AT&T and other like to get a flagship phone for something before they release the update and next month the HTC x one will be the first ICS phone to hit AT&T. Im starting to get excited.
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Technically, the Vivid already has ICS. I would hate to think that AT&T is holding up the ICS update for the Note (and the GS2 and Skyrocket for that matter) to appease HTC, since AT&T and HTC are like "bros"...
No doubt bring on the ics.
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this timeline would also play nicely with the rumor of a new ICS leak. Perhaps we can look forward to a leak of the final ICS.
Dont trust the reps
Trust me. No AT&T rep inside a store has any information on when phone updates are coming out. ;-)
AllTheWay said:
Trust me. No AT&T rep inside a store has any information on when phone updates are coming out. ;-)
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I'm going with this.
Most of them barely even know about what they're trying to sell.
zer0nine said:
I'm going with this.
Most of them barely even know about what they're trying to sell.
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I agree. Those reps don't even know what devices they're getting. I *****ed after I got my infuse because I asked if anything new was coming out in the near future and they said no...a month later here comes the gs2 and the sky rocket not long after the gs2. They have no idea.
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I work for att corporate and they do not tell is the store when a update is coming and if by slim chance they do send something down the pipe it is within a couple days of the update and we are not bros with HTC we have way more Samsung smart phones than HTC
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ahenderson223 said:
I work for att corporate and they do not tell is the store when a update is coming and if by slim chance they do send something down the pipe it is within a couple days of the update and we are not bros with HTC we have way more Samsung smart phones than HTC
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That just means Samsung makes more smartphones than anyone else. Samsung also has the highest percentage of smartphones on T-mobile and Sprint as well.
AT&T exclusivity deals with HTC go way back:
Tilt = Kaiser
Inspire = Desire HD
Titan(II) = same
One X = same
Not to mention, HTC was the first to have a 4G(HSPA+) device and one of the first to have a 4G(LTE) device on AT&T. And in a couple weeks, they will have the only 2 devices running ICS (except for the Nexus S which AT&T doesn't carry or market*).
*EDIT: It seems the AT&T version still has not received it's ICS update though it can be done manually
I'm not saying AT&T and Samsung don't have a good business relationship, obviously they do, but I feel AT&T panders to HTC much more. So far, AT&T has only been able to land the Note as an exclusive deal, but maybe there will be more, who knows.
(Niche devices aside, which by the way, some could argue that the Note is a niche device)
Anyway, back to the topic, I feel the ICS update for the GNote will probably not come around until late summer. Samsung only committed to Q2 for the International versions. I think everyone can agree that US carriers usually drag their feet on updates so they can play the "marketing" game.
Gizmodo confirms
Samsung has published a list detailing which carrier variants of its phones and tablets will be blessed with Android Ice Cream Sandwich. While Sprint's Nexus S 4G is already enjoying the latest Android OS, the update will also arrive on the Now Network's Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. From Verizon, both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 will get the upgrade, accompanied by the WiFi variants of the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus and the Galaxy Tab 8.9.
On AT&T, ICS is confirmed for its Galaxy S II, the Galaxy S II Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, Captivate Glide, Nexus S and Galaxy Tab 8.9. T-Mobile customers, however, lack a similarly breathless list of upgradable hardware, instead Samsung says it will aim to upgrade "eligible devices" in the coming months and will "provide updates as we have additional details to share." Which all sounds like those updates aren't coming to Big Magenta any time soon. Samsung vows to update the list with more details as they arrive, which is available at the source below.
StarLog said:
Gizmodo confirms
Samsung has published a list detailing which carrier variants of its phones and tablets will be blessed with Android Ice Cream Sandwich. While Sprint's Nexus S 4G is already enjoying the latest Android OS, the update will also arrive on the Now Network's Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. From Verizon, both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 will get the upgrade, accompanied by the WiFi variants of the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus and the Galaxy Tab 8.9.
On AT&T, ICS is confirmed for its Galaxy S II, the Galaxy S II Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, Captivate Glide, Nexus S and Galaxy Tab 8.9. T-Mobile customers, however, lack a similarly breathless list of upgradable hardware, instead Samsung says it will aim to upgrade "eligible devices" in the coming months and will "provide updates as we have additional details to share." Which all sounds like those updates aren't coming to Big Magenta any time soon. Samsung vows to update the list with more details as they arrive, which is available at the source below.
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Not really confirmation of a release date, just confirmation of the devices. However things are looking good for a release date "soon"
live4nyy said:
That just means Samsung makes more smartphones than anyone else. Samsung also has the highest percentage of smartphones on T-mobile and Sprint as well.
