Hi,
recently I wanted to stream content from my PC and my archos asked for the cinema plug-in.
Actualy several question came into my mind as I thought about bying it:
1.) What exactly is it? Just some codecs - so the archos default videoplayer can play MPEG2,..?
2.) As I don't use the stock ROM - will it work on custom rom's too (UrukDroid)? Dont't think Crayogen will work as it doesn't has the archos player app - am I right?
3.) Wouldnt it be more easy to use another videoplayer instead (-> different ROM usage possible, cheaper then 15€ propably,...) ? Can u give me an advice wich app is worth it if so?
4.) What about hardware decoding then?
5.) What about UPNP capability of other players? Already had UPnPlay - but seems to be qute slow atm.
6.) Oh and one last question abut the Plug-in: I read its enabled in several stock Rom verion atm - did they disable in latest 81 again or is it still enabled?
Well - hope i find some help.
greetings
FrEcP
FrEcP said:
Hi,
recently I wanted to stream content from my PC and my archos asked for the cinema plug-in.
Actualy several question came into my mind as I thought about bying it:
1.) What exactly is it? Just some codecs - so the archos default videoplayer can play MPEG2,..?
2.) As I don't use the stock ROM - will it work on custom rom's too (UrukDroid)? Dont't think Crayogen will work as it doesn't has the archos player app - am I right?
3.) Wouldnt it be more easy to use another videoplayer instead (-> different ROM usage possible, cheaper then 15€ propably,...) ? Can u give me an advice wich app is worth it if so?
4.) What about hardware decoding then?
5.) What about UPNP capability of other players? Already had UPnPlay - but seems to be qute slow atm.
6.) Oh and one last question abut the Plug-in: I read its enabled in several stock Rom verion atm - did they disable in latest 81 again or is it still enabled?
Well - hope i find some help.
greetings
FrEcP
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1) Actually we all have the codecs, the plugin just watermarks the device so the codecs are "free" so we can use it.
2) I dont know if its gona work on Urukdroid, i think no because urukdroid have its own partition..
3) The other video players arent so good as the archos video player because the most of them doht have 4)&5)
6) The cinema plugin is disabled on firmware 2.3.26
Tip:
I have the openAOS boot menu with Urukdroid as normal os and the archos android 2.3.26 for watching movies from my hdd
(You can find instructions in my thread at general section)
I know that since the 4th to last firmware it is free for everyone, don't know if it's been blocked again in the last version but it still works in urukdroid, that I can say for shure
TjaXanK said:
I know that since the 4th to last firmware it is free for everyone, don't know if it's been blocked again in the last version but it still works in urukdroid, that I can say for shure
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The cinema plugin was "disabled" on firmware 2.3.20 and 2.3.26
In the newest 2.3.81 you need the plugin.. so on 2.3.20 and 2.3.26 it was a failure from archos
I bought the plug-in.
I tried first to install the plug-in on urukdroid but got an error.
Also after 3 times. Then I switch to Android directly the plug-in installed successfully. Back to urukdroid and tried once, but still the error. Then I checked the plug-in status in the settings and saw that the cinema plug-in was installed. Tried to play a video with ac3 audio and was working.
I ordered the plug-in on pluginsky.us for 15$.
I received the key after one business day.
Sent from my A101IT using XDA Premium App
Hey guys - thanks for all your help...
So I think i stay with the version of Lenn for now and perhaps buy it one day if we get a propper upgrade to at least Gingerbread.
Lenn can u provide a link to their servers containing FW .36? can find it anymore and I sadly overwrote my file on my HD with the .81 FW
greetings
FrEcP
EDIT:
Damn - another problem showed up - dunno if it happens for any of u - but the default video player f***s up my sound somehow.
The whole sound sounds strange and blurry unless ich change balance completely to one side - then it sounding "hearable" but still not right (btw the balance deosn't chance the balance actualy for me)
What i tested for now is:
Uruk 1.0 with default Video player: sound crappy
Uruk 1.0 with RockPlayer: sound crappy
FW .81 with default Video player: sound crappy
FW .81 with RockPlayer: sound fine
Well as this is not topic regarded anymore we better close this thread and i open a new one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16066988#post16066988
Well personally I think its lame that Archos does that ****.i
With that Cinema Plug-In...
I just convert my video's with Hamster Free Video Converter it has a special feature for the Archos 10i but it works fine with Archos 70it.
Just Google it But here is the link to the site I have scanned the files : OK .
Well here is the link : http://videoconverter.hamstersoft.com/en/
If you have the money buy it if you want to save up and buy a case use the Converter...
