I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
reading the dev forum for even 5 minutes will answer most of your questions
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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The development has just begun. Unlocked BL was about a week ago. We're working on an international unlocked BL atm, but there is a guaranteed stable 2-int international being developed as we speak and that may yield international fruitfulness.
There are 6-8 quality developers who could have a full conversation in code who work on the atrix, and a lot of normal computer geeks who help out here and there (and make simple mods such as bootscreens and such).
It's definitely a great phone, I'm so glad I got it, and the dev community is great. I would recommend it.
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
djkinetic said:
knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
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The bell ones are cheaper, don't have the ATT branding, and I would guess the radio software is different, but I"m not sure
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Hi guys,
A buddy is offering me his atrix 4G unlocked from Korea with Carrier (Anycall) branding. I just wanna know if everything available on the forums can be used on this version? Unlocking the bootloader and getting root should not be a problem but it's the custom roms and themes that I am worried about. I don't wanna end up buying something running only stock lol!
Why are all roms on the atrix only P-Roms?
How would you guys rate the roms for the atrix compared to other phones? Are they full featured? bug free? Stable?
THANKS
because the bootloader isn't unlocked?
check out the dev forums they just got 2nd init working but no roms have been created for it.
The P-roms are fine and stable since they are just P-roms.
I would check out sevens vguide to flashing deodexing and theming. If your firmware is supported there follow the instructions and you'll be gingerblured in no time
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and chillin, canadian Motorola Atrix
I might be able to get the At&t version so there should be no limitations to what I can install right?
How is your overall experience with the atrix? Im using a Nexus S right now and it is really really fast.
nexus s? nice. right now you might some things faster with the NS since you are on gingerbread and possibly using a custom rom? with that said the atrix is pretty damn fast as well. contemplated the S but wasn't enough of a spec upgrade over the N1. would love to hear your comparisons between the two.
Hi, im an owner of Samsung Epic 4G. Im grateful for XDA developers and CM for supporting Samsung Epic. But now, it getting old and Im looking in getting used Motorola Photon for faster user experience and longer battery life. I have some questions for this forum. I recalled somewhere that if you unlocked the bootloader, it will break 4G. Not sure if they got it working now. Second, I see some threads that CM9 will support this device. Is that true that moto photon devs working on it. Thank for taking ur time to answer my few questions! I hope Motorola Photon will exceed my exception!
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Hi, im an owner of Samsung Epic 4G. Im grateful for XDA developers and CM for supporting Samsung Epic. But now, it getting old and Im looking in getting used Motorola Photon for faster user experience and longer battery life. I have some questions for this forum. I recalled somewhere that if you unlocked the bootloader, it will break 4G. Not sure if they got it working now. Second, I see some threads that CM9 will support this device. Is that true that moto photon devs working on it. Thank for taking ur time to answer my few questions! I hope Motorola Photon will exceed my exception!
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Ya, unlocking the bootloader does break 4g, and we don't have a workaround.
Cm9 doesn't officially support the photon but we do have a wonderful cm9 kang that I'm running right now. Battery life is good, and pretty much everything works aside from some small things. I
Also, it requires an unlocked bootloader.
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really? Thanks! Are they working on 4G or it is impossible to fix?
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really? Thanks! Are they working on 4G or it is impossible to fix?
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There are obviously many devs spending countless hours to extract the maximum benefit from the hardware. Unfortunately Sprint & Motorola forces the enthusiast to cripple network performance as the price for experimenting.
I was naive and uneducated and bought the Photon before I realized this limitation. This is the first Android device I'be owned with a locked bootloader. It is an unusual feeling. /whiner
Best regards,
-boggsie
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is it possible to root it without unlocking bootloader?
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is it possible to root it without unlocking bootloader?
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Yes, rooting does not break 4G, only unlocking the bootloader will break 4G.
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is it possible to root it without unlocking bootloader?
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As trcurren mentions, it is possible to root without unlocking. You'll probably want to go to a Sprint store and take some time to try to setup the Photon with stuff you're likely to want if you choose to buy one.
