So I am not sure what exactly happened to this discussion but I was wondering if there was any one trying to figure out how to get 1080p video recording possible on our phones? I believe our hardware is capable of shooting in 1080p but for some reason was left out last minute. Would this be able to happen via a custom kernel? I apologize if this was resolved a while ago but I just haven't seen any recent threads about this.
this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
BrianBaker said:
this phone can barely pull off 720p video capture very smooth..If 1080p recording is to come to our Evo3D's it will be something from HTC..
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Why do you say that? HTC was not able to get the original EVO past 30fps, the developers figured it out before them. HTC was also not able to get full HDMI mirroring on the original EVO before the developers figured it out. For a long time the EVO 3D was listed as being able to capture in 1080p, then suddenly days before released it was changed. Our processors ARE capable of shooting in 1080p.
Since the camera is controlled by software, you would need a 3rd party app that was written to do 1080, and that app would have to integrate with other phone systems, such as video and processor... So..i guess we wait untill someone gets the motivation to write it...
I hope 1080p can be made possible on this phone. I feel the hardware should be able to handle it, especially the CPU. Though the quality of the camera sensor and optics seems to be a bit lacking at least at first glance. I bet with some improved software, it should be possible to squeeze out more from our rear cameras.
Htc did this for a reason...therefore im 99% sure it is not possible.
Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Hopefully the reason was simply that they didn't have time to finalize any loose ends...
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Thats like very unlikely...but well it would be great.
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Well, I'll admit this is probably a stupid question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
The Eris has a 5 Megapixel camera- but it can only record video in CIF at the highest.
Once it's rooted, maybe even before then, would it be possible to enable recording in VGA? I'm by no means technologically ignorant, but I'm not the most educated on cameras. So, if it's possible, let me know, and if not, please do explain WHY it's not, so that I can learn and not ask this question anywhere else.
Thanks in advance.
So..... I take it no one out of the 50 people to view this has any idea about it?
I honestly have no idea, sorry...
the reason its recording in CIF is as follows:
1) CIF is smaller/quicker and has better compatability when sent via MMS
2) Because CIF is smaller/quicker you get a higher framerate then if you increased resolution best example of this is the iPhone 3G programs setup to record... Stuttered alot and had very few FPS
3) Higher Res Video Recording requires a faster processor.
Aaaah, alright, thanks.
I just figured that because some other HTC phones before this (windows mobile, mainly) Had programs that could force VGA recording, I figured that this one would be powerful enough for it.
Ah well.
Now I just gotta figure out how to get the best quality out of CIF... any tips on making the motion not as blurry, or is that something I'd have to wait until they root the device to play around with? (Or not possible entirely)
It really depends on the chipset's processing abilities and whether it can handle the recording at that high of a resolution.
Anyone more think that all the video samples are choppy like the phone can't maintain the framerate and worse in quality than I4?
Looked great to me. Didn't see any chop.
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Anyone more think that all the video samples are choppy like the phone can't maintain the framerate and worse in quality than I4?
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first, i'm see it ok, no double frame & stutter when recording , second, since when the I4 can record at 1080p? if you want to compare, compare with 720p recording for SGS2, i'm sure SGS2 better then I4...
Yea I see some stutters... I dunno if it's just because of early software or youtube compression or whatever. First of all this is 1080p, so you can't really compare it to the iPhone's 720p.
The only way to check for exact output is to download and analyze the file outputed by the phone itself, as youtube is notorious for compressing and decreasing framerates to decrease size.
So far I have seen nothing but great opinions in reviews as far as 1080 recording go...
And as many have said rotten-apple company phone does not do anything better than 720.
They seem fine to me as well. Perhaps check that your Graphics card can play back that resolution.
Not criticizing you, just merely stating the obvious.
Seems awesome to me, never thought a phone could record like that, if you're on Mac or Linux don't forget Flash can sometimes be awful on these OS.