(Hit thanks if helped )
I bought the Cinema plugin because some 40% of my movies were AC3-encoded. Didn't feel like paying $15 for it, but in the end I bought it from archos.com.
Then I installed UrukDroid 1.5 and saw that the plugin was recognized. It would have been pretty sucky for it not to work in UrukDroid.
so here is my sick question
if it works: buying and then use UrukDroid; shouldn't it be also work then to inst v2.3.20 or 2.3.26 of stock FW and run any UrukDroid?
EDIT:
will try just download the FW:
http://update.archos.com/8/gen8/gen8_2.3.26/firmware_archos_android_gen8.aos
2nd EDIT:
k - seems i have to downgrade for - let see if this:
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...8-device-28-32-43-70-101-2-0-71-2-0-54-a.html
works.
3rd EDIT:
downgrade work - plugin of .3.26 sadly not - even its telling registered (perhaps this is also the freeplugins)
I just want to point out that every player has UPNP and SMB capability on the Archos, even if it's not obvious. Just navigate in the filesystem to /sdcard/network, which is where the mountpoints are.
macemoneta said:
I just want to point out that every player has UPNP and SMB capability on the Archos, even if it's not obvious. Just navigate in the filesystem to /sdcard/network, which is where the mountpoints are.
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well y i find the network folder "/mnt/storage/network" or "/storage/network" wich should be the same symlinked propably
Thanks for this - nice to know.
Anyway it brings me back to another / old problem - as all what is in those folders are "not_allowed" folders due to unsufficiend rights and the missing capability of my archos to connect to win7 shares
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Archos ships these things with the entire cinema plugin pack installed.
Then they push the 2.2 update that not only cuts CPU speed, but also removes the plugin pack.
Now they want $15 to restore the A/V functionality with which the unit shipped.
Yeah, we can use z4root to take back the processor speed, but I haven't seen anything we can do to take back the A/V functionality.
The way I see it, this can't be viewed as piracy. The units shipped with these codecs. If someone can liberate them from the original ROM, we're simply reinstalling software that was licensed to us from the beginning.
I was just hitting the update on my second 70. What would work to extract? Like an astro app backup?
Terminal
I typically use the terminal emulator. All you have to do is run z4root, then open terminal emulator.
type
Code:
su
(enter)
yes to root access
then copy the apk to either the internal memory or your sd card.
you can find your apps located in /data/app or /system/app or /system
so do something like this:
Code:
cd /data/app
ls *media*
(once you find the name remember it, lets say that it is com.mediacodecs)
cp ./com.mediacodecs.apk /mnt/sdcard (or /mnt/data for internal)
then use either dropbox to copy the apk to dropbox or hook it up to a computer to copy the apk off
Unfortunately, I don't think it's an APK.
I'm pretty sure it comes in Archos' proprietary AOS format, but I've got no idea what happens with it after it gets installed.
The only aos I can see is my froyo update.
The apk itself is 584K and from 9/14.
I think its not a apk, the media pack update pack is very small, it only unlocks some features in the player, the codecs are still installed.
I've played all kinds of Xvid and x264 MKV files in both 2.1 and 2.2. And the only thing it ever prompted me to buy the plugin for was for AC3 audio. And it did that in 2.1 too.
I think theres a lot of misconceptions about the AC3 playback problem - my A70 is still able to playback video with AC3 and I'm on 2.2. Everything it would play on 2.1 still plays on 2.2, however some mkv files are requesting the AC3 plugin - but as I didn't try to play these prior to upgrading and don't know if the same would have happened under 2.1. All in all its a bonus that it still plays any AC3 as it was always stated that a plugin was required, and in fact has always been req'd on archos devices . Vplayer seems to cope with mpeg2 and AC3 anyway.
I bought the plugin for 2.2 since none of my h.264 AC3 mkv's would play after the update. The same files worked on the OOB 2.1 firmware. Also, I really prefer the Archos Video app since it's performance is far better than anything else I've tried (probably because it's made to take full advantage of their hardware).
It's correct that the "plugin" that you download is only a small file (840B) that unlocks the feature already present on the device. And the unlock file is hardcoded to your serial# so it won't work on another...
so how about pulling the music and video apks and have them work on my evo?
i really do love their video player.
madsquabbles said:
so how about pulling the music and video apks and have them work on my evo?
I really do love their video player.
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does the evo have the same CPU and DSP? Archos' forte is in their hardware video optimisations - would a 3rd party manage to be as successful as archos?
... Besides, Archos' software is integrated into the ROM and is probably encrypted (i'm guessing) and so i'm sure that it would not be as simple as pulling a few APK's.