You may not be that particular. For the last 18 months, I had always run Cyanogenmod on my devices, so that is the user experience I had come to expect. It's a great phone but, for example, when the last four devices I had on Cyanogenmod, I could setup the home screen with Launcher Go Pro in a very particular way. With the Photon, I can't quite get there.
You may end up being very, very happy. Just investigate and dive in an informed buyer.
Best regards,
-boggsie
Well, it either this or Sprint galaxy SII. Motorola Photon is cheaper and it have longer battery life than Galaxy SII.
I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
Questions should be in Q&A or general, but to answer your question, not everyone lives in a wimax area so what is the point of 4g when there is no signal to use?
^ this. I'll probably need someone to change my diapers for me by the time sprint has 4g in my area. Oops tmi?
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a good sprint locked rom would prolly be a good idea actually since a lot of new users prolly gunna end up with this 2.3.5 bootloader and even later as sprint moves to ics
Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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I live in a 4g area and sprints 4g isn't good anyway so long live the unlocked roms! I mean if you stand in the middle of the street and don't move then it's awesome.
I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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Ill work on that sprint leaked one have a couple testers probably 2night
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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
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Since I also live in a 4g area I'm not willing to give up my 4g by staying perm unlocked. Ive been reading and learning and am testing a locked rom just adding the tweaks hope to be ready in a few days.
I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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i can honestly say ive never flashed any of your roms. right now my ideal one would be the 2.3.5 with fixed hdmi.. with that id be happy :/
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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you need to look up what open is, as it stands htcs "unlock is getting more and more locked down
I understand what you mean about htc being more locked down...that is why htc was second in my choices of my next phone. But I know that whatever man can lock down can be unlocked. It just take the desire too do it. If I was more of a developer and more advanced in this particular field I could spend more time working on it. But I am still learning and trying to figure it all out.
But thanks for your observations, and you developmental skills. We all appreciate it.
Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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In the defense of unlocking, I don't remember when was the last time I wasn't on a ICS base rom. I have full 4g in my area and everywhere I have to go to work. but I like customizability and choices. sprint 3g is fast as **** here so I don't miss 4g at all. I don't think I've even run a kernel that can't be overclocked to 1.4 in a while also... so, I stay unlocked. Also, Rocko's roms are sweet.. locked or unlocked thanks for all the hard work...
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I have an Otterbox Defender that needs to go with it. If you want to adjust the price a little, we can make it happen. You can check my feedback on Ebay if you want and Ill give you my contact info.. Im a straight shooter. Id even be willing to go back to my OG Epic 4G just to get rid of this thing.
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Rocko,
Your Blur build is what i use when i need to go back to blur Great build! Id run it as my daily, but im a CM addict.
To the OP,
its all in the name of "bc they can." 4G(WIMAX) for me is over rated, 3G downloads emails and all that jazz plenty fast enough. id rather have the latest software then 4G, and ive been glued to CM since my EVO.
MadFlava,
screen sucks for gaming... Solitaire works great on my photon ha ha obviously im not a big gamer. I dont plan to make a move to a different phone unless the devs move. Ill follow them
[rant mode enabled]
(if this affects my chances of ever getting dev status I'm not sure if I care as I've been waiting for almost a year)
Almost every day there's a "I can't find it" thread or post for a file that I personally hosted. Where can these files be found? In a STICKIED thread that I try to maintain and keep up to date. This leads me to believe that the money spent hosting and the work involved in the stickied thread is ignored and unappreciated by many.
People are still flashing 2.3.5electrify pudding on photons after it has been said many times "don't do it". Again this goes back to the previous paragraph. I'm now to the point that if you bork your phone considering that the information is obviously available, you deserve it.
Nobody is developing for locked? Since when? There's three locked ROM's/mods that I know of right now without looking. Rocko Locked to start, which I have said is a bloody good ROM for those that want eyecandy. Imperium Locked is for those that want a barebones ROM that was updated less than a week ago. Here's a surprise for folks. The Deblur/Debloat Script is an ODEXED version of Imperium Locked without the theme change! How many Locked ROMs do you want, or is it that reading and searching are to much of a bother.
