Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
borgqueenx said:
Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
Sent in 3D fashion
I have play with both phones, and owned a iPhone 4 for a good time, yet the LG phones has higher benckmarks but in reaility doesn't mean much , just to let you know gingerbread update wich is what is the EVO running is no taking advantage on the duel cores yet, been said that i think the EVO 3d is for you, HTC sense does take ablot space but is make for the new user in mind you won't have trouble at all coming from the iPhone , battery life in Android is no as good as the iPhone but the EVO 3D doesn't have a bad battery life tho, keyboard the comes with the 3d is really good multitouch but iphones still better by hair lol, and the browser is really good and matches to the iPhone as well, camera you will miss it, no for nothing.but the sensor on the iPhone 4 is the best one in the states, the screen being bigger you will ask yourself how come apple haven't done this yet, so much better to read and watch videos , and if you like browse the web in your phone you will love it, I think the 3D is a better customer experience and you will have a blast from it, I have some friends the I convince to get some great Android phones and they love it so far, apps are getting much better now that what it was a year ago and they take less space then ios apps do so don't freak out with 1gb of memory you still have a SD card to tansfer your apps too and can upgrade to 32 gb SD card , I hope this helps on your decision
From my EVO 3D
Ruki_Uki said:
The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
Sent in 3D fashion
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hmm can you take some photo's and see how many pixels they are so we know the resolution?
if you turn the 3ds all the way up, and look at a 3d game on your evo3d? wich has more depth? ofcource the 3ds got crap resolution, i already know that
Guess it depends on just what it is your looking for in a phone. Being as your coming frome a iPhone 4 I guess it comes down to Android/HTC Sense vs iOS. Because hardware wise you won't see any improvement. Actually it's really a downgrade from the iPhone 4 which has a better screen, better camera, and battery life. Also way more apps and a better gaming experience. Only thing the 3D has over it would be the larger screen and the 3D feature which is gimmicky IMO. The dual core doesn't come into play because Gingerbread nor any Android apps utilize it. Now OS wise I would have to give the edge to Android with it being more open and easier to customize than iOS which is why I love it. Now in the case of the 3D that openness won't be on display until it gets full root/S-Off/unlocked bootloader/custom kernels but that is coming eventually. So I guess you have to decide whether you want to stick with iOS or Android. The 3D while a great phone right now isn't the phone that really shows off what Android can do when compared to iOS. Now when they finally break the shackles that HTC/Sprint put on it and hang around here a little longer, than you will see what Android/3D really has to offer. Then again it looks like Apple stole a bunch of things from Android and put it into the new iOS 5 and from the rumors the iPhone 5 looks to be a beast spec-wise so maybe you should wait around for that to drop.
I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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*rolls eyes*
Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
klbjr said:
What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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i do like my iphone 4's screen ALOT. before the iphone 4 i had the 3gs wich was huge screen upgrade. but will since apple broke their routine of a new iphone each year at desame time, im looking at android. i didnt purchase to many apps so switching is not hard. but im wondering if the downgrade of the screen is going to be big? i mean i ofcource like my iphone 4's screen vs the 3gs. but the screen of the optimus and evo3d are also still alot better then the 3gs. i also like my ipad2's screen(dpi). if the evo3d and the optimus3d got a fair amount of more dpi i probaly dont really mind the downgrade.
Next the iphone4's camera. yes, i love the quality of colors ect this thing makes. but im a sucker for functionality. 3d photo's man...thats super cool. but i do like quality. if the photo's are somewhere near the iphone 4thats okay already. i just dont want pixelated photo's like the 3ds makes haha.
the thing i really am afraid of is the evo3d getting ****. ive heard alot bad stuff about it even on this forum...returned because of dead pixels, bugs, flaws...i also heard the optimus3d is faster because it has the cortex9 instead of the older cortex8.
Things i like alot about the evo3d is its sense menu...i loved that way back on my touch diamond(although the touch diamond is garbage), its design, its led for notification about email and texts, and ofcource its 3d.
but well everyone says i need to choose the optimus over the evo3d for its 3d screen. i dont really care about the 3d games and menu's right now because maybe the menu of the optimus3d can be ripped out in the future...but else i also believe the markerplace will be slowly filled up with 3d goodies. i want to know the sweet spot of the 3d games...can i use it with accelerometer driving, wont the effect be ****ty when i have 2 thumbs on the screen when playing NOVA...and it seems everyone thinks and says the optimus3d got more depth then the evo3d.
about the optimus3d i like that it seems to be alot faster because its a cortex9...it has 8gb memory build in wich is a nice extra, and well again...the 3d is better. and ofcource the menu...but i hope its going to be ripped sometime so the htc evo3d users can have it as well...