I say YES to enabling AC3 or the plugins but NO to ripping off archos by stealing their USP and distributing it across the shop...
madsquabbles said:
so how about pulling the music and video apks and have them work on my evo?
i really do love their video player.
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I tried it. When I get to the installation part it fails, but if you want to try it here is the apk: http://db.tt/ZW91bMI
Here is the apk for the file manager too: http://db.tt/aimR68r
Unless it's the same architecture as the Gen8 it's useless to try. The reason the player works so well is because it's optimized to take advantage of the Gen8's hardware. Putting on a different architecture would basically take away all it's advantages even if it did install and run.
laptopfreek0 said:
I tried it. When I get to the installation part it fails, but if you want to try it here is the apk: http://db.tt/ZW91bMI
Here is the apk for the file manager too: http://db.tt/aimR68r
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that's interesting... does the filemanager apk work though?
bbop said:
that's interesting... does the filemanager apk work though?
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Not so far. Keep getting an Application not installed error. I haven't tried pushing it to /data/app yet.
bbop said:
I say YES to enabling AC3 or the plugins but NO to ripping off archos by stealing their USP and distributing it across the shop...
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if that's considered warez then forget that i asked. it'd be nice to buy it aftermarket though.
madsquabbles said:
if that's considered warez then forget that i asked. it'd be nice to buy it aftermarket though.
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I think that both are illegal... I was just expressing my own dubious moral limits - I wouldn't mind stealing an AC3 codec (which should be included anyway grrr) but Archos' media software is their bread and butter - taking that would be damaging a company that's still small enough to be considered an underdog. Archos seem to be genuinely trying in my book and that is pretty rare so I would prefer that they had the best chances to see it through.
If archos were to sell their media software seperately i think they would lose a lot of their competitive advantage. Their software would be more easily copied for instance and their own players devalued. An example of a potential decline in this aspect could be sega's loss of their hard ware business.
sorry for the OT
Hi there, i own an Archos 70IT for two weeks and kept it still running on version 1.0.73. I'm planning to upgrade the device witin the next few days, but if i can do any favour to the community according to the 2.1 software-release, please let me know.
just buy the cinema pack. it's worth it
The cinema pack is only $15
Now i can play RMVB/RM files as promised by Archos.
nam265 said:
The cinema pack is only $15
Now i can play RMVB/RM files as promised by Archos.
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It's not worth it to succumb to a bait and switch, sorry.
Hello,
I have been considering to make a setup for a music jukebox fed by a NAS HDD. There are quite a lot of dedicated product for multimedia player, but they all require a display to browse the NAS files (except the squeezeBox touch, wich looks almost like what I would like to have, but requires proprietary soft, not working with any NAS).
Basically, I want to manage music for my living room, but I want to keep any display away as much as possible.
So I thought that a kind of small tablet could do the job.
Requirements :
Acces to the NAS via network, preferably via ethernet.
Stereo output (any kind even if digital is prefered).
Small display 7 inch ok, 10 inch maximum (I don't want any angry birds invasion).
Cool file browser, preferably with music management (artist, style, album tags... CD cover if available).
I discovered that Archos made cool tablet and that OS may be hacked, so I can expect to find a good rom for this kind of use (or may be cook my own, though I don't look forward this)
More of all, you can find cheap Archos 7.0 home, Arnova... devices.
So now I think the best is to ask to those who already know the more about the device (and I would apreciate any advice for I might need something else).
So far I know there are no decent android tablet with ethernet port (I'd rather not have to rely on WiFi), but may be there are some adaptor.
Thank you for reading. More thangs to come for those how will take time to answer.
Not sure exactly what you want but it sounds like you should look at MPD, the Music Player Daemon. I set it up on my file server (a linux box, not a NAS) and there are android clients for it that let me control it from anywhere I get wi-fi. I've also seen MPD run on openwrt devices too... google "mighty ohm wi-fi radio" for more.
Thank you Jimmy,
Indeed, I found some soft that could do the job. I guess you recommend this project. Sounds like very promising.
In fact I have more question about the hardware. I don't think the Archos 7 home provide any kind of ethernet port even through an adaptor. So I'll need to set up WiFi (I don't use WiFi at the moment, for I prefer wired solution). I discovered that it is possible to hack the Archos tablets, but I don't know for now what are the gen8 and gen9. I suppose that Archos 7 home are g8, but not sure for now.
May be should I consider some other hardware issue, but since I only intend to read music I suppose the archos 7 home should have enough CPU power.
