[Discussion]Will ice cream sandwich, the Android 4.0 be on our phones? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Will the ice cream sandwich be compatible, and running on the devices we currently have?
I heard that it is meant to be "universal", that it will be compatible on all devices.
What do you think?
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probably. ive read that itll bring phones and tables into "a cohesive whole."

Yes it will be compatible with "Devices that can run gingerbread" so that's pretty good since many budget phones are coming out with gingerbread

I kind of understood the same. It is supposed to even be able to install and run older devices(I'm assuming the G1 or something) I couldnt find the actual names or examples of which older devices so don't take that as written in stone, just my assumptions. And quite frankly, I DONT WANT TO WAIT!!! lol... Hopefully it is as good as they are painting it.

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Ice cream sandwich 4.0

Next week ice cream sandwich is coming. We will be able to install it on the Legend
without waiting HTC to release it for the Legend ?
How long will take to Cyanogen mod to release ice cream sandwich version?
Htc wont release it for legend, but as for cyanogen, I think as soon as the source for ics is avalible.
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Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
So we will be able to flash the original rom from Google?
But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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filipathtc said:
But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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No, certainly not.
Ozone said:
Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
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So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.
I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0
Tonyshun87 said:
I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0
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is what i am thinking
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i'm sure that HTC don't develop ice cream for Legend...
ali ba said:
No, certainly not.
So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.
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You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though
TheLegendaryJay said:
You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though
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Actually they already developed that and called it "Dalvik" . It's what makes running the same app on completely different devices possible.
Still, for a hyper-visor to work you need a hardware abstraction layer and that brings us back to the problem I mentioned above.
The legend with the pass of the time are old... and I think that Ice Cream Dont Works fine in Legend... unless the legend stay overclocked...
Its My Opinion ^^
but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)
derarzt said:
but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)
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start saving ;p
I bet ice cream will barely run 'normal' on the desire, and that is a 1ghz phone, so where do we stand with our max clocked 806mhz?
I rather see more 2.3 roms with better looks and tweaks etc. then a 4.0 rom
But hey that just my opinion
I actually think 4.0 will run smoother then 2.3 due to the hardware acceleration, I think we have enough of gpu power.. I don't see why it shouldn't work
Google's statement:
If a phone runs 2.3, it will also be able to run 4.0
If only there would be a dev that is up to the job. That's the problem.
Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^
There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..
I doubt they would do that
It's all about bigger screens nowadays (not a bad thing imo) but I have to admit, the Legend has a design that no other phone can compare with. I loved it when I had it in the old days!
Cobesz said:
Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^
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Here in Canada, the only North American country who sold the Legend, we have 3 year contracts maximum (minimum, rather). Not saying I have one, but it's probably going to be a crappy feeling when everyone else abandons and you're stuck alone.
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I see... Well, I might be getting a new (old) Legend soon. If I get the device, I'm going to give it a try in porting (My first attempt ever though, don't kill me if it takes to long or I'll be failing)
slovenec88 said:
There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..
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I Agree very strongly, my choice in the legend, was about the size, I upgraded from a Sony-Ericsson W595 so size was similar...
My wife got the DHD just after me, and it's TOOOOOOO big, not comfortable in my pocket at all.
If I had to choose a new phone to replace the Legend, it would currently have to be the HTC Rhyme, ok, its a bit bigger then the legend, but it is still smaller then the DHD, and its got some nice specs on it. Only problem is, I believe the Rhyme is only available on the optus network :-(
My 1c worth

nexus prime will be announced next week + ICS ?