It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
ExploreMN said:
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Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
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It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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Fair enough..everyone has a right to their opinion..but i do believe if u put sense 3.0 on the iphone 4 it would struggle and lag just like a lot of phones do..ios is streamlined and simple..if you enjoy that that's great..and if it doesn't change much the new iPhone won't really need extra power..
What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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If a developer ports a sense like ROM to the phone yes...
3D > iClone
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
3D > iClone
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
3D > iClone
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That's actually to male apps and it doesn't give you the base, is an sdk to make apps just like the one for ios the apple provides , cyanogen tweet it about that too
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Has sense been port/ripped to another non-htc android device before?
Maybe there are alternatives with desame look?
carrier unlocking
hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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Sorry but that would be a no. From my understanding Sprint uses CDMA & no SIM card so you just can't unlock & swap SIMs like you can with GSM phones. I heard they may be releasing a 3D or something similar, to European carriers, as seeing the 3D is supposedly a Sprint exclusive. You could try the Sensation, it is pretty much the same phone just minus the 3D capabilities & 768MB of RAM as opposed to 1GB in the 3D. The only carriers I've ever heard of people being able to port over to Sprint phones were Cricket Wireless & Metro PCS, but they are also US carriers.
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I know I'll get a bunch of flamers for this and that's to be expected but after having this phone for a lil over a week now, I'm just not as impressed as I thought I would be. Idk, maybe not being able to flash ROMS & do some of the same things I could with my Evo & Epic, but this phone isn't all that mind blowing like I thought it would be. It's defitinely faster/quicker, I can't take that away from it, but thats about it. The screen difference isn't all that noticibale when compared to the OG Evo and still not as crisp or vibrant as the Epic imo. The camera is a improvement but also not by much. 3D is a fad, much like 3D TV's are. I think a Retina-like screen would have been a better feature. The new Sense is nice but it didn't add much over the previous one, plus we had it on the OG Evo. I'll probably keep it anyway and just upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Nexus Prime if they come to Sprint, but just wanted to see if there is anybody else out there who feel like I do.
Not with you either
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Not with u either the speed of this phone is just amazing and i can't stop playing with the Camera lol
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To each their own - I for one love it, and am VERY happy that I ditched that Damn iPhone for the Droid (have a Xoom as well). Im not really sure I see the need to post that you dont like the phone, like anything in the world - Some people will like it and some wont. You cant argue the overall power of this phone, the 3D is cool - but this phone is worth it if you dont use it for 3D at all.... My Wife loves her too - So much that shes going make me live with the damn Sprint Data speeds, she refused to take her 3D back.
You went from an already fast phone, to a dual core version of the same phone with added RAM and a 3D capable screen (in a nutshell). You wouldn't see a major difference. It's like going from a 2 GHz PC to a 3 GHz PC. Sure you have two cores available now, but for your standard functionality, you won't see much of a change. And comparing it to a super AMOLED screen, well, the phone's specs were published beforehand. I never quite expected it to be as crisp as my Wife's Epic, but I love it anyhow.
For me, buying this phone was a hardware upgrade. 3D is a nice extra. Also, I sold my Evo just prior to launch of the 3D for more than enough to buy the phone w/accessories, so why not?
Now, if you were coming from a Hero or something of that nature, then of course the upgrade would be night and day.
I'm very impressed. But I'm coming from a Hero that I hated from day 1, not an EVO 4G. I agree that 3D still seems gimmicky and hurts my eyes after a while but I'm even slowly starting to like it more too.
I've had over 5 single core 1ghz phones
Two of whitch had AMOLED screens
(vibrant and nexus s) and I don't like the fake "vibrant" colors that LED screens have..
And a dual core. (G2X)
I agree with not "feeling" the power for the extra core.. but I also disagree because its the future... Ice cream in Q4 baby!
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i hope your right; and sprint gets it out to us quickly
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Well coming from tmobile with a Sammy vibrant
We didn't get 2.2 till Christmas after they said early October... So anything is faster than that
Plus didn't sprint/htc get updates to the 4G pretty fast?
