TV out and USB OTG? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Currently have the SGS 1 which has TV-out via 3.5mm but no USB OTG, so it can't read external drives.
Want to upgrade to the SGS 2 because it has USB OTG but from what I understand, the TV-OUT is via the same connector and not 3.5mm.
What I need to know is, will the SGS 2 read a movie off an external drive and output it to a TV at the same time ?

forcedv said:
Currently have the SGS 1 which has TV-out via 3.5mm but no USB OTG, so it can't read external drives.
Want to upgrade to the SGS 2 because it has USB OTG but from what I understand, the TV-OUT is via the same connector and not 3.5mm.
What I need to know is, will the SGS 2 read a movie off an external drive and output it to a TV at the same time ?
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No.
As you said, it uses the USB port to output the TV signal, so you can't read a drive at the same time. You'd obviously have to copy things you wanted to watch onto the SD card in the phone.
Incidentally, and much to my disdain, you have to take the battery out to insert the SD card, so no hot-swapping!

That's so frustrating as this device could finally have been the truly unlimited OTG multi media player.
For me, the SGS's are awesome multi media devices because they pretty much play any video with hardware accelerated support, so wasting time converting videos is a thing of the past , but now I'm still stuck with time and space wasting "transfer video to device" situation 
How many times have you had mates round and someone whips out a USB stick?
The SGS 2 (for me at least) going to replace large, clunky devices like Western Digital TV or Popcorn Hour media players, but I guess I'll have to wait for the SGS 3 

forcedv said:
That's so frustrating as this device could finally have been the truly unlimited OTG multi media player.
For me, the SGS's are awesome multi media devices because they pretty much play any video with hardware accelerated support, so wasting time converting videos is a thing of the past , but now I'm still stuck with time and space wasting "transfer video to device" situation 
How many times have you had mates round and someone whips out a USB stick?
The SGS 2 (for me at least) going to replace large, clunky devices like Western Digital TV or Popcorn Hour media players, but I guess I'll have to wait for the SGS 3 
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I know right!!!?!?! Why don't they just have a separate mini HDMI out port that will operate at the same time as the USB OTG does. So stupid Samsung. THINK MAN!

ZenInsight said:
I know right!!!?!?! Why don't they just have a separate mini HDMI out port that will operate at the same time as the USB OTG does. So stupid Samsung. THINK MAN!
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Why didn't they just added another micro USB Port? Just a Dual "USB OTG/MHL-HDMI/USB" Port lol
BTW: this would also allow faster Charge rates by using both ports LOL (the reason for the slow Charging is the USB-Port, wich has a Max current of 0.5 Amps or so, i guess...)

Sorrow1994 said:
Why didn't they just added another micro USB Port? Just a Dual "USB OTG/MHL-HDMI/USB" Port lol
BTW: this would also allow faster Charge rates by using both ports LOL (the reason for the slow Charging is the USB-Port, wich has a Max current of 0.5 Amps or so, i guess...)
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Here is my dream. SGS 3 with a separate hdmi port, waterproof, 1280x720...or the 16:9 equivalent... screen (4.65"), NFC, and may be a keyboard (I still like them but I guess I could live without...a keyboard would let me use a gamegripper directly on the phone like I have for my Samsung Epic).
That would be the ULTIMATE phone.
oh..and makes pancakes...

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What is the full size USB for?

Just wondering what can be done with the full size USB port. I've connected two cameras and my Droid X too it and none were recognized as mass storage devices. The only use I have found for it so far is that it can charge my phone. I would love to be able to be able plug in my camera (Sony, not SD card) and dump them on to it where ever I am for editing or uploading.
Thanks
Keyboards usually work right out of the box, so that can be a nice feature. Also, I think hard drives can be hooked up, but the tablet can't really power them, so they have to be connected via a powered hub. I think thumb drives/flash drives work as well, but I haven't tried them.
For me, being able to easily get a cheap, generic keyboard working has been a very nice feature of the tablet.
I believe I recall reading that you can use it for USB GPS receivers as well. I have not tried it myself.
ahhh a Keyboard, that would be a nice addition. Now that I think about it I am going to see if my bluetooth keyboard will work (don't have a USB one)
GPS is something I am missing more than I would have expected on a tablet
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
noechelon said:
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
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That is what I use it for as well.
Anyone had success making USB controllers work for emulators? Seen the wiimote bluetooth setup, but I don't have a wiimote.
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Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
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I also have an 'official Malata' USB to ethernet on the way for review to see if I can get it to work and see if there would be any interest for us in the States. I should have the demo today and will report back any findings?
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
doctorisin said:
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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Have you tried tethering to your phone? I used my MyTouch 4g hotspot feature at two diners this past weekend and it worked well.
Wondering about the usb nic driver, is it provided with the usb nic ? or do we need someone to develop one ? Ive had a quick look on ebay and can see a few of these available, naturally none of them are official Malata' USB to ethernet. so that raises the question of using none Malata ones ?
I use it for a flash drive too.
The issue is that I copied mp3 from the flash drive to the g-tab..and when I use File Explorer I can see and play the songs, but in the Music app they dont show up.
320 external hard drive
Hello. I am looking to buy a 320 GB hard drive for my gtab. I am wanting to buy the Western Digital My passport essential. Do you think this will work with the USB on this device? It is usb powered. Thanks.
the tab usb will not power a standard hd
Anybody ever tried a USB TV Receiver? I'm doubting it would work, but would be cool...
I was looking to use the usb port to load pictures from my camera's sd cards via a card reader onto the tablet when I travel. Saves me from taking my laptop with me. I can do everything I need with a smaller device like a tablet now. (Might have to save them back on a flashdrive though in case the Gtab decides to delete your pictures...)
And I guess you can always use the the port for your USB Pet Rock. (thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/c208)
Neoprimal said:
It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
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This poster says their 320 GB hard drive is powered by it. So will the 320 GB western digital essentials be powered by it?