I am on a Mac and it looks fantastic here.
The video quality is smooth and crisp. If you pause it, you can actually clearly see license plates.
Wow, what crappy video from a phone.
If I were you I wouldn't buy it.
Saving the stock for yourself there?
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Wow, what crappy video from a phone.
If I were you I wouldn't buy it.
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Irony? If not, which phone do you have ?
of course it will be not like canon or nikon whatever cameras
its a smartphone .. with a camera and capable of recording 1080p @30fps .. not bad
dont expect too much from a phone
if u want a pro camera go buy one .. like canon vixia hf20
Yes total sarcasm.
I watched the video and I honestly could not see what the guy is talking about.
The video looks flippin great. And seeing the latest bench marks on the phone I very happy I passed up the Atrix not to mention that the Atrix is locked up tighter than a drum.
Oh, OK. It's always difficult to know whether it's sarcasm or not when it's written and not spoken.
LOL... OP works for apple.
Choppy video???! Where!?
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LOL... OP works for apple.
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Hmm i dont see any choppy video anywhere! and considering that the video is this good from a pre production model, i cant wait to see what the retail unit can do
There is no denying that the video is choppy. Thats a shame, hope the finished product is better. Some here are saying its only a phone so don't expect too much, but the iphone 4 has smooth video recording and so too does the 3GS. I think we've come to expect better.
just use 720p and you ll be fine...
Remember that these videos have been uploaded to Youtube and been encoded by Google again. If you actually go to Keepvid.com and download the video at full 1080 and watch it in VLC, they look gorgeous.
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just use 720p and you ll be fine...
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Thats not the solution.
If they sold the phone as 1080p 30fps, it should be 1080p 30fps that it is SMOOTH video not skippy one.
So now the evo 3d has been succesfully rooted, could it be possible to get 1080p recording on the EVO 3D??
I would like to know as well.
Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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i think you might speak the truth there is a reason HTC didnt include this, after all.
Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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Yes we have all the hardware capable of doing so, I'm sure it will get implemented in many upcoming roms. 720p recording is just bad programming on HTC's fault. We will get it ironed out .
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I tend to agree..unless it is a sensor limitation..obviously the soc is capable of it since the sensation does it very well..I believe most issues that ppl have with photos/videos is software related..I actually like the video quality that I achieve with my e3d..and sound recording is much improved over It's predecessor
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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I have a $99 point-n-shoot that does 720p video that mops the floor with what I can get from my E3D.
Considering it's a cellphone, yes it takes fantastic video. However if we are going to rationalize the video quality with the qualifier "for a cellphone" then wouldn't we do the same and just agree that 720p is enough "for a cellphone"?
I do a lot of video work at my job and one thing I have seen personally and from everyone that has to review and approve my work....most people won't notice a lower resolution but people will most certainly notice lower frame rate, especially below 24fps. Lower resolution with perfectly smooth video wins over a lot more people than a super sharp super high resolution video with less than ideal frame rate. I'd prefer someone gets a rock-solid 30fps fix in place before or instead of a 1080p recording resolution...
...but that's just me.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
I agree id rather have smooth recording becore a higher choppy Resolution.
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The o3d does 1080p in 30fps since the firmware update
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Based on the performance of 720p recording I don't think I'd even want to see how choppy 1080 would look. The SoC is indeed very capable of handling it but I think it is limited based on storage write limitations not to mention the sensor's lighting conditions. Even if we could write 24fps (def not 30fps) in all but perfect lighting we wouldn't even be getting 24fps from the sensor...likely under 10 most of the time based on how 720p recordings average out.
...but then again I could (hopefully) be very wrong.
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I think the sensor may be capable of 1080p @30fps, not completely sure though.