So are they going to give us ICS after the release of the prime ? our hardware surely has to be compatible ! How does this work ! Is this going to be just for future phones ?
justabrake said:
So are they going to give us ICS after the release of the prime ? our hardware surely has to be compatible ! How does this work ! Is this going to be just for future phones ?
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Internet Connection Sharing? Not sure what's up with your punctuation ! ? !
Ice Cream Sandwich.....
bella92108 said:
Internet Connection Sharing?
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Not sure if serious. Either way, gave me a laugh.
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1-ice cream sandwich is going to be announced next week correct !
2-isn't it the next android Operating system for phones up from honeycomb
Yes or No !
WiKi Android OS
2.3 Gingerbread
3.0 Honeycomb
3.1 Honeycomb
3.2 Honeycomb
Future releases
(ICS) is short for > 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich is said to be a combination of Gingerbread and Honeycomb into a "cohesive whole".[51] In September 2011, Eric Schmidt stated that Ice Cream Sandwich "is being released in October/November."[61] Ice Cream Sandwich will be publicly unveiled on October 19 in Hong Kong.[62]
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So what's the problem answering the question ?
why the hell are you yelling?
Yes, ICS is going to be announced next week
Yes, it is the next android version for phones and tablets. honeycomb was only for tablets.
how the hell would we know for sure if we are going to see ICS released from samsung for our phones? you seem to want a definite answer, yet we cant give that to you because im guessing most of us dont work for samsung.
a good guess would be that, yes we will see a touchwiz version of ICS made available for our phones, but not for months from now. we most definitely will not see a version as soon as its released on the nexus devices.
Pirateghost said:
why the hell are you yelling?
Yes, ICS is going to be announced next week
Yes, it is the next android version for phones and tablets. honeycomb was only for tablets.
how the hell would we know for sure if we are going to see ICS released from samsung for our phones? you seem to want a definite answer, yet we cant give that to you because im guessing most of us dont work for samsung.
a good guess would be that, yes we will see a touchwiz version of ICS made available for our phones, but not for months from now. we most definitely will not see a version as soon as its released on the nexus devices.
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Well that's all I wanted to know ! I'm not sure how they release android OS's all I know is they only give it to certain devices
Thank You............
nobody had to make jokes
Kadernal said:
Ice Cream Sandwich.....
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Yeah, it was a joke. My whole point was it's funny how people worry about an OS release that they don't even know anything about, yet they let it influence their buying decision.
justabrake said:
Well that's all I wanted to know ! I'm not sure how they release android OS's all I know is they only give it to certain devices
Thank You............
nobody had to make jokes
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google makes new version of android
google releases new version of android (only available on nexus devices at first)
manufacturers begin working on their tainted/bloated/overly UI'd versions of the new google android build
eventually, at close to the time of the next new shiny build of the next android version, we see the manufacturers, (more importantly the carriers) start pushing out the version that is now 3-6 months old, and we see complaints up until the point the next shiny version is put out about how all the manufacturers/carriers are stupid and dont support their devices....
rinse, repeat
justabrake said:
1-ice cream sandwich is going to be announced next week correct !
2-isn't it the next android Operating system for phones up from honeycomb
Yes or No !
WiKi Android OS
2.3 Gingerbread
3.0 Honeycomb
3.1 Honeycomb
3.2 Honeycomb
Future releases
(ICS) is short for > 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich is said to be a combination of Gingerbread and Honeycomb into a "cohesive whole".[51] In September 2011, Eric Schmidt stated that Ice Cream Sandwich "is being released in October/November."[61] Ice Cream Sandwich will be publicly unveiled on October 19 in Hong Kong.[62]
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So what's the problem answering the question ?
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If you don't know what the benefit of an OS is, why would it matter if you have it or not? You're acting as blindly as the sheep who bought the new iPhone 4S just because it was marketed as an upgrade.
At least be informed if you're going to ask stupid questions. Nobody minds answering questions from people who google the question first.
The new OS is expected to be unveiled on October 19 and fans all over the world can watch the event live on Google’s YouTube channel, starting 10 AM HK time. Along with the OS, the world is expecting Google and Samsung to release the Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus smartphone at the event as well. The Galaxy Nexus has been highly anticipated since it will be the first smartphone to showcase the ICS OS.
So 10:00 PM Tonight it'll be broadcast

[Q] any hope for an ics update?