Missing feature, Active Noise cancellation with dedicated mic?

EDIT: nvm, the active noise cancellation feature was missing from gsmarena's site in the spec but its now there, I suppose maybe thanks to the preview.
anyway, anyone knows why NFC is listed as (optional) in gsmarena's web?
also, the diff between MHL and HDMI right now is that MHL connected to non mhl enabled tvs just doesnt charge the phone like regular HDMI does, right?
MHL outputs at 720P,1080P or WVGA? meaning, if I screen a WVGA movie, will it upscale it to 1080P? (therefore causing bad effects)?
OHDUSER said:
anyway, anyone knows why NFC is listed as (optional) in gsmarena's web?
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Because NFC isn't available in some regions.
OHDUSER said:
also, the diff between MHL and HDMI right now is that MHL connected to non mhl enabled tvs just doesnt charge the phone like regular HDMI does, right?
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Right, and it has the microUSB functions as well.
so with non mhl enabled tvs it wont charge the phone. but will still outputs HD to any HDMI enabled TV, right?
OHDUSER said:
so with non mhl enabled tvs it wont charge the phone. but will still outputs HD to any HDMI enabled TV, right?
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Yes, that's right. But there is also an adapter that allows you to connect a micro USB cable to, so you can charge your phone at the same time. (You can connect a micro usb cable and a hdmi cable at the same time with that adapter)
oh so its has 2 ports, 1 for usb 1 for HDMI on the other side of the cable?
nice...
OHDUSER said:
oh so its has 2 ports, 1 for usb 1 for HDMI on the other side of the cable?
nice...
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Yep, the micro usb to HDMI has two ports, one micro USB port (for charging) and one HDMI port.
Yes, that the little adapter that Samsung wants you to buy for $29.99. (Just a guesstimated cost)
LOL I don mind paying even 50$ for that cable.. its worth it.. I watch series on a weekly basis and it will be fun watching it on my TV
does anyone know if there is notification light on SGS2. I really hate Samsung for NOT puting any outside notification lighs on any phone.
I will miss it when I buy SGS2 (now I'm on N1 and the trackball light is great)
No there are no LED notifications on this device. Its been discussed multiple times over multiple threads.
It would be great to have it, but it doesnt. Lets move on.

[Q] TV-out

Hello XDA,
Bit of a question; my SGS did support TV-out, so I could put it on a TV, OR.... hook it up with a capture card for easy screen recording.
Does the SGS III support this too? I do have the cable for it, although it being for a JVC camcorder and a bit to short. And if not, any other way to do it either doing it in a similar manner or software. And else, any ROM which supports it? ;p
Thanks in advance,
Edit: I do have a SD capture card, MAY be upgrading to a HD one in the future which will record HDMI. For that I can get an MHL connector thingamajig,
To my knowledge the SD-output has been removed and only HDMI remains.
However there are adapters capable of converting HDMI to VGA or SD signals, they tend to be around 20 bucks and some don't need an external power supply to work (e.g. I got one such from LIGAWO for my Laptop)
Since I never tried it on the S3 (don't have a MHL) I dont know if it has sufficiently high output current on the HDMI port (0.5Amp)

[Q] DROID DNA MicroUSB Port 11-pin? 5-pin?