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I understand the OP. I'm 50/50 whether I keep it or return for SGS2. It's going to sit deactivated until I decide. My fully rooted OG EVO with a custom ROM is preferable to the 3D right now.
But yeah, for months of build up it was kind of a let down from the OG EVO although I think that's our fault. It's very relative. I was hoping for a great camera and now I don't trust HTC...meh.
I'm really liking this phone. The battery life is good, the display is nice, as great horsepower. I get this strange popping every once and awhile when using the headphone jack... But other than that, I'm liking things in HTC Country. I stayed in Samsungville for over a year, I'm not going back for even a more powerful phone.
I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The phone has grown on me over the past week..I think we will see what this thing can do with future software.. I mean my og EVO oc/d and rommed scrolled.fast. etc..but the gpu is several times proved and we will be able.to run future programs when the og EVO will struggle
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I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The 3d doesn't look like a hologram unless you move your display to a different angle..
It's a "glasses off 3d" technology If you knew anything about 3d you would know that you need 3 view points to produce and view 3d in the proper form it was intended...
To expect a **** to pop out and slap you in the face is a little much considering its a ****ing PHONE!
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faster than most
Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the phone in any way. It's definitely faster and a nice upgrade from my OG Evo. I guess its like somebody else posted, I let my expectations get the better of me. The speed is undeniable, granted I never tried CM or any of the other AOSP ROMS long enough to compare speed/quickness but Myn's, Virus' & Mik's ROMS were pretty fast to me. The 3D is ok if your into that stuff but its a gimmick at best. I own a 3D TV & maybe have watch 2 or 3 movies in 3D. Got it because of the clarity & beauty of the LED. 3D was a extra. Now if they had added a Retnia or comparable screen then we would have something to talk about but this screen isn't any noticeably better than the screen on the OG Evo. Battery life is better than the OG Evo had at its launch but once I got my 3500 Seidio & SBC kernel, battery life didn't matter. I got 2 days on a single charge. Can't really bring Sense into it because we have Sense 3 on the OG Evo also. I guess maybe once we get full root & S-Off and can start really unlocking what the phone can do, my opinion will change but right now its not any better, actually below the OG Evo in functionality & fun. Imo right now I don't see anything this phone does any better than its predecessor.
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Coming from the Hero, this is a HUGE upgrade. Compared to my wife's OG Evo....not so much, until you look 6 months down the road. I think then we'll see the OG Evo's shortcomings. As the apps get bigger and graphically better and we have custom roms running on the 3D I think it will really seperate itself from all of it's predecessors.
See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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I played with one at a sprint store. It was okay. The screen itself and design was worth it but I don't care much for the 3d feature. But who knows maybe it will grow. I'm not eligible for an upgrade till October. So I will see what comes till than.
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See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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And the douches come out to play.....Been here a lot longer than you buddy. On my 6th Android phone & can't count how many Windows phones before them. When you get some experience under your belt than maybe your opinion will count but until then go troll somewhere else.
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I hope you realize what you're saying about the screen..
"Retina Display" = Apple's name for a 960x540 resolution. The reason it looks a little better is because it's more pixels crammed into a smaller screen.
I'd take a 4.3 over it anyday.
I came from the Epic, and really really like both phones. I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
Hi I've been sneaking into this forum every so often. I have a s2 and love it but also love technology so looking now at 3d i've looked at evo and lgs version but don't know if it's worth the update to 3d. I also love sense and on some reviews the evo is flawless in speed..
What do you users think?
What score does it get on quadrant
Also if you take a picture or video in 3d can it be converted back to 2d for printing and viewing on pc
Thanks in advance
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Hi I've been sneaking into this forum every so often. I have a s2 and love it but also love technology so looking now at 3d i've looked at evo and lgs version but don't know if it's worth the update to 3d. I also love sense and on some reviews the evo is flawless in speed..
What do you users think?
What score does it get on quadrant
Also if you take a picture or video in 3d can it be converted back to 2d for printing and viewing on pc
Thanks in advance
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All pictures can be viewed in 2D as well and it usually asks to convert to 2D when emailing. Not sure about the video, I do not take much video in 3D.
SGS2 scores higher in Quad but that is really nothing to go by.
Evo 3D camera shutter lag is torture and makes any moving object impossible to shoot. I am looking forward to the better camera on the SGS2.
Either way, they are both top of the line devices and you can't go wrong with either.
