title says pretty much everything..
1. if im unlocking using the Pudding method.. will it really void the warranty on the device? anyone tried using warranty after unlocking? hardbricks guys.. whats your experience?
2. does the new 4.5.91 update from at&t comes with an unlock option in the bootloader menu?
thanks.
2. No the update does not. They removed the unlocked option.
As for 1, there is a warning that you may void your guarantee..
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Paschalis said:
2. No the update does not. They removed the unlocked option.
As for 1, there is a warning that you may void your guarantee..
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Key word being "May". They would have to prove that your modification damaged the device and not a faulty component. Such as when you buy a car and decide to put an aftermarket oil filter/air filter on it and then your horn quits working. They would still have to warranty your horn as the filters had nothing to do with the faulty horn.
So, if we have completed official 4.5.91 ota, what do we use to free up our atrix
What are the steps to unlock bootloader after one completes the new ota update 4.5.91 ?
And how to root after this latest update? Lots of messages about bricking so I would like to be sure of the correct method to use?
maddie01 said:
What are the steps to unlock bootloader after one completes the new ota update 4.5.91 ?
And how to root after this latest update? Lots of messages about bricking so I would like to be sure of the correct method to use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
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I'm on an international backflup. Should I unlock? Mainly is unlocking the atrix worth it now or should I wait? Finally, is unlocking reversible? Will mototola deny warranty due to a locked bootloader?
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matthew5025 said:
I'm on an international backflup. Should I unlock? Mainly is unlocking the atrix worth it now or should I wait? Finally, is unlocking reversible? Will mototola deny warranty due to a locked bootloader?
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You need to unlock if you want to mod the phone. If you are fine with stock, there's no reason to unlock.
Unlocking is irreversible and it will void your warranty.
p.s. there have been many threads regarding this.
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p.s. there have been many threads regarding this.
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Sorry, hard too perform a search on a phone.
What I meant was if the phone is faulty but was not caused by unlocking the bootloader, will motorola fix the phone if it is still under warranty?
p.s. dosn't the atrix have a relockable bootloader?
matthew5025 said:
Sorry, hard too perform a search on a phone.
What I meant was if the phone is faulty but was not caused by unlocking the bootloader, will motorola fix the phone if it is still under warranty?
p.s. dosn't the atrix have a relockable bootloader?
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Unlocking the bootloader "cancels" the warranty. This means they won't repair it even if the cause wasn't a bootloader unlock.
Also, there's no way to relock the bootloader at this point.
I may have to return my ATRIX due to Let'sTalk horrible customer service, but I was wondering if there is anyway to re-lock the Bootloader, or to hide the fact that it says, Unlocked. Thank you in advanced
Also, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, as this is urgent to me and I have yet to see any otherpost relating this topic.
There is another topic like this.
No you can't re-lock and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
Reflash To Stock
Unfortunately, there is no way to relock a bootloader. Hence all of the warnings when you committed
but, if you use 4.5.91 the software at the address below should reinstall the newest stock software...
direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSelect.asp?country=USA&language=ENS
be careful because Im not sure how motorola update will react to an unlocked bootloader. Ask around...do so at your own risk.
If you want to try a harder, albeit, safer method, and you are sure that you do not have a phone running 4.1.5.91, you can restore your phone to a factory SBF with this process:
briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRY TO RESTORE A 4.5.91 system to stock with RSD LITE.
To go to any of the blue webaddresses above, copy-paste them into your browser. Sorry, but I am not allowed to post links yet.
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
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The downgrading and hard brick problem stems from using the OTA update, so you won't hard brick if for example you upgraded with KP's 4.5.91.
You also should be able to flash the 4.5.91 SBF. You just can't downgrade. There are other threads about this.
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I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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The reason the fruitcakes were created and deemed safe by the devs were because it didn't touch the BL, which people believe to be the culprit behind the hard bricks. NFhimself was brave enough to testing flashing the BL via cwm in his gobstopper on international phones, but I don't think any other devs are willing to risk hard bricking their phones by testing that theory on US phones.
There also isn't enough "reward" for doing so because if people want to downgrade they can use a fruitcake. The only gain is to get rid of the "unlock" text. But if you were really that concerned about it despite reading all the warnings of this will void you warranty, you shouldn't have unlocked in the first place.
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I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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Hi,
One of the reasons I did up a default CWM of 2.2.2 is to have a means of doing a reset after trying all ATT/ORANGE/TELSTRA/MOVIESTAR/etc firmwares out there which may have side effects or accumulated side effects. Hence the inclusion of the stock bootloader and radio and a write of the extra partitions to clean up whatever mix and match leftovers are in there from the various carriers. The other big one is just to be able to get a Bell OTA applied when it comes out, it will probably be similar to the leak, but best to be safe.