Okay I have asked around everywhere I can, and I can not get a straight answer from anyone. I would really like to get to the bottom of this if possible. It is my final deciding factor on if I buy this device or the Galaxy Note 2.
I want to know how many pins the HTC Droid DNA has in the MicroUSB Port. I am asking because I want the phone to be able to handle both HDMI out + OTG at the same time. The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 has an 11-pin port which when used with the Samsung Smart Dock allows simultaneous HDMI + OTG. If it does ill buy the DNA + the Smart Dock and get the best of both!
Please let me know!
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As there is no mention of HDMI support of any kind (and the USB port comes covered, as they want you to use wireless charging) my inclination is no. That it'll only support pure USB (5-pin)
yes it does...
According to this line on phonearena.com... phonearena.com/phones/HTC-DROID-DNA_id7498_ (sorry not sure if we're allowed to post specific links or not), yes, the Droid DNA micro USB is capable of sending an HDMI out signal.
Under Specs...
Pros
Quad core processor
Very fast processor (1500 MHz)
Lots of RAM (2048 MB RAM)
Very big display (5 inches)
Extremely high pixel density screen, over 300ppi (441 ppi)
High-resolution display (1080 x 1920 pixels)
High-resolution camera (8 megapixels)
Dual-mode CDMA/GSM phone
NFC
HDMI connector for TV-out (via microUSB)
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clydefrog187 said:
According to this line on phonearena.com... phonearena.com/phones/HTC-DROID-DNA_id7498_ (sorry not sure if we're allowed to post specific links or not), yes, the Droid DNA micro USB is capable of sending an HDMI out signal.
Under Specs...
Pros
Quad core processor
Very fast processor (1500 MHz)
Lots of RAM (2048 MB RAM)
Very big display (5 inches)
Extremely high pixel density screen, over 300ppi (441 ppi)
High-resolution display (1080 x 1920 pixels)
High-resolution camera (8 megapixels)
Dual-mode CDMA/GSM phone
NFC
HDMI connector for TV-out (via microUSB)
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Wow why can no one answer my question. Of course it handles HDMI out I knew that like a week ago. How does no on care about the phone being able to do both HDMI + OTG at the SAME TIME. What the hell do I have to do to get a straight answer? I want to know, how many pins the MicroUSB port has in it, 5 ? or 11? 11 Means that you can use the phone essentially as a portable computer and not only hook it up to your flatscreen but also run an external flash/hard drive, charge, use a usb hub, use mouse & keyboard, ETC. Out of this many people with Android smartphones how is it that only like 10 care if a device has this capability.
HDMI + OTG SIMULTANEOUS YES OR NO ? ANYONE? PLEASE!
ohiwastedmylife said:
Wow why can no one answer my question. Of course it handles HDMI out I knew that like a week ago. How does no on care about the phone being able to do both HDMI + OTG at the SAME TIME. What the hell do I have to do to get a straight answer? I want to know, how many pins the MicroUSB port has in it, 5 ? or 11? 11 Means that you can use the phone essentially as a portable computer and not only hook it up to your flatscreen but also run an external flash/hard drive, charge, use a usb hub, use mouse & keyboard, ETC. Out of this many people with Android smartphones how is it that only like 10 care if a device has this capability.
HDMI + OTG SIMULTANEOUS YES OR NO ? ANYONE? PLEASE!
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I guess because the rest of us have media servers, xbox's, bluray players and roku boxes for watching stuff on our televisions...
Been using smartphones for a long time, never tried to do all that. The only reason I would hdmi out my phone is home videos and YouTube.
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ohiwastedmylife said:
Wow why can no one answer my question. Of course it handles HDMI out I knew that like a week ago. How does no on care about the phone being able to do both HDMI + OTG at the SAME TIME. What the hell do I have to do to get a straight answer? I want to know, how many pins the MicroUSB port has in it, 5 ? or 11? 11 Means that you can use the phone essentially as a portable computer and not only hook it up to your flatscreen but also run an external flash/hard drive, charge, use a usb hub, use mouse & keyboard, ETC. Out of this many people with Android smartphones how is it that only like 10 care if a device has this capability.
HDMI + OTG SIMULTANEOUS YES OR NO ? ANYONE? PLEASE!
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While we're on the subject of wireless, we should note that the Droid DNA also features dual-band 802.11a/b/g/n, NFC and compatibility with HTC's Media Link HD for wireless HDMI mirroring.
If you don't mind going the wired route, a MHL adapter will easily work here in its place. Sadly, USB OTG isn't officially supported.
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source: engadget
Not sure that answers your question specifically, but maybe indirectly?
I believe the HTC Droid DNA has a 5 pin layout. I just bought it today, and I can see that it has 5 pins on the center piece, just like my Samsung Galaxy S2, which I know is a 5 pin layout for MHL.
nrfitchett4 said:
I guess because the rest of us have media servers, xbox's, bluray players and roku boxes for watching stuff on our televisions...
Been using smartphones for a long time, never tried to do all that. The only reason I would hdmi out my phone is home videos and YouTube.
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Did you even read the OPs post before responding?? How 'bout his follow up questions??
He wants to know if the phone has USB OTG technology. As in 'can it read a flash drive?'
He's addressing the exact same question that you tried to offer to my comment in another thread, but it appears your reply to that thread was misinformed.
Do you actually put any thought into your replies, or are you simply trying to get the high score on post count??
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ohiwastedmylife said:
Okay I have asked around everywhere I can, and I can not get a straight answer from anyone. I would really like to get to the bottom of this if possible. It is my final deciding factor on if I buy this device or the Galaxy Note 2.
I want to know how many pins the HTC Droid DNA has in the MicroUSB Port. I am asking because I want the phone to be able to handle both HDMI out + OTG at the same time. The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 has an 11-pin port which when used with the Samsung Smart Dock allows simultaneous HDMI + OTG. If it does ill buy the DNA + the Smart Dock and get the best of both!
Please let me know!
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-droid-dna/226091-usb-otg-not-officially-supported.html
I am also waiting to receive my DNA in the mail, then I will order some OTG and MHLs to test with my hub. Unless you find the answer b4 then.
ohiwastedmylife said:
Okay I have asked around everywhere I can, and I can not get a straight answer from anyone. I would really like to get to the bottom of this if possible. It is my final deciding factor on if I buy this device or the Galaxy Note 2.
I want to know how many pins the HTC Droid DNA has in the MicroUSB Port. I am asking because I want the phone to be able to handle both HDMI out + OTG at the same time. The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 has an 11-pin port which when used with the Samsung Smart Dock allows simultaneous HDMI + OTG. If it does ill buy the DNA + the Smart Dock and get the best of both!
Please let me know!
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Not the best pics, but does this help?
I am using a 4 port hub but built cable to otg and plug into HTC bb g600 for power so it doesn't drain power from the DNA. My first attempt is successful in powering usb device and transfering data rather quick compared to using the DNA for power. I have a cable on order that will allow me to otg and plug charger in to charge phone since the built one didn't come from HTC it won't charge it. Don't know if this is useful to anyone else but me, but it does resolve needing external power plugged to wall or laptop etc. Still not sure how many pins. It does power a thumb drive just with otg cable and 32 gig sd plugged to usb adapter but I don't like the draw it has on battery performance without battery pack.
Ps...hdmi adapter on way as well so will let know if otg plus hdmi work together.
Pss... I know the hdmi adapter works on DNA still haven't tested both at same time will post this evening.
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MHL or USB-C video support?