You also have to think, we are EVO 3D owners and are excited to try something new. It doesn't mean the SGS2 will be better for us, I think at this point we are just hoping it is. We will know for sure come next week though.
i always had good experiences with samsung phones...
until they started making "smart phones"... they aren't very smart about it.
the phone has great hardware, yes. but samsung phones lack the support that HTC has from them to us (the consumers). HTC is ALWAYS right on top of problems that arise, while samsung is a little more like sprint in the customer service department. kind of like "if somebody complains, we'll deal with it. if not, whatever."
I have owned 4 samsung phones. three of them were flawless and perfect. the most recent, however, was a samsung moment. that thing was a nightmare. and i got no help from sprint or samsung with it.
stick with google nexus phones, or HTC. that is my new mode now. and i love the hell out of my 3D by the way. nothing this thing can't handle, and it will only get better as more software is dev'd for it in the hacking community.
**edit... to the OP, it is extremely important that you remember this one thing... the software inside the phone is just as important to the performance as the hardware...
I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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Can you please give more detail.....What makes the 3D more fun? How do the screens compare? Is the Evo's qhd display overshadowed by the Super Amoled Plus screen even though it has a lower res? Does the SGS2's camera have the shutter lag like the 3D?
The UI is just enjoyable on the e3d. And its very fast ..the differences in that regard is neglible..quadrant is useless except for fps and for evaluating your own phone after flashing a rom etc. The shutter lag isn't terrible it just isn't instant and I'm sure it will be improved with an update eventually ..I for one have taken nice shots with the e3d but yes fast moving objects can be hard to capture but most smartphones suffer from that ..either way you would have a super phone and def ahead of the curve ..software has a ways to go to catch up to the hardware within these devices
I actually love the SGS2. I got one in Mid June or July as the EVO 3D wasn't available here in Asia yet. I have no regret in getting the SGS2 first as it's one POWERFUL phone. But I bought the EVO 3D just last week and REALLY ENJOYING the built, solidness, and the 3D features. I love watching 3D Youtube even though it looks like it's damaging my eyes LOL! But if you were to read text alot, the EVO 3D is sharper as it has a higher resolution. Colors aren't comparable to the SGS2 due to the super amoled plus display. So you can't go wrong with either of them. Both has different features, etc. I just can't pass up the idea of not having both of them as it won't be fair to one or the other
i dont like the colors on the amoleds. yeah blacks are great but but the other colors kill me. the whites on my evo3d shine compare to my nexus.
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I'm a sense lover, so the EVO 3d fits my needs well. I'm also easily satisfied, and as long as it does what I want it to do, I'm good. I live in big city where 4G is ubiquitous and fast, tho I'm mostly on 3g to save battery. Whenever I need to download large files or watch youtube vids tho, 4G always does me good.
I have yet to mess with my phone, so everything is stock. Sense UI is pretty, but also fast. I do a lot on my phone as I'm mostly away from my computer. From online banking to watching movies, to playing games, to navigating the city, to listening to streaming music, and much more. This phone makes it all happen.
I know if I had the sgs2, I'd be doing the same things on it, and be raving about it as well. But I have this phone, so I make the best of it.
3d is awesome to me. People are always delighted to see it. And it gives the phone a special niche. At first tho, my eyes did hurt after prolong viewing, but I can honestly say after almost 3 months of having the device, my eyes don't hurt anymore. It's like evolution. My eyes have adjusted to it.
The only thing I hate abt he EVO 3d is that while charging, it slows down. I feel the difference. Its like night and day. Other than that, its an awesome Android phone, and as long as you don't have hardware or software related problems with the phone, its a very delightful and enjoyable experience.
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I have both I decided why do I have to choose someday I pop the sim in the evo somedays the galaxy s2, beautiful screen very then and fast, but I gotta admit I have little more fun playing with the evo 3d.
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I also have both. I got the S2 about 8 weeks ago and love it but I was torn between it and the sensation at the time. So when the Evo 3d was launched here in Canada I broke down last week and pick it up. Both phones are great.
I see a lot of people hate the Evo 3D .....why? Alot of people are trading them for the Photon and i don't understand y.....
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The reason I keep hearing is the updates. I dunno personally, I got mine on launch day and never did a update. The other thing I suspect is most best buy/radioshack think it dosn't have hdmi out. Mostly I think it is poor salesmen who think the only feature of the phone is the 3d.
It is what it is.... People have their own reasons for not liking the evo 3d just like anything else. You got your evo 3d so just have fun with it.