Other annoying things are "I don't like the way it looks" complaints and the general lack of "thanks" or support. If you don't like the way a ROM looks then flash a theme. That's what they are there for. If you can't be bothered to flash a theme (and don't say there are none) then don't flash anything. Developing takes effort, time and money. If you are not developing, hitting the "thanks" button or donating then you are leeching, plain and simple.
Also. Why is this thread in the development section? I don't see any development work posted.
[end of rant]
Photon Locked vs unlocked;
Locked ROMs give you the benefit of being very close to the stock base in many cases. Things like PRL and profile updates work and in some cases you can choose to accept an OTA update with little to no issues. You also loose fewer stock features with locked like 4G. The drawback is that battery life is shorter, it runs slower and fine tuning is almost impossible.
Unlocked ROM's give you more choice and greater flexibility with things like full themes, kernels and overclocking/undervolting. It then becomes a choice of need vs want. My daily is my own ROM that is underclocked to 750MhZ single core and NOT undervolted. With the tuning of profiles, my battery fall off is 1% every three hours, video playback is around six hours and during a call my phone never breaks 456MhZ. In short, battery life is insane with a standby mode of 10 days before I get a low battery prompt. This cannot be done with locked. The only thing I loose is 4G but considering the impact 4G has on battery life I can actually transfer more data than if I did have 4G just at a slower rate.
If LTE proves to be more battery friendly then I may change my position but for now I personally choose flexibility and the ability to fine tune over 4G any day.
The DeBlur tool is awesome. I just had to flash back because Im going to participate in the SOAK if I get chosen. Everyone should run the DeBlur tool.
My wife wanted new phones since our contract was up. As a result I will be selling my Atrix which has CM 10.1 that epinter is working on. As some features do not work with this ROM, is there a suggested best ROM with most or all functions working to install before selling???
It pretty much comes down to the buyer's preference, pretty much the same as it was with user preference for you. Some prefer stock or tweaked/modded stock to use stock features like lapdock, some prefer third party GB based ROM's to be able to use everything reliably, and some are willing to sacrifice certain features to be able to use ICS or JB ROM's.
I've seen pretty often where the seller gives the end user the choice of ROM to be installed, not just for phones, but tablets as well.
I've been very happy with MROM as my choice for a GB rom..
I'd say flashing the latest stock ROM is the safest choice. Any buyer that cares about custom ROMs will probably be advanced enough to flash one themselves. Plus, it's so much sweeter when you mod your phone yourself instead of it coming premodded.
OP, did your wife have a rooted Atrix 4G that you sold on ebay a few months back? If so, I'm pretty sure I was the buyer!
Anyway, my Atrix came unlocked and rooted with Neutrino (CM7) flashed. I installed GO Launcher (perhaps negating the quickness Neutrino intended), but I love it.
Best part, I am on T-mobile, so when I got the phone a few months back, it wouldn't work on 4G; but now that T-Mobile has rolled out their new band to attract iPhone users (1900 I believe), I get HSPA+ almost everywhere I go. Of course now, apparently, unlocking a new phone is illegal so all T-mobile's work may have been for naught.
As a total noob when I bought the phone, I was happy to have it pre-rooted and flashed, and Neutrino served quite well - simple, fast but highly customizable. I was terrified of the thought of "bricking" my phone, but I was quite fed up with the Motoblur crap that had seriously bogged down my previous phone (cliq xt, which I rooted myself later on ).
ravilov said:
I'd say flashing the latest stock ROM is the safest choice. Any buyer that cares about custom ROMs will probably be advanced enough to flash one themselves. Plus, it's so much sweeter when you mod your phone yourself instead of it coming premodded.
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That might be true for those of us who check xda regularly, but not everyone enjoys the modding process. I would suggest offering a choice between stock or a rom. I have no clue how this will affect the selling price since some people might not care and might just skip over your phone for an easier option.
Hey, I am about to upgrade and I will likely hold out for the new Motorola phone, but if it is a disappointment then the G3 is a very interesting option.