I know this is not a popular feature these days, but I figure I would ask. Does this support any sort of video output via a cable? MHL dongle, USB-C to HDMI dongle, etc.
I would love to hook it up to a TV to play emulator games with no input lag.
Sorry I can not answer your question but I got to say that usb-c video out is criminally underrated. It is such an amazing and hassle free feature. I really hope it catches on. If you ask me its because for some reason its not advertised. I only know about it because I Googled it out of curiosity. 2 days and $15 later I had one of my own.
Clyzm said:
I know this is not a popular feature these days, but I figure I would ask. Does this support any sort of video output via a cable? MHL dongle, USB-C to HDMI dongle, etc.
I would love to hook it up to a TV to play emulator games with no input lag.
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I would love to have this feature too. Would love to run something like Sentio Desktop or better still MIUI Desktop Mode (once they implement it). I would even buy this phone solely for this purpose.
I have the same question, can we use a cable usb c to hdmi in order to connect poco f1 to a tv.
The snapdragon 845 doas support it so it should work
But it doesn't work on some Sony smartphones with the supported soc
bro to clarify, actually usb type c is 3.0 port, and it does support reverse charging, dex, audio peripherals etc (according to USB corporation). but midrange and budget flagships like poco, oneplus does not provide 3.0 connectivity via those ports. they put a c type look-a-like port but it is micro usb wiring done on board. you can charge using any type c branded cable and transfer data but at 2.0 speed and the features you asked may not work. only limited manufacturers like lg, sony, samsung only provide real type c 3.0 or 3.1 port connectivity.
hope this clarifies something.
Gregbmil1 said:
Sorry I can not answer your question but I got to say that usb-c video out is criminally underrated. It is such an amazing and hassle free feature. I really hope it catches on. If you ask me its because for some reason its not advertised. I only know about it because I Googled it out of curiosity. 2 days and $15 later I had one of my own.
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Does it work on Poco?
USB C video doesn't work. Already tested. There's already a thread and few users like me tested with such accessories. MHL also doesn't work (not tested by me but some other user) search general section.
I wonder if it can be enabled by software, though. There are much older phones without USB-C that can do it. Shouldn't USB 2 provide enough bandwidth?
JeffPotatoBubble said:
I wonder if it can be enabled by software, though. There are much older phones without USB-C that can do it. Shouldn't USB 2 provide enough bandwidth?
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As far as I understand it's a hardware issue, as in the hardware doesn't support it. I'm sure the USB type C port is just for charging and file transfer at USB 2.0 speeds

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