It's the tech-train playa. People come and go so they can stay on the cutting edge of hardware progression. It was the same when I was with the Hero.
Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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You and me both!!
But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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Totally agree!
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Im happy with my Evo.. in my personal opinion the only thing that the phone is missing is sense 3.5...
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i love my evo 3d but another reason would be the lack of content especially when compared to optimus 3d/thrill 4g
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But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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I agree with u on the whole sense pulling to much from that phone making it lag.it suppose to b a beast but yet it doesn't feel near as quick or sharp as let say et4g or photon.I believe that's another reason it gets passed up.n the 3d camera is kool but when it comes down to it u can't share 3d pics with non 3d phones n so it just basically a 5mp camera with a dual core that feels sluggish cause of sense.
So people just overlook its features cause I believe it doesn't feel like the great phone that it is.I hope when they make the new evo they will make it king of the hill with a better optimized sense.
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I dont see where people feel lag on the evo3d. After about a month of using a evo3d, downgrading back to a evo4g or nexus is almost unbearable. As for the photon, that UI feels laggy straight out of the box. As for sense, the real world doesnt like plain android. This is why everyphone has something covering it up. The evo3d is a powerhouse, so is the epic touch. I guess u can say the newer sg2s are to since they are about the same as the 3d.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!!
I never liked the feel of the EVO4g or the low screen resolution. Phone never felt good to me. I love the 3d because of the tall screen and the qhd and fast processor. I kept my hero when I got my 1 year upgrade on sero because I did not like the EVO4g. And I was the first person to get a consumer hero shipped from Sprint
Sense blows, I run viperrom with adw in the foreground and after a while sense turns itself off
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I honestly think it all depends on the phone you had previously. I had a samsung entro, which was just a regular qwerty texting phone. Upgrading to the evo 3d blew my mind. The entro took about 30 mins to boot up, my evo take 20 seconds.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!![/QUOT
True, the photon does have a great radio but bars dont mean anything. My evo4g lokks like it gets better signal than my 3d but i can stream youtube on the 3d and can even gwt a video pic on my 4g.
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I just rolled w/ the Photon for a week and I hated every second of it.
The phone runs stupidly; even w/ the removal of Blur and such; you CANNOT remove all the Moto crap without crippling your phone (see: contact fcs after you try and remove yahoo bullcrap); and the feeling of the phone in hand is pretty lackluster. Along w/ that there are just so many little software issues; glitches in the UI, glitches in the Radios (my phone liked to go into International Roaming at random), too much work to do the simplest tasks (see: using the stock gallery/music apps), etc.
Overall, sense aside, I am MUCH happier with the Evo 3D; too bad about all the hardware issues I've come across (see: 4 Evo 3D exchanges since launch). Hoping this little guy will last me until the next big thing pops out of the water. I was really thinking of hopping over to the ET or the iP4S but there's too many incongruencies w/ my habits of phone use and those devices.
Really, I'm putting my all of my faith in the Devs to step up to the plate and get some fully-working AOSP goodness on this beast.
Also, once ICS (stock) comes out we SHOULD get an upgraded Sense (even 3.5 would be a major upgrade to this bloated-ass 3.0) so I'm hoping that happens sooner rather than later.
tl;dr - People hate this phone because Sense sucks at life and because of the hardware build/quality of parts (camera, radio, screen, BUTTONS!).
:3 -two cents
People that hate evo 3D hate out of ignorance.
Let them hate.... 3d has some legit specs. flash miui and watch it fly....
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Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
ckoadiyn said:
I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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I was looking to upgrade my OG Evo to the new LTE, but after playing around with it at the Sprint store, I'm not so sure.
Maybe people can give me feedback:
1. I really liked the dedicated camera hardware button; but I was hoping this would be a quick way to take a photo from sleep mode. Seemed to me it didn't operate until you turn on phone, unlock screen, etc. So it actually takes longer than the iPhone. Is there any way to make it shoot straight from sleep?
2. I was excited by the 'take stills while shooting video' thing -- but all 3 phones do this.
3. Switching from front to rear camera is a major pain, takes 3 steps. Samsung & iPhone it's instant.
4. Does anyone know of a place to see real-world photos from this phone side by side with iPhone? I know the lens is f2 (vs 2.4), but I have a feeling the optics are better on the iPhone.
5. Does it have a panorama mode? I thought that was already built in to ICS. I couldn't find it. The iPhone panorama is excellent.
