I have no doubt that someone has written about this previously, but because I don't know exactly what terms I'm searching for, I'm hoping someone can either comment or point me to another forum where this has been answered.
I have an HTC Legend running Android 2.2. Because a) it came with pre-installed software that I don't want, b) I would like to Root the device, c) it has started to lag very often (my biggest issue) and d) I'd like to upgrade to 2.3, I'd like to know how to do Full wipe, fresh install. If I were to compare this to what I'd be asking to do on a computer, it would be a full format and re-install of the operating system.
How do I this?
Thanks,
L
Before I rooted, I did one of these and it came out fine as if it was brand new:
MENU -> Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Data Reset
thanks for the quick reply, but i would expect that simply doing a factory reset would leave all that initial pre-loaded software that came with the Rom on my system. there's a bunch of stuff there that I just don't want.
also, are there any downsides to Rooting?
lazeinadream said:
thanks for the quick reply, but i would expect that simply doing a factory reset would leave all that initial pre-loaded software that came with the Rom on my system. there's a bunch of stuff there that I just don't want.
also, are there any downsides to Rooting?
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Because you're not rooted, the stuff that came with your ROM is probably the carrier's preference and therefore cannot be removed through a factory reset. If you just want pure stock, search up how to debrand your phone. It's safe and doesn't require root.
And root voids your warranty, about the only downside I can think of.
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The lag can probably solved by enabling "USB debugging". This is a known issue in FroYo (2.2) on Legend.
Go to: Menu --> Settings --> Applications --> Development
Then, place a checkmark behind "USB debugging". This should solve most of the lags.
thanks KPN. but why would a USB debugging setting change the lag on my phone, especially considering i never connect my phone to comp?
the lag is BAD. when i close all the unnecessary running processes it stops lagging for a while and then after a bit of use starts to lag again. only solution is to do a power off/on cycle.
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thanks KPN. but why would a USB debugging setting change the lag on my phone, especially considering i never connect my phone to comp?
the lag is BAD. when i close all the unnecessary running processes it stops lagging for a while and then after a bit of use starts to lag again. only solution is to do a power off/on cycle.
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I'm not sure why this is, but it is a known issue. Try it yourself and you'll see I had the same problem after the update to stock Froyo.
And btw, KPN is my provider, not my name
ahhh, indeed it is. apologies Azaruc. i'm branding myself as a newbie pretty blatantly here!
i just changed that setting on my phone.... and could is it my imagination or is there no lag anymore??? i don't want to speak to soon but holy sh1t!
will post back here if the lag returns.
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ahhh, indeed it is. apologies Azaruc. i'm branding myself as a newbie pretty blatantly here!
i just changed that setting on my phone.... and could is it my imagination or is there no lag anymore??? i don't want to speak to soon but holy sh1t!
will post back here if the lag returns.
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Ghehe, apologies accepted
I'm pretty sure this will solve the lag completely.
As for you other problems, you need root access for them. Once you're rooted you can remove stock apps by using Titanium Backup, Root Explorer or ADB (I think ADB is impossible without root access, I know for sure the others need root).
Full wipe can be done using CWM, a custom recovery.
USB debugging lag-fix WORKED. now: how to root?
well, i have to admit Azaruc that that was a pretty incredible fix. the lag is gone. amazing. thank you.
i guess i will need to Root my phone. not too worried about the warranty, and hopefully i can follow one of these how-to guides despite my being very very new to all of this. the only how-to guide i've seen to root the legend so far is somewhat complicated considering it has to be downgraded to 1.3 first. not to mention i read that the legend is a particularly difficult phone to root generally.
would you or someone be able to send me a link to the best, simplest, clearest how-to guide to Root the legend that already has Froyo?
Thanks again!
lazeinadream said:
well, i have to admit Azaruc that that was a pretty incredible fix. the lag is gone. amazing. thank you.
i guess i will need to Root my phone. not too worried about the warranty, and hopefully i can follow one of these how-to guides despite my being very very new to all of this. the only how-to guide i've seen to root the legend so far is somewhat complicated considering it has to be downgraded to 1.3 first. not to mention i read that the legend is a particularly difficult phone to root generally.
would you or someone be able to send me a link to the best, simplest, clearest how-to guide to Root the legend that already has Froyo?