Another alternative seem to be an Archos9PC, but first it is more expencive, then it runs Windows I really don't know.
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
Gen8 ( 8th Generation ) is the Archos 70 Internet Tablet.
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
The Gen8 has UPnP directly in the Firmware and the std Musikplayer allready has an option to use the "normal" twonky ( or whatever is running on your NAS) Server.
You can use a OTG Cable and a USB-Ethernet adapter, but Wifi is alot easier.
fzelle said:
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
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Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
fzelle said:
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
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Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
ZeGuido said:
Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
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I suggest as I do. Run NAS with the DLNA. Setup a western digital hd media player to your audio/video system. Use the "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all. I use this method and am able to play content from the NAS to the WDHDTV or straight to the tablet or vise versa... from tablet to WDHDTV... bubble does it ALL.... if you want video too...HD video maybe? Use a PC/Linux or some Box to run TVMOBILI on your box and have it index the NAS instead of the built in NAS Dlna... it is better Dlna server and supports MKV without transcode... and also supports AllShare (Samsung TV protocol) so you can just use your Samsung TV as your player instead of WDHDTV player... I have all 5 things running now and I have many options in my media arsenal
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I suggest as I do... "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all
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Looks like the kind of app I'm looking for. Thank you Josh.
I do NOT want anything but music, for I 've banned TV and internet from the living room. (TV and net have dedicated place). I don't want to set up a LinuxBox either (I'll probably do that for the HDTV in another place, but one thing at a time).
So the questions are :
-Would an Archos 7Home be good enougth for that ?
-If yes, is it possible to change the ROM of the Archos 7 home for a homecooked optimized rom ?
-is there somewhere an option (as for Archos9PC) to cradle the archos 7 Home whit a ethernet port (to avoid Wifi) ?
Finally, considering the NAS working along with bubble upnp, is it required to install some soft on the NAS and are there some kind of incompatibility (that's one of the drawback I see with the logitech squeeze box touch)
I recently bough a tv from the Aldi because it was quite cheap(699euro for 42"), but also because it's smart tv is based on android 2.3.4
I have been able to get rid of the stock launcher that MTlogic supplied and replaced it with ADWlauncher to be able to get access to some more settings.
My question is would it be possible to flash a custom version of CM9 to the tv?
I can't put a list up of the technical specs as of yet, but i will try later on.
If i'm not mistaken it uses a broadcom 720mhz cpu
Link to product is:
http://www.mtlogic.com/LE-427118MT/Specificaties
Hi gazlufc,
I have the same TV. In the mean time I managed to root it, but in the process I overwrote the video player application.
Could you please post the apk somewhere, so that I can download it ?
I could support you in rooting your tv, if you wish. Also, I managed to fix AC3 sound problems for network video playing in android.
Btw. the SOC is amlogic meson m1, for which I know at least a few firmwares which should be easy to port on the tv.
Cheers.
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Hi gazlufc,
I have the same TV. In the mean time I managed to root it, but in the process I overwrote the video player application.
Could you please post the apk somewhere, so that I can download it ?
I could support you in rooting your tv, if you wish. Also, I managed to fix AC3 sound problems for network video playing in android.
Btw. the SOC is amlogic meson m1, for which I know at least a few firmwares which should be easy to port on the tv.
Cheers.
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Would love to know how you've done it!
Have you also find a way to install another rom on it, like CM? (at least an upgrade to Android 4.0?)
I had a galaxy s2 and used all share on the phone to remote play video from my PC to my phone. By pressing remote device and browsing my windows media shared videos.
Why on earth does this not work on the s3? It just shows no videos on my pc......
I use my DLNA router enabled every day or so without problem. Browsing NAS shared folder with Solid or ES File explorer and watching movies. Or Dice player directly for example. Must be a config problem.
I use ArkMC (available on the Play Store) to stream stuff from my pc to my I9300. Very straightforward app, no setup whatsoever and works flawlessly for me so far. Give it a go, you might just need to reboot the phone after install tho for the app to actually take in account whatever is available in your WindowsMediaPlayer library & If I recollect correctly, i had to do that before being able to use see my media files through the app. Hope this heleped and if it did please hit the thx button
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I use ArkMC (available on the Play Store) to stream stuff from my pc to my I9300. Very straightforward app, no setup whatsoever and works flawlessly for me so far. Give it a go, you might just need to reboot the phone after install tho for the app to actually take in account whatever is available in your WindowsMediaPlayer library & If I recollect correctly, i had to do that before being able to use see my media files through the app. Hope this heleped and if it did please hit the thx button
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Hello, I have several questions:
What do you use as a server on your PC?