Wow, that's a lot of camera-related questions!
6. What's with the "..." at the bottom of the screen in many places? Is that because there's no menu button? It looks odd and out of place.
7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available?
Thanks for any input! I'm having a really hard time with this decision ... Evo LTE vs iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3.
(The iPhone 'feels' like the best device BY FAR (in terms of build quality, design, screen & speed), but I HATE the narrow screen and the absence of a Swype, which I can't imagine living without.)
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ok, you had a lot of questions and most related to camera. so i will try to get you up to speed. before i start i'm in the same boat and need to choose between the iphone 5 (currently have) the galaxy S3 (just traded away from my S2), and the HTC evo 4g lte ( always been an htc fan boy ).
on #1, you're right the camera button does require the phone to be unlocked before use (for now).
#2, yes they all do some sort of pic in video mode. however the aperture on the HTC is the best of the three and the pics taken while doing vids will be better on the HTC...this should help cover #4 as well. as far as finding pics to match i could load a few but most aren't of the same theme.
#3, the switching between rear and front camera...lets be serious. how often do you need instant switching back and forth? but to explain, the camera of the htc is extremely powerful and so just as if you use a high end camera changin a few features may seem slow. trade off comrade, trade off...would you rather a slow focus and quick switch or quick focus and slow switch? also it really isn't that slow. as compared to the S3 it's on par, the iphone is faster but the front facing camera is a joke compared to those of the android counterparts. they all have a panoramic shot mode so dont fret on that, #5 dismissed.
While on the topic of cameras i will say the iphone 5 has an awesome camera compared to the iphone 4/4s but the focus and detail is failing when placed beside the S3 and evo LTE.
now to the fun stuff and why i got the iphone...
first #6, yes the "..." is the menu. no haptic button for the htc. no idea on the rooting yet, i like to test stock before i go tamperin...just seems fair to have a really good device before i make it the perfect one.^_^. . the iphone 5 is a spectacular device specially seeing any device i get right now (i'm a sprint user, *sigh* hopefully loyalty has it's advantages). IOS is a very stable OS and gives a ease of use unchallenged by many. if you've ever had an iphone more so the last three setting up your new iphone should be as easy as syncing to itunes or loading from cloud to have damned near everything loaded for you. . . .BUT it's old, and lame, and too stupid friendly. i make no jabs @ apple, i have both mac and PC and as i said got the iphone 5 and have had every other dating back to the original iphone (SN: anyone else notice how much the latest iphone looks more like the first more so than any other...victim of fashion i guess).
Samsung, oh samasung....i had the S2 and i have to admit, it became one of my favs. i didn't even want the damned thing, but my gurl made me do the "matching" thing. don't laugh, there are far worse options. -,-... back to focus, the S2 was large, beautiful, responsive and gave a so-so battery performance. the new version has all that and then some. it is loaded, wait let me clarify.....LOADED with goodies and features. all eye catching, all empowering, all really cool. and the way they have been presented on tv and web is about to make the next thing i say a shocker to some.... the HTC can do these things to. HTC started the trend of phone gestures on smart phones...back before android on this little known part of history called windows mobile 6. and they've kept it going all along. never really got the front face it deserved but it's had it and the evo is no different. no before i get blasted there are a few features unique to samsung and again why i emphasized on how many there are.
last but definately not least is HTC. they've been my fav for a loooo...insert coffee break here...oong time, since since my 8125 (see cingular). the htc is a thign of beauty in modest form. the power, the look, the camer, the kickstand....is just an awesome picture of what a phone should be. it works awesome as it's predecessor did, without the hellaciously horrendous battery life. it's that nerdy chic in class all grown up. but there inlies her problem...her focus has shifted. she's just as smart as before, smarter even. but she's gotten so shallow that like your "..." problem in #6 things that used to make her intelligence known are now hidden behind a pretty smile.
i've ranted long enough and hopefully helped fix some of your questions. i think i just solved mine. getting the htc tomorrow. glad i could help and thanks for yours.
Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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Wow, thanks, that's a lot of useful info!
I beg to differ, however; I find I need to use the cam-switch feature quickly all the time. E.g., you take a picture of something cool, then you want to take a picture of yourself & your wife being at the something cool ...
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I'm not a big fan of taking pictures with the front camera. I always considered it as something important for video chatting, not so much taking pictures I actually intend on keeping. It's only 1.3 megapixels as opposed to the 8 on the back.