Thanks again!
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I think I mainly used this guide. But I've had some problems rooting my phone, so I combined various guides, not sure which anymore
lazeinadream said:
well, i have to admit Azaruc that that was a pretty incredible fix. the lag is gone. amazing. thank you.
i guess i will need to Root my phone. not too worried about the warranty, and hopefully i can follow one of these how-to guides despite my being very very new to all of this. the only how-to guide i've seen to root the legend so far is somewhat complicated considering it has to be downgraded to 1.3 first. not to mention i read that the legend is a particularly difficult phone to root generally.
would you or someone be able to send me a link to the best, simplest, clearest how-to guide to Root the legend that already has Froyo?
Thanks again!
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Related
Was curious what the lag was. I have a fully stock vibrant. Not by choice, my phone is hardware locked. It runs very smooth, opening apps is very snappy.
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Some phones suffer slow performance that can be seen in certain areas like the market or generally while operating the the phone.
Thanks G1. I appreciate the response.
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All~G1 said:
Some phones suffer slow performance that can be seen in certain areas like the market or generally while operating the the phone.
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Is it undoable though?
Like I want my phone unrooted and un modded when the update comes out.
*I've heard having it unrooted and unmodded = less problems when updating?
Jhnboy said:
Is it undoable though?
Like I want my phone unrooted and un modded when the update comes out.
*I've heard having it unrooted and unmodded = less problems when updating?
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Yes it is completely reversible. I would say look into the "tips and tricks sticky" & the "rom bible". Search the forums for ODIN & adb, because they will be need to be up & running to revert.
As for the OTA update, there are 3 things that could happen. 1. You'll lose root and it will be locked (till someone roots that specific code) 2. Possibly the code (any code for example) will include something that can cause your phone to brick, not permanently, but it's possible. 3 nothing at all could happen but the update.
If the updates are anything like what we see on other phones, someone here will have that sucker modded by the time you wake up the next morning.
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Yes it is completely reversible. I would say look into the "tips and tricks sticky" & the "rom bible". Search the forums for ODIN & adb, because they will be need to be up & running to revert.
As for the OTA update, there are 3 things that could happen. 1. You'll lose root and it will be locked (till someone roots that specific code) 2. Possibly the code (any code for example) will include something that can cause your phone to brick, not permanently, but it's possible. 3 nothing at all could happen but the update.
If the updates are anything like what we see on other phones, someone here will have that sucker modded by the time you wake up the next morning.
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If its reversible then can't we just reverse the root and lag fix and have no problems with the OTA update?
Yes. As long as you take the right steps you can go back to non-rooted vibrant & get the OTA
Ok, I was thinking about maybe using that one click root app I found on the market but i need to know how safe is it? and is there a fully awesomely working version of Froyo out there or even gingerbread I can use and if so how do I install it?
And when the official froyo update comes out will my phone still be able to revive the over the air update?
Using the OCLF/Root was completely safe and easy, for me at least.
No issues at all doing it, it went very smooth with no issues at all.
Yes -- you can still receive OTA updates once you've rooted.
Ian
def no gingerbread out there for you to run
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
98classic said:
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
Safe as in what? Secure wise or bricking your device? The Vibrant is easy to root but secure wise you need to be careful since your device will be "open" to any program getting root access.
I see people use the click app to root their phones. Check it out on YouTube that's where I found the info. Personally I am not going to root my cuz I don't want to deal with the headaches. Yes I have root one android phone before & was successful. I enjoy putting different roms but when I flash CM6 one his first updates on that then later on couldn't change the rom. The reason cuz I had a low memory I was told on the phone internally. So I am taking no chances with phone.
vamp6x6x6x said:
yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
NoDataFound said:
Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
NoDataFound said:
Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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So are you admitting you like sausage lol
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vamp6x6x6x said:
lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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Too much work. Easier to add ps.