This is more of a Bell/Intl issue as ATT folks tend to run just ATT firmware or flash just boot and system via CWM/fastboot and don't have the same issues as flashing a sbf file.
Both the stock 2.2.2 and leaked ap20 OTA bootloaders from Bell are safe to flash after IHOP, this is not the case with ATT bootloaders and may be the case for any included in a sbf file. Finding out the hard way is not an option.
Cheers!
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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Say I unlocked it at 1.8.3 should I go down to 1.5.7? Is that safe?
moto helper update relocked mine flashed it to 4.5.91 and i had to reunlock and root agin i thought i was getting a driver update not ota.I was on rom homebase + extras but my win 7 64 bit wasent seeing my phone so i reinstalled drivers and updated drivers and updated moto helper and in the process flashed my phone to stock that pissed me off had to start over..I rebooted the phone several times and never seen unlocked on boot tried to fastboot into android recovery and got the triangle im all good now back on homebase ext4 just thought id share that you realy can relock at least it dont say unlocked i beleve its locked
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and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Err...............yes you can!
care to share how?
Scolis said:
care to share how?
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Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
CaelanT said:
Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
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Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
leperkuan said:
Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
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When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
CaelanT said:
When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
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Lol well I wasn't sure it had a one year warranty. Found out my vibrator does work. Just sometimes doesn't on cm7. Weird. Well I may try this anyways. Tired of custom Roms.
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leperkuan said:
Found out my vibrator does work.
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Think you should go to another site other than XDA with this. Something in the XXX domain should work for you. Too much information for me! LOL................
assuming it is still in warranty
hard brick the phone and return it
just tell them you was doing a software update and your kid unplugged the phone while doing so
I have an ATRIX 4G MB860 from T-Mobile UK with 2.2.2 stock Froyo with just the bootloader unlocked. I also have had it sim unlocked using the unlock code.
My Question is, would this unlocked bootloader cause any issues whenever the T-Mobile OTA upgrades come.
Would I be able to use the OTA upgrade or would I need to flash a custom ROM using CWM or something?
I hope the OTA wont brick the phone cuz the bootloader is unlocked.
Any comments?
Thanx
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shabeepk said:
I have an ATRIX 4G MB860 from T-Mobile UK with 2.2.2 stock Froyo with just the bootloader unlocked. I also have had it sim unlocked using the unlock code.
My Question is, would this unlocked bootloader cause any issues whenever the T-Mobile OTA upgrades come.
Would I be able to use the OTA upgrade or would I need to flash a custom ROM using CWM or something?
I hope the OTA wont brick the phone cuz the bootloader is unlocked.
Any comments?
Thanx
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Erm... theoretically you can.... BUT YOU SHOULDN"T....
Official 2.3.4 "burns a fuse", meaning you can't go back to 2.2.2 or you will hard brick. Official OTA 2.3.4 also comes with a new bootloader that causes problems (you will most likely have to reflash pudding to get the phone unlocked again),
ANYWAY, you can upgrade to Official 2.3.4 without flashing OTA.
Since you have unlocked your BL, you do have experience with using fastboot?
Flash CWM, and then flash the Official rom from here via moto-fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15970117#post15970117
This way, you will only flash the "boot" and "system" partitions. (It's also advisable to flash the "webtop" and "radio").
It's really the safest way to upgrade to Official rom without losing the BL unlock, burning the fuse, risking a brick, etc...
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Erm... theoretically you can.... BUT YOU SHOULDN"T....
Official 2.3.4 "burns a fuse", meaning you can't go back to 2.2.2 or you will hard brick. Official OTA 2.3.4 also comes with a new bootloader that causes problems (you will most likely have to reflash pudding to get the phone unlocked again),
ANYWAY, you can upgrade to Official 2.3.4 without flashing OTA.
Since you have unlocked your BL, you do have experience with using fastboot?
Flash CWM, and then flash the Official rom from here via moto-fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15970117#post15970117
This way, you will only flash the "boot" and "system" partitions. (It's also advisable to flash the "webtop" and "radio").
It's really the safest way to upgrade to Official rom without losing the BL unlock, burning the fuse, risking a brick, etc...
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Yes, I have experience working with fastboot
Just one more question, does it make any difference that I have T-Mobile version of the phone. Would that cause any problems? Cuz the thread you have referred to is an AT&T thread ?
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Yes, I have experience working with fastboot
Just one more question, does it make any difference that I have T-Mobile version of the phone. Would that cause any problems? Cuz the thread you have referred to is an AT&T thread ?
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If you have T-mobile - DONT flash the radio. And you will be super duper safe.
p.s. just to be safe - backup your current rom with CWM before flashing.