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Oh I'm not.disagreeing with that..id much rather have a smooth 720 p video than a choppy 1080p. I dont think any phone does 1080p justice..I'm totally fine with 720 I was just commenting on the possibility of it being able to be done on our phones..imo 720p still needs Alot of work . Btw didn't u send u e3d back? Are u gonna get it back since root or are u hold out for the gs2
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Yeah, I could only take 2 weeks of the EVEN WEAKER NS4G radio...I'm back...though SGS2 is still a possibility and the nPrime is for certain.
The 720P has really impressed me so far. I even tried it out at night a few times, including moving it with quick movements in my car, and I didn't see any blurring or chop. I did find out that every so often I might get some chop on playback, but it was due to a hanging app, and restarting the device solved that problem.
Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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The Evo 4G+ Is practically the Evo3d and its got 1080p recording in its release specs..But so did our 3D before release.
I personally don't see the need for 1080p recording,the software sucks and doesn't even do 720p very good.I leave it on qHD resolution.
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Wasn't 1080p advertised when not using 3d?
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I thoughts so
sent from my DAMN 3D!!
Wondering if the Snapdragon SoC can do a better job than the Tegra2. Has anybody tested some high profile 1080p?
Thanks.
On sensation all my HD 1080p videos played with no problem
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On sensation all my HD 1080p videos played with no problem
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Even 1080p [email protected]? If that's the case, my coming Touchpad will get a lot more usage than I expected
Thanks.
1080p flash works well on the sensation but not on the pad
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Wondering if the Snapdragon SoC can do a better job than the Tegra2. Has anybody tested some high profile 1080p?
Thanks.
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i think it`s just software limitation.
also the cpu @ 1.2ghz is underclocked. it can run up to 1.5ghz without any problem.
Cellphones, Tablet PCs,
Qualcomm gets official with TouchPad-powering Snapdragon APQ8060 processor
By Donald Melanson posted Feb 10th 2011 1:31PM
HP already put out the first official word about Qualcomm's new Snapdragon APQ8060 processor yesterday when it revealed that its TouchPad was based on it, but Qualcomm's now also come out and properly announced the new processor itself. That's, of course, a dual-core processor, and comes paired with an Adreno 220 GPU that Qualcomm says helps to deliver "unprecedented processing and 3D graphics performance." What's more, while the TouchPad is the first device to use the processor, it obviously won't be the last, and Qualcomm has now also given us an idea of what sort of capabilities those devices (including smartphones in addition to tablets) might have -- namely, cameras up to 16 megapixels, and the ability to capture and display 1080p stereoscopic 3D video or 8 megapixel stereoscopic still images. Head on past the break for the complete press release.
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Why do people go nuts over thing like this? i really dont get it.. unless its just so they dont have to re-encode anything... but what the point of running a 1080p video on a screen that is only 1024x768? when you do this you are making the processor work harder scaling it down.. there for using more battery..
if its just for easy of use.. thats one thing.. just copy and go.. or if the touchpad had a video out port (that would be SWEEETT!!)
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Why do people go nuts over thing like this? i really dont get it.. unless its just so they dont have to re-encode anything... but what the point of running a 1080p video on a screen that is only 1024x768? when you do this you are making the processor work harder scaling it down.. there for using more battery..
if its just for easy of use.. thats one thing.. just copy and go.. or if the touchpad had a video out port (that would be SWEEETT!!)
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Calm down. Why do people think it's their job to tell others what to want? First of all, nobody's going nuts here. Secondly, you're right. I don't want to reencode my tv shows just to watch then delete. Third and last, i don't care about battery when im on my bed and want to something.
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Calm down. Why do people think it's their job to tell others what to want? First of all, nobody's going nuts here. Secondly, you're right. I don't want to reencode my tv shows just to watch then delete. Third and last, i don't care about battery when im on my bed and want to something.