I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!
Before Rooting....
1) learn how to use the keyboard
2) find out what Froyo and the consequences of installing a beta are
3) No, if you install Froyo probably you won't be able to get the OTA update when available and, you may not be able to roll down if you want to.
I would stay out of it if i was you
not worthy to just root to flash the leaked Froyo... You only get the 'skin' of Froyo.. there is no JIT and GPS is not working
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant using the xda-developers app.
SamVib said:
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant using the xda-developers app.
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I understand what your saying, and believe me I know a lot about android and actually a little bit about rooting but I am super paranoid about bricking my phone for two reasons:
I love my phone.
I had to pay full price for it.
What I don't understand that much is about different roms and whatnot. As for the Gingerbread thing I was kidding, but I was serious about the Froyo thing...but after reading this thread i have decided that if I do ever root with the one click root app it will only me to install simple things like lag fix, adfree, etc. Thank you for your help.
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
va
ughnsphotoart;8349227 said:
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Or you can revert to a backup.
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vaughnsphotoart said:
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Simple unroot your phone
nomadrider123 said:
Simple unroot your phone
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you know the one-click root that comes with the one-click lag fix? The unroot part didn't work.
This was my experience hacking on the g1 too... sometimes things worked, sometimes they didn't. When they don't, it's a lousy trip.
I just get sick of messing with it sometimes, and just want it to work.
First off, I would like to say that I have been actively reading and searching the web for information on these topics and I have found many different sources and answers.
The reason why I am still starting a new threat about this is because I am completely new to the 'development'/modifying spectrum of my phone. And while many of the threats give accurate descriptions on how to root it or what to use, I still am left with many noobi blanks on this topic.
1. Rooting, what exactly are the benefits and what will be altered if I decide to root my device?
2. Is it worth it to root my phone? What's the major benefits and new things I will be able to do? And are there any problems or dangers I need to be aware of? (I've been using it for almost a year without doing so) Also, is there a way I could backup my current files and data and then place it back on the rooted device?
3. I've read about ways of rooting in which the kernel will be altered and about some in which it won't even be touched. So, what is the, let me put it bluntly, 'best' rooting technique/way to go with?
Thank you for any help possible on this topic!
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
UpInTheAir said:
Read the Stickies and thread FAQ's first!
Here's two ;
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11)
FAQS/Guide/Additional Info For Rooting S2 - High level summary
Should get you started
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Wow I can't believe I've missed these two! Will read them right away!
Thank you for the quick help!
Any other help and opinions/experiences are still greatly appreciated!
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
JJEgan said:
If you don't know why or don't even have an app that requires root then its not needed at all .
jje
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Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
Mr__KJ said:
Well that was one of my many blanks. I know many friends who rooted their phones, but not for what exactly besides having different themes or the 'toiletpaper' scrolling in the menue section.
What kind of apps require rooting then?
I do want to start 'playing' around with my phone a bit more to use it to it's full potential, including overclocking for instance.
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No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
AJ.Rockwell said:
No shame in asking this question. Before I rooted my phone I spent a few weeks lurking on this forum, and constantly asking a friend with a 'droid phone about what is it - eventually the true power comes to you when you root and see for yourself. But one of the rooting "landmarks" are
- backing and restoring your applications via Titanium Backup
- Undervolting/Underclocking or overclocking and tweaking your phone (therefore gaining some more battery life/performance)
- use of various plugins such as Chainfire3D + CF.Lumen (you can buy&play games not initially intended for S2 and improve your night time use with the latter)
- many more cool things that you will find out for yourself
hope it gave you a little insight about the power you unleash.
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Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty. And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
Yep it indeed did!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks for the quick insight and info!
-So is there actually no way in the current unrooted state to do these backups? I've been looking around for quite a while now for backing up my phone's content. Besides Kies that doesn't even cover everything I've come up empty.
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No, you cannot back up app data without root.
Mr__KJ said:
And how I could back up my conversations for instance (if that is even possible), but I haven't found anything on that matter.