I still haven't rooted the phone. What method do you recommend for my T-Mobile device?
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iv been looking for help on this too!
I put gingerblur on my rooted atrix yesterday using this video
youtube.com/watch?v=MvC0C2h95BY&list=FLqfb2F1A2s4Z08JTFsWNuGg&index=4&feature=plpp_video
and ever since my homescreen button and search button dont work and i no longer have a lock screen so i want to go back to stock
my phone before i put it on gingerblur was 2.2.2 froyo on tmobile uk (unlocked device with no tmobile branding on the rear cover)
i would really apreciate it if someone could guide me how to turn it back to the software it came with or an official less buggy software please?
i checked my ota upgrade and it says i can go to ATT gingerbread but then i msure this wouldnt work in the uk with the radio update
im not sure at all what im doing with this and i wish i didnt follow the tutorial in the first place can someone help me please!
Hi Guys,
I was wondering if there is a way to get the latest gingerbread version by easily editing build.prop. I'm on Uk orange.
I remember doing this on my xperia x10 and I managed to change Uk version to Nordic version.
Unlocked handset from Orange
just using my old dead thread to ask a different question.
Will i get the gingerbread update if i unlock my handset originally bought from orange or will it still depends on when orange releases the update. I mean normal unlock by paying £5 and entering the unlock code on the phone and not the bootloader unlock
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just using my old dead thread to ask a different question.
Will i get the gingerbread update if i unlock my handset originally bought from orange or will it still depends on when orange releases the update. I mean normal unlock by paying £5 and entering the unlock code on the phone and not the bootloader unlock
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If you do a SIM unlock, you are still going to be waiting for the update from Orange whenever they release it because it's still their FW...
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Is there a way to debrand by modifying build.prop file?
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No. You need to root your phonem unlock your bootloader, flash new firmware. I'm on Ornage UK and you lose most of your RAM when unlocking the bootloader before you flash new firmware.
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No. You need to root your phonem unlock your bootloader, flash new firmware. I'm on Ornage UK and you lose most of your RAM when unlocking the bootloader before you flash new firmware.
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Thanks. One more question will I lose warranty, if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Yes you should consider it voided once you unlock bl.
The Poll shows the most popular method of unlocking the bootloader.
Sony Website for me:
It's easy to relock the bootoader that way, and it's complete nonsense that they can tell that you unlocked the bootloader because you requested an unlock code.
Back when where Sony Ericsson, you were able to reqest the code before accepting the agreement. So technically you can reqeust the code and store it for feature use without any consequences for the warranty.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, I'd say: use the official method if it's possible. Relock is very easy.
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Sony Website for me:
It's easy to relock the bootoader that way, and it's complete nonsense that they can tell that you unlocked the bootloader because you requested an unlock code.
Back when where Sony Ericsson, you were able to reqest the code before accepting the agreement. So technically you can reqeust the code and store it for feature use without any consequences for the warranty.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, I'd say: use the official method if it's possible. Relock is very easy.
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At this point I only have a choice of either leaving bootloader locked or proceeding with the website unlock. Cannot unlock the phone using the unofficial method.
I think I'm going to go with the website unlock.
Would love to hear from someone who tried to repair their device after unlocking the device via sony website.
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Cannot unlock the phone using the unofficial method.
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Having problems, newer build date or you just afraid o doing it?
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Having problems, newer build date or you just afraid o doing it?
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Latest device - 12W18 - unfortunately.
Cr*p I'.m on Sony website I already filled in my imei e-mail and name...but I'm afraid to press...send <lol>
Still don't know if I'm not making a mistake
Have you try with s1tool, or you just checked manufacture date?
And another question, is your phone sim-locked?
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Have you try with s1tool, or you just checked manufacture date?
And another question, is your phone sim-locked?
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Actually I didn't I just checked the date and assumed that the device is too new to be unlocked using the unofficial method. It's a simlock free phone. So I guess it wouldn't be unwise to try the s1tool before unlocking via the website. I guess I need some "tools" to prepare this wire thingy.
Of course. Some factories start using new security earlier or later.
So try first. Good luck.
Website, since it doesn't void warranty unless I break it myself in which case tbh it would be a bit of a bs claim if I did try to claim warranty on it.
Also it's the official method, which though I know shouldn't be and probably isn't the case, to me seems safer.
Well I just unlocked via website hopefully i won't have to use the warranty.
I had unlocked boot with Omnius and free
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Well I just unlocked via website hopefully i won't have to use the warranty.
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I take that as you got error in s1tool?
I'm just curious
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I take that as you got error in s1tool?
I'm just curious
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Yes it was an error.