As for the phone, I like it overall. There are some kinks, but you would be foolish to expect there not to be any a few months after the device launches.
I'm having the contact ringtone not working - haven't gotten an update to fix it that should've been out for a week already. Also have had problems with swype force closing, and have had one glorious occasion where I was stuck in a boot loop. And I'm not even rooted! Ended up factory resetting and losing all my apps.
I really WANT to like it. The battery is awesome, the camera is nice. No ****ing LTE yet, and I'm in Los Angeles - one of the biggest markets in the US. No Jellybean yet either.
I'll wait it out though. I had the old Evo 4G and it was a great year and a half.
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5. Does it have a panorama mode?
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Yes. It's excellent. Up to 5 panes IIRC. I took some pics at the zoo last weekend. They were too big to upload to image shack. Turned out great but you'll have to take my word for it.
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7. How difficult is to root the Evo; and how well does it run with AOSP Jelly Bean? Are all hardware features available??
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Very easy. I did it with the one click method (it's noob proof). Rooted in about 15 minutes. I'm running the Mean Rom 4.5.1. It's super fast and not buggy. It's the best rom out there IMO. Lots of camera mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727167
Watch the video review in the second link. It shows all the bells & whistles. The new update has a 1.7 overclock kernel.
Read my post about my HTC Evo 4G on a thread I posted a few days ago here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32045074
And...
Here is a little review of this phone: I wrote this on another thread.
Found a Great vs Review! Keep in mind this was in May! Plus I don't care much for the GS3. This is strictly for The Two Devices Listed Down Below. 
This sumed it up for me! Good thing it shows the differences between camera. I see that the Nexus camera is more of a square format then a wide format. So that right there is a no go on my end. But yea, they are both Superior devices. Wish I can own both...But oh well....
Check out this link for the full review!
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus_id3039/page/2
Posted: 21 May 2012, 07:05 , by Brian K.
Processor and Memory:
Samsung uses a 1.2GHz dual core TI OMAP4460 processor, while EVO 4G LTE is powered by a dual core Qualcomm S4. Both run on 1GB of RAM. The Samsung opts for 32GB of internal storage, whereas HTC only offers 16GB built-in but has expandable memory for another possible 64GB. HTC also partnered with Dropbox to give users activating an EVO 4G LTE 25GB of free cloud storage. Both run the OS quickly and fluidly, and in everyday use it is likely that you wouldn’t notice much of a difference. There is something to be said for the heavy graphical load of Sense 4.0 and how well the EVO 4G LTE handles it.
When it comes to benchmarks, however, the EVO 4G LTE mops the floor with the Nexus. Besting our previous scores, the EVO 4G LTE was able to achieve just shy of 5500 on Quadrant Standard, with the Galaxy Nexus topping out just over 2000 at its best. Nenamark 2 gave similar results, with the EVO 4G LTE topping out at 58.8fps and the Galaxy Nexus less than half that 24.9fps. On AnTuTu the EVO 4G LTE maxed out a few points shy of 7000, with the Galaxy Nexus far behind at about 5100 (with the rest of its scores down in the mid 4000s.) It is pretty clear that Qualcomm’s latest and greatest is up the challenge of some heavy computing.
Camera:
A reworked camera app was one of the selling points of Android 4.0, and we have to say we’re impressed with the instant capture feature that the Galaxy Nexus offers. The interface is better, but still clunky and worlds behind the HTC interface found on the EVO 4G LTE. The technology behind the Nexus’ camera is also lagging behind; Samsung opted for a 5 megapixel f2.8 camera while HTC went with an 8 megapixel f2.0 with backside illumination. Both are capable of producing some great shots, and at times the Galaxy Nexus bested the EVO 4G LTE, but the majority of the time the HTC outperformed the Samsung.
Colors were more natural with the EVO 4G LTE, details were crisper and tricky lighting conditions were handled much better. The Galaxy Nexus struggled with color saturation, backlight situations and light/dark contrast (such as shooting shadows.) The EVO 4G LTE bested the Galaxy Nexus especially indoors, where the latter had a tendency to lose details quickly, as evidenced by the pantry shot.
Conclusion:
These are undoubtedly the two best Android devices Sprint has to offer, and really are two of the best smartphones available today. Some of this is going to come down to preferences, for example Sense versus stock or AMOLED versus S-LCD. All things considered the HTC EVO 4G LTE was the better performer of the pair in our opinion. It offers a superior display, top notch performance, excellent call quality and has an inspired design. The Galaxy Nexus is not without merit, and we would certainly carry one as our everyday phone if one were handed to us, but given the choice the HTC edges out the Nexus in too many categories to call it even.