So, do you think samsung will ever update these devices to ice cream sandwich? Would anyone care enough to try to make a port? I don't have this device yet but I plan to get the 5 inch one for christmas and no ice cream sandwich won't stop me from getting it but I was just curious. Thanks!
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
nyanyan said:
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
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tcat007 said:
nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
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Actually, on my side, it doesn't look off at all...
I hope someone makes a port for this right now I'm using a Ice Cream Launcher instead of the built in Launcher.
Not to get off the topic too much...but does anyone know specific time frame Sammy will update the players so we can access Media Hub?
last i read there would be an "update in the future"....boo!
Curious, I don't have a Samsung TV (but may buy one soon), how is "Media Hub" different than "Smart View" (that's on these players)?
ICS?
I hope someone makes a port for this right now. Anyone had news?
5" with ICS ..
I bought one and this is very great but ICS is cooool...
Samsung G.Wifi + 1ghz + 5" + ICS.. =
Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
WT Ho said:
Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The YP series existed a long time ago as YEPP (young, energetic, passionate, person)because it is the model code for the mp3 players for samsung. it is not obligated to be a young audience. Take the samsung p3 for exemple (YP-P3) which is released in 2007 or 2008 (way before the article.) I think they will maybe release it if they release it to the original galaxy s (they have the same hardware capabilities.)Otherwise we can always wait for some custom roms. (CM9 ) And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
media hub is the acess point for movies, tv shows, etc for samsung mobile devices...i have several movies and shows i would love to watch on the player while traveling but i dont think we have access yet without an OTA.
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zaclimon said:
And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
zaclimon said:
And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I bought the 5.0 because it is pretty much the biggest possible size that I can still hold it with one hand. If you are commuting on train STANDING, you need to grab the hand rail using the other hand. Galaxy tab or iPad are way too big to use this way. For me, 4.0 is too small, I may just go with some newer super phone with 4 inch+ screen. Actually the new Galaxy Note is interesting.
iJimaniac said:
I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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As I said there's always the option for the custom rom but as you said all the developpement will go to the 5.0. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
Yup, just saw that, hope it will get things rolling! Wonder how hard it would be to get it running on U.S version...
Only now do I see I should have payed a little extra for importing a international version instead of U.S. version, Ah well.
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(. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
WT Ho said:
Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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ABI is Anything but ipod which it's talking about anything but ipod actually. The link for the firmware and kernel is there.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66820
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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They're more that one month old in some parts of the world.
And they already upgraded it from froyo to gingerbread so an ICS might not come right now (if it ever comes).
I hope I'm wrong, just having bought mine to replace an ipod touch.
I just hope there wil be at least a cyanogen or other custom rom with ICS.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The "Y" is in the model number, not the device name. I have a YP-G70 and the device name is Samsung Galaxy "S" WiFi 5.0

Do we have a release date for the ICS update?

Has anyone read an actual date yet? I heard in Jan. I saw ICS on the new Nexus and it looks awesome!
Not sure a solid date, but Asus said it would be in January. Of course, Google had a hard time predicting updates to its Nexus devices, and kept missing dates for updating the OS on its older phones. Hell, they originally said the Nexus One would be updated to ICS, but then said it wouldn't.
If Google can't predict it than I would take any announcement as an approximation. However, I think the prime will be updated soon. I bet it already works and is ready they just did not want to risk shipping with the new OS.
ICS is great though. I have it running in a virtual machine and it is very nice.
What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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Jan 31. Everything else should exceed expectations.
Andrew.80 said:
What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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A lot of UI and feature additions, but performance and battery usage get a good boost. You can really see this in a Virtual Machine. Gingerbread runs horrible and Honeycomb is almost unusable, but ICS is smooth like butter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#4.x_Ice_Cream_Sandwich
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What's the advantage of ice creem over Gingerbread ? Other than appearance?
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It has a whole bunch of new UI tweaks, from the multi-tasking (I guess you can swipe left and it shuts down the program), to the notifications pane, it provides more information in bigger panels, and a settings option in the notification panel as well. I'd imagine more widgets as well. I also read somewhere it runs much smoother and uses less memory than Gingerbread, just to name a couple things off the top of my head.
being that they're running test builds on it internally already, i can see it happening sometime in jan
Is there any want to get a rom lioe it and boot via sd?
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UmbraeSoulsbane said:
Not sure a solid date, but Asus said it would be in January. Of course, Google had a hard time predicting updates to its Nexus devices, and kept missing dates for updating the OS on its older phones. Hell, they originally said the Nexus One would be updated to ICS, but then said it wouldn't.
If Google can't predict it than I would take any announcement as an approximation. However, I think the prime will be updated soon. I bet it already works and is ready they just did not want to risk shipping with the new OS.
ICS is great though. I have it running in a virtual machine and it is very nice.
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what's you virtual machine setup? is it difficult to set it up? I'd like to give it a try too, I've tried the ICS virtualbox thing, it was still laggy everywhere.
Hopefully, when they're talking about updating tablets "in the weeks ahead", they're talking about the TP.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/android-4-0-3-announced-brings-variety-of-optimizations-and-bu/
Google just announced ICS version 4.03 to be released. They want that to be base version for tablets n phones.
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what's you virtual machine setup? is it difficult to set it up? I'd like to give it a try too, I've tried the ICS virtualbox thing, it was still laggy everywhere.
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I use the AVD (android virtual device) that's part of the SDK. Its much easier than setting up a real virtual machine since you would have to compile android from source, and it works well enough to test drive. My main goal was to try and register my avd as a device in the Google Market so I could get some 10 cents apps that were not compatible with my phone but would be with the Prime; however, I ran into snags getting the Android Market working, so I decided it was not worth the time to get a couple of 10 cent apps.
You can get more information here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
http://www.abctrick.com/2011/10/complete-guide-about-how-to-run-android.html
It can sound complicated, but it not really. Once you have the SDK, you can create a virtual device and you are good to go. It will lack all the Google apps, but there is a way to get them working with some effort. I just did not have the time.
The first tablet to get CM9 will be the G-Tab 10.1 and it's expected fairly soon. Steve Kondik, the founder of CyanogenMod, is now a Samsung employee.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392828
This is little offtopic, But it's shows that ICS will make Prime faster.
HC isn't so good and have its performance problems, but with Tegra3 its seems to perform well regarding the reviews that been made. So I am pretty excited about how good and fast it will be with ICS.
XOOM have got a alpha rom, and the quote is from The Verge
" but the good news is that early indications show that Ice Cream Sandwich is showing much better performance on the Xoom than Honeycomb did"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/16/...-android-4-0-3-install-as-google-adds-code-to
Worry about getting the Prime first.
According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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do you have a link or something to verify this?
if it's accurate, ICS should hit all TF201 devices essentially at the same time, so super early jan/late dec would be pretty sweet, as the less time i have to spend with ****ty ****ty ****ty HC the better.
Here.
Hi all, each individual country will have different shipment date of the products and thus for SG, based on latest schedule, stocks will be available in Jan 2012. In addition, the Eee Pad Transformer Prime for SG will be in Ice Cream sandwich which customers do not need to do FOTA update. Thanks for your kind understanding.
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According to Asus Singapore, the device will be released on 2nd week of January for us (yeah, sad us ) but it will come with ICS preinstalled. That might be a gauge as to when ICS might be released as an update.
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Do you have a reference?
I'm hoping that ICS would be released soon.
Gahhh, the wait.
Edit: ^ Missed your post. Nvm =P