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If by conversations you mean your SMS, you CAN back up and restore SMS withOUT root using one of several apps. I use SMS Backup+; it backs SMS and MMS messages to your GMail account, and can restore SMS. It cannot restore MMS as of yet though.
Mr__KJ said:
- This is one of the aspects I was most interested in, at first of course only for the overclocking aspect, but then I read about the battery saving as well. Is there an easy way to switch back and forth between running the phone overclocked and underclocked?
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You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on what state the phone is in, such as screen on/off.
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' are regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
Mr__KJ said:
It looks more and more like I will root my phone right away as soon as I get the chance to sit down and do it!!
Thanks for clarifying those questions!
Yes I did mean my SMS and MMS conversations. Downloading that app right away
That sounds like an app I will definitely get then as soon as I get my phone rooted!
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Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
Mr__KJ said:
One last question for you though, do you happen to know what the 'dangers' str regarding phone/battery life when constantly switching CPU profiles?
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There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
ctomgee said:
Um, I said you DON'T need root for that app (SMS Backup+)....? Or were you talking about SetCPU? (which you DO need root)
There's always a danger when creating CPU profiles. Especially if you mess with the voltages assigned to each frequency. Just make sure you back your phone up before you mess with that stuff, so you have something to fall back to in case your tweaking causes the phone to not boot properly.
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I was talking about getting the SMS Backup + right away, which I already did.
And about the SetCPU as soon as I get my phone rooted.
Alright, yes backups are always an important thing to do. So we are talking more of software dangers though (not booting up correctly, stuff messing up or not launching, crashes etc.) rather than any hardware damage that could be caused?
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
Mr__KJ said:
Also, is there by any chance anyone who has a rooted Galaxy SII and can tell me some specific improvements about it compared to the unrooted version?
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Root won't improve anything on its own. Perhaps you should read some more about root and what it means before you go down this road.
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Oh now that I reread that I see what you mean. I am aware that the rooting it's self will not improve/worsen the performance of the phone or anything else.
I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
Sorry for the confusion!
There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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I more meant what kind of improvements can be made as soon as the device is rooted. Eg. the CPU tweaks and additional energy consumption differences and applications that can be run on the rooted device etc. and how these compare to the possibilites that one has with the stock phone.
!
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Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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There are far too many variables involved to give you an idea of the things you're asking. These will depend on the kernel you use, how you use the phone, how you set it up, under/overclocking/volting, and a bunch of other things.
You're only going to find out by actually doing.
But in saying that, I would advise against anything until you understand exactly what it is you want to do & how to do it. Doing so could save at least a few days trying to figure out how to fix a soft bricked phone, or ending up with a 130-odd gram paperweight at worst.
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Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
anguscmac said:
Hi, I've read this thread with interest, as when I got my sgs2 I didn't know that rooting was even possible! Another guy on my office got the same phone though, and asked if I was planning on rooting my phone. I guess I first did it with my eyes pretty well closed, but was lucky that everything went well.
One thing I would say is that I get much better battery life as there is endless scope for changing roms and kernels until you are happy. I've now upgraded to XXLPB on Simplistic Rom and am really happy. Great battery life and smooth performance, so no complaints. If I were you I would go for it, but make sure you do your research first!
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You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Give this a try for all the links need to root and the process - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488496
Mr__KJ said:
Thanks, you saying that helps me to see the many different ways in which I will be able to customize my phone if i root it.
Of course, I will not risk getting such an expensive paper weight! haha
You've got me convinced Rooting as soon as I get desktop access!!
Wow that sounds amazing! I'm looking forward to playing around with the different ROM's and kernels
Thank you everybody for the quick help in finding ways to root my phone and helping me answer all my questions so thoroughly!!
Keep it up community!!
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Hey good luck and have fun
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This will likely be a long post, so I'll start off with short summary:
After years of being excited about the android OS, I've now grown very tired of it and can't find a good solution to solve the issues.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and provide feedback and insight.