And how is it going with HiDefinition video, is it plays good?
letrouble said:
Hello, I have several questions:
What do you use as a server on your PC?
And how is it going with HiDefinition video, is it plays good?
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Hey letrouble, only saw your message today...
Anyways bout your two questions, for this app to work, like said previously you won't need anything setupwise, windows media player is the "server" so you only need to add your files to its library, install the app on your device, reboot it and that's pretty much it...
Concerning your second question, yes, HiDef files run flawlessly with it, on devices that actually support such a definition of course, ie galaxy S3 and many others... tried on my old galaxy tab P1000, they will load but the framerate will not be high enough to take pleasure in watching your content...
Hope that helped & hope all of u guys had a good Xmass and will have an even better NYE
UPnPlay and BubbleUPnP work great
Hi Guys,
I just received my CX803 Android Mini PC, and it seems that i buyed a less popular model. I cant find any information how i can root this device. I just want to get Droidmote to work but i read i need to have the device rooted. Can anybody help me to do this?
Thanks in advanced.
Cheers
Never mimd
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droidmote
I managed to root the device. But running droidmote is still an issue. I got the server up and running, but when using the client it just doent give a response. When starting the server using the huge button it sometimes doesnt run. Just when using the button several times it goes to status started.
Im using server 3.0.7 and client 3.4.4.
I read something about uinput. My device has the sys/modules/uinput folder. But it just has one file called version. So i think i probably miss you right uinput files. Can somebody help me to compile such a file?
pirilampo8 said:
I managed to root the device. But running droidmote is still an issue. I got the server up and running, but when using the client it just doent give a response. When starting the server using the huge button it sometimes doesnt run. Just when using the button several times it goes to status started.
Im using server 3.0.7 and client 3.4.4.
I read something about uinput. My device has the sys/modules/uinput folder. But it just has one file called version. So i think i probably miss you right uinput files. Can somebody help me to compile such a file?
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you have uinput. you must only use the last version of the server and the last version of the client otherwise not work.
last server version at this date and time is 3.1.3
last version client at this date and time is 3.4.4
the protocol between the server and the client is changed for that reason you need the last versions.
If you buyed the server why not update ? only if you not buyed you can't update
Hi Zulu99,
Yes it works now, i updated to the latest version.
Which "mediacenter" application do you recommend with this device? I installed XBMC but its terrible slow. I also tried a combination of XBMC nightly build with MXplayer. Playing the videos works fine now. But i think the interface of the Nightly build isnt that great. I prefer the interface of the official XBMC.
I also buyed the full version of Archos player. This player plays everything fine, but the problem with Archos is that it keeps scanning my whole HDD for new media, and i just want to select an folder which should be scanned. Any idea how to fix this?
Or do you know a better solution?
Thx
The best solution would be using the android standard video player in combination with XBMC. Till now the only player which displayed Avatar SBS 3d flawless was the standard android player. All other players like, MOBO, BS player, MX player lagged alot.
Does anybody know how to disable the bottom banner of mx player during full screen. I read something about Gesture applications, but this is more for touch devices and this isnt the case for me.
I use XBMC with MX Player.
I love MX Player for another reason. In combination with DreamDroid, i receive the tv streaming from my satellite decoder DreamBox.
I see all tv channels in any room on my Tablet or on Minix Neo G4 attached via hdmi to any tv. and control it with DroidMote.
I like the zoom-in functions for the video in MX Player and is full compatible and controllable with DroidMote.
look this video, especially the last part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1el4kqRv3gU
pirilampo8 said:
I managed to root the device. But running droidmote is still an issue. I got the server up and running, but when using the client it just doent give a response. When starting the server using the huge button it sometimes doesnt run. Just when using the button several times it goes to status started.
Im using server 3.0.7 and client 3.4.4.
I read something about uinput. My device has the sys/modules/uinput folder. But it just has one file called version. So i think i probably miss you right uinput files. Can somebody help me to compile such a file?
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Could you please write some short notes how you could achieve this.
I didn't get it working. Which driver did you use?
Finless ROM for cx803
pirilampo8 said:
Hi Guys,
I just received my CX803 Android Mini PC, and it seems that i buyed a less popular model. I cant find any information how i can root this device. I just want to get Droidmote to work but i read i need to have the device rooted. Can anybody help me to do this?
Thanks in advanced.
Cheers
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You can try flashing Finless ROM , it works great for me . It`s a rooted version , stock Android Icons and a lot of useful apps preinstaled .
You can find it on ArmTvTech,com