AT&T exclusivity deals with HTC go way back:
Tilt = Kaiser
Inspire = Desire HD
Titan(II) = same
One X = same
Not to mention, HTC was the first to have a 4G(HSPA+) device and one of the first to have a 4G(LTE) device on AT&T. And in a couple weeks, they will have the only 2 devices running ICS (except for the Nexus S which AT&T doesn't carry or market*).
*EDIT: It seems the AT&T version still has not received it's ICS update though it can be done manually
I'm not saying AT&T and Samsung don't have a good business relationship, obviously they do, but I feel AT&T panders to HTC much more. So far, AT&T has only been able to land the Note as an exclusive deal, but maybe there will be more, who knows.
(Niche devices aside, which by the way, some could argue that the Note is a niche device)
Anyway, back to the topic, I feel the ICS update for the GNote will probably not come around until late summer. Samsung only committed to Q2 for the International versions. I think everyone can agree that US carriers usually drag their feet on updates so they can play the "marketing" game.
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The skyrocket is only on att as well as captivate glide and the rugby smart what HTC phone is only on att
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ahenderson223 said:
The skyrocket is only on att as well as captivate glide and the rugby smart what HTC phone is only on att
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The Skyrocket is essentially a GS2 device with LTE and a bigger screen. T-mobile and Sprint pretty much already had the same thing. And to be honest, the Infuse and OG GS2 (AT&T variant) were just "marketing" stepping stones to stay in the game and should have probably never been released. How many people suffered "buyer's remorse" because of those two devices? Answer: Plenty.
The Glide and Rugby Smart (and Double Time) are niche devices. I'm talking about flagship devices, like the Tilt was and the Inspire could have been if released sooner. The Titan(II) and One X are flagship devices that AT&T has managed to get exclusivity deals (even if for a short time).
And let's not bring in other countries/carriers like Bell or Rogers because AT&T is in the US market and that's what I'm speaking of, US carriers.
And let's not forget the Samsung Focus(S), which were essentially flagship devices for WP from Samsung and AT&T hardly did any marketing for either one even though they were superior to the likes of the HTC Surround, which AT&T did a ton of marketing for.
I bought the phone at the beginning of this month at Best Buy. The salesman told me that the phone would have the ICS upgrade in Q2 and said that you could go to the Samsung website and find that info. (I realize the annoucement on Sammies site was for the Euro version) If they push that date back is that grounds for a return/exchange (because it is being used as a selling point)? I doubt that I would, but if they are on the hook for that then it may be more of an indication that the release will come out as promised. Companies are all about minimizing liability. Don't know if it helps but it's something to consider.
Highly unlikely, sales people can pretty much say anything they want. You would probably have to have them put it into writing within the contract before signing it. Even then I'm sure there's some disclaimer that relieves them of any responsibility in that case.
Unless the public can somehow manage to create a mass exodus of customers from one carrier there will be no changes in the way they do business. All we can really do to avoid disappointment is when purchasing a phone, ask yourself, "Can I use this phone as is for my entire contract?" without any expectation of updates. Or, find a phone that already has a good development community behind it.
Nightforge said:
I bought the phone at the beginning of this month at Best Buy. The salesman told me that the phone would have the ICS upgrade in Q2 and said that you could go to the Samsung website and find that info. (I realize the annoucement on Sammies site was for the Euro version) If they push that date back is that grounds for a return/exchange (because it is being used as a selling point)? I doubt that I would, but if they are on the hook for that then it may be more of an indication that the release will come out as promised. Companies are all about minimizing liability. Don't know if it helps but it's something to consider.
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I just read on Engadget that Samsung has finally heard about ICS and after months of deliberation finally decided to tell people that, yes indeed Samsung has heard about it, and that some day in the (perhaps distant) future they will give a timetable as to when they will think about it some more: subject to further change (of course).
This is all very encouraging. When (or if) they do release it, I can always get the Note back from the museum I donated it to (assuming of course the world still exists.
ANYONE that believes something an in store rep is telling them, in regard to updates, is just a store rep trying to sell you something. The only time I believe
that an update is coming, is when I see others getting it or my phone say "update available".
I don't believe carriers or manufacturers about updates anymore. I had a Nexus S on AT&T, which I bought because of the promise of being among the first to get the latest updates, straight from Google. It finally just got an ICS update very recently, months after ICS came out. Very disappointing. Now I'm making my phone decisions based on how much is available from the development community.