Background
I've been a web developer for ~15 years, even worked on a very popular android tablet before it was released. I currently have the title of "SDE" but I also deal with a lot of UI/UX work. I'm pretty tech savvy, love control, love to hack (eg my main machines are hackintoshes). I bought an EVO 3D shortly after it came out as it was dual core and had the most RAM. A friend is an android enthusiast and it sure seemed like android, while lacking polish, offered the flexibility and community for me to be able to have the level of polish I want.
Problems
Over the past year+ I haven't had much spare time. While other phones on other carriers are easy to root and mod, the EVO 3D on Sprint has been a PITA. My recent attempt at a custom PRL was a great example of how this "open" phone was more difficult to work with than a "locked" iPhone. There's been no easy way to root this phone and turn s-off. Yeah, I know there's two methods but both of them require more time than I have right now at any given time. And the bigger issue for me is that they're much bigger kludges than I think an "open" OS should be.
I waited for the ICS OTA update and am disappointed. While it solved some issues, it created more. And I feel like I've got both arms tied behind my back since almost any fix requires root. I hate reading that some of the fixes are in jelly bean, yet there's no easy way for me to upgrade.
Specific issues
- Llama doesn't work in ICS. I <3 Llama
- Battery usage is often horrible - yesterday I checked my email a couple times and the battery lasted all of 6 hours. I tried killing all tasks, but those who say that's useless since froyo are right. This issue keeps happening... it's like the CPU gets stuck at 100% for some reason.
- Network sucks. I don't understand why I can get 10Mb down and 2Mb up with speedtest.net, but the responsiveness of any app that uses the internet is sluggish. Even with my own tests on my own web servers, it' still sluggish. And latency is fairly low... seems like there might be a lot of packet loss for some reason.
- Camera sucks. The camera on my wife's EVO 4G works better but still sucks. All I've found here are threads confirming how much it sucks.
- App specific issues:
-- I have my sync settings set not to link contacts with LinkedIn, but it still frequently asks me anyway.
-- Contacts are duplicating: I had them all on my phone, and all synced via my gmail account. Then the other day it decides they're all different and duplicates my contacts.
- It unlocks itself. Sometimes I pull my phone out of my pocket and the phone is unlocked, even though I had a PIN set. I can use it for a minute or two, then suddenly I get greeted with a lock screen (or sometimes just half a lock screen.)
- I don't like having to set a lock screen in order to change the wifi password. Seems really odd to me. It wasn't like that in gingerbread.
I also have a hard time finding information. Seems like half of what I find doesn't apply to the EVO 3D, though may work for many other phones (even other HTC phones) and the bulk of the rest no longer works because of some other issue (or is just outdated.)
Anyway, I could go on, but I think you get the idea. If I had time, I'd see what I could to do contribute to a ROM project, but that just doesn't seem like it's in the cards right now. Am I just not a good fit for android? Is the bigger issue this phone? Would I actually be able to solve the above issues if I did go ahead and root it fully... perhaps with the wire method?
Thanks
Well I understand where you're coming from. Honestly, its personal preference. From my experience, once I went s-off and fully rooted it, it was so much better. A lot of the custom roms here are fantastic and blow stock out of the water. You can do so much more with root, and easily fix all of the problems that you have. Every. Single. One. It's all about just trying it, and if you don't like it, you can easily just try something new, that's the glory of it
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
blame the phone manufacturers and the carriers, not android... none of your problems actually seem like android ones
snokarver said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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Take a look at mpgrimm2's guide thread. That has a lot of good information.
ramjet73
snokarver said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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After you htcdev unlock, you need to flash a stock rom with root, I would try my rom, common sense v1.5 (stock) its in the link in my siggy, I did it on that and it worked just fine. Or you can flash a stock rooted rom that Virus posted up, its somewhere in the dev forum, once that's flashed you're good to go
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
Under all the glitz, Android runs on a Linux kernel.
Linux is very secure in that only the "root" account can make changes to vital system processes.
So yes, gaining root access is vital to making changes to your android device.