Verizon announces Ice Cream Sandwich update for 14 devices

ORIGINAL SOURCE CAN BE READ HERE : http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2012/03/08/verizon-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-update-12-devices.htm
Any Verizon customers wondering when they can expect to get the update to Android 4.0 on their handset or tablet has a little more to go on as of this week as the carrier has released a list of fourteen devices which will receive Ice Cream Sandwich. While it reveals what will be getting the latest version of Android it doesn't go into the more crucial detail of when.
Handsets set to get the upgrade include; HTC's ThunderBolt, Droid Incredible 2, Rhyme and Rezound, Motorola's Bionic, Razr, Razr Maxx and Droid 4 and LG's Spectrum. Among the tablets getting the upgrade are Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 and 10.1 and Motorola's Xoom and Xyboards.
The fact the Droid devices make the list isn't surprising as Motorola had already said so in its own announcement. If it's anything to go by then it means anyone eager to receive the update could face waiting up to Q3 this year to get it on their handset.
In addition to refining the Android UI with common actions made more visible, more intuitive gestures and other features such as Android Beam and Face Unlock the new OS works across both tablets and smartphones. This avoids the divergence of the two branches of the Android that was seen when the tablet-friendly 3.0 was released.
Verizon promises to update the list as more information becomes available "throughout the year". This doesn't exactly suggest that the update is going to be available soon and may encourage Android loving customers to look elsewhere for their Ice Cream Sandwich thrills. If they stick with Verizon this mainly means opting for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus which was released in December and comes with the OS pre-installed.
It was already posted - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533907
already knownnn...omg HOW COULD YOU POST THIS AGAIN...((((
Tell them to scrap the rollout and get goin' on Jellybean or whatever 5.0 will be Our devs already made ICS for the Rezound
Jellybean's already obsolete. It's all about Key Lime pie now.
graymonkey44 said:
Jellybean's already obsolete. It's all about Key Lime pie now.
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Pssh, the cool kids are already calling it KLP. Get with the program!
chupajr said:
Pssh, the cool kids are already calling it KLP. Get with the program!
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hope to god it won't key lime coloring. it was bad enough to deal with green for so long
It seems to be overlooked by EVERYONE, but all of the articles i've read say that the Jellybean 5.0 OS will be tablet based ONLY. Not for phones... much like the Honeycomb OS. Correct me if im wrong
That would be absolutely retarded. They just brought them together under ICS and then break them apart again with JB?
I hope they don't do that...
tCizler said:
It seems to be overlooked by EVERYONE, but all of the articles i've read say that the Jellybean 5.0 OS will be tablet based ONLY. Not for phones... much like the Honeycomb OS. Correct me if im wrong
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Not true, its supposed to implement some sort of desktop mode for tablets. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to fragment it anymore
Never believe every article you read, or any for that matter. Unless they have concrete proof their full of it
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I hope to when HTC gives us ICS they also update the Rezound to 4.0. I would love to see this happen but with 4.0.
Id love vanilla ice cream from htc but sadly i know this wont happen. Hopfully the devs can get aosp going. Id say we should have the OTA by mid summer.

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