When it comes to cameras, I know wassup! This Evo 4G LTE is a beast comparing it to any iPhone! Android in general had panorama way back even before the iPhone had it. And to tell you the truth its on top of its game. Don't expect to take excellent shots with either or. Cause what you see on the commercials is not what you get in real life. It takes dedication & a Non-Moving subject for it to come out perfect. Like "landscape"
But yea, Im a big camera person. And for I to choose this camera over any other phone camera means a lot in my line of Hobby!
The only thing is, if you are planning to upload to facebook. There is something with facebook that it does not let it load its full resolution. The only way for it to upload full resolution of a photo is if you pass it over to your computer and upload it that way. Or I think uploading it through the App "google chrome" should do the trick. Facebook app sucks on Android! I have to admit that on Apple, facebook app its the best!
I know because I owned a iPhone 4 and my girl owns a iPhone 4S!
But yea, if you are not a fan of a little screen. The iPhone is not going to make justice.
Watching YouTube videos, movies, tv shows, playing a game on the Evo 4G LTE screen has become one of my best experience then doing so on a iPhone screen.
Keep that in mind!
One last thing about the camera between the Evo 4G LTE & any iPhone!
This camera shoots widescreen shots and keeps a aperture of 2.2 or I think 2.0 which is Heavenly good. The bigger the aperture the better the lens! It gives great depth of field, it also as on-board effects that I often play with. My favorite is "over exposed" which is a Black & white effect.
Here are some examples!
I posted nights shots for to see how great it captures light and night scenes! It may not look superb due to uploading with xda but on the phone it looks great!
Camera is about the same quality on all three phones.
You can add camera to lockscreen.
I'd pick the S3 (currently what I use, despite being a HTC fanboy).
Don't chain yourself to Apple.
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evo 4g lte beats every phone in speed.. i have tested it using every benchmark and quadrant app thats out and the evo wins in all of them :good:
Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
Good article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/08/30/hands-on-how-cyanogenmod-10-fixed-my-evo-4g-lte/
Does anyone know about this from the comments?
Rohan Mathur • a month ago
Just an FYI Liam, we are moving the entire HTC MSM8960 family from proprietary library files to an Open Source HAL for Camera. Guess what that means? Near perfect camera
My device (the One XL), the HTC One S, and your device, the Evo 4G LTE are all making the switch. The new camera libraries are working very, very well.
Should be merged either tonight or tomorrow. Big props to dzo from XDA for his flatout amazing work.
Track the commit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
And here is the commit for your device for building the opensourced Camera HAL: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/...
EDIT: Commit was merged last night, should be included in nightlies from now on.
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Sounds like someone from the CM dev team ... has anyone tried CM10?
It looks AWESOME .... does it now have all the camera functions?
(And it fixes the menu button issue.)
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Thanks for all the feedback & input!
I guess my biggest issue is Sense; IMHO, it looks old, ugly, and annoying. I've hated Sense for 2 years, and it keeps getting worse.
That weird "stretch" overscroll effect is just awful.
Couple more questions ...
If I install stock (or CM) ICS or JB, what would I be losing out? Would I still have the dual still/video buttons in camera? Continuous shooting?
Is there a stable MIUI ROM for the Evo LTE? (MIUI is amazing on my OG)
Does anyone know if there's any Swype-like keyboard options for the iPhone?
How often do you get that stupid "menu" button taking up 10% of your screen? That really blows my mind!
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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HTC already released an update to remove the menu bar and make the mulitasking button a menu button.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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True but, on some devices that option is not working. I know cause I'm one of them. Do you know how I.may solve this problem? Im able to set it up but when I press or hold the multi button it does not go to menu.
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I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Steven 1 said:
I doubt that. Should be working flawlessly if you are running sense 4.1 or an aosp ROM. Reboot your phone
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Don't doubt it cause its happening to me. I'm stock to the bone! And yes I am on 4.1 sense.
The only thing I could think being that you are stock is to try a factory reset.
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I'll try that.. but I'm not really in the need for a menu buttons. I guess I'll wait until.. One, I root my Evo or Two: HTC, comes out with JB.
Not really related but I took this awesome shot of the sunrise the other day.