IMO, it is too easy to gain root in Android. It should be harder so all these noobs won't be on here f'ing up their phones.
sudo passwd root
I use *nix all day long. Was just running commands to modify permissions, using sudo, for git. Even in OS X gaining root access is fairly easy. But what you're telling me is, the only way to backup my ROM is to wipe it first with a ROM that is rooted? (In other words, no way to backup my ROM.)
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
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If you find the Su binaries, you can flash it via recovery via fastboot, right over the stock rom that you're running RIGHT NOW. I would google it, I don't have one off hand that I can attach for you.
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I found the su binaries, but haven't had any luck getting them installed. Every walkthrough I've found doesn't work. Tried to put a recovery on it, but that also won't go. One method requires root. The instructions for another said three button method but that doesn't seem to work on this phone...
You have to unlock the bootloader before trying to install recovery.
There are a bunch of guides. www.google.com
sudo passwd root
*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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Have you tried mpgrimm2's guide for flashing recovery and superuser? It's part of a larger thread that covers rooting, S-OFF, bootloaders and other stuff for the Evo 3D and I know he works hard at keeping it up-to-date.
I suggested that earlier in this thread, and if you can't find the answers you are looking for there I'd be surprised.
ramjet73
Thanks for the insistance on that thread. I tried CWM using that guide and it didn't work (wouldn't ever boot into CWM even though everything appeared to install ok). I tried 4ext using a 4ext guide and it didn't work. I tried 4ext using the same guide as you linked to which references CWM, and it did work.
BusyBox is saying it may not be rooted, but RootChecker says it is. At least now I think I'm far enough along to make a backup of the stock ROM. Thanks much
Launching BusyBox some more it seems to work fine. So far I've:
- Make a backup of the stock ROM
- Deleted the crapware
- Backed up my apps with TB
- Used SetCPU to lower the clockspeed when idle. Now I'm under 100ma when idle. Pre ICS I had a hard time getting under 300ma.
Thanks a bunch. Things are really looking up.
Nothing was the same after rooting my atrix.
-The HD games started to freeze, and on the worst cases crashing (e.g. GTA VC).
-Background apps (e.g. Gauge Battery Widget) rebooted very often (specially when browsing).
-When surfing multiple heavy pages, the browser tends to crash sometimes. Also when it crashes, it returns me to the start screen and if i have a live wallpaper running it stops and changes to a generic black screen.
-When trying to upload an image file on an image board, the browser refreshes the page.
-Overheats without reason from time to time. Seriously, its like a pocket heater.
-When the screen animations are activated, returning from landscape to vertical orientation turns the notification bar blurry and when i pull down the notifications tray it turns the screen blurry as well. Though it returns to normal when going back to landscape.
This is a major issue for me since if i turn off the screen animations, i can't tell if an app i opened is running (e.g. YouTube). And like i don't use the stock video player and use another player (e.g. MX player), when the animations are activated instantly crashes when opening a video.
Also before rooting, the battery only lasts me 5 hours without running apps and the problem persists ever since.
One thing. The first time i got the phone it came with stock FROYO 2.2.1 and i changed it right away to GINGERBREAD 2.3.6 skipping the 2.3.4, i unlocked the bootloader first and then rooted it.
Is there anything i can do to fix the problems previously mentioned?
I have a feeling you are an international user and did not flash the ramfix, search for it in development section, download to sd and flash.
jorno88 said:
I have a feeling you are an international user and did not flash the ramfix, search for it in development section, download to sd and flash.
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Every tutorial i looked for didn't mentioned that, i'll give it a try.
But if i do that, does it mean i will have to do a hard reset?
It is surely mentioned in subsequent posts in the tutorial thread.
RAM fix has nothing to do with data so factory reset (or hard reset as you call it) is not needed.
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It is surely mentioned in subsequent posts in the tutorial thread.
RAM fix has nothing to do with data so factory reset (or hard reset as you call it) is not needed.
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Not in the tutorials i've followed, they never mentioned it. FYI none of the tuts where from here.