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sorry i didnt mean to imply that anyone here was going nuts over it.. but there was quite a... debate.. over the issue on the nook forums about it.. people calling it a POS because it couldnt do 1080p ect.. people were even complaining that even tho they were already having to re-encode there videos to get them to play on the nook.. they were having to re-encode them to 800x480 instead of the more 'common' format of 1280x720
I understand. There was a big ordeal with the Tegra 2 and high-profile h264, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed. Anyhow, it LOOKS like this 3rd-gen Snapdragon chip is a better decoder. Will try it myself when I get my Touchpad. Wonder if there's a HW-decoding player for webOS though.
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I understand. There was a big ordeal with the Tegra 2 and high-profile h264, but it is an issue that needs to be addressed. Anyhow, it LOOKS like this 3rd-gen Snapdragon chip is a better decoder. Will try it myself when I get my Touchpad. Wonder if there's a HW-decoding player for webOS though.
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try this player KalemSoft Media Player
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try this player KalemSoft Media Player
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Does not look like this software is hardware decoding because even 720p h264 mkv are lagging.
No it isn't. It transcodes the files. Somebody needs to write a player that will do hardware decoding. This soc is technically as good as the ipad2. I would be more than happy to pay for such app.
I know this isn't exactly what is being asked, but just to add I played some HD videos from Vimeo yesterday and they worked really well.
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I know this isn't exactly what is being asked, but just to add I played some HD videos from Vimeo yesterday and they worked really well.
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Vimeo is more HQ than HD imo
From using touch player on the device (which is built off of ffmpeg), I can tell you that even 720p will lag a little (but still playable). I highly doubt 1080 will be. Besides, how much do you think you are going to fit onto it with nothing but 1080p shows? 2 seasons of the simpsons @ 720p took up nearly 16gb.
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From using touch player on the device (which is built off of ffmpeg), I can tell you that even 720p will lag a little (but still playable). I highly doubt 1080 will be.
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Touchplayer is a software-decoding player. We need hardware!
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Touchplayer is a software-decoding player. We need hardware!
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Start developing it
There doesn't exist anything else for touchpad as far as I know.
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Start developing it
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That would take too long. First I have to learn how to code lol. I wish somebody would take advantage of the fire sale and make such software. There's gotta be like 1/4 a million Touchpads out there right?
I'd consider it, but I don't think there's much of a market for selling it on the touchpad. Besides the fact android will be on it soon.
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I'd consider it, but I don't think there's much of a market for selling it on the touchpad. Besides the fact android will be on it soon.
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Perhaps, but I wonder if Android performance will take a hit as a port.
Hi ,I was wondering if its possible to still somehow modify the soft to make it run on ics or jb,cause im pretty sure its hardware would allow it. Btw i remember that there was an amaze camera gingerbread thread with some alpha mod.
Our phone is not designed, nor fully capable for 1080p goodness. Sorry. Previous programs, and some old ROMs had the option, but was found to be unstable and pointless.
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Our phone is not designed, nor fully capable for 1080p goodness. Sorry. Previous programs, and some old ROMs had the option, but was found to be unstable and pointless.
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What about this? http://darkroms.com/darksense-3d/
BTW, I dont know whether it works or not.
What about it?
Everything I've read says that the maximum video resolution on the Evo 3D is 720P even though the Sensation and One S C2 with similar processor and memory specs record at 1080P. There must have been some trade-off required for deploying 3D cameras.
OTOH, this is a very interesting comparison. Although the videos on the other phones are higher resolution, the colors in the Evo 3D sample are much closer to the original, especially the blue on the ferris wheel gondola.
Edit: Judging by the red gondola at the bottom of both 1080p stills versus the green gondola at the bottom of the 720p still it looks like they weren't too careful about positioning things the same way for all phones, but the blue background color still looks more true on the Evo 3D.
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What about this? http://darkroms.com/darksense-3d/
BTW, I dont know whether it works or not.
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It shows coming soon.
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waaaaay back when this phone was announced they made a mistake and said it had 1080p recording, but then change it to 720p. and yeah i agree that the 3D probably has something to do with it, so I don't think there's any way to get 1080p recording on it