Curious what to look for as far as custom ROMs are concerned. I am addicted to running custom ROMs however I have had a Nexus phone lately so the whole unlocking/rooting/hackability has never been an issue. I see the the G3 has root, but I presume something else must be done before a custom recovery can be installed...thus no custom ROMs.
I love the G3s hardware, but I will never love OEM software. I want stock Android and I am hoping that will be possible with the Moto X+1 and/or the G3.
Thanks guys and gals
I'm pretty sure once someone can find an exploit to unlock the boot loader, we'll see a custom recovery as well as a few roms shortly after. I don't think there will be stock android until CM adds G3 support
I have faith in the devs that they'll eventually unlock this phone. It's been said in a few places that the security isn't as tough as say in the S4 for example.
That said though... This phones stock experience really isn't bad IMO. Best stock I've ever had. Being rooted and with xposed it's quite tolerable.
I'm a crack flasher though so believe me the itch is there!
- Sent From My G3
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I have faith in the devs that they'll eventually unlock this phone. It's been said in a few places that the security isn't as tough as say in the S4 for example.
That said though... This phones stock experience really isn't bad IMO. Best stock I've ever had. Being rooted and with xposed it's quite tolerable.
I'm a crack flasher though so believe me the itch is there!
- Sent From My G3
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Agree totally
If you want a flagship phone that will definitely run custom roms, I believe the htc one m8 is it for now. I agree with the other posters that the G3 will likely get a bootloader unlock at some point, but there are no guarantees. That said, the stock rom has a similar look and feel to the cm 11 rom I was running on my galaxy s3. While not AOSP, it doesn't annoy me the way touchwiz did and I won't have buyer's remorse if the bootloader stays locked.
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Agree totally
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better be soon or mine is gone.
oneandroidnut said:
better be soon or mine is gone.
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You know as soon as you get rid of yours like the following day or week they'll unlock it lol
... So get rid of it quick!
- Sent From My G3
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You know as soon as you get rid of yours like the following day or week they'll unlock it lol
... So get rid of it quick!
- Sent From My G3
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haha ok i will throw in my desk drawer then and hope it gets unlocked!!!
This thread is pointless! Asking will there ever be custom ROMs? Of course there will be. But what you and many others fail to remember is that these phones are harder and harder to crack each time. Only reason the M8 had root and S-Off so quickly is jcase had a 3yr old vuln that wasnt patched yet. They patched it and then he had to spend more time and money cracking it again and he made a new version, which he charged for since it was such a PITA. Look how long it took the S5 to get it. Just be happy we have root.
If you are so worried about not having an unlocked bootloader, you should get rid of Verizon and get AT&T or Tmo that supports devices that are unlocked right from the manufacture. They will always have Nexus devices and other cool ones Verizon will never see since they dont allow none Verizon devices on their network.
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This thread is pointless! Asking will there ever be custom ROMs? Of course there will be. But what you and many others fail to remember is that these phones are harder and harder to crack each time. Only reason the M8 had root and S-Off so quickly is jcase had a 3yr old vuln that wasnt patched yet. They patched it and then he had to spend more time and money cracking it again and he made a new version, which he charged for since it was such a PITA. Look how long it took the S5 to get it. Just be happy we have root.
If you are so worried about not having an unlocked bootloader, you should get rid of Verizon and get AT&T or Tmo that supports devices that are unlocked right from the manufacture. They will always have Nexus devices and other cool ones Verizon will never see since they dont allow none Verizon devices on their network.
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I don't believe it is a "pointless" thread or question. GS5 doesn't have an unlocked bootloader and who knows if they ever will. They have an exploit to run essentially stripped down versions of the stock ROM but that is it. I have not intentions on switching carriers I was simply asking what the status of the G3 was as far as unlocking was concerned.
Thank you to everyone else that responded, I think the G3 is still a viable option for me. I am going to wait to see what Motorola puts out there, but if I don't like it I'll pull the trigger on the G3.
I think it is pointless because you're asking people to predict the future. Nobody can answer the question. Therefore, the question is pointless.
This thread has outlived it's usefulness.
The progress of this device's development can be followed by reading the threads in it's forum.
When progress is made it will be reported in either the general or development sections.
If there are any questions please PM me.
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