Good to know i won't have to hard reset. So were does the zip go, internal or external?
always follow xda, it's the best
as for the zip, place it wherever you like and flash it with a custom recovery like cwm or twrp
Yeah I could never understand people who follow a tutorial on forum X then ask about it on forum Y... Makes no sense to me. Why are people on forum Y supposed to know anything about forum X or its contents?
Questions about a tutorial on some forum should be asked on that same forum.
And yeah, everything you need is on XDA, no need to go search for random sources.
Just to help the OP:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cu2bd61dh6ytzda/C-z3zfNBcr (just get the RAMfix.zip from this link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T9hJ4Yjek
Hope this helps OP. I have a At&t and I don't need to do the RAM fix. U can give this a shot. All the best.
5HoofedStallion said:
Not in the tutorials i've followed, they never mentioned it. FYI none of the tuts where from here.
Good to know i won't have to hard reset. So were does the zip go, internal or external?
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Ramfix may not be mentioned in root tutorials because it's related with unlocking bootloader. Since you first unlocked, then rooted, you'll have to flash it anyway.
GH0ST DR0NE said:
Just to help the OP:
Hope this helps OP. I have a At&t and I don't need to do the RAM fix. U can give this a shot. All the best.
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Off topic, but now that you brought the subject. I have seen this a while ago, and looks tempting but is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
saldirai said:
Ramfix may not be mentioned in root tutorials because it's related with unlocking bootloader. Since you first unlocked, then rooted, you'll have to flash it anyway.
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I followed both root and bootloader unlock tutorials and NONE brought that out. Since i'm LATAM, it made sense for me to seek in latin android forums instead here because of the firmwares, and boy they skip a lot of useful info in those forums.
Also, how do i exactly run the ramfix? Im eager to fix the buggy notification tray right away, that and fixing my battery not charging at 100%. I tried pulling the battery while charging and it turned worse, it went from 90% to 70%
I also need to know how to wipe the battery data from the CWM.
5HoofedStallion said:
... is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
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If it's running well for you, you should consider yourself very lucky. You should also read some of the threads concerning it and related ROMs (AtrICS etc) - the thing is so buggy very few people even wonder anymore how come it was never released.
Even if it's running so great for you as you say, I still wouldn't keep it if I were you. The ROM is a development build, it was never meant to be used as a daily driver. But that's just me.
5HoofedStallion said:
Off topic, but now that you brought the subject. I have seen this a while ago, and looks tempting but is it convenient for me to use the leaked ICS rom? Is there any bugs in it to be concerned about?
It's a shame that motorola decided to leave the atrix in the shadows with GB, they could at least made ICS the final and definitive update. I mean, the rom looks like it was 99% finished and ready to launch.
I followed both root and bootloader unlock tutorials and NONE brought that out. Since i'm LATAM, it made sense for me to seek in latin android forums instead here because of the firmwares, and boy they skip a lot of useful info in those forums.
Also, how do i exactly run the ramfix? Im eager to fix the buggy notification tray right away, that and fixing my battery not charging at 100%. I tried pulling the battery while charging and it turned worse, it went from 90% to 70%
I also need to know how to wipe the battery data from the CWM.
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I agree with u. But Motorola is infamous for such antics. One if the reasons I don't have a RaZr anymore. But it is running good. I will b honest. Its OK. This phone isn't made for anything but GB in mind. I would pick a low end, second hand Windows Phone any day over this.
But this is as far as it goes for Atrix. Jelly Bean...naah.
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How am i supposed to run the ramfix?
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It's a flashable zip so just install it like gapps or a rom. Install from sd card
Which are the commands on the atrix?
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Use a custom recovery... You can manually adjust the cmdline but flashing the zip is much easier
You mean, with the RSD Lite?
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Don't ever touch RSD, RSDLite or any SBF (except pudding) unless you're at gunpoint.
Then how the hell do i run ramfix on clockwork!?!
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Would do you good if you could learn to search and read. It's all explained many times...
Hint: CWM = ClockWorkMod recovery
Another hint: How do you usually use a flashable zip?